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This page is for any user of the TLK WWW Archive to post what they've heard about Simba's Pride (the sequel to TLK) or anything else that's happening in the Lion King universe. Make sure to post only info you are sure is correct, and read all existing info before adding your own. Remember, this page will be around to read over after the sequel comes out!
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Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)

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E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Was wondering if someone (Krazy Kat) could give the URL for the SP frame. And no, there was no SP preview on Spirit of Mickey. I think Disney has really strict scheduling rules it goes by and now that Mulan is dying out it probably wants to focus on Pocahontas II and then SP. And to all the TLK/SP fans here (I suppose that's just about everyone), I'm not dissin' Pocahontas or anything but don't buy that movie! Rent it if you want (I might), but buy SP and Disney will know where the real interest lies. I really wouldn't mind a TLK3 even. And please just rent "Titanic." Nothing against that movie either but I would hate to see it take TLK's place as the number one selling home video of all time. Peace and love to everyone.


Christian (KH#1) :-)



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Jul 15 - 23:46

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

AARRGGGHHHH! My parents just told me I couldn't pre-order SP, in fact, they won't even buy it until December. They said they'd give it to me for Christmas. I have two wait two extra months while everyone else is watching it. This is torture, why do they hate me??? Okay, here's an plan, nobody else buy it until December, that way I won't be left out. Good idea, isn't it?

Hakuna Matada
We Are One
Busa Simba


Jul 15 - 21:31

Krazy Kat

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Hey all,
I saw the SP frame on a web page; it's nice except- excuse me- Pumbaa kind of looks like he's- mooning Nala or shoewing off his rear- I believe Nala is the first animal to stand downwind!!!

On the TLK-L, Steele so graciously told us that there are new SP ceramic figurines and I quote,
"They also have a music box with a linticular hologram
of Kovu and Kiara rolling and pouncing in the woods. This box plays a
new song titled "Upendi", although it was only a music box, this song
sounded quite good. :)"

Well, I'm going to my Disney store tomorrow and if no one beats me to it I shall update. =)

~the Kraziest of all the Kats,
Krazy Kat~


Jul 15 - 21:11

Snowy

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Hollywood, if it helps you w/that 3rd question, from what I've been told by Disney Store CM's is that merchandise for SP starts coming out (noticeably I guess) in August; it wouldn't surprise me if we start to see some figures between then and SP's release. Beyond that speculation, I really haven't a clue.

Bye now.


Jul 15 - 15:33

elyse

Location: sacto, ca
E-mail: elysemize@lycosmail.com

hey hollywood-- the answer to your 1st ? is right below your post. that's as much info as we have on any musical releases at least as far as i know. the answer to your 2nd ? is yes. disney is pre-saling it for 21.99 & you get a litho & a puppet. i heard a rumor about blockbuster also, but i'm not sure on that one. and to the 3rd ? your guess is as good as mine.
~elyse


Jul 15 - 15:13

Ducky

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Ok, why must people be mean in here? this is a place of love, not hate!


Jul 15 - 14:27

Hollywood

Location: Colorado
E-mail: Lt_Hollywood@yahoo.com

I don't have any info, but I do have some questions.
1) Does anyone know anything about the soundtrack from SP?
2) I heared a rumour that Blockbuster and the Disney store where having a pre-sale for SP. Is that true?
3) When do the figures from SP come out?

Well that's all I can think of for now. I'd really like it if I could get some answeres real soon. Thanks a lot.
-Hollywood


Jul 15 - 14:12

Dara

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My pleasure Beerit!... Hope to read your fan-fic real soon!

Hé you guys! I went to amazone.com to finally buy the CD of TLKoB (I did receive my Visa card today) but there was more!

Not yet available, but you can still pre-order it:
'Simba's Favorites, Lion King II' costs: $12,99
It's to be released at the 29th of September!

I just ordered it along with the TLKoB CD, I even don't know what it is, but I know I want to have it, that's for sure!! It says Lion King II!

Here's the (very long) adres:
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/generic-quicksearch-query/002-0599627-6655812 (phew!)

Or do it the easy way: go to www.amazon.com and type: lion king at the search zone (and klick music)

mmm, was I the one who said to Derek and Lindsay first to collect thoughts and THEN write them down? I just signed for the third time. Ah well, Derek and Lindsay were fake so that doesn't count.
I thought because this was SP related, I should post.

Bye for now!

Dara


Jul 15 - 14:00

Amy

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Hey, has anyone checked "The Spirit of Mickey" for SP previews? It's out already...


Jul 15 - 13:39

Beerit

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Thanks 4 the info Dara.

CHILDHOOD MOVIES RULE!!!


Jul 15 - 12:44

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

Just a note--

Derek, Lindsay, Pooh Hater, and the guy who posted under my name (and then saying "U should" [feel stupid]) are all the same person. At least, they're posting from the same IP address.

And no, it wasn't me that turned the text yellow during one post; it was the person who wrote that post.

I've fixed it. Move along, move along...


Jul 15 - 11:47

Dara (just a thought)

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Derek and Lindsay... why not collect all your thoughts and put it down at once. mmmm, kinda like the thing I do. We don't talk to each other. We read, then we're posting a message of our own with news or a response, and come back later, the next day for example!
But I won't believe you are THAT stupid for not knowing. This is NOT a chatroom like Krazy cat has said before.

Dara


Jul 15 - 11:42

Dara

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I came here and suddenly the text was yellow.
Did you do that Brian?? It's very diffucult to read.

Of course I didn't believe that idiot someone who said this page was closing down! Very funny...
You are doing a great job Brian!!

Ducky you reacted very calm for someone believing Brian was about to shut down his page... didn't you care a bit?

Pooh hater, if I needed SP pics I will go to either Brian's site, Beerit's, Kiara holic#1's site or all those other great sites.

Jenna, I promise to read your story soon, and I will post my thoughts to you personally.

Beerit, a lioness is pregnant for about 105 till 112 days. She's sexually mature at the age of 2. and they will have kids every 2 years. Hyena's are pregnant for about 110 days. Just a little check-up for you. I really love every film of nature about Afrika!! Someone below told about the show where the lionesses were far more interested in black maned lions... I saw that show too! It was very funny and TLK related.

Yeah, great how those childhoos movies can make you happy every time you see them. I remember the scene of Bambi with the bush fire when I was just a little Dara. Then I was screaming out loud with my even younger sister till our throats were hurting....
BAMBI RUN!! GET OUT, RUN AWAY OF THE FIRE!!!
Pretty dumb hè? But I really felt like I was stuck in that movie. And with TLK I had that same old feeling again, that's way TLK is so special to me.
Oh.... have fun with the lightnings... you can have them.

Good, enought talking by now.
See ya later!

Dara


Jul 15 - 11:36

Krazy Kat

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Argh! Derek and Lindsay!! This is NOT a chat room, this is a message board!! You Post your thoughts here. I really don't like scrolling through pointless posts. If you conversate, please continue in E Mail or get the facts straight here. =)

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 15 - 11:16

Derek

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Someone answer me!!! PLEASE!!!


Jul 15 - 10:43

Hong Kong Phooey

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Lion King Lover, no, it has NOT been confirmed that Kovu is Scar's son, and a scar is NOT genetic. Besides, young Kovu doesn't have a scar.

Lion King Lover, do you think that Mickey and Minnie Mouse are related? How about 101 Dalmatians' Pongo and Perdita. They may LOOK similar, but THEY aren't related!!


Jul 15 - 08:54

Derek

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Sorry about that! I just got disconnected for a minute


Jul 15 - 08:07

Lindsay

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Is anybody there?


Jul 15 - 08:06

Lindsay

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Who knows?


Jul 15 - 08:05

Lindsay

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No! What was up with all of that yellow back there?


Jul 15 - 08:04

Derek

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No I haven't. Have U?


Jul 15 - 08:03

Lindsay

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I know what u mean!! So have you heard any more rumors about SP?


Jul 15 - 08:02

Derek

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It was good!! It was awesome!! It was so cool!!!!!!!!!!


Jul 15 - 08:01

Lindsay

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HEY!! I'M HERE! HOW DID U LIKE TLK?


Jul 15 - 08:00

DEREK

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Is anybody there??


Jul 15 - 07:58

yjityjkit

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tyjtyj


Jul 15 - 07:56

Krazy Kat

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Jenna,
I heard talk of a Lady and the Tramp sequel some time ago while crusing around the net, about last summer, but I havent heard anything on it since then. From what I had read it was going to be on the very Tramp-like puppy at the end, identified as Scamp in several children's books on him and his Lady-like sisters.. I seriously hope they DO NOT make a sequel because it would ruin this classic movie which is also one of my faves (Long live Peg and Tramp!!)

Lady and the Tramp is going to be re-released in the US and i guess Canada on September 1st, 1998. That's even closer to SP- so maybe there will be a preview on there? With maybe- Vitani or Nuka??? It doesnt really bother me they're not showing Vitani or Nuka in the previews yet because I'd like to be surprised.

So remember L&T returns to video september 1st...I'm getting it- my Lady and the Tramp on a blank tape just cant handle being watching 3,000 more times....

Also look out for The Black Cauldron- August 4th, i believe someone said?? I heard that people were not all impressed w/ that movie and it didnt get great reviews, but i remember The Land Before Time, All Dogs Go to Heaven and Balto didnt get such great reviews and they are among my favorite animated movies of all time.

I think I've done enough blabbering for now....

~Krazy Kat~
Certified and Dignified:
Adult-Simba-Holic
#1 Vitani Holic
Zira holic
Sarabi Holic
Kovu Holic
Sarafina Holic
Nala Holic
Zazu Holic
Scar Holic
Mufasa Holic (I think I'm the only one!!)
Hyena Holic


Jul 15 - 07:39

drama_man
Collage studant
Location: Indiana
E-mail: drama_man@hotmail.com

HEY WHAT"S UP WITH THE YELLOW???????????? Anyway. Simba's Pride is on presale at the Disney store. I already got mine you also get a Simba's pride lithrograph, and a simba's pride puppet of either Kiara or Pumbaa!!! Start passing the word see you soon.
MAY THE CIRCLE OF LIFE TREAT YOU WELL :~)


Jul 15 - 01:28

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Started writing my fan fic yesterday. but I'm kinda stuck on a question.
how long is a lioness pregnent?

I saw some pics of TLK today, after not laying eyes on a single frame in the movie in a long time.
gees, cub Nala was'nt that good looking as I rememberd. I though Kiara was kinda ugly in the we are one preview,
but now we know she's not. In fact, she's 10 times more beautifull then Nala. Grown Nala was that much of a beauty eather.
I dont know, I think Kiara is very pretty. Much more then Nala ever was. cool.
that's a good thing I guess.
Dara, I'm glad u're a big fan. that will come in handy. somehow...
I understand about 101 dalmations & Bambi, I have the same afection to Dumba (as u all know)
Movies have that affect on ya. they just stick to u & dont let go. if its a good movie.
I dont know what u have with lightnings. they rule. even as a little kid I used to sit at my window watching 'em. aaaaahh.... oh well. >zap< >zap<
I cant believe someone put up the closing down bit. & did a loust job at it too. Brian always upts up his website location & email. try to pay atention. (:
LION KING LOVER, I afraid scars dont go in the genes. just pimples. ((:
Timon, I saw the oopsie u said too. I have 3 pages filled with NEW oopsies. I just have to type 'em into my pc & send 'em to Brian.
By the way, & I'll aay this ONE more time, my site's ok now. I have new gifs grabs & pics so come over.
what's with the queen king stuff???? I read a discusion somewhere, talking about how its not possible 4 Kiara to be presented because she was a lioness.
that sucks. he fact is she WAS presented, & maybe she WAS refered to a a price but she's obviously not, and would u stop it with the profound interigation?!
its ok to do it on a character, like Scar or Simba. That's all fine and dandy. but dont try to answer questions with no answer. u cant keep doing this every time something weird falls in the equation. u'll drive yourself (and ME) crazy!!!
have a nice day


Jul 15 - 00:09

Christian (KH#1)
Guard-Systems, Inc.
Location: Orange County
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

My uncle and my brother are both bald but that doesn't mean my uncle is my brother's dad. Hmm . . . maybe I just stumbled on to something. I too was wondering about Simba shifting positions after seeing Mufasa in the clouds. Any guesses on that, anyone?


Christian :-)


We Are One


Jul 14 - 23:53

Timon

Location: Meerkat Burrows
E-mail: TIMON19149

Hey, I just saw Mulan & it was GREAT! Mushu the dragon was the best 'cause he was really Timonish. I hought it was pretty funny.They kinda used some TLKstuff in Mulan, though. The avalanch looked alot like the stampeied in TLK. Ya know, BIG cliff, lotsa little dudes runin' over it... Then in one part, some guy said "Who are You?" & Mushu said "The question is: Who are you?" Is it just me or is that the Simba/Rafiki thing by the reflection pool?

I think I found another oopsie in TLK. Whaen Simba's dad comes to him as a ghost, Simba is standing behind the pool. But in the next shot, Simba's on a grassy plain. Whats up with that? Maby he moved? I don't think so. Do you? Please tell me.

~Timon~


Jul 14 - 20:09

LION KING LOVER

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It is confirmed------

KOVU IS SCAR'S SON!!!!!!! HE HAS A PINK SCAR ON HIS LEFT EYE AS AN ADULT, TOO.


Jul 14 - 20:06

Jenna

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Hi again..I was wondering if any of you know any info about the disney people making a Lady and the Tramp Sequal? Or when L&T will be re-released? It's always been one of my fave Disney movies (besides TLK), Also, Anyone else out there Like L&T or know where I can get pics and info at?

Also, anyone who read my story...what did you think?


Jul 14 - 19:34

Alexander

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OK, has anyway seen the Mulan sing along video YET?!? I read that it wasn't coming out until late July, but some of you have said that it is already out. OK people, where is it? Until someone says they have watched it, I'm assuming those who claimed that it was already out were misinformed.


Jul 14 - 19:25

Blue Lion

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Kara, I saw the Spirit of Mickey, and unfortunately there is no SP preview on it :(
maybe the Black Cauldron....we'll see August 4th on that! (hopefully they'll show Nuka and Vitani, who knows)


Jul 14 - 19:04

Kara, Kiara Fan

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Hey, has anyone seen the Spirit of Mickey out yet? Does anyone know if that will have a Simba's Pride preview? Also, the Simba's Pride boardgame, is that out everywhere? And I bet that person that posted under Brian's name was none other than pooh lover with another name. And Pooh Hater- are those pictures new pictures or the old ones? Sorry, no new news about Simba's Pride.
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 14 - 16:38

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

Including spoofing posts from me? That's not a very good way to start.

I repeat, PLEASE do not post a string of "Me Too"-ish messages, people. That's what helps ruin newsgroups and other message systems. Things have been really sane here thus far.


Jul 14 - 14:42

Pooh Hater

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No, because it will be easier for me to just e-mail them. This does have to do with SP! So I can share all of the info that I want to.


Jul 14 - 14:40

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

On the other hand, don't. Let's not turn the rumor mill into a "Me too"-fest.

If you have SP info, and you can't just post it here, then post an e-mail address or website people can contact for access to it.


Jul 14 - 14:37

Pooh Hater

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If you want lots of pics and info on SP than leave a post saying I do and also leave your e-mail address.

Bye!!!!!!!!!!!


Jul 14 - 14:34

Tiara

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Whoever wrote that last remark needs to get a life.


Jul 14 - 14:32



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u should


Jul 14 - 14:04

Ducky

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OOPS! i feel stupid!


Jul 14 - 14:02

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

Oh, cute. Someone's decided to spoof posts from me.

Guys, the page isn't going anywhere. I hope nobody fell for that. :P


Jul 14 - 13:58

Ducky

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Well, since Brian is closing his page down its time to say toodles to everyone!


Jul 14 - 13:56

Brian Tiemann

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This page is closing down because I now have a new favorite movie.Sorry for the inconvienience


Jul 14 - 13:44

Dara

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Uhmmm... I'm a real Disney fan Beerit. I liked all Disney animations, well at least almost all of them (except for Pooh, Alice in Wonderland, Black Couldron, Fantasia en Toy Story) They were not bad (yes, yes, except for Pooh!) but the stories were just not great enough.

And don't worry.... I'm probably just like you one of the greatest TLK/SP fans walking the earth!
The childhood movies of mine are 101 Dalmations and Bambi. Those movies have a special place in my heart. Oh oh, I'm going to be sentimental.

Xcuse me Beerit?!! Did you said you fried a fish with a thunder???! Are you nut or something?? Man, those things scar the hell out of me! Girl, you won't believe that! I almost crawled down the stars not to watch those lightnings! I felt like winning the 100 metres after reaching the living room downstairs! ok ok, maybe I'm a little bit exaggerating, but still...

I think Vitani will be my favorite person. Especially if she will be kinda like Shenzi.
Hé! I gotta find some hyena substitutes SOMEWHERE?! I think she will be a girl who knows exactly how to express herself. She will have her answers ready I guess.

Gotta go now... no more thunderstorms tonight, guess I can sleep peacefully.......

Bye!!!

Dara

*Strike the Pooh with lightening!!!*


Jul 14 - 13:43

leah lioness
future furrie artist
Location: im not telling
E-mail: cartoon_gurl@yahoo.com

HEY IF ANY ONE HAS ANY PICS OR INFO ON VITANI FROM SIMBAS PRIDE OR KNOWS HOW OLD SHE IS EMAIL ME PLEEAASSSE!!!!!!:)


Jul 14 - 11:57

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Oh, just one small thing Christian. If, and it's a pretty big if, Disney were to follow the British Monarchy then Kiara would become queen on Simba's death, even if Nala was alive. Nala would become the Queen Mother :-). Of course, if any male cubs were born to Simba (and Nala, but that's not essential to the succession) they would be 'first in line' to the throne, ahead of the older Kiara. There again, I doubt Disney are following the any particular monarchy.

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 14 - 01:43

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Well Christian, you don't need any help from me, you're doing just fine :-). What you say is correct. There's little doubt in my mind that Disney drew on British royal ceremonial for insiration for CoL, both in imagery and style. The most famous British choral work is probably "Zadok the Priest", a coronation amthem from 1726 or thereabouts (dates never were my strong point). This starts quietly, the strings biulding up and eventually giving way to brass. The choir itself comes in about midway with probably one of the best 'give 'em hell' fortissimo entries in the entire choral reportoir. If you are not expecting it (and even if you are) this will blow you away! The words go like this:

Zadok the priest,
and Nathan the prophet,
annointed Solomon King.
And all the people rejoiced,
rejoiced and sing:
God Save the King,
Long live the King,
The King shall reign for ever and ever,
Amen, Amen, Hallelujah....

Now then, If Rafiki is Zadok, and the animals are people then - well, you probably get the idea.
These lithos, frame and what have you; they are generally not much related to scenes from the film itself. Generally the idea is to get the characters together so that they can be seen. I don't expect to see the same groups together at the same time, so it's really difficult to read much into them. I've not seen the frame, but Vitani's look to Kovu has been described as both 'sly' and 'seductive', and as I understand it she's still a young cub? Is that right? In which case 'seductive' hardly seems appropriate? Hmmm....

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 14 - 01:38

Christian (KH#1)
Student
Location: The Serengeti
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

A few thoughts: What's this about Kiara being the most boring character on SP?!?!?! The book that comes out in August may just be an activity book. It's called "Simba's Pride: Come Out and Play." If it does give a story it will probably be very thin, but, of course, it might still be good enough for us. There could be a whole bunch of books though. If the lions follow the same royalty pattern as the royalty of the United Kingdom (where I lived for about a year and a half) then Kiara and Kovu could get married and Kiara could become the queen at Simba and Nala's death and Kovu wouldn't be the king at all; he'd be like a duke or something. The husband of Queen Elizabeth II has never been the king (I believe his title is Duke of Edinburgh; someone may correct me on this). When we see Simba & Nala and Kiara & Kovu it may not be any coronation ceremony but may be just presenting them to all the animals after they got married as the princess and her groom. I'm sure Chris Boyce would know more about the royalty thing than me.


Christian (KH#1)



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Jul 14 - 00:26

Mouse

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Hi all, no rumor just a little lion info. I saw a show a while back that said that lioness' are more attracted to lions with black manes, no wonder Scar has a whole pride of lioness followers and Kovu's gettin the queen!


Jul 13 - 20:14

Beerit

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Yhea, what she said......


Jul 13 - 19:38

Krazy Kat

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Beerit, the Nuka info changed? Ack! I can't keep up w/ you people!

Call11,
about Simba being dethroned and Kovu becoming king, we (as far as i know) have very little info on that subject- basically because that's probably part of the outcome...we'll just have to wait for more previews or the movie...

That's all, folks.
~Krazy Kat~


Jul 13 - 19:27

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Beerit - three that we've seen so far. So any speculation that there's more is just guessing. There could be, but so far there is no *evidence* for that. Sure, if later previews etc show there are more, or make it clear who they are then fine. Until then three's all we can comment on.

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 13 - 17:06

call 11

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KRAZY CAT maybe i was a bit out of line but pooh isn't bad but I watched him when I was young and I liked him and thanks for answering my question . how will kovu become king unless simba dies or is dethroned I'm hoping someone can answer that it is really an itch to me thanks.


Jul 13 - 16:58

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

oh, chris, I was'nt talking to u about the thing with Zira's pride (?).
Iwas talking about the sarafina situation. that leading lioness looked like sarafine to me.
what makes u sure that there r 3 lionesses? the line was jusr starting. maybe there's more lionesses coming up? I'm though it was obvoius, wasnt it???
I think there r more lionesses, but they wont show the whole line!!!!!
I ment, Simba should lead 'em. he's not proud to send messnegers to do a lion's job. & after the pride's patch things up (?) he should envite them to PR. T & P cant do that. neather can Zazu. only simba can invite them. so he should be polite anough to escort them.
Dara, u're riht in everything u said. u're scared of thunder?! thoes things r so cool!!!!
I freid a fish with 'em once.... (:
Krazy Kat, nuka thought he can kill simba, now it changed. the info u read was OLD!!!

m I the only TLK/Herc/SP fan here?????
everybody here seem to love DISNEY! I just like these 3 movies. oh, & Dumbo, but I like Dumba in a way very different then the others. its more special to me.

we are one

p.s. my site should be ok by tomorrow!
get ready, I have LOTS of new stuff!


Jul 13 - 16:13

Krazy Kat

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Um, here I go again...

Sorry for the outburst, call 11. But in answer to your question, i think the lioness you're talking about is Zira the villianess. She is raising Kovu to kill Simba but Kovu doesnt want to. It is said that Zira is Kovu's mother- but that info is not 100% efficient.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 13 - 15:12

Krazy Kat

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Uh, sorry about that last post- that just ticked me off. Sorry.

Timon, an e-toy is a company of or by (not sure) Mattel. e-toys are making Simba's Pride plushies and beanies- but note- they are hideous, and I advise you get any SP products from The Disney Store- the beanies are already out (Kovu, Kiara, Timon and Pumbaa) and I'm hoping there are soon Nuka and Vitani beanies and SP plushies...Hope that helped!

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 13 - 15:08

krazy Kat

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call 11,
Um, I don't mean to chew you out or anything- but Pooh has nothing to do with Disney animal movies- there were animals a plenty before Pooh came along. Like Bambi? Or Dumbo? or The Jungle Book? hmmm...seems you don't know your Disney as much as you think you do..and TLK came out before the big stupid "Pooh Craze" uh, yeah, he was around before TLK, but he wasnt as popular as he is now..and one more thing- Pooh isnt even an animal! Sure he's a bear- but he's a stuffed bear! a stuffed animal! Does that count?? Just my two bits.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 13 - 15:02

Alexander

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You are right Elyse, I don't know everything about SP, but I do know that Nuka is not part of Simba's pride. From the start, Nuka has been associated with the Scar-type lions.

Yes, I did know that you were just speculating! I'm sorry if I came off as rude or mean----that wasn't my intention.


Jul 13 - 14:56

Timon

Location: Meerkat Burrows
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Hello world! Whats a e-toy or what ever? I really hope Timon has a really big part! Also, whoever said they hoped Hakuna Matata was in SP knows what their talkin' about! They better play H.M. in SP. I LOVE TIMON!
Hakuna Matata all!
Busa Timon!


Jul 13 - 14:54

elyse

Location: sacramento, ca.
E-mail: elysemize@lycosmail.com

GEEZ ALEXANDER!!! i said MAYBE that's what was going on. you don't know what's going to happen in the actual movie any more than the rest of us, unless of course you're secretly a screen writer or animator for disney. i never said i was 100% correct. it was just speculation & until the movie actually comes out you can't prove that i'm wrong.
~elyse


Jul 13 - 14:50

call 11

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I only havw a few questions and Ihope someone can answer them who is that skinny long faced lioness looking critter ? did anyone here about the this certain group that is boycotting disney because they thought that pocahontas and the little mermaid is sexual just wanted to tell ya . what is it with the pooh hating thong he's not bad maybe if it wasn't for pooh then disney might not have gotten the idea that animal movies are good and profitable and they might not have made the lionking just informing bye


Jul 13 - 14:20

Kiara

Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

ive heard a lot about the frame for SP, but i havent seen it. i wanna see what Nuka and Vitani look like. If the pic is on the NET, could someone send me a link for the frame and other Nuka and Vitani pics?


Jul 13 - 13:49

Alexander

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Elyse, Nuka is NOT part of Simba's pride----he is with the outsiders.

People, why the heck would Nuka and Kiara be betrothed?!?! That makes no sense at all!!!!!

About the lithos-----Disney does a LOT of subcontracting these days, so in all likelihood the artwork was not done by a Disney employee. Disney subcontracts artwork all the time-----the artwork in the "Ducktales" and "Mickey Mouse" magazines was done by numerous studios and they usually got a credit for this.

I agree that Kiara looks like the most boring character in SP, at least visually.



Jul 13 - 13:32

Krazy Kat

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail: krzykatmer@aol.com

elyse, that theory sounds pretty good, except I doubt that Nuka is in Simba's Pride because I read in various places on the net he is decribed as crazy and thinks he can kill Simba himself...but maybe it's changed since then? Vitani is said to be similar to Shenzi. I need to see that frame!! I have no car yet so I have to get my mom to take me places (augh) and she's always like, "We'll go to the mall this week" then it changes to "We'll get there next week.." but we won't get into that...

Hmm, the more I look and think about Vitani, the more I like her. I think I am now an official Vitani Holic. I don't really care if she comes out good or bad in the movie; either way they're usually really good (Like i know many Simba holics like myself but there are also tons of Scar Holics- including myself ;)

I like Kiara a lot, but she seems kind of plain to me as a cub. I think she looks cooler as an adult. Someone asked me, "Do you think Vitani will lose those bangs when she grows up?" if we see her as an adult that is. My answer is I hope not! She is the most unique lioness next to Zira I've ever seen!

Um, that's all I have to say fo now...

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 13 - 12:40

elyse

Location: sacramento, ca.
E-mail: elysemize@lycosmail.com

hi guys!! well, i went to the disney store sunday & they had the display for the pre-order. the pumbaa & kiara puppets are pretty cute. they also had the sp picture frame that i bought. and i have to say from the look vitani is giving kovu on the frame she's definitely not his sister. the way i perceive it, vitani is looking @ kovu in an amorous way. meanwhile kovu is looking @ kiara & vice verce. so maybe the storyline is something along the lines of kiara & nuka are "betroathed" (nuka is in simba's pride) & vitani & kovu are also "betroathed" (vitani's in scar's pride), but then kovu & kiara meet & they fall for each other, so nuka gets jealous & starts doing all sorts of underhanded evil things because he really wants to be king of priderock, but in the end he gets exiled or killed or something. as for vitani, maybe she has a good heart deep down & really cares for kovu, but realizes that kiara & kovu were meant to be together and in the end she helps them out. just speculation based on the picture frame.
~elyse


Jul 13 - 12:08

Dara

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Wow! so many entries!! And I only missed 2 days!
Beerit, I loved your thoughts about Kiara calling to her dad that she loves Kovu. It sounds like a great lovescene! And about the SP tape... I know how you feel. With me the same thing, I'll have to wait that awfully long too. If I only knew when the video would be released... If I'll have to wait too long I will order it in the US. But I think they will release it outside the US. You know..... big money!.... Don't despare!

Maybe it's just a stupid thought, but I think they're putting some newcomers on the job of creating those lithographs and covers for all sort of TLK/SP related things! God, all that artwork, it's awful!! I know I can't do it any better, but they could at least TRY to make some good looking drawings! (I liked the envelope though) It's just such a dissopointment after seeing the preview.

That Vitani and Kovu being brother and sister thing would be great! And about Kovu having the scar, maybe Disney is about to make people even more curious with that Scar. People would say, look! told ya! that Scar's son for sure!! Maybe it's just that people want him to be Scar's son.
(I do at least....) But it could be a screw-up. I mean, they did already mixed up colours of the lion cubs, so Kovu became to look like young Simba!

Zira is great! I heard her voice and it was like: YESSSS, another great villainess!!!
I like "He lives in you" too! But most when Rafiki sings it! (and that's a girl in TLKoB! ewww!)

O my Gods!! Thunderstorm here! I gotta go know!
I'm really scared of that and I'm at the attic!

Bye!!!!!!!!!!
*They live in you*

Dara........ rushing down stairs........


Jul 13 - 11:40

Krazy Kat

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Hi all,
My last one didn't seem to get posted...(?) but I'll post again.

About Sarafina being in SP, she could very well be, it does'nt mean she isn't, I don't remember seeing her in any TLK previews because of her greaat biig role in TLK...(sarcasm) And if she is in SP, she probably has just one line or maybe a few, unless her role is more important in SP, which is unlikely seeing all the new characters and what we have of the plot...

Um, that's about it for now....

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 13 - 08:52

Steele
Just being a husky
Location: Back from Wisconsin
E-mail: steele@thequest.net

Hello again,
Just got back from the Wisconsin Dells and surrounding area (major tourist area). Thought you might like to hear that the group of us found several Lion King items there. They have old collector shops and we found ornaments, old applause plushies, figurines (including adult Simba in the Sandra Brue collection), and a snowglobe we had never seen before of baby Simba and Nala. It was really cool to see these in such a busy area.
Also we found a new SP item in Appleton. It was at the Toy's R Us store there. It's a SP board game named Hop-a-Croc (could be slightly off on the name). The game itself was much like the TLK game before it, definitely for kids. It did have really nice graphics on the cover though. We just thought this was cool since it's the first item other than the beanies to be found at a store other than Tne Disney Store or an online store (at least by us anyway).


Jul 13 - 08:47

Kiara Future Queen
Princess
Location: The Outlands (With Kovu!)
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

I think i have a theory about Grandpa Mufasa's appearance to me. you know afeter my Dad goes to the Elephant Graveyard and Grandpa gives him a talk? Well he says the great kings of the past are watching over him through the stars, well in the MM trailor im looking at the sun settin g and my dad probably isn't around so i ask my grandfather for advice when the stars are just coming out or dissapearing, and after he talks to me he says those famous 3 words :"WE ARE ONE"
Oh well, this is just your princess putting in her two cents

KILL POOH!
BUSA SIMBA!
WE ARE ONE!
HAKUNA MATATA!


Jul 13 - 06:56

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello Folks,
Ok, let's move on shall we? Right, Beerit asked:
"what makes u sure the pride going to PR isnt simba's pride?" I didn't actually say anything about this, but I'll comment anyway. There are three adult lionesses following Zazu (flying) Timon and Pumbaa. Who are they? Frankly I don't have any idea. I once suspected that one might have been Zira, but now we've seen her it's clear that even in profile she'd be very easy to spot, so no, none of the lionesses appear to be Zira. What about Vitani? I don't know, I've not seen her as an adult but from you folk's descriptions it sounds that she'd be pretty easy to reconise too. All I can tell is that the first lioness seems darker/greyer than the others, Sarabi perhaps? Would that mean the others were Sarafina and Nala, or Nala and Kiara? I don't know, they could be anyone (except Zira I think).
"if u think of it, the plot we DO know is really general. the details r completly blank! (almost)" Yes, and I think of it a lot, we know practically nothing so far.
"maybe it was sarafina! or nala! or some lionesses coming back after looking 4 kiara (if she did run away) & that's why they're looking down. they did'nt find her." yes, that's possible.
"if that's Zira's pride, why is'nt SIMBA Leading 'em to PR????" Why should he? My guess would be that the third lioness, riding shotgun as it were, is Kiara and it she who's doing the leading - that makes a lot of sense in term of what little of the plot has been given away. This scene remains very interesting, precisely because we have no firm idea of what's going on.

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 13 - 06:00

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Chris Boyce, I agree that they have to change the speech patterns & stuff, that's obvious.
but generally, the voice itsalf, even with the most odd accent put into it, cant be changed completly! if they told her to make voices like a duck then maybe it would have sounded differant, but they tell her to just TALK! with some changes in speech patterns or whatever, but she's still talking. that's MY point.
I dont think she'll sing in SP. her voice has lots or jumps. I can hear it a lot of times on party of five. but Chris is right about that, maybe she's just trying to sound casual? not some 15 year old with a perfect voice, u know?
the script has changed a lot, maybe she was fonna be shani, or maybe now she's Vitani?
whatever, but I dont think she's Kiara. though she could have made n exelant one!
no, I have no idea.... maybe not someone known.
what makes u sure the pride going to PR isnt simba's pride?
if u think of it, the plot we DO know is really general. the details r completly blank! (almost)
we dont know which pride that was. besides, the first lioness was'nt in the same color as Zira, who is the leader of her pride (& we dont even know that!) so if she is, why is'nt she first in line? maybe it was sarafina! or nala! or some lionesses coming back after looking 4 kiara (if she did run away) & that's why they're looking down. they did'nt find her. that should explain why zazu P & T r with them. they looked 4 Kiara too. hey, that's a good idea!!!!!!
if that's Zira's pride, why is'nt SIMBA Leading 'em to PR????
when did he become too good 4 "commoners"?

we are one

p.s. sorry about the images in my site. I'm having some problems. it'll be ok by the end of the week at least! k?

sorry. no time 4 tiping mistacs ;)


Jul 13 - 05:33

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

To whoever sent me feedback as "Nala", asking me to correspond with her here in the rumor mill, I'm sorry-- this isn't the place for it. If e-mail isn't an option, I don't know what I can tell you... just that this isn't the place for private discussion.

I'm sorry you found the Sound & Music Archive section to be lacking... I don't know what else I can add, though.

Brian


Jul 12 - 23:10

Ducky

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Ok, i just went to the movie database for SP and they DID NOT list zazu for a character where they have the voices for people!!!!!! it also said lacey was doing kiaras young voice so maybe it is her, im still sceptical but i cant fight w/ it if it is her.


Jul 12 - 20:57

Ducky

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Chris, your right, the voice may very well be Lacey, i mean she could change it for the movie or whatever. Its just that lacey has a very distiguished voice and its kinda hard to miss, also, she has like the PERFECT voice for a young girl, i think its kinda strange that disney would make her change her voice if she already has the voice of a child.thats just what i think, whatever anyone else guesses could just as much be right.
Now about this sarifina thing, just because she wasnt in the previews doesnt mean shes not in the movie, i mean we havent seen Nuka or Vitani in the previews either but we know they are there cause they have merchandice. or, maybe shes not, who knows! I was just wondering, now i heard rowan achison( i cant spell, you guys know, the Mr BEan guy) is not doing the voice of zazu,does anyone know who is if he isnt? thanx!


Jul 12 - 20:42

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Beerit, you are missing the point. voice actors are hired because they can create portray the character in the 'best' way. Actors regularly have to modify their vocal characteristics, and speak in different accents and speech patterns, it's all part o the job. Now, IF Disney did sign Lacey for Young Kiara then it would be because she can create a convincing Young Kiara. She might do that by sounding like she did in some other show, or she might have do it by using more of her voice acting skills. In short there's no reason to think that she'd sound exactly like she's sounded before, she might, she might not. If they did hire her (or any other voice talent come to that) it is certainly not because of who they are, it is because they can create the character. This is the basis of all acting. It has become common in the for comedy and other stars, to take on screen persona's that are deliberately confusible with their own - A prime example being Rosanne - but that is most certainly not the norm for acting in the wider world. It should not be taken to mean that actors and actresses always 'play themselves', they don't.
I guess what I'm really trying to say here is that just because Young Kiara doesn't sound much like Lacey Chabert doesn't *necessarily* mean she is not voiced by her - it might well mean it does however. Then the problem is to work out who Kiara IS voiced by. Have you any ideas who that voice is?

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 12 - 14:58

tiara

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That's OK. I would be mad if someone had said that too. Personally, I think that TLK rules!!!!!!


Jul 12 - 14:55

Krazy Kat

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oops! I'm sorry, Tiara..I just get defensive about that kind of stuff..um, from what I've heard ("We Are One") SP's music doesnt seem to me like it'll be too bad but I think TLK's will still be better...well, let's just hope that We Are One wasnt the best song in the movie! I do like We Are One a lot, but I do think they could have done better...

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 12 - 14:50

tiara

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krazykat, I ment the music. sorry about that and thanks for the explanation of TLKoB


Jul 12 - 14:49

tiara

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krazykat, I ment the music.


Jul 12 - 14:47

Krazy Kat

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Tiara, TLKoB stands for The Lion King on Broadway. TLK was just OK? And you think SP will be BETTER? I for one think SP will be alright for a sequel, but in my eyes, and I'm sure many others here, NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING can add up to the gracefullness, emotion, and wonder of what is The Lion King.

~Krazy Kat~
Busa Simba iyo!
TLKiaWoL!


Jul 12 - 14:32

Beerit
no time 4 stuff like this!
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darn.... there's no way Kovu id scar's son.
they made Zira like scar to explain why Kovu looks like scar. now he does'nt look like SCAR, he looks like ZIRA.
I can just hear Disney now: "Scar?! whatever do u mean?!"
damn.... & I wanted him to be scar's son so much... ):
I made this great pic of Kovu & his dad. it rules. it has the sunrise, & Kovu's dad looking at Kovu lovingly. I think its cool. all computer made, too.
Chris Boyce, I ment, I dont think Disney hired her just to tell her "no, your voice aint right!"
of course simba's doughter isnt named lacy chbert & she isnt n actor.... I ment her voice! they wont want her to change her voice. just because she's queen, cant she sound like lacy?????????
thanks, Tau, u're a good person. not like other people here ahem-ahem......

we are one


Jul 12 - 14:30

Tiara

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I think that TLK was an ok movie. I hope that SP will be better though. By the way, what does TLKoB stand for??? Where can u download the song, He Lives In You?


Jul 12 - 14:01

kiara

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i hope that Timon and pumbaa sing their hakuna matata song to me when the movie comes out cause that was my fave song on the track. I also wonder if circle of life will repeat itself ( the song i mean)I wonder if Mom and Dad know what's gonna happen.

HAKUNA MATATA!
WE ARE ONE!
BUSA SIMBA!


Jul 12 - 13:34

Kiara

Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

hi everyone! Your princess here! I hope that Disney might make a TLK trilogy. Oh and just to put in another two cents, I want to thank Rafiki, Kovu, Uncle Timon and Uncle Pumbaa, Mom, Dad, and Grandma Sarafina and Kovu for making my birthday yesterday the best one i ever had. Well, bye everyone!


Jul 12 - 13:22

Alexander

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Just a note about my post below----I am fully aware that the Feature Division has nothing to do with SP. In this post I was just stating that the Feature division's projects (such as Hunchback and Hercules) have not made impressive box office numbers but have made money for Disney on video anyway.

Meanwhile, Disney TV animation seems to be flourishing: One Saturday Morning on ABC (which is not really Disney-esque) has been a big hit, the division is working on many direct to video projects, and the studio is expanding its horizons with a diverse team of writers and artists. It seems that the tables are being turned, as the Disney TV division was often overlooked and Disney Feature was always highly praised and very visible in the media.


Jul 12 - 11:38

Kiara

Location: Future Queen Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Hi everyone, your future queen here!! I went to Barnes and noble today and i reserved the SP story book. I will b picking it up on Aug 5th (it will b delivered then is what i was told.) and if anyone wants me to spoil the story for them i will. Just e-mail me and i will tell u, but u must not tell a soul what i will tell u or i will spread rumors about u being a pooh lover


Jul 12 - 11:04

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

Chris- Whedon is a GREAT screenplay writer. Buffy the Vampire Slayer is one of the main reasons I own a television. (Besides for watching TLK, of course) Have you ever even watched any of the eps? If you have you can't possibly talk about him that way. I hope he's working on SP.

We Are One


Jul 12 - 10:39

Alexander

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Chris, you are right, Disney could make SP much better, but the reality is that it has a much lower budget than TLK. I think more might have been poured in to SP if it was a theatrical release, but since somebody at Disney thinks it is more cost efficient to do a direct-to-video, I guess we just have to have faith that SP will be a worthy sequel to TLK.

On a related note, I wonder what the future of Walt Disney Feature Animation will be. They have more employees than ever before but the films they are making now seem to most successful for Disney on home video. Even The Lion King, which made a mint at the box office, was even bigger on video: It became the number one best selling video of all time!


Jul 12 - 10:25

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Alexander,
I am not doubting your ability to find inforamtion. I have already seen the reference at the URL you give. What I do doubt is whether Josh Whedeon's involvement is a good thing. It may be, but not just because he was involved with writing 'Toy Story' - did he do any of the lyrics for that? Or did he just work on the screenplay?
Sure, there may well be glowing reports of his work, but so far I've not found any :-(. Had I found some I would be more optimistic.
Look, there are a lot of rather better lyricists than Marty Panzer (who wrote 'We Are One', which while being hummable is hardly brilliant lyrically) and Josh Whedon. We also know (or are fairly sure) that Hans Zimmer is not writing the score - it looks that Nick Glennie-Smith is (who worked on TLK). This all looks as if Disney are NOT using the big musical guns which they *Could* have got to do SP. Not that any of these folks are second-rate or anything, but face it, they are not Rice-John and Zimmer. "We Are One" may well be the best song in SP (I think reports have said there will be five in all). This is not a particularly good sign. There again, the reviewer could well be totally wrong - I *hope* so.

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 12 - 10:12

Krazy Kat again

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E-mail: krzykatmer@aol.com

Hey, I almost forgot- I was watching the Mr Magoo preview for the 345787987955th time lastnight, and, I noticed- they were kinda portraying Simba as-nasty, I thought. Cuz here he is, nice and sweet in the "We Are One" Clip (BTW, someone said We Are One did not live up to their expectations a long time ago-this message is kinda outdated, but I really like "We Are One"! anyway..) and suddenly he's all "GET OUT!" and "You were banished with the other outsiders!" etc.

Ooh, i reeeeaaally like Zira. I hafta admit, when i saw her picture w/out seeing the whole clip and her voice- she seemed kind of weird looking to me. but when she says "These lands belong to Scar!" she looks really cool...you all probably know this already but hey, i just got to see the clip!

Okay, that's all.

ooh, one more thing! (sorry) why was there so much controversy over whether the song on mr magoo was "He Lives in you" or "They live in you"?? "He Lives in You" is a much more full song and I think ANYONE can distinguish Lebo M from the guy that did Mufasa on TLKoB...plus...the two versions are alike in some ways, but they are very different if you listen to them back to back.

Just my 1 cent.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 12 - 09:47

Krazy Kat

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E-mail: krzykatmer@aol.com

Hey all. Someone sad Vitani was cool but she looked like a boy? She looks like a tomboy to me, but not a total boy. I mean, if you took Shenzi's "Bangs" away and added Banzai's hair, she'd look like a tomboy too except for the pointy nose- well, maybe not- but that's not the point. I think Vitani's appearance makes her unique from the other lionesses and gives her character. And that's why I think she's going to be one of my favorites- I just hav to hear her SAY SOMETHING first....

Sarafina could be in SP, maybe we havent seen her in the previews because she just doesnt play very *important* role again. "Hmm, what do you think, Sarabi?" I don't recall seeing Sarafina in any TLK previews, and God knows, i've probably seen every one in the English language..

Agh, Chris! I need to E Mail you! I don't know where to begin with Immue...

Kris, when you subscribed from TLK-L you should have read your welcome letters more carefully! I suppose is better to ask here than on the list (they'll tear your head off, y'know..)

Go to the Lion King List Page, click on Zazu "Our Majordomo" and beneath all the subscribe stuff there should be an "Unsubscribe" button. If you don't know where to find the TLK-L page, in this archive, go to TLK Interactive and it should be in there someplace.


I've been Fan-Arting like crazy and by *someone's* greedy request they'll only be found on *someone's* The K Lands eventually...

I watched The Mr Magoo trailer (Yes, i finally got it downloaded- off my dad's laptop, though) and I see a Scar nowhere on Kovu. I'm gonna have to agree with Chris on this one- I think it's a screwup. Disney's done it before- they'll do it again.

Beerit, I still cant download these pics you're sending me. They still say "WARNING" and all that stuff..I have to be very precautious w/ this stuff- I've gotten viruses-a-plenty...

I wonder if The Disney Store will come out w/ their own SP plushies, not just e-toys? I say this because- well, I don't like the e-toys. Did you see the Nala licking Kiara? She looks like a dog! Who do they have making these things? Poor Nala...
I also ask this because I don't see e-toys making any Vitani or Nuka items besides their hideous beanies.

I also noticed e-toys recycling TLK products. How about the kissing Kovu and Kiara (Magnets in their noses) ....?? They remind me of two cubs I used to know....

oh, and do ya think they'll come out with new Simba and Nala stuff? I'd really enjoy an Adult simba plushie, thats NOT A 40 DOLLAR PUPPET!! That's the only one my Disney Store has...

I cant get off this merchandise stuff..do ya think The Disney Store will make Vitani and Nuka beanies like they did w/ Kovu and Kiara? I doubt they'd leave it just at e-toys...Disney=Greed.

Oh, one last thing, I promise!
Everyone saying Lacey's either not doing Kiara's voice or sounding different- it could be making her sound different- take Jaleel White for example, they guy that did "Steve Urkel"...His character sounded nothing like him AT ALL. Which I thought was good. I would think it'd be hard to act w/ an unatural voice, but he did a pretty good job of it. So we might never know until the movie is released or Disney gives further word; which I doubt.

Okay that's it.
~Krazy Kat~
<big long sig I dont feel like typing after all that>


Jul 12 - 09:31

Alexander

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Chris, Chris, Chris---are you doubting my abilities to find information? The article I found about the SP songwriter is the real deal---it is from Animation World, for God's sake! What more do you want? Here's the URL:

www.awn.com/mag/issue3.4/3.4pages/3.4films.html

So you are saying that we should give up hope just because of ONE CRITIC'S opinion regarding the abilities of Josh Whedon? Reviews from critics can be very different and I'm sure that there's been a glowing one for Whedon at some point.

About the Kovu with the scar thing: Why are you guys saying that this litho has an error on it? That's a mighty significant error to make. How the heck can you say that Kovu without a doubt does not have a scar just from the Mr. Magoo trailer? The Magoo trailer doesn't show the whole movie!


Jul 12 - 09:31

Tau

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Ok, I can't help but open my big mouth about this scar thing. Looking through a few screen-grabs of the Mr Magoo trailor (specifically the one where Kovu is watching Kiara who's getting ready to roar), I found no indication of a scar over his left eye. I sincerely hope that the artist(s) of the envelope made a boo-boo with that. In all honesty, I think that giving Kovu a Scar-like scar would make him too Scar-ish. So unless the writers have a really *really* good reason for giving him a wound like that, it's going to be real boring.
Beerit (and anyone else wondering) -- a lithograph is an old, old, *old* style of photography. Instead of printing pictures on paper (like today), the ink was transfered directly to something such as a sheet of aluminum or zinc metal. At least that's what my dictionary said.

Hakuna Matata all.


Jul 12 - 07:35

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello All,
There's no sign - so far - of Sarafina appearing in SP at all, and Sarabi too. We've already heard Mufasa's voice in the previews, and they sound like 'Ghost' appearances to me, after all, he IS dead.... Rafiki appears in the previews too, and I suspect his role will be as in TLK - a plot facilitator rather than a major part. Zazu can be seen in a number of places, though always flying. I'd love to see Vitani and Nuka, and better yet hear them say something, and it's possible we'll get that chance in future previews/trailors. There are bound to be more, especuilly on videos. Disney won't just keep on showing the same ones over and over again. What's the next Disney video release? Look out for trailors on other less-obviously Disney videos too (Miramax, Touchstone et al) especially if Disney is targeting the parents who are actually going to be paying for the videos.

Bye,
Chris.

PS: I had a not inconsiderable part in producing Yaguara! (the jaguar story that's been mentioned here) It's quite good :-)


Jul 12 - 07:08

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello Folks,
Beerit wrote:
"well Chris, reviews r not always right u know. its all a matter of taste."
Yes, reviews are not always right, but they are not just about matters of taste. There are objective elements to reviewing, its not just about subjective opinion. I do not necessarily agree or disagree with the opinions stated in that review, I merely reported it. The point is that some have doubts about Josh Whedon's ability, and that he is not known *at all* as a lyric writer. This, for me, is not a good sign for the song he is supposed to have written.
"about lacy, Chris, I hardly think disney hired her to NOT sound like hersalf, do u? ((;"
YES! Absolutely! Actors and actresses are hired for their ability to portray characters other than themselves, that the *whole* point of acting! Have you actually met Lacey in person? How do you know what she *really* sounds like, when not 'on stage'? I suspect she would sound at least a little different from her performances, maybe not much, but she, not any other actors or actresses, IS NOT the character she portrays. Disney didn't hire Jeremy Irons to play Jeremy Irons, he was hired to play Scar, and to create that character for the film - though you would hear hints of Scar in Irons' own voice, you would have to admit that they, Irons and Scar, sound significantly different. So my questions still stand, if Young Kiara is NOT voiced by Lacey Chabert; who DOES voice her? Come on all you folks, if you know who it isn't then who IS IT? Also who does Lacey voice or sing for? Maybe she does sing for Kiara; if so what is her singing pedigree? I think we will get to hear Kiara singing, that's par for the course for Disney. If Lacey can't sing well, then who might sing for young Kiara, what about Neve Campbell - can she sing? If not who might for Adult Kiara. Stop just saying, "nope - can't be" and start thinking and making constructive comment.
Kovu clearly has a scar on the litho envelope, but that's the only place. Either he gets it late in the film, as has been suggested, or it really is simply an error. Personally, I think it's a screw up; simple as that.

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 12 - 06:28

Shannador

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E-mail: shannador@erols.com

I just had to point one little detail out... With all the rumors running around about Kovu carrying a scar something came to mind. The only evidence (that I am aware of at least) is the posted picture for the litho-cover. I saw it and it is rather blatant, but even after that I had to point out one fact, I went back and went through both the We Are One trailer, and the Magoo Trailer, frame by frame, and saw not one trace of a scar on Kovu throughout either. So, in all likelihood, even if he does end up scarred I'd have to wager that it doesn't happen until the end of the film.

Comments?


Jul 12 - 05:53

Kris

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Oh, ooops!
Sorry about posting that question 2 times!


Jul 12 - 05:43

Kris

Location:
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Hi people.
....does anyone know how I drop off the TLK-mailing List?

Kris.


Jul 12 - 05:19

Kris

Location:
E-mail:

Hi people.
I just wondered....does anyone know how I drop off the TLK-mailing List?

Kris.


Jul 12 - 05:19

Panthera Leo
Lioness
Location: Norway
E-mail: pleo83@hotmail.com

Hi again!
I just wanted to thank you people who sent answers to my questions, thanks a lot!
I saw the bean bag pics of Vitani and Nuka, and the fan art of Vitani. They were great, but Vitani looks like a boy!!
Also, I'm happy that Sarafina will be in SP. Too bad Sarabi won't :-( i'll miss her...
I still wonder what part Mufasa will do in SP.
I mean, he's dead! And as other people have said before....another ghost apperance would be stupid.
Hmmm....yes I saw that Kovu had a scar over his eye. I guess Simba gave it to him in the fight, or maybe Zira....don't ask why, it's just a thought!
Maybe she wanted to relate him even more to Scar, so she gave him....the scar...
Yeah, maybe Vitani and Kovu are brother and sister. And perhaps Nuka too! The color he had in the bean bag pic looks a lot like Zira's.
Maybe they are all her cubs.
I doubt that Kovu is Scar's son, but he HAS to be related to him in some way! We'll probably never know who's his real father....Disney won't let him be Scar's son, cause that's 'inbreeding' if he ever has cubs with Kiara...but on the other hand, they won't tell us who's his real father, so TLK fans can think whatever they want to think....

Well, I'd better stop now....

TLKiaWoL =)

#Let Simba kill the pooh#

-Panthera


Jul 12 - 04:39

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

sorry, one more thing. rafiki is in that pic. u think he'll have a big part on SP? Kiara looks a lot like simba in it. on purpose?
Kovu looks great except that horrid scar!

we are one

p.s. WHAT ARE LITHOGRAPHS?????????????


Jul 12 - 03:03

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

oops, Chris posted right before I did......
well Chris, reviews r not always right u know. its all a matter of taste.
& the scar, u can see it quite clearly at
http://www.lionking.net/coolstuff/simbapride/simbapridelithioenvelope.jpg
no, its not the grab, though u can see it in the grab too, this is the litho-something. look at it & u WONT miss the scar. I guarantee.
about lacy, Chris, I hardly think disney hired her to NOT sound like hersalf, do u? ((;

we are one

p.s. what's a lithographs?!?!?!?!?!?!?! & what's litho and envelope artwork?!??!?!?!?!?!? please tell me! I'M TOTALLY IN THE DARK!!!!


Jul 12 - 02:59

Beerit

Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Alexander, did I sound dipressed when I said that? (;
its ok, I didnt say its a stupid addiction & u're spending your money 4 nothing, or something like that. I just said I didnt like them. u guys can shop till' u drop, 4 all I care.... (:
Ducky, yhea, Po5 is great. can u email me & tell me what's up is your country. though I dont think u're that far ahead, I'm curioul. I cant emagine lacy singing. talk, maybe. but I would never think of her 4 singing kiara 4 some reason.... hmmmm.... !:
I agree with Krazy Kat, they're trying to confuse us. damn Yankees.... (;
a sly look? maybe its not sly, maybe its loving? kinda like she's checkin' him out? when u think about it, sly & checkin' out looks r much alike. r u sure its just sly, or checkin' out???
that scar sucks!!!!! I think Simba gave it to him when they fought. but someone wrote here a LOOOONG time ago "wouldnt it suck if disney would give kovu a scar on his eye during a fight with simba?" or something like that, but sucking part about the scar is the main point! that guy/gal was right!!!!!! this sucks!!!!!!!!!!

we are one

p.s. I'm working on Kovu & Kiara's cub pic right now. having some problems with the colors. every color is taken fron Kovu Kiara Simba & Zira. I just mixed them all together & made the little baby. I came up with a name too. but only Krazy Kat knows what it is & seen the pics & if she shows someone else I will kill her.... (#(;
>hint< >hint<


Jul 12 - 02:43

Chris

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello Folks,
I've had a dig around, but cannot confirm the involvement of Josh Whedon in SP. On the other hand it doesn't make much sense for him to have written some song lyrics, he's a screenplay writer and lyrics may well not be his thing. He appears not to be all that good a screenplay wright either:

extracted from a reveiw of "Alien Ressurrection"

Jeunet's direction was the least of "Resurrection's" complications. Screenwriter Josh Whedon's script was ridiculous, leaving
competent actors like Weaver and Ryder with paper-thin characters. Maybe Whedon does not have to worry about character
development on "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," the Warner Brothers program of which he is executive producer and director, but
he should have been a little more prepared for "Resurrection." Also, the young author's only prior screenwriting attempt was
Disney's "Toy Story." One has to wonder how such an inexperienced writer was given a monumental assignment like
"Resurrection."


As for Whedon's characters, Weaver's Ripley is more comparable to the Terminator than her prior "Alien" roles. Weaver
overacts in her attempt to portray Ripley's new alien attitude, a situation the actress should never have been put into in the first
place. The performance is especially disappointing considering Weaver was nominated for an Academy Award for "Aliens," a
role that proved women could carry action films just as well as men.


A waifish Ryder does little to assist Weaver on this sinking ship. Full of her typical reactionary shots, Ryder's character is a
bystander in this action flick. A victim of Whedon's ridiculous screenplay, Call seems to serve little purpose in the film until the
conclusion, which comes too fast and kills the limited amount of suspense with rushed sequences.


That seems about par for the course. We'll have to wait and see...

Kovu has a scar eh? I can't see anything like a scar in that screengrab, I think you are looking to hard FOR something, rather than AT something; sorry.

As for Lacey Chabert not providing the voice of young Kiara - that is possible. If not, then a) who is the voice? b) What role is Lacey playing (she says its a daughter of Simba)? c) She's an actress (I think) and if she's anything like a good one she won't necessarily sound like herself or any of the other characters she's portrayed. I know all characters Sean Connery plays all sound like Sean Connery, but really that is NOT what acting is all about!

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 12 - 02:41

Arctus
BearPaw Productions
Location: Jax, FL
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org

That's a pretty amusing concept, Krazykat... however, I'll wager that the employees of your local Disney store probably are just uninformed. The likelihood of a part-time employee making around $6-7 an hour starting and maintaining a nationwide scheme to fool TLK lovers is just not very... well, feasible? :)

Now, if you're referring to the Disney Corporation working up a scheme, I guess my response to that would be, when HAVEN'T they done that? ;) They loooooove to keep us guessing, don'tchya think?

Needless to say, I enjoy the tease. :)

Your friendly neighborhood grizzly,

Arctus

HAKUNA MATATA, WE ARE ONE, LONG LIVE THE KING/QUEEN (take your pick)


Jul 12 - 00:30

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: krzykatmer@aol.com

Swyft, I suspect that the Disney Store "Cast" is telling us all different things to get us confused and keep us hanging. Maybe this is part of Disney's new marketing plan, along w/ the more adult previews.

Hey, i was just thinking, I know in the framed pic Vitani is giving Kovu a "sly" look, but I wondered, before i heard of this pic, if Vitani and Kovu were brother and Sister...? Just a thought. They do kind of look alike.

Yay! I finally downloaded the Mr Magoo trailer! Had to do it on my dad's laptop, though- somethings wrong w/ my mpeg player...i really liked that preview! Zira looks cool and sounds cool, especially when she goes, "This land belongs to Scar." gawsh I think I'm not only a Kovu and a Vitani holic, I think I'm close becoming a zira-holic!!

Well, that's all for now.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 11 - 20:54

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

Hey, I forgot to say this earlier, but when I bought my Kovu and Kiara beany babies a few days ago, the sales manager said Kovu was Scar's _protege_, he didn't actually say he was his son or grandson or whatever. I wonder why everyone is getting told different things?


Jul 11 - 20:08

Ducky

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I have to agree w/ beerit, lacey chabert IS NOT kiara! i dont care what anyone else says! Party of Five is my favorite tc show and ive pretty much seen ever episode and im pretty familiar w/ her voise and kiara sounds nothing like her! maybe kiara will sing and lacey will do that but i really dont think that kiaras speaking voice is her. if im wrong, than whatever!


Jul 11 - 19:31

Alexander

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E-mail:

Just ran across a SP tidbit on Animation World Network's website, www.awn.com.

There was an article on Fox's upcoming animated feature, "Dracula" which is in development at a company called Mutant Enemy, headed by a guy named Josh Whedon. Whedon, the article says, wrote a song for The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride. He contributed to the screenplay of "Toy Story" which hopefully is a good sign for SP: Toy Story was very popular in the US, earning over $200 million in theaters!

Beerit, lighten up! I love merchandise from movies because it is like having a tangible piece of your favorite film. Sorry, but I'm going to post info on any new SP trinket I see!


Jul 11 - 17:38

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

I cant believe this!!!!!!!
Mulan's not showing anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!
eeeeeeeeeerg!!!!!!!! I wanna see it damn it!!!!!!!!!!!
all the movies I missed on cinema (TLK, Herc) were my favorites!
but I have a feeling I'm gonna like Mulan, even though the preview I saw sucked.

Vitani holics, beware, there's a GREAT vitani pic which I'll put in my site very soon,
made by Kobu, & can be found on her page at www.lionking.org/~kubo. go see it! its great!
Alicia Miller, I think u're a little confused, I'M QUEEN OF LION KING. (:
what is it with merchandise? I never found any interest in it & never will. ts much better to
spend your money on buying the tape, or bribing a Disney producer, or.... oops....
I just skip the merch talk messages. I don't really care. & if there's a new SP merch then I
spot it & read only the info on THAT!
shenzi, u have good taste. grease is great movie.
I liked the animated beginning a lot! it was funny.
& john travolta is one of the most talented actors of this decade,
& from what I've seen, the century even! I love him, he ruled on
"pulp fiction" or whatever it was called in english, & "face off" was awesome.
I felt like choking that sandy girl, but we wont get into that. (;
u think SP's gonna be like poco, that Simba is fighting Kovu (couse there's always a
fighting scene!) & Simba's
on top of Kovu, ready to beat the hell out of him
& then Kiara screams "father! don't! I love him!" then Kovu & Simba go "uh?!"
or something? couse I pictured the scene when Kiara breaks off S & K's fight, & that's
how it looked to me.
though Disney wont do that, I cant seem to get that image out of my head.... I don't know
if that's what happened in poco couse I had to go to the potty
(pretty pathetic, uh?), but I seen previews, that's what generally happened right? so, after
I saw I cant get rid of that scene in my head, to make it more amusing,
I added the "uh?". tehe.................................. what do u think's gonna happen?

lacy chabert (or something) is NOT doing Kiara's voice. no, don't scream "who told u?!",
I guessed. I mean, that didn't sound remotely like lacy.
I'd know her voice a mile ahead. I really like her. that's NOT her!!!!
shenzi, Disney don't care about history. they want money! if they did care they'd wont
make a TLK TV show (maybe) & wont dream of making a sequel to SP.
by the way, we can imagine Simba as a loving father, but as a wise grandfather? I don't
think so.....

erg Kara!!! get a scan at any cost & email it to me!!! if u don't have n email then make
one off yahoo or something! if by any chance u cant do THAT put it on a disk & give your
friend who HAS n email!!!!!!!!!
JUST GET IT TO US !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh, Snowy, why would u defend yourself? I though u said there WASN'T a version of
HLIU on TLKoB & I said there was. I didn't think it had anything to do with ROtPL. sorry.
my mistake.
oh!!! damn! I loved that version of HLIU!!! & Brian removed the MP3 files from his page.
erg! we don't have the CD here. ): & I liked the song so much.... it much better then the
one on TLKoB.......

Kiara, I like u! but lets not ditch pooh lover. the pooh, uh, I mean, poor guy was dropped
on his head when he was a kid.... (:
just kidding! but SP isn't as popular as pooh. not yet at least, & we've gotta say this 4
pooh, he...... uh...... he...... uh....... that's right!

I resaw "Dumbo" last night. man, that Dumbo is cuuuuute! good thing he
didn't talk in the movie, it gave him character.
god, Dumbo was my childhood movie. I loved it. I remember the elephant
song as one of my life's most amazing moments.
its so simple too, the animation. not like the great savanna views on TLK,
or the.... ummmm... big place where quazithingie lived. or the AMAZING
backgrounds u see on herc (herc topped them all in backgrounds, I think).
with Dumbo the sky r just a VERY light blue, almost white, & some clouds u
can hardly notice. the good old days..... aaaaaaaaah.....
how I loved that movie....

what's a lithographs?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!?!? & what's litho and envelope
artwork?!??!?!?!?!?!? please tell me!
hmmm.... I cant seem to stop writing. ok, no more reading 4 me! from now on I'm
keeping my messages shorter.

p.s. 90 screen grabs coming up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
p.s.s.I just though of something awful!!!!!!!!!!!!
u guys will get to see SP weeks before I do!!!! months even!!!!!!!!! & I read somewhere
that SP will be sold on US only!!!! u think its true!?!??!?!?!?!!?
u think I could buy it over the net?!????!?!?!?!?!!? what m I gonna do if it
cant?!??!!???!??!?!?!!?!?


Jul 11 - 16:05

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

Shenzi, John Butkitt recommended me to read the story about the jaguars. He said that if you like the Chronicles, you would like this story too.
I think it will be as great as the chronicles, but it is no Africa... But I will read it, sometime!

*he lives in you*
*let Godzilla deal with Pooh!*

Dara


Jul 11 - 14:23

the Panther
student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahoo.com

Krazy Kat: i'm still interested in reading these stories,,,

and i still need Fan art for my Homepage
Please?
thanks
the Panther


Jul 11 - 13:54

TLKFan/Kovu

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I just saw something that revealed why Kovu has a scar on that envelope for the litho. I was surfing through Timduru's SP site, when I saw a picture of Kovu and Simba roaring at each other, and I looked closely and saw a SCAR on his left eye!!!! The URL for anyone who wants to see the pic is at:
http://home.lionking.org/~timduru/tlk/sp/magoo/sp_magoo81.jpg
And here's my speculation :)

I know what you all are gonna say "Then how come he doesn't have a scar when he and Kiara are on top of that hill when she roars, scaring the birds?" :) Well, my speculation is is that when Kiara and Kovu return to the Pridelands, Simba and Nala discover them, and Simba possibly bans him from seeing Kiara, and Kovu returns to the OUtlands, where he tells Zira his destiny is to avenge Scar, he returns to the Pridelands, and tries to fight Simba, and as they are fighting, Simba gives Kovu the scar, you can look at the pic, it looks like he's in pain, then they both roar at each other, and possibly fight. Just my speculation :)


Jul 11 - 12:29

Jenna

Location:
E-mail: Jenna591@hotmail.com


I just have some questions...
1. Has anyone seen a picture of Vitani or Nuka yet?

Yes, go to the SP multimedia section, then go into the "K LANDS " Their site has some pictures in MSC.

2. Will Sarafina be in Simba's Pride?

??? I HOPE SO!!!


3. How did this pooh-thing start? =)

It was started when I came


Jul 11 - 12:01

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail:

My story is taking longer than planned, work, fixing car and The Lion King Chat take up a lot of my time. Especially work. I done chapter 10 need to edit it and post it, 11 is also done, also needs editing. 12 is in my head being worked out as I type this.

I moved my Fan fic to Home.Lionking.org/~JFT
I'll let you know when I get the next part done. See you in the chat room.

P.S. I'm sick of Pooh. Heys evrywhere at work. Aughhhh


Jul 11 - 10:40

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: krzykatmer@aol.com

Panther, my "Calypso Chronicles" stories arent sci-fi, they just take place in another dimension. They are not in the Text Files archive because Brian said they were not related enough to TLK. I am currently working on my Sarafina story which should be done soon as soon as i get in touch w/ Chris Boyce...

Panthera, I hope the E Mail i sent you answered your questions!

Well, That's all 4 now, folks.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 11 - 10:36

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

Thanks Krazy Kat and Alexander for answering my questions. And actually, Alexander, I think it would be cool if my kittens grew up to be bad guys, they're always the best characters in a movie right?


Jul 11 - 10:26

Panthera Leo
Lioness
Location: Norway
E-mail: pleo83@hotmail.com

Hey people!
I've read this list before, but I've never submitted anything before.
I just have some questions...
1. Has anyone seen a picture of Vitani or Nuka yet?
2. Will Sarafina be in Simba's Pride?
3. How did this pooh-thing start? =)

Well, I guess I have to keep up with you then:
#HATE THE POOH"
#FEED THE JURASSIC PARK DINOSAURS WITH POOH#

TLKiaWoL
Hakuna Matata
e.t.c.

-Panthera.


Jul 11 - 06:13

the Panther
student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahoo.com

Krazy cat: wheres all your stories? I can only find the one about Sarabi in the textsektion of this site, didnt you say you were doing a sci-fi or something based on the Lion King? I would like to read it, im a big sci-fi/fantasy fan,,.

And about all the rumors on Simbas pride, Have you americans seen half the movie allready??, sometimes it seems like that. Well,, have it nice,
thanks
the Panther

And once again, im still looking for TLK fan art.


Jul 11 - 05:12

Hong Kong Phooey

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I don't believe it is possible to inherit a scar, but that doesn't matter anyway: we've seen Kovu as a cub, and he doesn't have a scar as a young little fella.

It would be a major error for Disney to release a litho of Kovu with a scar unintentionally. I'm sure it wasn't a mistake, and Kovu gets a scar from some kind of animal during the movie.

I just read that there are some SP Applause items out-----PVC straws, and small bean bags----as well as a board game (hopping over crocodiles or something). Keep your eyes open. I'm sure there will be a great deal of merchandise soon.


Jul 10 - 18:53

Ducky

Location:
E-mail:

Ok, i think disney is trying to make it ovious that kovu is scars son, i mean, its not every day you just look exactly like someone else and have a scar in the same exact place! i think its a clue to everyone that he is indeed linked to scar someway(for the people who havent gottan into the simbas pride research). i looked at the mr magoo preview and i didnt see the scar, but they really didnt get kovus left side so it was kinda hard to see, maybe the person making the envelope messed up or something, i donno, but i do think that kovu is related to scar someway, maybe not his son, but somehow blood related.


Jul 10 - 18:32

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: The Outlands (with Kovu)
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Hi everyone! I agree with locking Pooh Bear into a room and make him watch Barney and listen to Hanson, but don't u think that making him watch TLK over and over again and with reviews on TLK about how it was the greatest and including reviews on how great SP is gonna be while reading hate mail from us on how we hate him is a better punishment? Sorry for the run on sentence u guys.
I'm going to get the SP story book when it comes out next month to get the entire scoop (Even I, the star, doesn't know what's gonna happen to me and Kovu). IF ANYONE WANTS ME TO SPOIL THE STORY FOR THEM WHEN THE BOOK COMES OUT TO LESSEN THEIR CRAVINGS FOR THE VIDEO PLEASE E-MAIL ME AND I WILL TELL U WHAT HAPPENS!! :)


Jul 10 - 18:26

Christian (KH#1)

Location:
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

I am curious about the scar on Kovu's eye but I don't know that scars are inherited. Maybe a mistake made by the artist who didn't know the full story? Or maybe Kovu really does get a scar during his fight with Simba. Barney is definitely worse than Pooh. I'm just glad I live 10 miles from Disneyland where they're keeping the Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. Peace and love to everyone.


Kiara-holic #1


Jul 10 - 18:03

Kichebo

Location:
E-mail: Nuka311@aol.com


kay, I got all the activity set pictures scanned, as well as a photograph of Simba from the Festival of the Lion King at Animal Kingdom, and Kovu's beanie tag (we've only seen Nuka and Vitani's online, and Kovu's is adorable too), so whomever wants em just email me....


Jul 10 - 17:38

shenzi

Location:
E-mail:

thanx brian for the link to krazy kat's story.my mom ordered simba's pride for me today in the disney store. i got the lithograph and the kiara handpuppet. the puppet is cute and the litho is beautiful.i liked the envelope the litho came in, but kovu had a scar over his eye like Scar. i guess its a mistake. krazy kat, no more simba kills pooh stories ? how bout a simba kills barney and hanson story ? that would be interesting. maybe i'll write one. anyway, i saw the simba's pride picture frame. very nice. i like vitani and i don't think her hair do is ugly. it gives her character. if she's like shenzi i know i'll like her. too bad nuka wasn't on the frame, i wanna see him. dara, i was on elsa's pride a few days ago and saw that the authors of under the acaia's wrote a story about jaguars. i think i'll go check it out. hakuna matata ! P.S the lady that sold my mom the video told me that she was told to tell everyone that kovu is eighter scar's son or grandson.


Jul 10 - 17:13

Carissa "Krazy Kat"

Location: Here, Silly
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Hmm....Rumor Mill seems to be at a stand still at the moment, so I'll put up my two cents.

~SMALL TLK SIGHTING~
Um, I was watching the Laverne and Shirley (Schlemeil! Schlemeizel!) Marathon on Nick at Nite, hosted by the guys who played Lenny and Squiggy. They had this thing called, "The Circle Of Sucess". At the credits of each show, they would show their mess-ups or "Bloopers". The guy that played Lenny said, "The Circle Of LIfe-oops. Oh good, The Lion King." Just a tidbit of info.

Oh, I havent been to The Disney Store in a while, so I havent been able to see the framed SP pic w/ Vitani on it. If someone buys it who owns a scanner; I know the person who bought it and told us about it (I have such a cruddy memory, I cant remember who it was!!) said they didnt have a scanner, so maybe they could send it to Brian or someone for their SP section for us to see? Wow that was one long run on sentence...

Shenzi, my Sarafina story is already longer than my Sarabi story, and it's only halfway done. My Sarabi story only took me a few hours so it's not really high quality. My story, "Sarafina's Mate" is going to take longer to get on the net too, because I'm working on two other stories at the moment too, Calypso Chronicles Book Three, "Beyond This Kingdom" which I must admit I'm having problems with. Last year I did a story on Dodger's (Oliver and Company)life, and I am currently changing it, modifying, and morphing it into script form with original songs by me, myself, and I. So "Sarafina's Mate" might not be up someplace until the middle or the end of the month.

Well, that's all I have to say for now besides my incredibly long sig...

~Krazy Kat~
"And Where The Journey
May Lead you
Let This Prayer
Be Your Guide
Though It May Take You
So Far Away
Always Remember Your
Pride."-TLKoB, Shadowland

TLKiaWoL!!

Certified:
Adult-Simba-Holic
Sarabi-Holic
Sarafina-Holic
Scar-a-Holic
Kovu Holic
Kiara Holic
Zazu Holic
Hyena Holic
Nala-Holic

Soon to Be:
Vitani Holic
Nuka Holic
Zira Holic

(MY requirements of being a " " Holic I must have at least a section in my Lion King/Simba's Pride scrapbook and as much merchandise I can get of that character. That is why Vitani, Nuka, and Zira are not yet certified. ;) )

-------------------------
"This Car is Automatic, it's systematic, it's hyyyyydromatic- why it's Greased Lightin'!" -Greased Lightning, "Grease"

"Keep your filthy paws off my, silky drawers, would you pull that crap with a net?!" -Sandra Dee, "Grease"

When I was only three, I used to watch Saturday Night Live and say, "Long live Toonces!" That was 1986. Now, here it is, 1998, and all I can say now is, "May you rest in peace, Toonces."

~In Loving Memory Of:
Toonces The Driving Cat
Born: February 26, 1986
Died: Winter 1993~

"Toonces, look out! AHHHHHH!!!!"

Note: One of my cat's three middle names is Toonces in honor of the driving cat that looks like my kitty.

*Merlin James Toonces Tom Smolko says heyla!*
*Quest Big Simba Smolko says Heyla!* (not to be confused by the middle name, he's a dog...)
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Jul 10 - 14:02

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: The Outlands (with Kovu!)
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

I agree about Pooh being locked into a room forced to listen to Hanson and watch Barney, but wouldn't it be better if he was forced to watch TLk over and over with reviews on how good TLK is and how good SP is going to be while he's reading hate letters to him?
#POOH SUCKS AND SIMBA WILL GET SCAR TO HAUNT HIM!#


Jul 10 - 14:00

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Hey mom, that's not fair!!! You told me to go easy on Pooh Lover, and here u are on your last post bashing the Pooh characters!! I'm going to tell dad!


#DEATH TO POOH AND FRIENDS!#
#RIP OUT HIS FLUFF AND STUFF!#
#HIT POOH ON THE HEAD WITH A BLUNT OBJECT#
# TORCH POOH AT THE STAKE!#
# *&&*^&^%%&%&^^%#$%$@%^#!@$$$&* T0 POOH!! :( #


Jul 10 - 13:53

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

Is nobody surprised by the 'scar' on Kovu's eye??
I mean, that could be a link of Kovu being the son of Scar...

Alexander, that's not a strange thought about Zira who want Kovu and Vitani to be queen and king of Pride Rock. Maybe Vitani is her daughter??

Bye!

Dara


Jul 10 - 12:33

Alexander

Location:
E-mail:

Swyft, it is "Nuka." This is definite as this is the name on the Mattel bean bag of Nuka.

I have also seen the character called Nunka and Nimka in various articles. I don't know if it was a mistake or if that's what the character was originally named.

Hope your cats don't grow up to be villains.


Jul 10 - 12:00

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

Ok, I'm confused here. People keep spelling Nunka's name 'Nuka' Which way is it spelled? I need to know because I have two kittens I want to name Nuka(or Nunka) and Vitani.

Hakuna Matada and busa Simba!


Jul 10 - 10:54

Alexander

Location:
E-mail:

Kichebo, yes, send those pictures in! I'd love to see them.

Nala, I have no idea where this idea came up about Nuka and Kiara being betrothed. It doesn't make sense at all. Why would there be an arrangement for Nuka and Kiara to be a couple when Simba has forbidden any contact with the Outsiders (of which Nuka is one)? Somehow I doubt that Zira has ANY plans for Nuka.


Jul 10 - 09:08

Nala
Queen, yatayatayata
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala413@hotmail.com

Just a quickie! TL meant The Lions (actually, it was supposed to be TLK, but my nail missed the "K", so its The Lions okay?) Hey, I'm a sloppy typer!

Nala, always


Jul 10 - 07:31

Nala
the one, the only, Queen of Pride Rock
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala413@hotmail.com

Morning everyone--

Soo, let me get this straight. On that fram, Vintani is with Kovu, and she has a bowl haircut, ya mean, like human hair? What if...what if, Kiara was betrothed to Nunka, and Vintani was to Kovu, like whoever said (I'm giving credit to you, I just forgot the name, sorry!) and Zira want's them to be the king and queen of the pride lands, but Kiara gets in the way, (maybe Kovu really doesn't like Vintani) and Kovu falls for her. Poor Zira. That was a long run on sentence. Oy! Well, just my two cents, which is more than I got right now, and please keep me posted! I just can't wait for this video to come out!

Sooo--what did you guys think about my conning Disney into giving me my movie early????? Hehe! I'm gonna try it and I hope it works (they gotta keep their customers happy!) Tehe!

Nala

DEATH TO POOH!

P.S. I agree with pooh being locked in a room, forced to listen to hanson and Barney!

DEATH TO PIGLET!
DEATH TO TIGGER!
DEATH TO OWL!
DEATH TO KANGA!
DEATH TO ROO!
DEATH TO EEYORE!
KILL 'EM ALL!

May TL rule forever!

Busa Simba iyo!

**sorry, just a tad bit hyper here**

POOH LOVER--

IF YOU SHOW UP AGAIN, I'LL FIND YOU AND PERSONALLY TAKE CARE OF YOU MYSELF.

**smart person, that Pooh lover is, he/she/it don't leave their e-mail address for the fear of us big people finding it!**

Okay! Okay! I'm done!


Jul 10 - 07:26

Kichebo, Nukaholic (NOT nunkaholic)

Location:
E-mail: Nuka311@aol.com

hey everyone,

i just got use of a scanner for the weekend, so would anyone here like me to send them scanned images of the Simbas Pride activity set coloring sheets?
i don't have my web page yet, so i don't have any place to post the images, but they are darn cute. i could scan the sticker set too. anybody want these pics for their page?


Jul 10 - 07:04

the Panther
Student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahoo.com

Hi all you artists, i'm looking for fan-art to post on my Swedish TLK site, if anyone is interested please mail me

MY TLK PAGE

thanks
the Panther


Jul 10 - 03:32

Kiara Future Queen

Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Hey all u SP fans! The heir to the pridelands here!! I am going to get the SP story book to get the entire scoop (even I, Kiara does not know what is going to happen to me and Kovu) and if anyone wants me to spoil the story 4 u when it comes out so you can lessen your cravings 4 the video, plese e mail me when the time comes and i will tell u. I may not even be Future Queen anymore by then!!! ;)


Jul 9 - 18:36

TLKFan/Kovu(from TLK Live Chat)

Location:
E-mail:

Heheheheheeh I LOVED KrazyKat's li'l "Kill Pooh" Skits, I thought I'd do one :D Here goes!

As Simba, Nala, Kiara and the rest of the Pride feasted on the last remains of the Pooh losers...they spot a two legged creature running to them screaming something "Hey!!! How DARE you kill the Pooh characters!!! Pooh Rules!!! You guys SUCK!!! Pooh was MUCh better than YOU GUYS!!" The creature, soon identified as a human, said as he/she ran up to them. Simba eyed the rest of the pride and as soon as the human came within feet, Simba and his pride pounced on the annoying excuse for a human and feasted..

THE END
#KILL THE POOH#
#FEED THE POOH TO HUNGRY PIRANAHS#
#STAB THE POOH WITH A RAZOR SHARP EDGE#
#BURN THE POOH AT THE STAKE#
#STICK POOH IN A ROOM AND FORCE HIM TO LISTEN TO HANSON AND WATCH BARNEY#

Heheheh, well hope ya enjoyed. See ya all later, and on TLK LIve Chat :)
--TLKFAN/Kovu


Jul 9 - 17:53

Alexander

Location:
E-mail:

I finally made it to the Disney Store today, and was excited to see the Simba's Pride frame. It looks great! I didn't buy it though (it is $18). I figure we'll be seeing tons of SP merchandise soon, and I don't have the room or money to get everything.

Very interesting that Vitani is on the frame. She and Kovu look good on there. I wonder why Nuka wasn't put on there as well. It is interesting because it seems like the frame is presenting them as a couple (Kiara is not next to either of them).

Yeah, I know it is just speculating, but I really think Zira wants Vitani and Kovu to be the queen and king of the pridelands, and Kiara gets in the way. Just my guess-----I'm probably wrong. I seriously don't think that there will be a Nuka/Kiara connection!

The Disney Store was also selling the Pumbaa and Kiara puppets for $10 each. They look pretty nice, but my hand wouldn't fit in them, so I didn't think I needed them (I'm 22 so I'm sure that they weren't meant for me anyway). If you have small hands, they'll be great for you.

Just a little info: they also had bean bags of Gurgi and Hen Wen (from the Black Cauldron) which sold out instantly; and also Robin Hood and Hamm.


Jul 9 - 16:35

Krazy Kat

Location: Here
E-mail:

Hmm...I just posted something kinda long but it dissapeared...I'll type it later on in this post if it won't show.

I just looked at the litho and the envelope and I must say they look pretty good- except one thing- What's up with Simba????!!! They seem to be screwing up with Simba a lot in the misc stuff..i guess he looks better in the framed pic everyone's been talking about, (I havent seen it yet, I just got back from Ocean City)

Well, that's all for now.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 9 - 16:34

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Look Folks, We know absolutely nothing about Nuka and Vitani. About all we've seen of them is a couple of beanies. It's really too early to be making any kind of speculation about what part they play in SP. We DO know they look as though they have some relationship to each other, and Kovu - that much is obvious from the beanies - but what that relationship might be is open to debate. Its pointless making up whole plots around what they might be like, because they will almost certainly be wrong. What this mill is suffering from is a lack of reliable new information to chew over, lets wait and see what happens next...

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 9 - 16:18

Krazy Kat

Location: Here
E-mail:

Hey all,

I'm back. Boy, did I miss a lot!!! I just sat here for a half hour reading everything!! I havent looked at the lithographs yet but I'm getting ready to...

On the subject of Vitani, I have a strange feeling that I'm going to like her. Some were complaining about her funny "Bowl" haircut, but I think it makes her look unique and cute.

On the frame that was described, all the good characters seemed to be in there with Vitani...maybe this makes Vitani a good lioness? It doesnt really make a difference to me because I think I'll like her.

Maybe she likes Kovu but maybe she gives up and Kiara gets Kovu. (That sounds like owning someone but I don't know any other way to put it..)

I'm so sick of Pooh at this point I'm not making any more "Kill Pooh And Friends" stories or even mentioning him anymore. But just one last thing about Pooh..... I was in Ocean City, MD. and I was on the Boardwalk, near the games. Now, there used to be a game where Sylvester the cat popped in and out of trashcans and you had to try and hit him...I'll give you three guesses on what replaced Sylvester.....

Well, I'm off to look at Beerit's site, look at the lithos, and resubscribe to TLK-L....look out, net, The Kraziest of the Kats is back!!!!

~Krazy Kat~
"And Where The Journey
May Lead You
Let This Prayer
Be Your Guide
Though It May Take You
So Far Away
Always Remember
Your Pride"- TLKoB, Shadowland.

PS- Listening to the "Grease" soundtrack at the moment..what a coinkidink everyone's been mentioning it...


Jul 9 - 16:08

Ducky

Location:
E-mail:

Ok, i need to get something straight! you guys think that nunka is kiara's betrothed and that vintani is kovus? im not sure if thats right but thats what i understand. i know its only a guess but it would be a very good story line, kinda like a soap opera.


Jul 9 - 16:07

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

I know it's a bit late... but I hope you all had a well July the 4th!

Snowy, I think you're right on the "he lives in you" from the mr. Magoo trailer. I first thought it was from TLKoB because of the singing voice, because that's the voice from TLKoB... but the insrumental introduction tells me I'm wrong....

Guess Pooh lover is our next victim.... well, she/he shouldn't have come here in the first place! I take it he/she hates the Lion King as much as we do hate Pooh. Sooo, everybody's happy...

Wow Nala! Nunka being betrothed to Kiara!!! AAAAAH! Now THAT would be so weird! Then I wouldn't blame Kiara for picking Kovu!

Jenna, your name sounds like a girls name.
So I don't know who called you a "he"? It's pretty obvious to me. Maybe we should all put our genders right under our names?

Shenzi, I shall really miss the hyena's too, they were my favorite! Well, let's focus on Vitani and (dumb) Nuka... maybe they will sooth the pain?
And yes, the hyena's on the Timon and Pumbaa show were not the same in a bit!! They were sooooooooo stupid!! (I know, they ARE, but not as stupid as in the T&P shows! Ewww!) They were only a little funny in the "Animal Kingdom" (or some title like that) I don't think SP will be the same with all lions in the plot...

Well, I'm gonna check the SP lithographs.
I have no news, it all depends on you!

Bye for the moment!!

Dara

p.s. I just checked the litho and envelope and they are GRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!!!
Well, just the envelope... the litho of Kovu and Kiara was a little bit strange... look at Kiara's face! And did you guys see that???!! Adult Kovu has a SCAR indeed!!!! Just like Scar (scar?.. eh well yes scar) He looks sooo handsome!!! Wow! I'm on fire! What a MAN! Just kidding! Look how big he is in front of Simba! Look at Kiara's naughty face! Ok ok I'm calm now!........... Looks like a happy ending to me. Dang! we know the end by now!...........


Jul 9 - 15:12

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala413@hotmail.com

Okay really quick--this has been a crazy day! I almost listed my email address as priderock@hotmail.com. It hasn't even been a consideration...man...Kiara, what's this about you sneaking off with Kovu. I'll tell your father. Blue Lion, I also think that you brought up a good point. I don't know much about Nunka, but if he doesn't like Simba, then maybe it is because Simba approves of Kiara and Kovu's relationship. Good thinking! Can anyone tell me anything about Vintani? I know absolutely nothing about it. Is it a him or a her? Strange. Well, I need to get back to work (I sneak away to send stuff to everyone) cuz I was SUPPOSED to be back 25 mins ago. Please keep me updated! I don't hit the rumor mill that often (not lately but...), so if you could e-mail me your guesses, it's a lifesaver, then leaving my mail and coming here in only 30 mins. I have to read to TLK-L too! (every day!) There was something else...oh well...that's me for ya...

Bye!

Nala

He's holding back he's hiding
But what I can't decide
Why won't he be the king I know he is
The king I see inside?

Busa Simba!


Jul 9 - 13:01

Wamase2

Location: St.Louis
E-mail:

Pooh Lover,
If you hate TLK so much what the world are you
doing here in the first place!?! If you really do hate TLK go make a little anti-TLK site that no-one is even gonna think about checking out? Leave everyone else alone!!!


Jul 8 - 22:18

Jenna

Location:
E-mail: Jenna591@hotmail.com

Hi!! I just finished my TLK II Story...you know, the screwed up one?!! I know someone E-mailed me and asked me for it, If anyone does, jaut E-mail me at Jenna591@hotmail.com, not snayle@net-2000.net I need opinions.

Thanks!!


Jul 8 - 18:44

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

Shenzi,

Krazy Kat can upload the stories to ftp.lionking.org/incoming, and you can read them from there...


Jul 8 - 18:39

Kichebo, very first Nukaholic

Location:
E-mail:

is it just me, or does the litho and envelope artwork look kinda substandard?
i mean, look at Simba on the envelope! He has a "Mufasa hairdo"!


Jul 8 - 18:19

shenzi

Location: long island
E-mail:

Nala, like blue lion and you said, i think nuka could be kiara's bethrothed. i think it would add a lot to the sp plot. so far it sounds like vitani has a thing for kovu. if she likes kovu ( and he likes kiara ) she might hate kiara and be jelouse of her. nuka and vitani seem like they will be interesting characters. i heard that vitani is supossed to be a little like shenzi. i know the hyena's have no place in sp, but i'll still miss them. i saw them a few times on the timon and pumbaa show, but it wasn't the same. i still wonder what disney will do about sarabi. she's not going to be in sp, but she it would be stange if they didn't mention a reason for her absence in the movie. i hope sarafina has a bigger part in sp then she did in tlk. krazy kat, howz your story about sarafina comming along. is it gonna be longer than your sarabi story ? brian, please put krazy kat's calypso chronicals on your site. he can't e-mail them to me so i can read them because i don't have e-mail. i go online from my local libraries computer. i would be so gratefull. i know his story is not tlk related but its about lions and its probably a good story. he lives in you he lives in me he watches over, everything we see into the water, into the truth, in your reflection, he lives in you.


Jul 8 - 16:59

Kara again (sorry)

Location:
E-mail:

I was cruising around some more and you can see the Simba's Pride lithographs at:
http://www.lionking.net/coolstuff/simbapride/simbapridelithio.jpg and to see the envelope go to: http://www.lionking.net/coolstuff/simbapride/simbapridelithioenvelope.jpg They look really neat.
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 8 - 16:41

Kara yet again

Location:
E-mail:

The Simba's Pride CD will be available September 29th. I went to Amazon.com and they had it there. It's called Simba's Favorites, Lion King 2. Thanks Shiba. Also, what is the site address of the Simba's Pride lithograph? Thanks.
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 8 - 16:24

Alexander

Location:
E-mail:

Have you guys seen the lithos that are being given out with pre-orders of "Simba's Pride" at The Disney Store?

I just came across them on dejanews, and Adult Kovu has a SCAR over his eye just like Scar!!!

I REALLY need to get to the Disney Store and take a look at them and the picture frame! I feel like I'm missing out!


Jul 8 - 15:50

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

hey guess what? I FINALLY got my Kovu and Kiara beanies. Except Kiara's face looks really weird, her chin looks messed up. Kovu is cute though. I haven't been here in awhile so this might be old news, but I was at Blockbuster the other day and I saw this sign that said you could now reserve Simba's Pride.


Jul 8 - 15:35

Ducky

Location:
E-mail:

Hello, i just resently emailed disney records and asked them about the SP soundtx. they said it should come out in october. i also asked them if there would be a musical preview on their web page, they said that there would be. i donno if they will have all the songs or just "we are one". They said this preview would come out betweem Sept-Oct.


Jul 8 - 15:17

Blue Lion

Location:
E-mail:

Nala brought up a good point.. Nuka as be Kiara's betrothed... only thing is, Nuka wants to kill Simba from what I've read. But I guess that might be true, there could be reasons like Nuka wants the throne right away or Simba starts to approve of Kiara and Kovu together and it makes Nuka mad? (after all, it did say Nuka was supposed to be crazy on that one site with the first info) Just ramblings....
It does however seem like there's something between Kovu and Vitani based on that frame.. she's giving him quite a look! Just stuff to think of..


Jul 8 - 15:01

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: hvn711@aol.com

Down with Pooh Bear!! If there are any Pooh lovers out there e amil me so we can have a heated discussion about this Pooh thing. Mom, (nala)will u tell Dad (Simba) about this Pooh thing if he doesn't already know? Maybe he could teach everyone a lesson about fave movie loyalty. I've been running off with Kovu so much(dont tell)so I haven't noticed if he knows.


Jul 8 - 13:51

Jenna

Location:
E-mail: snayle@net-2000.net

Who ever said I was a boy...I'm not!!! Snayle is just the e-mail i use most. I'm a FEMALE!!!!!!!!!!!


Jul 8 - 10:39

Kris
Still TLKfan
Location: Norway
E-mail:

Hey everybody.
Now don't get this wrong...I hate Pooh just as much as you do, but don't you think we should just shut up about him. He's a kiddy character.
We should just concentrate on TLK & SP.
Or what do you think?

#DON'T CARE ABOUT THE POOH#

-Kris.


Jul 8 - 08:57

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala413@hotmail.com

Sorry! My mistake! I just checked the internet movie database and Suzanne Pleshette is Zira's voice. Kathleen Turner is her singing voice. And did anyone know that Kimberly Scott is the singing voice for Adult Kiara. Now I can't wait to hear that!

Sorry for bad info! Shoulda checked earlier! Bye and nuzzles to everyone!

Death to Pooh!

And where this journey, may lead you
Let our prayers be your guide
Though it may take you, so far away
Always remember your pride

Shadowland
TLKoB


Jul 8 - 08:35

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala413@hotmail.com

Real quick, I should read more of this before I post. Kathleen Turner is voicing Zira, and from what my mom says, she has a realy throaty voice. Great villaness! Kiara--That frame that you were talking about, is that the one you got with the movie, or was it in the ad on NBC?

Remember guys--

Simba's Pride is coming out in 111 days! Wow!

Now my only problem is how to miss Technical Drama, Journalism, and winter track the day the video comes out, or I won't be watching the darn movie until midnight!

Bye!

Nala


Jul 8 - 07:41

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala413@hotmail.com

Kiara--

If you were any harsher...I swear. Now love, we both know that SP is gonna be better than Pooh ever was, but if you wanna be really cruel, just write a story where Kiara eats some pooh character. I e-mailed you a while ago, so...you've probably gotten it already. (I'm glad you picked up a TLK name) Well, thank you for sharing that you have prereserved SP before even me. (Disney Store employees cower in my wake) I'll be heading there sometime this week, hopefully. (If only they didn't make the Learners test so hard to pass, I could be driving. Yea right, I'm the world's most aggressive driver. Haha!) Now that I have spammed, I'm just wondering a little fact. Does anyone else think that Nunka MIGHT be Kiara's betrothed (spelling??). I mean, has Disney associated him with Zira for sure? Snayle set up Nunka as Kiara's fiance in his "really screwed up TLK sequel," and now that I think about it, it just might work. Anyone else feel this way???

Nala


Jul 8 - 07:34

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Hey pooh lover u r so wrong. TLK is much more popular than your movie, and so is SP. yoour sequel sucked,and even Eisner said sp was gonna be good. if u say anything mean about my grandpa Mufasa,or my daddy Simba,Im going to let Kovu to bite your head off


Jul 8 - 05:54

Sarafina
Student
Location:
E-mail: sichi@lionking.org

On the He Lives in You in the second preview...

Snowy's right, that's the song He Lives in You from ROtPL. The ob in TLKoB Is They Live in you if I'm not wrong. The melody's the same, but the lyrics are changed. Plus it's not Lebo M. singing.


Sarafina


Jul 7 - 23:37

Snowy

Location:
E-mail:

To Beerit:

Don't take this the wrong way, but while you are familiar with "He Lives in You" as it is presented in TLKoB, I'm familiar with both (all three if you include the two versions in TLKoB). I'm near positive that the one presented on the Mr. Magoo SP trailer is the one from RotPL. The song was stuck in my head after watching the preview, so I listened to it on CD (RotPL) & the two were identical (save for the fact that there was editing done for the preview). I don't really want to start an arguement over the matter, just thought I'd sort of defend (?) myself.

No new info. Sorry. Bye.


Jul 7 - 18:24

Kara once again

Location:
E-mail:

WOW! Did you guys see that the Simba's Pride preview aired during the All Star Baseball Game?! This must be a MAJOR movie if their advertising it on NBC and monthes ahead of time!!! In your face pooh lover!!!!!! I didn't see any pooh commercials in this, did you? Anyway, that's all. Also, I can't scan the frame, because I don't have a scanner, and I have no idea how to get in on the net. I can describe it though. Simba is on the right side, and Nala on the left. Timon and Pumbaa are underneath Nala and Nala is staring at them. Kiara is underneath Simba and is staring up at Kovu and Vitani, who are on a branch up above. Vitani is slyly grinning at Kovu and Simba is staring into nowhere. It's ceramic and has the Lion King Simba's Pride logo in the middle of everyone. Simba's Pride rules over all!!!
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 7 - 18:20

shenzi

Location: long island
E-mail:

hakuna matata ! if pooh lover hates tlk so much, than why was he on this site ? i think grease was a good movie. i have never seen the broadway show, but its one of my favorite movies. eisner didn't speak about the new pooh movie or the poco sequel, but he spoke about sp so it must be good. speaking of poco a lot of you here seem to hate it. it wasn't such a bad movie, i just think it was a big disapointment after tlk's sucess. after tlk everyone was hyped up about poco. did anyone go to the pocohantes animation discovery that was in certain malls across america ? i went to it and got special poco collecters cards. disney saw how much money tlk made and they had the animation discoverey thing because they wanted poco to make lots of money too. poco failed and while the hunchback wasn't so popular ( it got 1 star), i liked it better than poco. the thing i didn't like about poco was the way the characters were drawn. anouther thing i didn't like about it was how the story was presented, and poco looked like she belonged on baywatch. i did like a few of the songs though and i thougt poco's animal friends were cute. when i go in the stores i still see a lot of left over poco, hunchback and herc merchandise( and too much pooh stuff ) but hardly any tlk stuff. this is so disapointing. i know i've complained about hunchback in the past, but i think it deserved more than 1 star. and i wasn't a pooh hater before it became overwelmingly popular. than i got sick of pooh. before i didn't care about him. its just wrong of disney to get rid of something as historic as mr.toads ride, so they can make more money off of poohs popularity. are kovu and kiara the only sp beanies the disney store will sell and who is voicing zira in sp ?


Jul 7 - 16:43

Alicia Miller, QUEEN OF LION KING!

Location: Somewhere in the Pride Lands
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com (DUH)

About the beanie babies of Kovu and Kiara, they are cubs, I got the Disney catalog yesterday. The web address to order them is www.disneystore.com they are catlog no. #17789TT and are $12 for each set.

They also have Lion King stuff, among this is a set of 4 Lion King Beanies (They look VERY strange to warn you all) which is Timon, Pumbaa, young Simba and young Nala, their catalog no. is #16421TT and they cost $24 for the whole set (sorry they don't have them separate) They have a T-Shirt also of Timon Pumbaa and young Simba, email me if you want the Catalog # and sizes (this shirt is for adults and kids) and then they have a Limited Edition Sericel of the "Jungle Swing" which has young Simba, Pumbaa and Timon. It depicts Timon and Pumbaa doing little acrobatic things on a swing. There is on a stock of 3,500 and it costs a whopping $345. Email me if you want more details.

Also, seen this in the Disney Magazine, A Lion King Sericel (The one located on The Caracters Section of this web page, its the one you press to get there) is on sale for $99 it comes framed and matted. Quatities are limited. Visit their web site at www.allamericancollectible.com.

Whew! That's a lot of typing!

Alicia Miller
President of the Lebo M Fan Club (Have you joined?)and
The Queen of Lion King (My collection total count now exceeds over 4,000)


Jul 7 - 12:37

Christian (KH#1)

Location:
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

The URL for the Swahili dictionary is http://www.yale.edu/~swahili. I think thats what it is. Its at the bottom of the front page of the website I made for Kiara. Even if they release SP on DVD they might still wait 'til 2001 to release TLK on DVD.


Kiara-holic #1


Jul 7 - 12:17

Alexander

Location:
E-mail:

I just checked out that Hallmark site. It looks like the ornament of Simba and Nala is a TLK related product, NOT one for SP. It seems unusual to me that Hallmark didn't make a Kovu or Kiara. Oh well. Maybe next year.

About those Hallmark ornaments: they cost way too much! But there are so many Hallmark stores now that you can usually go to their stores AFTER Christmas and find a fairly large selection at half the price (still kind of expensive).

I was shocked that they had so many Mickey ornaments and by comparison only had 4 Pooh ornaments. WOW! Way to go Hallmark!

And I would much rather see a limited amount of TLK merchandise than too much like all the Pooh or Mickey things! You CAN have too much of a good thing sometimes.

OK, someone mentioned that Pooh has achieved a greater success merchandise-wise than TLK. Well, yes, Pooh has more merchandise out than TLK, but Pooh has been around for a LONG time while TLK is just 4 years old. I also think that some people don't always think of Pooh the Disney character, but Pooh as a classic storybook character, so maybe that is why there's a bit more nostalgia for Pooh stuff and therefore more of a demand. Disney owns the rights to both the storybook version and the cartoon version, making things overwhelming.

Also, this Pooh mania right now is stronger than I can ever remember. The Pooh really hit the fan a few years ago. I can remember a time when I was younger that there wasn't that much Pooh stuff: when there was, it was primarily in the Disney parks and at Sears.

Give TLK some time and maybe we'll be seeing more spin off products. But I really hope we don't see TOO much---certainly nothing along the lines of the insane amounts of Pooh paraphenalia. I would much rather just have a little bit of Lion King so the specialness doesn't get spoiled.



Jul 7 - 11:58

Steele
Just being a husky
Location: Nenana, on my way to Nome
E-mail: via telegraph

The address for the DVD article is:
http://www.businesswire.com/cgibin/f_headline.cgi?day0/743322

Anyone interested in DVD should check it out. I just hope the SP info on it is correct. I'd love to get it on DVD. If they release SP on DVD maybe they will release TLK. :)


Jul 7 - 11:04

Beerit who is very tired although its just 20:00
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

I walked past a "happening" store today & it had so many pooh stuff I almost puked.... POOH IS BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Snowy, TLKoB DID feature they live in u. I didnt even know it was on ROTPL till today! I hear it all the time, trust me, I'm quite familier with it!

Kara, Kiara fan forever, scan the pic please!!!!!! I cant wait to see it! eeeerg! I want a disney dtore too!
Kichebo, I'm a Nuka fan as well. I have lots of fan arts of him.
Dara, I AM a guy....
just kidding! tying to give u a heart attack bout talkiing like u did about my name! hehe

saw "grease" today. that movie rocks!
Beverly is cool! its the only show I leave my computer to see! (wow, what lousy TV we have here.... >grin< )but I wont get into it!

I think Kiara was a cub when she was on PR. u can tell. here legs were real short. & she was kinda clumsy looking like a cub. "oh, how can I see my good friend Kovu?" or something.

Dang! mulan's not showing anywhere! it only fot here 2weeks ago & now I cant find anywhere to see it!!!!!! oh, man!!!!!!!!!!!
Neema, its ok. I saw TLK so many times the script kept popping out of my ears. (dont ask...)
now I cant stand it. but I still surf in TLK sites & stuff. & I cant wait 4 SP! TLK will live in me, but GOD is it boring me by now!!!!!
Cold Dragon, cant wait 4 your pics!
I cant log into the lionking server!!!! eeeerg!
my friends, I have 17 new gifs from the MM preview & I cant load them!!!!
by the way, I like them alot better them the may 10th gifs. so get ready!
erg! I cant read all of this! 4get it! I'm skipping the rest of the messages...

we are one


Jul 7 - 09:46

Steele
Just being a Husky
Location: Nome Alaska (I wish)
E-mail: Via telegraph

Okay, two things,

1. There was an article at Businessnews on DVD. This article was on Buena Vista working with Disney on DVD title releases. The Lion King II, Simba's Pride, is mentioned as a future DVD release. Sadly I do not have the URL here with me, I will try to get it so I can post it later. This would be quite nice for those of us with DVD players. :D

2. Although I don't like Pooh much myself I can understand why someone who likes Pooh could get upset with this rumor mill right now. Remember that not all of us like Pooh, but at the same time not everyone likes Lion King. We aren't happy when people bash our favorites and we can't expect them to be happy when we bash theirs. The Lion King may have broken many records so far, but Pooh has done something that TLK hasn't yet......had a fandom that has truly stood the test of time, the continuous sales of the merchandise is proof of that. I only hope that the legacy of TLK can go on as long as Pooh has.


Jul 7 - 08:32

Lioness

Location:
E-mail:

Noo! SORRY!! wrong one! I got mixed up, ignore my last post. I was thinking TLK, not SP
sorry, it doesnt come with kovu and kiara, but simba and nala.
oh well, hakuna matata


Jul 7 - 08:07

Lioness

Location:
E-mail:

Kara-
The beanbag set smilee is talking about, which i mentioned not long ago, comes with kovu, kiara, timon, and pumbaa.
go to Disney.com and click on shop. then click on toys and scroll down. Its there.


Jul 7 - 08:05

Kara again

Location:
E-mail:

Smilee,
About the bean bag set, is that just the Kiara and Kovu set or is there going to be more? I tried going to that site but it wouldn't work. Is there some other way to get there? Thank you.
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 7 - 07:53

Smilee

Location: St. John's NF
E-mail: coryhicks@geociteis.com

Hi everyone!

I just goe a E-Mail from disney about their Lion King II:Simba's Pride Mini Bean Bag Set anyways if you want to check it out just surf on over to
http://shop.disney.com/SummerSelections

Oh and before I forget I finally saw the magoo preview of SP. Now I know what you guys were so excited about!

Smilee


Jul 7 - 07:25

Lioness

Location:
E-mail:

Does anybody know the URL for the english/swahili dictionary site? If so, PLEAZ post it!!


Jul 7 - 06:14

Christian (KH#1)

Location:
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

I have a feeling our angry Pooh lover is now going to start an anti-Lion King site. I was into Pooh probably several years before lots of you were born but I know what Alexander means about a marketing blitz from hell. I don't quite understand it. I thought it was interesting that Eisner stepped down from his pedestal and said anything about SP at all. I was kind of surprised that he even knew about it but maybe Disney really does have high hopes for it. Are there any "Pocahontas II: Journey to the New World" sites out there? That one's obviously a make-a-buck-quick-before-people-realize-it-blows video.


KH#1


Jul 7 - 01:16

Ducky

Location:
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Im sorry, but to the pooh lover, the musical won the best musical award this year and is #1 musical in america. "GREASE" was an awsome musical"especially the movie cause John Travolta stared" but i really dont think that pooh could EVER be a big sucsess musical cause all their songs are about climbing a stupid tree! now please, you must like tlk somewhat cause you came here, AND on the web, i havent found 1 anti-lion king page but i have found a few on anti-pooh, just to let you know that


Jul 6 - 19:36

Alexander

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I have to wonder if this Angry Pooh Lover is for real! If they hated "The Lion King" so much how on Earth did they find out about the Rumor Mill in the first place?!?! It seems like they'd have to have at least SOME interest in TLK to stop by, don't you think?

For the record, I have nothing against Pooh and his crew, but I do HATE what Disney is doing with the characters. What was once a collection of great, unique characters and stories has over the past few years become a marketing blitz from hell. Finding items with Winnie the Pooh or Tigger was once a treat and now it is impossible to visit any Target or Wal-Mart and not be bombarded by tons of Pooh junk right in your face. However, the biggest disgrace of all is that the Disney suits are ripping out a classic Walt Disney World ride----Mr. Toad's Wild Ride----and replacing it with what I guess is a more "synergy-oriented" Pooh ride so they can sell even MORE Pooh merchandise at what I imagine will be a Pooh store connected to the ride!

The fact that this Pooh Lover made such horrible comments about TLK makes me think that their brain is stuffed with fluff, much like Pooh's belly.


Jul 6 - 19:36

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

Well, to be fair...

Do any of us really expect people like a CM at the Disney store and Michael Eisner to say that SP will suck? :) C'mon... these guys do understand marketing.


Jul 6 - 19:21

Snowy

Location:
E-mail:

A little Q&A for the Pooh fan:

1. If you're such a Pooh fan and hate TLK as much as you say you do, what the heck are you doing reading the posts on this site? To even begin to comprehend how sick we are of Pooh and all his merchandise, you would have had to spend hours here reading all our posts. That's a tall order for a Lion King hater.

2. We have no life?! HAH! Who has nothing better to do than sit around bashing? At least we follow what we like.

3. Oh yes, TLK sucked sooo much. Give me a break. Where do you people dig up this stuff? If it was so bad, why, oh why, is it the highest grossing animated feature of all time and not your beloved Pooh bear? Riddle me that.

4. Simba's Pride bomb? Funny, I can't say that Pooh's Search for Christopher Robin (who, I might add, is an obnoxious little pain in the --- just like a certain basher I know) was a success. Matter of fact, that did horribly. Besides which, there sure is a lot saying that SP will be good. A CM at the Disney Store said it, and so did CEO Eisner. You ever think about having a CATscan done?

Honestly, I haven't heard this much bull since what's-her-face claimed that she was with the FBI and said she was going to have us all arrested.

Just had to vent. Thank you for your time.

PS. To this Pooh lover I add: I'm busy, you're ugly; have a nice day. :)


Jul 6 - 19:12

Brian
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

No lives, eh? And yet you found it necessary to jump in with impassioned defense of YOUR favorite cartoon/character.

Calling the kettle black, are we?


Jul 6 - 19:01

Angry pooh lover

Location: hundred arce woods
E-mail:

lion king sucks!!!!! I'm sick and tired of you all bashing pooh! He is a very cute and adorable cuddly bear! And plus christopher robin is a lovable boy. he has manners!!!!!! unlike you people!! you shouldn't rank on pooh. it isn't his fault everyone loves him, he is only a simple cartoon. you guys should give him a break. after watching the film i have to agree with those that say that the movie is full of violence. i know if i had children i wouldn't permit them to watch it. well that thing about the lion king being on broadway well anything can become a show. look at grease ! now that was a winner! yeah sure! i would just love to see simba's pride bomb when it comes out on video. it sounds worse than the first one! plus you know what they say about sequels-they suck!!! sorry, but i can't believe there are sites on the web dedicated to the lion king and you people must have no lives if all you do is sit at your computers and chat about the lion king all day ! i'm sorry if i sound mean but i'm just upset with you all bashing poor pooh. LEAVE POOH ALONE!!!!!!!
POOH KICKS LION KING'S BUTT!
POOH RULES DOMAIN!!!


Jul 6 - 17:26

shenzi

Location: long island
E-mail:

hakuna matata everyone. i have't been here in ages and i don't have much to say. i hope everyone had a happy fourth of july. i hope that sp merchandise comes in soon, i'm sick of all the pooh stuff. they might as well change the disney store to the pooh store. dara, i have nothing against tigger and the donkey. my cousin has the tigger stuffed animal and its cute, but she's got 6 pooh bears. ugggg, curse pooh ! to hell with pooh ! who does Jason Marsden play on step by step ? by the way does anyone like that show ? i don't really like it. i think all those tgif shows are dumb especially boy meets world. since simba and kiara haven't killed any of poohs other friends lately, this hyena is starved ! hmmmm, maybe i could pick off one of the sick wilderbeests...... well bye and chow down. Busa Aiheu ! Busa Kiara ! busa Simba !


Jul 6 - 17:00

Lioness again

Location:
E-mail:

oops!! sorry! I meant Kara.


Jul 6 - 16:10

Lioness

Location:
E-mail:

thanx Kiara!
also, just to tell everyone, in the shopping section, then toys, theres a mini- beanbag set of Nala Simba Pumbaa and Timon. But lemme warn you, Pumbaa is very ugly, and Simba looks just like nala, except darker. Its 24 bucks, and at the Disney Store itself they're 6 bucks each, so I advise you to buy them at the store so you wont have to pay for shipping and handeling.
We Are One


Jul 6 - 16:10

Kara

Location:
E-mail:

This doesn't have anything to do with Simba's Pride. But the Disney website just added a bunch of new Lion King items. It's mostly clothes, but they also have a new sericel. One of the shirts is for adults. It's like one of those pooh (Kill Pooh) tshirts with the three faces in front and the back is their behind. It has Simba, Pumbaa, and Timon and is called Party Animals. Sorry this has nothing to do with Simba's Pride. Also, if anyone sees any Simba's Pride merchandise please post it here!
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 6 - 15:33

Christian (KH#1)
Off-Duty Student
Location: Fountain Valley
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

I keep getting worried that we're building this whole thing up and then we'll get let down by a poor quality SP when it comes out but I realized that if I liked both the previews and have watched each one 30+ times and will probably watch them more then the whole thing itself should be good. Interesting what Eisner said about it. That's all for now. Peace and love to everyone.


Christian


Jul 6 - 11:49

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

Nala,

Takita did get it through her head. Read up a few messages.


Jul 6 - 11:11

Alexander

Location:
E-mail:

Wow, lots of postings were made since I left for a 4th of July trip to Florida! Strangely, not much new information though.

I want to check out that Simba's Pride frame that someone mentioned. Somehow I doubt that it will be at the Disney Store near me. If someone can get a picture of it, let us see it!

Yes, it looks like more TLK and SP stuff will be slowly trickling in and then hit big. I have read that the Disney Catalog might have a bean bag Rafiki and Zazu by September 23rd. Still no word on Scar, Mufasa, and Ed though.

I was only 2 hours away from Walt Disney World this weekend, but I'd rather go to the dentist than make a visit there on 4th of July weekend.

It seems obvious to me that Vitani is part of Zira's pride. She has that nose and scraggly look. I don't know if she'll be mean or not though.

Sorry, but I still don't see how Jason Marsden's Kovu sounds a thing like Matthew Broderick's Simba. I don't know what some of you are talking about! Probably the same people who think that Kovu's mane is black like Scar's (yes, Kovu has a brown mane!).

I guess nobody found the Mulan sing-along tape yet. I still haven't. I did read that it was coming out July 26th, but some of you say it already came out. Has anyone seen the We Are One part from that tape?


Jul 6 - 11:05

Nala

Location: Pride Rock (of course!)
E-mail: Nala413@hotmail.com

Takita--

Get it through your head, HER NAME'S KIARA!!!! Disney wouldn't begin to market merchandise under a name that they'd change. How do you explain the footage on Mr. Magoo when Kiara says: I'm Kiara. Hmmmmmm?????? The cub's name is Kiara, face it!

To everyone else: Sooo...the Simba's Pride merchandise IS beginning to roll in. (I bet not here in hicksville. Great, now I'm gonna have to go to the nation's capital to kill Disney Store employees. Goody) Well, it's about time. Now when (whoever it was) said, you go to get SP at D. Store, they give you everything then. Does that include the movie??? I think Disney will let prereservation begin at 100 days till the movie come out (SP has 113 as of today). I hope so. Michael Eisner said that SP is gonna be really good. Let's hope so.

Well, I have to go finish up some letters to some people, and Hi Christian, I got your letter!

Have fun everyone (oh no, not another rhyme)
AND REMEMBER...We are One!

Nala

P.S. The names KIARA!


Jul 6 - 08:48

Lioness

Location:
E-mail:

Mouse-
I have no idea how they're going to do it, but if they do leave it up to us, I'd continue to think that he's Scar's son. If he's Zira's son, which sure looks like it, he probably is somehow related to Scar. But theres no way to be sure I guess, unless we can squeaz some more info out of people who work for Disney.
ok, how about whenever anyone goes to the Disney Store, we bug them for info- plot, merchandise, you name it! If theres anything new, or something to confirm, post it here!! :)
Hakuna Matata everyone!


Jul 6 - 05:25

Mouse

Location: Mouse hole
E-mail:

Do any of you think that maybe Disney will cercumvent the whole Kovu being Scars son thing? Maybe Kovu will never refere to Scar as his father throughout the entire movie, and neither will any of the other characters. I heard that Kovu says his mission is to avenge Scar, he doesn't say it's to avenge his father. Do you think that Disney would do this and leave the issue of who's Kovu's father unresolved like they did with Nala? Or do you think they have to resolve it?


Jul 5 - 20:22

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

ok.... bye Neema.... guess there's enough X-files stuff on the net to discover....

Michelle, we are ALL SP fans here!! That's why Brian did make this site, so we can tell each other rumors or real news about TLK 2.

Bye!!

Dara

*Gee, I didn't say THAT much today!*
Maybe because there were just a few entries.
Guess you are all partying because of the 4th of July!
Well then... happy 4th of July from me!


Jul 5 - 12:26

Takita

Location: The Pridelands
E-mail: Dash@Connect-2.co.uk

OK, OK, I gotta Apolagise to one, all and Simba and Nala...Thier Daughters name is NOT Shani but Kiara...Darn. Oops! Ok, So here we go again...
KIARA KIARA KIARA KIARA KIARA!!!! THIS IS *NOT* OPEN TO DEBATE! Kiara! Busa Kiara! Ahh, I feel much beter...
Thanx KrazyKat for showing me the light...
Paws and Roars!


Jul 5 - 11:05

Ducky

Location:
E-mail: Ruberduky6@aol.com

WOW!!! ive missed alot! it took me an hour to read what i missed! I was just wondering if anyone knew anything about the SP soundtx. Also, about 2 weeks before Mulan came out to theatres they had music previews of the music at the disney music page. i was just thinking they may have previews for the SP music before the soundtx comes out. Ya never know! if anyone knows of any other songs in SP other than We ARe one please let me know cause im real curious about it! thanx!


Jul 5 - 10:34

Down with POOH!!!

Location:
E-mail: DaMish86@aol.com

I 've heard a lot of Kill Poooh and Friends Series but now is the time for my story.
One day Simba was taking Kiara all throughout the Pirdelands and before he could sing We are One, Kiara spotted a big fat gold thing.
"Maybe Zira's put on a few pounds," Simba wondered. Anyway he knwe it didn't belong here so he decided to confront it.
"What are you doing in the Pridelands which is our kingdom?" Simba snd Kiara snareled at Pooh.
"Oh please don't kill me Sire. And surely the princess watches my TV show.
"SILENCE!! My friends Timon and Pumbaa have a show and they get better ratings and their mercahndise sells better thean yours does. Pooh Bear, say your prayers,and with a big puddle of fluff and stuff and blood, Simba and Kiara had a wonderful lunch. And Pooh's last words, as his head rolled across the grass,(decapitated)was "AHHHHHGHHHH!"


Jul 5 - 06:16

Michelle SP freak

Location:
E-mail: Hvn711

HEY CHRISTIAN THERE IS A SP PREVIEW ON THAT NEW BRAVE LITTLE TOASTER MOVIE. ITS THE ONE WHERE TIMON AND PUMBAA ARE TALKING. Timon- Where'd all that music come from?
Pumbaa- Youd think theere's a new lion king movie or something.
In the end t shows the date. E-Mail me if you are a fellow SP fan


Jul 5 - 05:58

Christian (KH#1)
Guard-Systems, Inc.
Location: Fountain Valley, CA
E-mail: ziebarth-christian@byuh.edu

Hi Everyone!


I'll have to go to my local Disney Store on Monday and check out that SP frame. Dara, you're right, I was thinking that a Lion King ride at Eisnerland (what it might be called someday [and BTW I'm only joking]) could take you from Pride Rock to the Elephant Graveyard and the jungle, etc. Sounds like a good idea. Oh, . . . uhh . . . I don't want to start a mad rush to the video store but I noticed there's a Disney movie called "The Brave Little Toaster Goes To Mars." Anyone know if there's an SP preview on that?


Christian :-)


We Are One


Jul 5 - 01:23

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail:

Opps forgot

I have been drawing tons of SP charictors and I can't wait to get them on the net.
Unfortunitly I don't have a scanner, anyone know if there is somewhere you can rent a scanner, or something like that?

On another note
I am finaly getting my internet access fixed. Turned out it was the phoneline!!!!!!
I can't wait to get back on the TLK chat, I am going into withdraw !!!!!!!!!! :)


Jul 4 - 20:21

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail:

On the early release of SP
I am currently working at Target department store. They tend to get movies about a week or two before they put them out from sale.
So this means that if I am still working there I will be able to get SP at least a week early. They have sold other movies to imployess early before.

If no one objects I will be glad to spoil it for everyone a few weeks early :)
That is if the rumor mill has not figured out the whole story by then :)


Jul 4 - 20:13

Neema.

Location:
E-mail:

Sad. I'm gonna be gone for five days in England to be some student ambassador! Grah! Anyway, something even sadder -- I'm becoming an X-Files freak. Heeeeelp! Arg! I'm disliking TLK! Eerk!


Anyway -- I'll have a lot to look up upon when I get back.... help! I don't... wanna.... go! Ya can't... make meeeeee!


Bye!


Neema.


Jul 4 - 17:55

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Boy, you sure miss a lot when you're only gona a few hours...

Poor, poor, misguided, Takita..still with last year's Shani rumor. I feel pity. =*(

Um, what's this about an SP framed pic, all the good guys and Vitani's in there, eh? Maybe Vitani is in Zira's Pride but she doesnt believe in her ways. Or she could be from Simba's Pride, but it would seem dumb to me to have two guys in one pride and two girls in the other. I still think Vitani looks awfully cute! I don't care if she's bad or not, I think I'll still like her any-who.

Oh...almost forgot...

KIARA KIARA KIARA KIARA KIARA HER NAMES KIARA!!!
hehehe....
Just thought I'd put that in there...

Well, I'll probably do a few more posts this evening but I won't be back 'till Thursady, I'm going to the ocean :::sobs::: I'll miss you guys! :::crying uncontrollably but suddenly stops:::

I'll also have to unsubscribe from TLK-L the week I'm gone 'cuz I hate causing problems. I know some of you on Rumor Mill are on TLK-L so... :::Sobs::: I'll miss you guys! :::crying uncontrollably but suddenly stops::

So when I come back I'll have the Annhialation of Owl for y'all. =)

Busa:
Simba!
Sarabi!
Sarafina!
Scar!
Kiara!
Kovu!
Vitani!

:::Runs off into the sunset:::

~Krazy Kat~
"And Where The Journey
May Lead You
Let This Prayer
Be Your Guide
Though It May Take You
So Far Away
Always Remember
Your Pride"- TLKoB "Shadowland" (My fave verse)
-------------------------
When I was younger,
I used to watch Saturday Night Live and see that cat, that black and silver cat they called Toonces, and I'd say, "Long Live Toonces!" That was 1986. Now it's 1998, and my cheers went unheard. Now all I can say is, "May You Rest In Peace, Toonces."

~~~In Loving Memory Of:
Toonces The Driving Cat
Born: February 25th, 1986
Died: Winter 1993~~~

"Do You Have Any idea what it's like to work with crazy people all day?"

"No TV and no beer make Homer..something something..."
"Go Crazy?"
"Don't mind if i do! gterkyjmrkiynerhithreyjuwqaritgretgryegtry!!!!!!"
-The Simpsons halloween special-
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Jul 4 - 17:33

Hvn711

Location:
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Hi everyone!! Happy 4th o July!! I just found out some critical news on TLK2, SP!!! It will be for presale August 4th at the Disney Store ( I found this out this morning there). It will go 4 about 21 bucks, but hey the money's worth it! ;) Also, with the purchase of SP, you get a choice of either a Kiara or Pumbaa puppet or something. So keep your eyes peeled at the Disney Store. Oh and by the way, if there are any SP freaks like me out there, e-mail me. I'd love to hear from a fellow SP fan


Jul 4 - 16:46

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

Well, here I am sorta "blabbering" into this Rumor Mill again....

Hè, hè, did you finally see the previeuw Beerit?! Told you it was gonna be great! Are you a GUY??!!
(just kidding!) Youre name says it all.
I'm indeed not at the rumor mill early in the morning... in fact, I'm still dreaming of SP and all that stuff... It wasn't early in the morning for me that night. Under my last post there was 12:16, in fact, at my local time it was only around 8 o'clock in the evening. Sooo, just clearing up some unimportant thingies.....

Oh Beerit, about MY music of TLKoB.... I sorta illegal copied it from someone who really has the CD.... illegal..... oh well, I go over the boundries for my TLK... But as I said, I want to buy the CD for real.
I go check out Kubo's site... it sounds cool!
Awwww man! Beverly sucks!! Stupid girls! No not you two, them, on tv!!

I think Kiara was thinking: how can I see that sweet Kovu again when my dad forbid me?
Oh, 'bout Mr. Bean.... how about him getting wet at his pants at the "men's room" and he tries do dry himself? and... he's trying to get his snot away of the panting which turns out to be a REAL disaster? I like him because he always has such origional ideas of solving a problem. Look what he's doing to restore the painting.... Fantastic!

About the Swahili shants... it doesn't matter what they sing as long as it sounds wonderful!!
The Swahili words are blending perfectly with the English words.

Hé Christian! What about an 'Elephant Graveyard ride' at Disneyland??? sliding down a spine works fine to me I think.

Yeah, sure Takita.... it's Shani...
Pity... you seem to be wrong. Shani is not that bad, but I like Kiara better. But who's telling Kiara won't have a sister or pride friend calling like that? By the way... who's Shawnee? stupid question maybe... Is it from Mulan?

Maybe Vitani brags alot, but she's still good. Maybe, if she likes Kovu indeed, she will be a competitor of Kiara and therefor a jealous type and yes... therefor a bad guy (girl).
Maybe, as an adult, she will give Kiara a hard time... but if Kovu did choose for Kiara they'll become friends.... mmmm, I think too much I guess.
I always thought Vitani would love Nuka. But maybe she thinks he's too stupid for her...

Ah well, that's enought guessing for me...
I will go to bed. Yawn! I just saw the World Cup Soccer (probably it won't say anything to you) but my country won of Argentina! Ha!! just a happy person... Next match is against Brazil (awww man! we're as good as dead!) well, you don't know what soccer means to us here in Europe, how crazy we become! Even stores will close when we're playing during the day!! Pretty crazy, isn't it? Ok ok, I'll shut up! This is about TLK and SP!!! I know!

and I'll shuttup right now!................

Dara

*local time: 0:45 at night*
mmmm, so it IS early in the morning THIS time!


Jul 4 - 15:50

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

Takita--

So what makes your word gold? Which should we believe-- you yelling that it's Shani, or tons of Disney merchandise currently on store shelves that says Kiara?


Jul 4 - 15:46

Kichebo, the only Nukaholic (maybe cause the cub smells?)

Location:
E-mail: Nuka311@aol.com

geez, I leave for 6 days and I miss everything...sheesh!

I think the SP cover has a very cool and dramatic look, but I have to agree with everyone else about Simba's huge shnoz. Yikes!

Well, I actually *gasp* have news....just got back from WDW and I found one, repeat one piece of SP merchanise...It is a children's color/activity set, and comes with stickers of Kovu, Kiara, Zazu , Timon and Pumbaa, 8 coloring book-type sheets of the same characters and 5 markers (which also feature Kovu, Kiara, Zazu, Timon and Pumbaa).
No sign of any of the other cubs of Zira. And the outside cover of the activity set has a HUGE error...Kovu and Kiara are colored like Simba and Nala! (yup, Kovu looks really odd in bright yellow....)

On a non SP-related note, the Festival of TLK at Animal Kingdom is wonderful! I won't spoil it for everyone, but if you visit AK, be sure to sit in the lion or elephant section to get a good view of Simba (I got my picture taken with him, woohoo!)

Also, they seem to be pushing TLK more at WDW than the last time I was there....plenty of plushies, backpacks, and other stuff. There are new t-shirts but no SP stuff other than the activity set.

I'm off!!!


Jul 4 - 15:29

Kara, Kiara fan forever

Location:
E-mail:

Hey everybuddy. I just got back from the Disney store and I saw this Simba's Pride picture frame! It had Nala, Pumbaa, Timon, Simba, Kiara, Kovu, and Vitani. It cost 20.00 but it was worth it! It's just beautiful... The only thing is that I think Vitani might like Kovu because she's grinning at him slyly. And also, Vitani has light purple paws and mouth. I wonder... Anyway, the person said at the Disney store that more Simba's Pride stuff wil "trickle" in over the next few monthes. She also said that Simba's Pride won't be on presale for a while, but when you pay, you get the stuff right away. I know everybuddy knows that, but I'm just talking away. I haven't spoken in a while. Also, on the frame, it has all the good characters. Does that mean that Vitani is good?
That's all.
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 4 - 14:41

Snowy

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On the note of "Fluffy's" name, I'm inclined to say that it is most certainly Kiara. I have the SP beanies, and they name her as Kiara. In the Mr. Magoo trailer, as mentioned earlier, she tells Kovu that her name is Kiara. And, also in the Mr. Magoo trailer, Pumbaa yells, "Hold on Kiara, old Pumbaa's coming!" I doubt that the name Shani will even be mentioned, as it was thought that Kiara may have a younger sister by that name, but there's no merchandise (and from what I can see, no place in the plot) to support this. I'd be very surprised if it did turn out to be Shani, considering all the evidence to the contrary.

Just my 2 cents.

Bye, and Hakuna Matata!

PS. Just a thought, I'm pretty sure that the "He Lives in You" used on the Mr. Magoo trailer was the one from RotPL and not TLKoB.


Jul 4 - 13:24

Amphriss

Location: Boston, MA
E-mail: Amphriss@AOL.com

Here I go again! I just looked at the Swahili Dictionary for the first time....Maybe some of you already know this but here are a few name translations:

Nuka: v. meaning to smell bad or stink
(a cub named stinky!!!)

Ahadi (reportadly the name of
Mufasa and Scar's Dad) N. meaning an agreement, a promise or a covenent

Zira: v. Hate , also to keep off (food) due to taboo, and also to drive away ants with firebrands

Kiara and Vitani have no direct translation although "Kiaraba" means Arabic......And the root word "Vita" means War.

Just more to mull over...


Jul 4 - 13:05

Amphriss

Location: Boston, MA
E-mail: Amphriss@AOL.com

Thanks on the TLKoB----you are right, I can't believe I couldn't figure THAT one out (late night I guess) "He Lives in you" on the Magoo trailer sounds just like the one from "Rythm of the Pridelands". I could be wrong of course.

As for "Fluffy's" real name I am 98% sure it is Kiara (Proof: all merchandise out so far calls her Kiara, On the Magoo preview:she tells Kovu in her sexiest voice "I'm Kiara").

I am as surprised as anyone----I thought for sure they would pick "Shani". (Sounds too much like Shawnee, maybe? Disney didn't want any confusion?) I never thought Aisha would be her real name for some reason...


Jul 4 - 12:32

Takita

Location: The Pridelands
E-mail: Dash@Connect-2.co.uk

LOOK, Just listen to me...WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK SIMBAS DAUGHTER IS CALLED KIARA? That was just a working name, along with 'Fluffy'. Her ACTUAL 100% Bona fide name is in fact 'Shani'. OK? SHANI SHANI SHANI SHANI! Oy! Jeez...Anyway its not open to debate OK.. Shani.
On a lighter note my web page will be up soon, look out for it! What is funny is that a few websites are devoted to "Kiara", Hehe! Just wait till they find out!


Jul 4 - 11:34

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail:

Amphriss,
"TLKoB" stands for "The Lion King On Broadway"...I'm surprised you didn't know that. =)

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 4 - 10:41

Christian (KH#1)

Location:
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

I guess it was only early in the morning for me but Beerit and I were probably the only ones awake. Hey everyone! I have a real cool idea. Why don't they make a Lion King ride at Disneyland, Walt Disney World, Disneyland Tokyo, Disneyland Paris, etc.? We should petition that.


Christian


Jul 4 - 01:35

Amphriss

Location: Boston, MA
E-mail: Amphriss@AOL.com

Happy 4th (again) from me... If anyone is interested the Hallmark website has the Simba's Pride 1998 Keepsake Ornament....It's Simba and Nala somewhat intertwined ("Can you feel..." etc etc.) ....Sorry, no Kiara and Kovu orn. from Hallmark, only Simba and Nala together (A nice ornament, but it looks like it could've been from TLK not SP)If anyone knows if Enesco or Kurt Adler is also doing SP liscenced products, please let me know....maybe they bought the liscence for the newer characters this year?

I think you can go to http//www.Hallmark.com and look up a search under "dreambook" ---Also, a cute Mulan/Mushu orn. set (just sawthe movie! better than Poca and Herc but lacking the epic feel of TLK.....seemed too short, too lighthearted. Impressed a bit anyways)

On a sad note, Hallmark, while only having one SP orn, has a whole category devoted to Pooh!
Please E-mail them (politely of course) and tell them what you think of that!!You can leave a message at their site!


Jul 4 - 01:09

Jenna

Location:
E-mail: snayle@net-2000.net

I know a lot of people here hate pooh, I like him, but I found this about him..check it out

http://www.heinzelman.com/pooh.htm


and to make this post LK related, SP looks like it will rule.


Jul 3 - 22:04

Amphriss

Location: Boston, MA
E-mail: Amphriss@AOL.com

Happy 4th Everyone....Well, someone was asking for the words and translations to "He lives in you".....I'm not sure what "TLKoB" stands for, but a version of "He Lives..." is on the Rythm of the Pridelands CD...
Here is the ROTPL version of "He Lives in You"
copied right out of the Cd booklet:

CHANT: Ingonyama nengw' enamabala
(here is a lion and a tiger)

Night
and the spirit of life
Calling

CHANT: Oh, oh, iyo Mamela

(Listen)

CHANT: Oh, oh, iyo Mamela

And a voice with the fear of a child
Answers

CHANT:Oh, oh, iyo Mamela
Oh, Mamela

(Oh, listen)

CHANT:Oh, oh, iyo

Ubukhosi bo khokho
we ndodana ye sizwe sonke

(Throne of the Ancestors
oh, son of the nation)

Wait
There's no moutain too great

Chant:Oh, oh, iyo

Hear the words and have faith

CHANT: Oh, oh, iyo
Have Faith

CHANT: Hela Hey Mamela
(hey listen)

CHORUS:
He lives in you
He lives in me
He watches over
Everything we see
Into the water
Into the Truth
In your reflection
He lives in you

CHANT: Ingonyama nengw' enamabala
(here is a lion and a tiger)
(here is a lion and a tiger)

(repeat 3rd verse)

(repeat chorus)

Hope this helps .... to clear up any confusion, words in parentheses are translations, and anything not in parentheses is sung whether in swahili or English.
Any other Rythm translations needed?

Busa lomhlaba
(Rule this land)
Busa ngo thando
(Rule with Love)
Busa Ngo xolo
Rule with peace)
Busa Simba iyo
(Rule Simba!)


Jul 3 - 20:38

Kiara

Location:
E-mail: DaMish@aol.com

I'm so excited about TLK2, SP. I sawa couple of previews and I can't get it out of my head. If there are any SP freaks out there, E-MAIL me and that's AN ORDER!! :O)


Jul 3 - 16:14

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

KH#1, we r in totally opposite sides of the world! if I dig a hole now, then I will:
A. get to u
B. have a terrible wrist problem by that time (;
it couldn't have been morning 4 both of us.

oh, wow.... he does sound like simba....
font size=4>I SAW THE PREVIEW!!!!!
it was cool. Kiara's voice dazzled me.... she sounded shy, but she looked like she was
coming on to Kovu... (poor Kovu didn't know what hit him...)
I think Disney changed Zira after they figured the incest thing. they wanted n explanation
why Kovu looks like scar, & not that he's his son. its like many breeds of dogs. they look
the same between every breed, & look nothing alike if u compare. but they're all dogs.
same with lions. I came up with this many months ago: there r 3 kinds of lions, red lions
(simba), black lions (scar) & brown lions (lions....). I use this all the time to tell between
them. even, in one of my fan fics, one of the lions is racial to another couse he's a black
lion. (no, there was no human though put into it. I don't mean human blacks as symbolic
meaning or anything. I just picked some lion, & when I imagined him, I saw him black
manned...).
sorry, Dara, u're a blabber mouth too... >hug<
no, I know KH#1 is a guy. I known all along. don't make a big deal, its just that in the "pull
yourself together!" scenes its always a guy. I just wanted something new... (:
just kidding, I made a little type 'o. never mind. I liked simba, does that make me a
guy??????????? WELL, DOES IT?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
ok, ok, I'm calm.......
I think Kiara is much better then nala. I'm a Kiara holic, u know? I'm also a Kovu holic & n
SP holic.
bout the TLKoB cd. I kinda sorta... borrowed it.... ):
the cub NALA pic was taken from Kubo's site, www.lionking.org/~kubo, that has zillions
of TLK clip art images that I never seen before! not anywhere! check it out! I recommend
it.
Dara, u hate beverly? I think it rocks. its not a fluffy beverly hills dumb drama show like it
used to be. one time, me & talia (some of u guys met her yesterday) sat & maned all the
things that happened to the poor folks on that show. "pregnancy, attempt murder,
miscarriage, car wrecks, rape attempts, drugs, alcohol, eating disorder, devorse,
theft..." & we went for hours! it was cool..... beverly rocks!
I like Blossom like I like pooh bear, though. (reminder: #STUFF THE POOH#)
my brother liked beverly but more he likes party of 5 couse he likes how they make life
look so bleak. odd, fella, that boy....
I think Kiara wasn't sad on PR couse simba told her not to go to the OL. (out lands) did
simba cry when mufasa told him "u must never go there, simba!". its kinda stupid. I think
Kiara was thinking 1 of 3 stuff:
1. what will be come of her when simba dies (he said so in the MM preview...)
2. thinking about Kovu & about how she cant see him.
3. thinking she doesn't want to be queen.

no, its just Mr. bean here. & I got everything, I'm not a fool. the only cool part was when
he sneezed on the picture & when he shaved his mouth?

sorry, Brian, I tried to keep the images small.
talking of images!!!!!!!!! check this baby out!
www.lionking.org/~ari/opening.jpg
I think if u liked the theater u'll loooooove this. its the night before the debut of SP, & all
the cast members r getting ready. its totally cool!

When he roared the pride lands silenced...


Jul 3 - 15:32

Kiara-holic #1

Location: Somewhere in CA
E-mail: iluvronco@hotmail.com

(No crazy HTML tags in this letter.) Dara, Beerit and I were the only ones up early in the morning so we were just talking about being the only ones talking for only a specific time period. If you go to the merchandise section in my site you can order Lion King CDs such as the Broadway from amazon.com and I think its only $11.99 or $12.99 or something. If you don't have a credit card you can still pay with a check. I do get a little tiny cut on the profit (like maybe $1) so if you don't want me to make any money from it you can go directly to amazon.com and do a search on it. Even though its not in my site (yet?) I just ordered Disney's Instrumental Impressions which has CYFTLT on it. My normal e-mail address seems to be temporarily disabled by my school over the holiday weekend so use my backup e-mail address given here instead.


Warm fuzzies to everyone,


Christian


Jul 3 - 12:56

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

Well excuse me, Beerit! What do you mean YOU and Kiara-holic do all the talking???
Ever seen MY posts for example? I can't say they're short.... And Shenzi has a lot to write and Krazy Kat and Alexander too! My parts come in bits. If I stayed away for a few days, you would be busy for hours to read my entry!! It's just that I don't sit behind the computer and Internet all night, that's all. I've also some others things to do.

mmmm..... hopefully the message got through now Kiara-holic about your gender. Maybe it's because we think about Kiara as a little lioness. She's cute and therefore maybe only women/girls would like here. You know, kinda like a cute kitty. But Kiara becomes an adult too, but we still don't know much about her in that state. Maybe she'll be as good, if not better, than Nala!
Nala was naughty when she was little, but when she grew older she became sorta serious. It seems to me Kiara will stay naughty. Maybe it's because of what Nala has been through. It must have been a hard time during the reign of Scar!! With the constant danger of those hyena's!

Nice pic Beerit!! Do you have more on your site tomorrow???? Can't wait to see your new improoved site. The song "he lives in you" which was played at the Magoo trailer was indeed from the TLKoB CD. How did you order this CD??? You don't live in the U.S. like me.

Oh let me tell you Shenzi... I HATE all teen sitcoms as you call them!! Bevery Hills 90210, Melrose place, Friends, Blossom, etc. Disgusting!
Why are people making series like THAT! I just watched Party of Five once to see and hear Neve Campbell. And then, I had nothing to do. It's not THAT bad but it's AGAIN about boys + girls and all that stuff! But you should watch it just to hear everyones voices.... they're really good. I don't need to see Party of Five again. In fact, I hardly watch any t.v. Most of the time I spend behind the computer or with friends.
I do hate Pooh, so I'm not compaining. But I have no problems with Tigger and Eeyore. (ssst, in fact, I have Eeyore and my sister has Tigger!
But..... just because it were such wonderful, beautifull plushies! Wish they had TLK/SP plushies like that! I would have buyed that instead!)

Beerit, I also thought Kovu sounded like Simba when he says: "I'll avenge Scar."
Kiara on top of Pride Rock maybe is sad or dissapointed. Maybe Simba has just told her not to go to the Outlands, like Mufasa told him not to go to the Graveyard.

Or maybe she was told by Simba never EVER to go back again to the Outlands (after his confrontation with Zira while looking for Kiara)
She looks over the Pride Lands towards the Outlands hoping to see her Kovu again ever.
mmmmm, yeah that's sounds beautiful...

Oh I LOVE mr. Bean! You must have not understood the half of it, Beerit. He was great!!! I like his short stories on tv. more. Maybe it's just a little too much mr. Bean on the big screen?
He's so funny and clumsey. Maybe you didn't know him that well before you watched 'Bean, the movie.' I don't know if they'll show that in Israel? I think it would be called: 'mr. Bean is dying of laughter.' (*kidding)

Well, gotta go now! Have some other stuff to do! LOL! See Beerit? I did do all the talking now!

Bye!!

Dara
#He lives in you!#


Jul 3 - 12:16

shenzi

Location: long island
E-mail:

now everyones complaining about us complaining about pooh ? lighten up. we know its a tlk site, we are only kidding around even if we really do hate pooh. beerit, i think tlk is just about a lion whoe becomes king. i like your pic of baby nala or is that baby kiara. kovu' zen is cool. krazy kat, i think brian should put your calypso chronicals on this site. who cares if the story is not tlk related. it is about lions and sounded really interesting and different. thats why i liked the all the stories about aiheu. they were different. i hope he changes his mind. i liked your sarabi story. he lives in you was one of the best songs on the tlk on broadway sound track. hakuna Matata. Hate the pooh. Busa Kovu, kiara and simba !!!!


Jul 3 - 11:25

Kovu

Location: The Graveyard/Pridelands
E-mail: kovu@iname.com

TELL ME THIS:


What's with banning Pooh Bear? I thought this was a Simba's Pride rumor mill.

Anyway, about Kovu being Scar's son... that's not cleared up. Zira looks like Scar, so that means that she could have a mated to another lion but have Kovu look like her. Anyway, I guess Zira must be related to Ahadi in some way, also.

KOVU PAGE COMING SOON


Jul 3 - 10:22

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

Guys:

Please do not include pictures in your posts! This page gets too large too fast for people to be able to load it quickly even without having to load images, especially images that have to be served from other websites.

Thanks...


Jul 3 - 10:05

Lioness

Location:
E-mail:

thanx


Jul 3 - 09:55

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail:

Lioness,
the TLKoB CD does have the words and translations. DISNEY STORE?! Never buy CDs from the Disney Store! Do you have a BJ's Wholesale Club or a Best Buy or even a Circuit City near you? You can get it for 14.95 or less in most of those places.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 3 - 09:43

Beerit

Location:
E-mail:

I left a little surprise 4 u guys at KH#1.
show 'em!!!

Fatshe laso lea halalela


Jul 3 - 09:38

Lioness again

Location:
E-mail:

one more thing, anybody who has the TLKoB cd, does it come with the words to the songs? (and is it also translated if any of them are in swahili) I really want to get it, so I'm going to try to drag my mom to the mall today just to pick it up. At the Disney store its 20 bucks! Anybody know where i can get it for a cheaper price? If so, pleaz tell me!!


Jul 3 - 08:51

Lioness

Location:
E-mail:

did anybody else notice, it the mr magoo trailer, when mufasa says "we are one" at the end, you see a black speck (zazu) flying towards the sun and disapear?
beerit-
kiara and kovu might sing about love and how they cant be together. It seems like the kind of thing thing that would happen :P Just a thought.
well nothing here, so hakuna matata!


Jul 3 - 08:46

Beerit (surprise)
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Vicky P, u r one poor kid. I miss the rumor mill 4 3 days & its kaos! uph......
well, I do agree KH#1 & I seem to be the only ones doing all the talking.... (;
hey, I cant wait to hear Kovu & Kiara sing. but not some mooshy love song, I hate thoes.... /:<
I never liked CUFTLT, thoe the jass version really got me going! I prefer this land & under the stars. but the music from TLKoB is really something!

"Fatshe laso lea halalela" - (the land of our ancestors is holy) Shadowland, TLKoB

Fatshe laso lea halalela sounds like a cool new slogan, like busa simba or we are one. hmm... >shrug<

Nala holics, pay atention!

Baby nala!


Jul 3 - 08:11

Vicky P
student
Location: Greece
E-mail:

At last !!!! After a whole month I have been able to visit the rumor mill again and I spent the whole afternoon yesterday reading everything that has been posted here the last five weeks.First of all, to Brian, Beerit, Neema, Kiara-holic#1 and all other maintainers of S.P. sites, congratulations on your pages! I 've visited all of them and they are all very good. I saw the pictures on Brian's page and I must admit that Zira's look took me aback.I don't mean that she is ugly; still they could have made her more good looking. The Evil Queen from Snow White and Maleficent are villainesses but they are good-looking, aren't they? Anyway, even though she is not as beautiful as Nala, Sarabi and Sarafina, she still looks an OK character.But I doubt that she will be a great villainess just like Scar, who is one of the best villains Disney has ever created.Kovu is a really cute cub.Do you remember a time when people thought that Kovu was a bloodthirsty lion who wanted to get revenge for Scar's death by seducing Kiara, killing Simba and becoming king?Now we have a completely different Kovu who lives with the evil Zira who maybe or may not be his mother and the other lions from Scar's pride.He looks very innocent and rather shy and I don't think that he knew that he was supposed to be raised to get revenge for Scar's death before he meets Kiara. I believe that Zira started training him after he met Kiara.So when he grew up, Scar's pride returned to claim the Pridelands where he will meet Kiara again who is now an adult like him and then he might even join Simba's pride and confront Zira ( imagine the scene if Zira is his mother!).Yet I don't see why people say that he looks like Scar.His skin is dark like his but I think that he bears a strong resemblance to Simba just like some of you already said. As far as Nuka and Vitani are concerned I agree that they are Zira's offsiders (or should I say henchmen?). The plot sounds like a combination of LK and Poca due to the fact that Kiara goes to the Outlands where she meets Kovu and although this was a forbidden place and Simba comes to save her and due to the fact that " their love must bring two prides together".The latest news about the cast that have been posted here are that Andy Wylie is doing Young Kovu's voice , Suzanne Pleshette is doing the speaking voice for Zira and Kathleen Turner her singing voice.Kimberly Scott is said to be Adult Kiara's singing voice but I really don't think so. I heard that Peter Lonsdale is also working on S.P. as supervising film editor. And please stop making fun with Pooh and his friends. I love Disney and I feel offended when people mock Disney characters. If you hate him that much IGNORE him. This site is not for " KILL THE POOH" discussions and writing messages against him is a waste of space IMO. Please try to forget all about him and return to this site's subjact : S.P. I don't like Pooh very much either but he and his friends are OK characters. ( I don't mean any insult to those who hate him because everyone has the right to have his own opinion). I won't be here for many weeks so bye for now.


Jul 3 - 06:26

Kiara-holic #1

Location: Limbo Probably
E-mail: iluvronco@hotmail.com

Ahh . . . remember those good old days when the rumor mill was a big interactive session between Beerit and Kiara-holic #1? Well, it looks like its happening again. We're probably the only two people awake on the whole darn planet right now. I just hope Brian takes care of my HTML boo boo soon, unless of course everyone likes to read their rumor mill entries centered.


KH#1

WeR1

busa simba

busa kiara


Jul 3 - 04:54

Beerit

Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

KH#1, chill, man, I was'nt accusing u. I'm happy u liked my pic, I was'nt trying to corner u! use it whenever u like, I dont care. I dont care if u even write my name! the air is quite clear on my part...k? (:

we are one

p.s. I have some pribs loading stuff, so dont come in it 4 a few hours.

oh, almost 4got
#CHOAK THE POOH WITH HIS OWN UGLY SHIRT#
#SELL THE POOH TO BEAR EATING CANNIBALS#
#MAKE THE POOH SIT IN FRONT OF A CONTINUOUSLY REWINDING TAPE OF POCAHONTAS# (that's cruel...)

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Jul 3 - 04:40

Kiara-holic #1
Gender: Male
Location: Orange County
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Clearing the Air




Just going to jump in here and clear the air on a couple things. You see, Beerit e-mailed this picture a while back that I thought was really cool. I went to her two sites and never found it there so I thought that she might have made it for me but was never really sure. (Of course it did feature Kiara and Beerit and made some cool buttons for me before, too.) Now its in my movie/theater section and not on the front page anymore so its not like I'm trying promote my site with a picture someone e-mailed to me just to look at. Well, enough on that. I'm trying to practice proper netiquette because it can really be a jungle out there. Also: Yes, my Kiara site was, is, and will remain a Kiara-only site (and the best one) and if there had already been one in existence I probably never would have created mine. I work on it a lot and am constantly improving it to keep it up-to-date and to continually work towards a very polished, professional, yet fun look. Okay, enough on that (I guess). A good Matthew Broderick movie to watch is "Out on a Limb." Maybe I should come up with a new code name. Of course, most Nalaholics are guys, so I thought people would realize a Kiaraholic would probably be a guy, too. Its just some thing I came up with at 4:45 in the morning one fateful day a little over a month ago.


Christian M. Ziebarth aka Kiara-holic #1????


WE ARE ONE!!!


Kiara's Sahifa


Jul 3 - 04:04

Beerit

Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

oh, I'm the only one that has'nt seen the preview yet.... peachy.....
well, 40% downloaded. tonight there is gonna be some serious rumble going on in my site......
new fan art, fan fic, misc pics, SCREEN GRABS (of course), sounds (if I can get the damn sound card to work!!!), & info!!!!
be there or be.... somewhere!
check my page out tomorrow. I have 12 new fan art's too!!!!!!
unfortunatly, I have some coments on the images I've seen so far, but since I halvent seen the preview yet, I'm afraid to say something obvious like: I think that the parts when Simba is taking Kiara & Zira is taking Kovu in they're mouths, is when simba & zira first meet, confront & then take off angrily with their kids, or something u all know like that....
hmmm... say, m I the only one that noticed that when Simba & Zira r arguing, u see that they r at the same place that u see Kiara & Kovu when Kiara is laughing on the floor.... maybe they went looking 4 they're kids & found n un pleasent surprise... sounds way too much like JFT's fan fic..... (which I recomend u to read & fast!)

I'm planning on remodelling the whole site.... make it lighter. light sites look like they r bigger. like KH#1's site, which is smaller then mine's (no ofense! u have just a Kiara site!) buyt it gives the expression that its larger....

Kovu's mane is brown. definatly brown. he has the face of scar, & the hair line of simba.... only he does'nt have thoes 2 splittings off of the middle of his head. he has this bowl cut, kinda like Vitani, only 4 a guy.... hmm... well, just reminding a point.....
Krazy Kat, u r one weird girl with that fan fic.... I LOVED IT!!!!!!!!!!!! it ruled!!!!
it reminded me of the heart breaking story of the texas slashers from pooh's forest..... (tehe)

I have a q 4 u. does The Lion King mean the king who is a lion, or does it mean, the king on all lions. couse its more simple if TLK was the king who is a lion, but to make sure people get what a great king he was, then he was'nt just a king on beasts, he was king of the kings. what do u think? m I mad or m I mad?? this q is bugging me ever since I saw TLK. eeeeerg!!!!!!! answer me!

Dara, I loved he lived in u too. is it just from the TLKoB or is it a... umm... remix (?)?
I liked naked gun too. but here in israel we name our movies so badly its to chouk. the series is called "the gun is dying of laughter" (it sounds a little bit better in hebrew) & Mr. Magoo is called "the millioner is dying of laughter". what's with these guys???? lay off the "is dying of laughter" stuff!!!! it aint working!!!!!!!
ok, I'm cool, I'm cool.......
by the way, isn't it kinda icky knowing some dead king lives in u?..... (;
Kiara-holic #1, what's with u & that pic???? take it, I dont care! I wanted it 4 all sites, but u seem to be obssessed with it! get a grip, women!
(slaping Kiara-holic #1)#pow# #pow#
hehe
Lioness, I had one of my coolest remarks on your "everybody ignore Lioness on the chat room day" message, but I'm afraid it is no good to put it here..... he... he...... >wink<..... >wink<.....
Amphriss, I think the Kiara on pride rock is sad too. but she is eather a cub ar a teen. she does'nt look like n adult to me there. I think she's upset couse Simba seperated her from Kovu that day, & she's poundring the meaning on eccistance..... or something..... (:
Ducky, maybe they'll get the guy that did Zazu's voice on the TLKoB to do his voice. he was really good. & besides, who cares about Zazu?????
Krazy Kat, u like Mr Bean?????????
I hate him with all of my heart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I went out of his movie with a bad feeling in my throat! (no, it were'nt the popcorns...) (:
sorry, dont mean to offend u, I just really hate him.
Kiara looked absolutly beautifull in the MM trailer. as a cub & as n adult! she didnt look that good in the may 10th trailer & I kinda feared 4 the beautifullness of simba's line, but she looks amazingly beautiful!!!!!!!

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ok.....
well, I think were loosing it.... mathew brodrick sounds like the guy from step by step?????
give me a break! its like when people thought WR1 was'nt sung by MB.
Kovu did have a little mane in the part when Kiara roars at the birds at least. I wonder how Disney would make the part about the cubs grownig up? u know, like simba did. that part on the log always sends shivers down my spine! I hope they make it something good!
oh, man, I'm too tired to read all of this. besides, I already put in my 7 pennies or whatever...

#OH, MAN, ITS THE POOH!#
#**** THE POOH# (its not what your thinking....)
#A FEW WITH THE POOH#

we are one (but not with the pooh)

p.s. a few is a delicate way to say.... oh, never mind.....
p.s.s. sorry 4 the type oes, I didnt have time to double check them.
p.s.s.s. my ICQ number, to whum it may concirne:
14391779
p.s.s.s.s. the only reason I use so many p.s.'s is couse if u turn the letters u get.... u guessed it!


Jul 2 - 20:16

Krazy Kat

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Shenzi,
I wrote The Calypso Chronicles and they were supposed to be here on Brian's site, but he said they didn't have enough to do w/ TLK. My other story "Sarabi's Quest" is in the text files archive but I must admit; it stinks. My next one, "Sarafina's Mate" is going to be much better, let me assure you.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 2 - 20:12

Jenna

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E-mail: snayle@net-2000.net

TO SHENZI~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

actually, you could go to www.hotmail.com and get a free e-mail there, You can check it anywhere as long as you have internet. Take a look at ti.


Jul 2 - 19:28

shenzi

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i forgot who wrote The Calypso Chronicals, but i thought that person said they were on ryans lion. i was just there and i didn't see them. was i mistaken ?


Jul 2 - 17:31

shenzi

Location: long island
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Arctus, Bravo ! i loved your pic of piglet commiting suicide. Jenna, i hope ryan puts your story on his site soon. i don't have e-mail so you can't e-mail your story to me untill my dad gets me aol. i get on the net through the libraries computer, but i don't think i can send or receive e-mail. i should find out. thanx anyway. Dara, i've never seen party of five before. maybe its because i don't usually go for popular teen sitcoms, althouh i do like Buffy the vampire slayer. i hated 90210 with a passion and melrose place. The show Friends annoys me as much as pooh does. it is a seinfeld wannabe and the characters act dippy. was Party of 5 good ? maybe i'll watch it sometime. i thought neve cambell was good in scream and scream 2. i could imagine her as Kiara but i heard she was going to play luke and leia's mom in the upcomming star wars movie. sorry neve fans, but i can't imagine her as leia and luke's mom. my best friend ( who loves star wars like we all love tlk ), was pissed about the news that neve cambell might be in a star wars movie. she hates neve. Krazy Kat, i think simba should eat owl next. my hyena stomachs on the grrrrrrowl for some owl. CHOW DOWN everyone ! KILL THE POOH. HATE THE POOH, etc. BUSA SIMBA BUSA KIARA !!!


Jul 2 - 17:21

Dara

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Oh just one more thing....

Jenna, Ryan is pretty lazy in putting pics and stories to his wedsite lately. I guess you'll have to wait another loooong time! Hope he'll submit the latest pics and stories (yours of course too!) to his site for he has one of the greatest TLK websites!!!

Bye again!

Dara


Jul 2 - 12:45

Dara

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sooooo, I'm cooled down a bit after hearing SP will only be released in the states and canada... Kese is probably right, the movie will be released a few moths later (BUT THAT'S STILL TOO LATE!!...)

Oh, for you guys wondering if the Black Cauldron is good or not... I'll tell you. No.
I'm surprised Disney released this movie earlier in Europe. I waited for this movie for more than 10 years by now! I missed it when it was in the theatres. My friend didn't have any time to go and see it. I was still young at that time so I was not allowed to see it on my own. Since then, I waited to see it come on video and it just never came! Till now.... I was soooooo excited to see The BC!!! I bougt it (months ago by now), I choose a good evening to watch it and...... I was VERY dissapointed!! There's no story line, no real characters, that fluffy dog-like creature is very annoying!!! I bought it, but I saw it only once. The only fun part in it is (like someone else said before) when one of the characters (ohhhh, I forgot his name but he's my favorite) is squashed between a witch her breasts!
Oh, and the walking skeletons and the great Horned King are kinda scary. I mean, here, there was a warning on the tape: "parents should watch this movie along with their children"
Are you frightend by now????
I hope in the U.S. there'll be a previeuw of SP!! Here there wasn't.

O.k. o.k. the cover of SP isn't that bad... if it weren't for Simba's nose! The cover is soooo much better than the TLK tape!! Here in Europe it shows rafiki holding up a very dumb looking Simba on top of pride rock and Scar who's watching down below with sneaky eyes. I don't like any cover of Disney's movies. They're so dumb in comparision with the movie itself. If you don't know what Disney is (I doubt it, ah well....) I wouldn't buy the tapes because of their ugly covers!!

Arctus, nice pics!! Thanks Krazy Kat for the annihilation of Christopher Robin! Now HE'S annoying!!!

By the way Shenzi, I saw "Party of Five" for the first time last night. It wasn't stupid at all.
Not nice, but hey, Neve Campbell was in it and I needed to know who she is! I thought all voices of the actors in Party of Five would fit perfectly in SP if you're telling me! Wow, especially that Claudia type!! She's great!! I first thought she did the voice of little Kiara! She has that naughty, selfwilled voice of Kiara!! She's cool! But the I remembered Neve Campbell was the girl to voice adult Kiara... pity...

mmmm, Kiara-holic, I have to admit.... I also thought you were a girl at first. But that was only for a very short time. I guess it's the name "kiara-holic". By the way, I'm a female..... prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
But I guess everbody noticed that (I hope....)

Well... that's it for now!
Hopefully there'll be more SP trailers to come!!

Hakuna Matata!!

Dara


Jul 2 - 12:36

Nala

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E-mail: Nala413@hotmail.com

Hello everybody! I'm back and have been very busy with the TLK digest! Thanks again Brian! Kara, I HAVE not been ignoring you. By the time I made it back to the Rumor Mill and read what you had written me, I got taken off the computer because my time was up (happens at the library all the time). I'm sorry that you don't have e-mail, we can just communicate through this, okay?

To everyone else: You can see the new cover for simba's pride at:
http://www.disney.com/DisneyVideos/ComingAttractions/lionking2.html

I can't say that it's that great, and we have had some fun poking at it.

I hope that you all are well, and healthy (slight case of food poisoning at this end) but...I'm getting yelled at soo I have to go! Take care and more lata.

(I hope that you enjoy this SPAM)


Jul 2 - 07:47

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

TikiKoyote,
I'm glad that you like to come and give us nice TLK/SP gossip and I appreciate it, but I think you're a little late w/ the SP beanies. I've had my Kiara and Kovu for a little over 3 weeks now...maybe you mean the rest of the cast coming any week now?? I hope so!

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 2 - 06:50

TikiKoyote
TLK/SP FAN
Location: Texas
E-mail: rockettwlf@aol.com

Hey guys! I havn't been on for a while, but I have a juicy bit of info for all of you out there! Do you guys remember way back when TLK just came out and for a while they sold LionKing beanie babies? Well...the Simba's Pride beanie baby collection just hit Cananda! Korvu and Kiara are the first two avaliable, but others of the cast are soon to follow. A friend and I were lucky to find these two treasures! They will be avaliable in the USA any week now! Good luck collectors!

PS-CONGRADS for the team of the Lion King Broadway production! You did fab in the Tony awards! You deserve it!

~*Rachel
The QUEEN of LionKing and Simba's Pride Gossip!


Jul 1 - 19:03

Lioness

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oops, heh heh. Sorry Kiara-holic #1!! My mistake.


Jul 1 - 17:22

Kiara Fan, Kara once again

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Alexander,
The sing along went on sale yesterday. You can go to Today@Disney to confirm it. I haven't seen it yet, because my Blockbusters is not on top of their movies. I don't know how they stay in business. Anyway, if anyone sees it, please tell us about it. I'll try again, but they probably won't have it. I wonder if Simba's Pride will be the first Disney animated sequal to be rated something other than G. I don't know....
Kara (Kiara)
We Are One


Jul 1 - 17:19

Alexander

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Are you guys sure the Mulan sing along video is already out? I seem to remember reading that it was debuting July 24th. I was at Target today and they did not have it in (not that this means anything). If someone finds it, tell us if the We Are One segment is different than the ABC one.


Jul 1 - 14:32

Kiara-holic #1

Location: Fountain Valley
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Ouch! One time I thought that Beerit thought I was a girl but was wrong but now it looks like Lioness thinks that. Sorry everyone but my gender is: Male. Oh well, I guess its one of those internet misunderstandings that can arise if people only see a code name I made up on the spur of the moment. Anyway, I was glad to provide the information in my merchandise section on how to pre-order Simba's Pride from the Disney Catalog. The info was actually e-mailed to me by Kristin Cheddar who may have posted it here as well. Just thought I might add that since we've never seen Disney re-release any of its direct-to-video movies it might be a good idea to get more than one copy of SP and save it and preserve it good. It might even be wise to buy it on DVD even if you don't have a DVD player now because DVD's last longer and may eventually even replace videotapes. Hopefully TLK/SP will get its own catalog just like Pooh has one.


Christian Michael Ziebarth aka Kiara-holic #1


Check out all the new stuff at the ever improving Kiara's Sahifa.


Jul 1 - 12:44

Kiara-holic #1

Location: Fountain Valley
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Ouch! One time I thought that Beerit thought I was a girl but was wrong but now it looks like Lioness thinks that. Sorry everyone but my gender is: Male. Oh well, I guess its one of those internet misunderstandings that can arise if people only see a code name I made up on the spur of the moment. Anyway, I was glad to provide the information in my merchandise section on how to pre-order Simba's Pride from the Disney Catalog. the info was actually e-mailed to me by Kristin Cheddar who may have posted it here as well. Just thought I might add that since we've never seen Disney re-release any of its direct-to-video movies it might be a good idea to get more than one copy of SP and save it and preserve it good. It might even be wise to buy it on DVD even if you don't have a DVD player now because DVD's last longer and may eventually even replace videotapes. Hopefully TLK/SP will get its own catalog just like Pooh has one.


Christian Michael Ziebarth aka Kiara-holic #1


Check out all the new stuff at the constantly improving

Kiara's Sahifa

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Jul 1 - 12:41

Kese

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E-mail: sollarus@erols.com

Never fear guys, come August-September Pooh will make way for Simba's Pride and TLK stuff. It's only July and we already have a few plushies and beanies, you think Disney is going to hold back when their hottest property releases another film?
About Pooh: Unfortunately people seem to love Pooh. I'm not sure why but....


Jul 1 - 12:23

Krazy Kat

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Alexander,
your cats behavior seems very lion-like to me. I do believe in a pride the lionesses hunt, bring back the kill, the male eats first, then the females, then the cubs (obviously because the eat the least) and I have not seen many cats that do this. Cats are very unpredictable creatures and maybe that's just some instinct that came out in her.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 1 - 11:09

Alexander

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No, there is not going to be a new Lion King TV series. I e-mailed Tad Stones about that a while ago, and posted that info somewhere on this rumor mill. I'm very glad there isn't a new TV series coming. I haven't heard about another TLK movie besides "Simba's Pride" but I guess you never know, huh? They had 3 "Aladdins" so I guess a third TLK isn't out of the question.

I have a non-Disney question to ask:

OK, we have a cat who is reminding me more and more of Zira every day. She is old: about 9 years old, and has a notch on her ear like Zira! She's black, though. Anyhow, she's pretty wild and always outside and did something today that was very lion-ish.

You see, we also have her son, who is 8, and like a male lion he never hunts but his old mom ALWAYS hunts, leaving us rabbits, mice, and a bat on our doorstep.

Today the mom brought home a (dead) rabbit, and she called for her son, who was inside. We let him out, and he started eating the rabbit and the mom sat there and watched! Then after he was done she started eating. She ate everything except one part that I won't discuss as I don't want to really gross you out.

I was sad that she caught a rabbit, but at least they ate it and did not just kill it. Anyhow, my question: Isn't this similar to how a pride of lions works? Is this unusual because they are domestic cats? Or is this just a coincidence? I've never seen this happen before. I'm sorry if this grossed anyone out. I was much more disgusted because I had to clean up everything!!!


Jul 1 - 10:49

elyse

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ok, i think we've all lost it!!!!!! piglet committing suicide???!!!??? what's this world coming too?
@ @

\_/ ~~elyse


Jul 1 - 10:27

Arctus
BearPaw Productions
Location: Jax, FL
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org

Oh, dear, oh bother.. did anyone see the headlines today? It appears as though Piglet was broken to the point of being suicidal by all the slandering of his fellow star, Pooh, and has taken his own life...

Here's the picture in the paper:



Apparently, he shot himself point-blank range... It looks like Christopher Robbins is losing all of his friends... :)

Arctus


Jul 1 - 10:22

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: Krzykatmer@aol.com

Vitani,
There is already a Lion King TV series, called Timon and Pumbaa's Wild Adventures. Maybe you mean a series w/ Simba, Kiara, Kovu, etc? I sure hope not! I havent heard of this other TLK movie, "Simba" as you say it's called...I hope they don't make TLK into a trilogy like they did with Aladdin. A sequel's okay, but let's not get out of control...

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 1 - 10:12

Vitani

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Hi! I just have a few questions. Is there going to be a Lion King TV series? And also, a while ago, somebody on the Rumor Mill said that there is going to be another TLK movie (other than Simba's Pride), and that it was going to be called 'Simba' and use the music from Rhythms of the Pridelands. Is that really true?

Thanx,
Vitani


Jul 1 - 09:58

elyse

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good morning! i've been thinking. maybe there isn't any new tlk stuff @ the disney stores because they're trying to get rid of all the old tlk merchandise to make room for the new sp merchandise.as far as the pooh stuff goes, i have no clue. i mean he has his own catalog!! what's up with that?? i just don't get it i don't know anyone that actually likes pooh, everyone i've heard talk about him thinks he's retarded. i think we need to do a letter writing campaign or something to get rid of that stupid bear!!
that's all for now.
~~elyse


Jul 1 - 08:48

Lioness again

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Neema-
I seriously dont think that the Outlands is the elephant graveyard. Simba mustve banished the lionesses loyal to Scar out of the Pridelands, beyond his pride's territory, so he wouldnt have to deal with them. I guess thats why its called the Outlands, hmm? :)


Jul 1 - 08:32

Lioness

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Kiara Fan-
No. You have to wait until you get the movie before you get the goodies.
Kese-
Actually, I wouldnt mind having a flood of SP merchandise :)
Anybody else who cares to listen-
Oh man! I just came back from MJ designes, and there was only 1 TLK thing. But guess what, there was MILLIONS of Pooh stuff! I mean, this guy is flooding the stores! Everywhere I look theres something of Pooh. I think I'm getting sick. Whered all the TLK stuff go?!


Jul 1 - 08:24

Kese

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E-mail: sollarus@erols.com

You get the premiums with the preorder on the date the video is released, saem as when TLK cam to video(yeesh, I remember how packed the store was with TLK merchandise on that day:) Suncoast is most likely giving out a goodie with their preorder as well(It was a litho with TLK)
If Disney is going to promote this one like they do their theatrical features(and it seems like they are)expect a flood of merchandise at the end of August


Jul 1 - 07:03

Kiara Fan

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Lioness-
Did you receive the lithograph and hand puppet, or do you have to wait til you get the movie.
Just Wonderin'
Kiara Fan


Jul 1 - 06:44

Lioness again

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oops, I forgot one thing. It might not come early. The person on the phone said it'll be there at the end of October. I asked for a date and she said AROUND October 27. Oooh, I hope it comes earlier!!


Jul 1 - 05:46

Lioness

Location: Virginia
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I just ordered SP from the Disney store!!! Thanx to Kiara-holic #1, it's on her site in the merchandise section, I was able to call!! They're giving either a Pumbaa or Kiara handpuppet (your choice) along with a lithograph. (I got Kiara) But beware of the price because you also have to pay for shipping & handeling. (also the Disney Store is expensive) It costed my mom $29.20! I say that it costs her becuse I'm getting it as a late birthday present :) (its Ocober 15) Well, i guess I just thought I'd share that with everyone. :P


Jul 1 - 05:43

Alexander

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I'd love to order the SP book from www.borders.com, but I was thinking: it will probably take 4 weeks to get sent to me, and by that time (August) the book might be in stores everywhere!!

If someone orders it though, it would be great if they posted the story and pictures on this site (HINT HINT)!


Jun 30 - 19:29

Jenna

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TO SHENZI~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I did submit it to Ryans website, he hasn't put it up yet. If you want, I'll E-mail it to you.


Jun 30 - 18:49

krazy Kat

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Alexander, I don't remember much of The Black Cauldron since i was only two years old when it came out. I looked at The Black Cauldron in Disney's coming attractions section, and at the bottom it still says "Rated PG" (Note: SP is not yet rated but i'm thinking G)
I read the book series, the first being "The Book Of Three" then "The Black Cauldron" then "Taran Wanderer" then "The Castle Of Llyr" then finally "The High King". I thought the books were great stories and i think Lloyd Alexander was a great author. I'm sure the Disney version of the black cauldron is okay (It seems to me like it's the whole series crunched into one movie) but I'm sure it doesnt add up to the standards of the books.

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 30 - 18:37

Kiara Fan, Kara again

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I was searching the net, and I found you can order a Simba's Pride book at Borders website. It's available! It takes 2 to 4 weeks to get here and it costs 7.99. Just go to www.borders.com and search for Simba's Pride, and you will be there. Also, I found out that there will be a Simba's Pride sing along. It's not to buy yet, but I saw it for presale, 13.00 somewhere,...I don't know.
Anyway, that's it, has anyone seen the Mulan thing yet, I would go rent it, but I can't drive. Oh, well....
Kara (Kiara)
We Are One


Jun 30 - 18:36

JFT

Location: Houston TX
E-mail: Taylor6@Ix.NetCom.Com

Yes, I have the same problem Lioness. But it's upagain now. Hopefull for a good long time.


Jun 30 - 18:18

Alexander

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Shenzi, I saw "The Black Cauldron" when it came out (I was in elementary school) and wasn't really impressed with it. The animation was OK, but the thing that is most important for ANY movie--animated or live action---was great storytelling and great characters. I didn't think Black Cauldron was bad, but I didn't really want to see it a second time.

Interestingly, "The Gummi Bears" came out on TV in Fall 1985, just after "The Black Cauldron" came out, and there are some striking similarities between these two Disney products. Taran (from BC) looks very similar to Gummi Bears' Cavin, and Creeper (from BC) is very much like Toadwart. Also, both are set in a fantasy world of medevil dragons and other critters.

Back in 1985, Disney did not do much marketing for its animated features (there were no Happy Meals and I only remember seeing a couple plush toys) so I have to believe that if it came out today that it might have pulled in a little more money. It was also rated PG back then (I think it will be G when it comes to video) and maybe that rating frightened off some people. There wasn't anything really objectionable in the film, except for some scary walking skeletons and a frog getting caught between a witch's big breasts (similar gags can be found on Tiny Toon Adventures and Animaniacs these days!)

Sorry to go totally off topic here, but I think it is worth at least renting----you can relive a little Disney history.


Jun 30 - 17:35

krazy kat

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Thanks for the praise Shenzi! I am not going to let Simba kill Tigger or Eeyore. They're okay. I can handle them. I think Owl comes next....

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 30 - 17:32

shenzi

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anouther excellent story krazy kat. i laughed, i cried, um no, just laughed !


Jun 30 - 17:19

shenzi

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Hakuna Matata. Dara, i agree some american sitcoms like growing pains, whoes the boss, and full house are stupid and pointless.i'm not into family sitcoms like that though. but i think ally Mcbeal, seinfeld, and frasier are funny and witty. how is that Mr. Bean movie ? i'm not a bean fan, but the movie looks interesting. Arctus, i love your pic of pooh. lol. Jenna, i would love to read your tlk 2 story. why don't you send it to Ryans's lion ? then we can all read it. Krazy Kat, 3 cheers for simba ! now i won't have to hunt for days, i can live on left overs. thanx. whoes going next the rabbit or the owl ? don't kill the donkey. i think he is depressed because pooh drags him on all those dumb adventures.i rented mr.magoo just to see the sp preview. i only saw half of the magoo thing. i can't finish watching it. its boring and i think it sux. but i loved the sp preview. kovu did sound sorta like simba when zira asked him what his destiny was. the animation in the poco sequel looks cartoony and it doesn't sound all that great. it looks okay, better than the return of jafar, but not that good. disney got the entire story mixed up. john rolf was a farmer, not an english diplomat, right ? but i guess it would be stupid if disney made poco marry a common farmer huh ? loos like sp will be the first good disney sequel. that black couldren thing sounds stupid. no wonder it bombed in theaters. has anyone ever saw it ? what didya think of it ? i hope the comming of sp whipes out the pooh popularity thing. does anyone know how pooh became so popular ? all i remember is one day micky and minnie were on top and then the stores started to sell multitudes of pooh crap ( sorry brian ) and then the disney store was taken over by pooh and his frineds. pooh should be driven into the elephant graveyard forever. oh well, poohs been around a while. nothing can stay that popular for this long, can it ? i hope pooh takes a hike soon..... gotta leave. WE ARE ONE! BUSA SIMBA ! HUNT THE POOH ! DISFIGURE THE POOH ! RID THE GOOD WORLD OF ALL THATS POOH !!!!


Jun 30 - 17:16

Krazy Kat

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Artcus, where did you get that Pooh pic? I love it!!!! oh, well, here it is, by request: dun dun dun dunnnn.....

SIMBAS BREAKFAST
Simba was walking along with Kiara one day, showing her The Pridelands she would one day be queen of, along with her chosen king. Kiara was unfamiliar with most scents and didn't notice this new smell; but Simba's keen nose picked it up and he stopped dead in his tracks.

He turned and looked in all directions. Nothing. Wait! What was that yellow thing? The grass still swayed from being disrupted by the creature and Simba bounded after it, Kiara following.

Simba stopped abruptly, Kiara hitting him dead on. (SMACK) "Ouch, dad! Geez, warn me next time," she complained, rubbing her head.

"Shhh," answered Simba. He crouched low and pushed Kiara down with him. "See that? That's your breakfast. you wanna help me catch it?"

"Aw, dad, it's so small..."

"Come on then," said simba, ignoring her. Kiara sighed, and being the good cub she was, followed him. As the lion got closer, he realized the prey as a rabbit- a yellow rabbit- standing on two legs! What was he doing? Simba squinted. He was near a tree trunk, about to sit down. Wait- what was he doing? Cleaning it?

"He must have some sort of a mental disorder," whispered Simba.

"Let's kill it!" said Kiara excitedly.

"Kiara, you're not supposed to get excited about killing things."

"Oh, sorry." she cleared her throat. "Aw, dad, do we have to kill it? It's sooo little..."

"Yes."

"Oh goo- I mean, aw, man.."

Simba pounced on the rabbit so hard he almost drove it into the ground. "Confoundit you stupid lion! You went and made everything dirty again. Just look at this grass! Who takes care of this?" shouted Rabbit.

Kiara growled. "Dad, I'm sick of listening to him. Can't you make him shutup?"

"Sure, honey," answered Simba. Simba bared his teeh, bent low towards Rabbit's throat...and Simba and Kiara feasted. And The Pridelands rejoiced.

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 30 - 16:56

Arctus
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Location: Jax, FL
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org

Gee, y'all, I dunno how he heard, but Pooh apparently caught wind of what y'all were sayin' about him... I guess it really bummed him out. I mean, he's developed some serious vices just to cope with the immense pressure this mill has created.

Well, just see for yourself as to what Pooh has become... ;)



Oh well, guess it was bound to happen eventually, eh? :)

Laters, y'all.

Arctus


Jun 30 - 16:33

Neema.

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Alright -- this is just a question; so don't go off and be all weirdo about it. :>


If there's the Outlands and Simba tells Kiara not to go there -- is it the Elephant Graveyeard? Or what? This has been pesterin' me for awhile, so, I just thought I should get it out and ask. :>


Neema


Jun 30 - 16:27

Lioness

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Well, now the chat is found and I can type in my nick and connect, but right away it disconnects me. :( Is anybody else having these problems?


Jun 30 - 15:46

Brian Tiemann
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The chat seems to be working fine for me...


Jun 30 - 15:44

Lioness

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Brian-
Whats wrong with the chat room? The computer says that theres an error and it cant be found. Do you know when it'll be back online?


Jun 30 - 15:14

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Just a thought . . . maybe all the cast members are at the bottom of the SP cover just so it linking SP to TLK a little more. I think all the characters shown in the silhouette do appear in SP, even if they're in a cloud.


KH#1


Jun 30 - 15:01

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About that Mulan Sing-along tape, according to what it says on the Disney site, it's out already. And, just a note, to my knowledge you can usually rent the sing-along tapes at your video stores (well, at Blockbuster Video, anyway). It may in deed be worth our while to investigate.
About the SP video cover (?), I have to say that I like the design, even if there are some mistakes in the drawing of the characters. I think that the idea of having the sillouettes (sp?) at the bottom is a good idea, but they shouldn't use the same ones that were done for TLK; same idea, but actually make new sillouettes from the characters in SP.


Jun 30 - 14:57

Brian Tiemann
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I agree-- I'm actually starting to really like the SP cover.

Simba's face might not be perfectly on-model, but it's proportioned beautifully and the composition is very striking. This is a far cry from the TLK video cover, which was pretty obviously done by someone hired at less-than-animators'-union wage. Look at Mufasa's face on the TLK video cover. Yugh.

In short, Simba on this cover might not *look* exactly like the Simba we know, but I wouldn't at all mind if this was what Simba DID look like. :)

I do hope they rethink the TLK cast silhouette along the bottom of the picture, though... that's just cheap.


Jun 30 - 14:52

Alexander

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The SP cover art is starting to grow on me. . .I doubt they'll change it TOO much.

That Mulan sing-along tape might be worth looking in to. The ABC version, after all, used various clips to fill the song, while the sing-along tape probably uses the correct images. Too bad the song on the sing-along is the same one we are familiar with. I guess they don't want to give too much away. I don't know if the sing along tape is out yet, but I'm sure gonna look for it. It can't cost more than $9 can it?


Jun 30 - 14:47

Jenna

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KRAZY KAT ~~~~~~~~ please, please, please, please, please, please, please, PLEASE Kill Rabbit!!! I have always hated rabbit even though I do like Piglet Pooh and Eeyore. Don't yell at me.


Jun 30 - 14:45

Krazy Kat

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I'm glad you liked my "Kill Pooh and Friends" series, Kiara fan! I think my next target is Owl or Rabbit.....

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 30 - 14:29

the Panther
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Dara: they could and probably do mean that its realeased in only in the us on the 28 of october, the non us versions probably comes some time after when there finished dubbing, if not there has to be posible to order it on the net somewhere, keep your hopes up,,

ps: i didnt think the cover of TLK music cd was that awfull, (i did get the english version)

thanks
the Panther


Jun 30 - 14:24

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Hey, if anyone wants to see the We Are One song again, they have it on the Mulan sing along tape. I think it's out, I saw it on the Disney website. That's about it. I saw Mulan, and I thought it was great too. Usually I don't like Disney movies other than Lion King, but this was a good one. Of course it doesn't equal up to the Lion King. Also, I loved the Kill Pooh and Friends series, they should animate it! Well, that's just my little thoughts.
Kara (Kiara)
We Are One


Jun 30 - 14:23

krazy Kat

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Don't worry Elyse...Tigger and Eeyore won't be trifled with. I think SIMBAS LUNCH, SIMBAS HOR D'EURVES and SIMBAS DINNER is the last of the "Kill The Pooh" series. Mainly because I HATE Pooh and Piglet the most, and i got a Christopher Robin request..so...

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 30 - 13:56

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KRAZY KAT....I hate pooh too, but please spare tigger & eeyore...


Jun 30 - 13:45

Kiara-holic #1

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I, too, thought the TLK video cover was awful! Hopefully when it gets re-released they'll put a better cover on it. The SP cover looks a tiny bit better. It could still just be promo art though. The TLK soundtrack CD cover could use some help, too. When Little Mermaid was re-released its video and CD cover were completely redesigned so maybe there's hope for TLK.


KH#1


Jun 30 - 13:13

Alexander

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I agree with what was said about TLK video cover: It was very poor in comparison to the theatrical poster. However, I've rarely been impressed with the video box artwork.

Something to note here: That may not be the artwork they use for the SP video cover. Sometimes Disney changes the cover before it is finally released on the video. The changes are rarely huge, but they can still be significant. I don't think the current SP cover looks too shabby. Strangely, it does remind me of a Japanese cartoon.

I can't remember who asked this, but Mulan is not a serious drama, though some parts of the film have some strong emotional moments. The most notable dramatic scenes are the ones where Mulan cuts her hair and goes off to war, and the others are the battle scenes with the huns.

Amazingly Mulan was, to me, one of Disney's funniest movies ever. The funniest moments involve Mulan's attempts to fit in with the soldiers (including a skinny dipping scene!). Eddie Murphy is also very funny as Mushu the dragon.

I thought Mulan was great, certainly better than anything Disney has done since TLK.


Jun 30 - 12:53

Krazy Kat

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:::drumroll:::: And Here's what you've all been waiting for....

SIMBA'S DINNER

Simba had seen a few of these animals before, but they were darker than this one. And they wore less clothing, and they seemed much nicer, too. One of these- humans- as they were called- had never come this close to The Pridelands before. He must be a stupid boy, thought Simba.

"He's so stupid he does'nt even hear me standing here," sighed Simba at the human's stupidity. The clouds were gathering over the serengetti, covering the sun. This grabbed the attention of the boy for a moment. This was Simba's chance. He leapt from the brush, not but ten feet away. He rushed upon his prey, knocking him to the ground, stunning him.

At that point the boy began to cry. "Please no," he said. "My friends need me. Especially Pooh.."

"HES DEAD!" Roared Simba at Christopher Robin. He flexed his claws and turned his head to the side a bit, his mane flopping to the right. "We all need to eat; and you are no longer needed here."

And that was the last thing Christopher Robin heard. And Simba feasted.

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 30 - 12:18

Dara
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THERE!!!! I said it! Wonder if it's working and if the'll answer me back... Don't think they'll have the nerve, alas.....

The story of SP sounded a LOT like TLK!
I mean, Kiara who is strictly forbidden to enter the Outlands is curious, like Simba once was.
Only know it will be no hyena's (dang!) but outcast lions (maybe equally dangerous for little Kiara) That's what we thought all this time.

Well, I've nothing more to say........

Bye,

a still sad and dissapointed Dara


Jun 30 - 11:54

Kese

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(simba)Relax Dara(simba) If you're really desperate to get the film near it's release date just mail order it and then have it converted to the PAL format. I got a copy of the Black Cauldron this way.
In any case it will be released most likely a couple of months later in Europe, like every other Disney film


Jun 30 - 11:34

Dara
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT'S NOT TRUE, TELL ME IT'S NOT TRUE!!!!!!

I KNEW IT!! THOSE BASTARDS!! ONLY AVAILABLE IN THE U.S. AND CANADA!!!! I'M SO SAD, I'M GOING TO WRITE A MESSAGE TO DISNEY AND THIS TIME THEY WILL ANSWER ME!!!!!

They must know by now when and IF the video will come to Europe! I hate Disney! I hate Pooh!

BYE YOU LUCKY GUYS!!!

Dara *SOBBING*

p.s. does somebody knows the difference between the two CD's of TLKoB like I said before???
can somebody help this poor little creature????

P.P.S.S the cover is stupid....... but I like Kiara on it. Often they are different in Europe those covers.


Jun 30 - 11:27

Dara

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Ducky, it made me AWFULLY mad when I read Rowan Atkinson didn't voice Zazu!!
Now I'm a fan of him (Mr. Bean), but I also think it's really stupid if Disney not to keep the origional voices. Maybe Rowan didn't want to go to the States again. Yes, there's hope.... I mean, the voice of Zazu in TLKoB wasn't indeed that bad. You just need an English man, that's all... I hope...
Oh, Krazy Kat, you're not the only Bean-a-holic!!!
AND HE'S NOT DEAD!!

Ducky, I'm glad Zira looks different.... or else it would be boring with every lioness looking the same. Funny how all villainesses are looking well.... not quite like a stereo type of Disney females (long lashes, big eyes, etc)
Or does anybody know a beautiful villainess made by Disney??

Shenzi, I would try to send you the Chronicle series, but I'm not sure it will work. You know that my server only supports 65Kb? That sucks too. But I can always try... tell me when you get the aol. By the way, no, for me there's no other Disney movie like TLK!! I DO like others, like Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, Hunchback, 101 Dalmations, Bambi (well, that are my favorite movies after TLK)

Was Mulan better than the Hunchback?? And was it funny?? It seems to me like it's a very serious and sad movie. I mean, a woman in the army, can it be more sad??

Krazy Kat, how can Piglet be a Hors d'euvre??
He's soo little. Not much meat on it.
When is Simba going to get that boy?!

Sorry, but I REALLY have to agree with Chris Boyce. Comedy series from the U.K. are the best!!!
I like them all (except that stupid "Keeping up apperances!!!!) I'm not from the U.K. but I think all the American comedy series such as Who's the Boss and Blossom sucks!!! (Except 'Married with children'...) Sorry for this non-SP related topic.

Yes Arctus, I thought Kovu sounded like adult Simba too.

Yeah Jenna, post it, why not!? Doesn't matter it's naughty or what. I'm old enough! Ha!

Cold Dragon, we'll have to wait untill the sequel comes out to find out about wether or not Kovu was personally banished. Maybe we're going to see flash-backs of the banishment.

Sorry, I wrote too much again. I just can't stop!!

It's time to Chow Down........

Dara


Jun 30 - 11:16

Lioness again

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ya, I know, I know. But one thing really quick..... Kiara wondering whats in the Outlands, Timon and Pumbaa let it slip, and she runs off there disobeying her father. Sounds familiar, don't you think?


Jun 30 - 11:15

Lioness

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LOL! I agree with you! The 1st thing I noticed was how big Simba's nose was. If they couldv'e fixed that it wouldn't be nearly as bad!
Thanx Chris, for posting the site!

BUSA TLK and SP!!


Jun 30 - 11:11

krazy kat again

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oops! Beat me to it, Lioness! I for one, think the SP cover looks just as bad as the TLK cover, mainly because the artists that do the movie don't do the movie cover. I think The TLK cover would have been great if they used the movie poster! See those silhouettes at the bottom of the SP cover? They are re-using them from TLK! they are trying to pass of Mufasa and Sarabi as Simba and Nala, Simba and Nala as Kiara and Kovu! How cheap can we get, here?!

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 30 - 11:08

Krazy Kat

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Lioness, that pic on Brian's SP section is the movie cover. Chris Boyce posted it a few messages down. If you missed it, here is the address:

http://www.disney.com/DisneyVideos/ComingAttractions/lionking2.html

There is also some SP plot info....


Jun 30 - 11:05

Lioness again

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ok, I just looked at the Disney part for SP and saw that pic there. Well, now I think that its the cover to the movie. Never mind :P


Jun 30 - 11:01

Lioness

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Cold Dragon-
I agree with you!

Everybody else-
look on Brians SP part of his site! Where is that pic from? Anybody know? Maybe its the cover to the video, or is it a fan art?


Jun 30 - 10:58

Kese

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About why Kovu has a little "mane", I don't think it has anything to do with him being older. Remember Simba didn't have that little mane until he was an adolesnet(log scene)
I just think it's a design idea to make Kovu look much different from young Simba. Kopa(simba's son in the six new adventures series) also has that tuft and is described as being the same age as Simba at the start of TLK.
As for Kiara's flirting with Kovu *shrug*, she's a bit precosious(sp?);)


Jun 30 - 10:25

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

NEWS!!
I just heard about this:


http://www.disney.com/DisneyVideos/ComingAttractions/lionking2.html


Go and have a look for yourself!


Bye,
Chris.


Jun 30 - 10:18

Cold Dragon

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Lioness
It takes 5 years for a male lion to be mature and have a full mane. I did the research, it was on National Geographic explorer a few nights ago, they metioned it many times so I am sure about this.

On another note
My computer is driving me crazy!!!!!!!! It takes me over 30 mins to get to the rumor mill. The power went off while I was on the net last week and it has not been able to connect, except at an increadably slow speed since. I can't even get connected to the chat room !!!!!!!!! Someone if you have any clue why a computer would do this and what can be done about it PLEASE help me!!!!!!!!!!

Back to SP
I questioned before why Kovu has more mane as a cub then Simba did. I think I might have an answer. I think Kovu and Kiara as cubs are older then Simba and Nala were as cubs in TLK. Here is my reasoning 1 Kovu has more of a mane. 2 Kiara flirted a little with Kovu in the latest SP preview, in TLK Simba and Nala were grossed out by that kind of thing. 3 Simba said that Kovu "was banished with the other outsiders". Kovu must have already been born other wise how could he personaly have been banished.
So what does this have to do with anything?
This might give Kovu a loop hole to get back into the Priderock pride. If he was a tiny cub at the time he would of had to go with his mother for food. Yes I know Kovu could feed from another lioness but, proably the other lionesses with cubs (if there were others) would of also left since they would have been loyal to Scar.
So maybe Kovu could pull a " I was to young to make a well informed decsion about what to do" and be able to stay with Kiara.
Clearly Kovu does something other wise why would he be following Simba at the end of the preview.
Like always this is just me trying to make somewhat logical (at least to me it's logical) guesses at the plot and nothing is proven till SP comes out.
Feel free to rip apart my ideas, that's how better guesses are made :)

Just a few more of my thoughts


Jun 30 - 09:48

Parmjeet Mandair

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I have load a new site up at this a address

http://members.xoom.com/Parmy/web/warning.htm

The new site is going to have new thing and page and to download


Jun 30 - 08:34

Alexander

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NO, I DON'T think that Kovu sounds like Matthew Broderick. I think Kovu sounds like Jason Marsden, the actor who provides Kovu's voice. I don't think Jason sounds anything at all like Matthew Broderick. You guys are reading way too much into things.


Jun 30 - 07:57

Krazy Kat

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Amphriss, I'd hate to break this to you, but Sarabi isn't even going to be in the sequel! Nor the hyenas, might I add. Therefore, she will not die. She WAS going to be in SP and she MIGHT have died, but she has been written out. I think it's okay though, because no one can replace Madge Sinclair's voice for Sarabi. Sarabi just wouldn't sound right. (May you rest in peace, Madge.)

#HATE THE POOH#
#HUNT THE POOH#


Jun 30 - 07:22

Lioness

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Kiara-holic #1-
Yes I agree that adult Kovu sounds like Simba. (as I posted way earlier) A few of my friends think that too. I wonder if it was just the way he said it, or if he always has that little hint of Simba in him?


Jun 30 - 07:15

Kiara-holic #1

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Okay, I thought I was going crazy and thought I was the only one who thought the adult Kovu sounded just like Matthew Broderick. Now I feel a little better.


KH#1


Jun 30 - 01:21

Amphriss@AOL.com
Wild Speculations Inc.
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I know some of you dislike speculations about SP......but I can't help it! I read on some media web site about the voices of the SP characters....(sorry, I should've remembered the URL...) I noticed that the woman doing Sarafina's voice will now also be the voice of Sarabi. Here's where the wild speculation comes in...Simba won't die, but Sarabi will....thus teaching Kiara about the Circle and all without being a plot repeat of Tlk...Zazu in my opinion will "go on a vacation" or otherwize play a minimal role here....
Ok...new subject: Homework Assignment for you all (a fun one).....Go to your local Disney Store, and before a powder blue sweatered freak says hi, look around and sneer "Ughh...only pooh stuff? Don't you have any Lion King nightgowns?(or item of your choice) God I hate pooh, what are the shipping dates for all the Simba's Pride merchandise???" They need a nice huffy hint that the products they have now are awful....(nice quality wasted on pooh)
Also....I know many video stores are offering SP purchases in advance of release...BUT, the disney stores will most likely offer a serigraph/litho whatever that matte printed paper board is.....of what will probably be a nice little collectible...


Jun 29 - 22:26

Jenna

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Does anyone wanna read my version of TLK II before I knew much about the sequal. Umm, I would post it, but I don't think lil' kids should read it....its not Hardcore, but kindda naughty at parts, not Majorly bad. Ummm, post a message here...

JENNA


Jun 29 - 22:18

Jenna

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Am i the only person here who like Pooh? But I did like ??'s story about him gettin eatin. I just like how he looks. Oh yeh, what are all of your opinions on "Lady and the Tramp"? Thats one a my fav Disney movies. My otheres are TLK and The Fox and the Hound..


Jun 29 - 22:15

Neema

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Artcus -- yep. I think he does sound like Matthew Broderick. Scary, yesyes? :)


Neema


And, just to fit in:


#HATE THE POOH#


#MURDER THE POOH#


#STAB THE POOH WITH THE KNIFE O.J SIMPSON USED TO KILL HIS WIFE#


Good enough, hm? :>~


Jun 29 - 21:16

Arctus
BearPaw Productions
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E-mail: arctus@lionking.org

Mebbe it's just me, but doesn't adult Kovu sound eerily like Matthew Broderick??? When Zira asks him in the preview "What is your destiny?", and he responds with "...to avenge Scar...", doesn't he sound JUST like him?!?

OK, nuff o me... tell me what ya think, y'all.

Arctus


Jun 29 - 20:39

Krazy Kat

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Shenzi,
I'm glad you liked my story "Simba's Lunch" it was a spur-of-the-moment kinda thing. It justr came to me. I'm sure Simb and Sarabi left some Pooh remains for you..Here's the epilogue to "Simba's Lunch"

Epilogue
"Simba's Hor d'eurves"

Sarabi cornered the pink critter, who was much faster than the bear. He looked like he had been killed and sewn bvack together again; stiches went up his back. "H-hello," stammered the pink thing. "my name is Piglet."

He didn't look like a pig at all to Sarabi. Pumbaa was a pig. Not this pitiful thing in front of her. "How would you like to go? QUICK- or slow?" growled Sarabi, approaching the pig.

"Neither, p-p-please," answered Piglet, turning to run. But he hastily bumped into Simba just behind him. "Oh dear, oh my," he turned to run the other way, but Sarabi took a quick swipe and knocked him into a young Aciaca tree, shaking the leaves. The tree quivered with the force of the hit. The pink thing closed its eyes and Simba and Sarabi feasted. And The Pridelands rejoiced.

THE END


Jun 29 - 19:43

shenzi

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hello everyone. haven't been here in a loooong time. any way, I LOVE ZIRA !! she is so cool looking with that manic, insane look in her eyes, and that notched ear, that feirce snarl, and those teeth look dagger sharp ! WOW ! i wouldn't wanna make that kitty kat pissed off. i agree with Kichebo that zira looks kinda like cruella. she also looks scar like and she reminds me of that creepy medusa lady from The Rescuers. Thank Aiheu she looks nothing like any of the other lionessess. zira gives this hyena the shivers.Dara, i guess i'm gonna have to wait untill my dad gets me aol to get the chronicals e-mailed to me, cause few of my friends have aol on their computers and since its summer i don't see them all that much anyway. everyones busy working and hanging at the beach. my best friends computer crashed and she can't even get aol back on it. that must suck. if and when i get aol and an e-mail adress could you please send me the rest of the chronical stories ? i would be so gratefull. i can't wait to get aol, i feel like i'm never gonna get it. i saw mulan recently. i thought it was the best movie since tlk but not better than tlk. i thought it was funnier than herc or tlk but there is just something about the tlk story that makes me love it so much that in my eyes no disney movie will ever rival it. i know you all seem to be devouted tlk fans, but is there anyone out there that likes anouther disney animated movie better than tlk ? probably a dumb question, but i was just wondering. Krazy Kat, i loved your simba eats pooh story. i'm gonna go scavenge for some pooh remains now, my stomachs on the grrrrrrrrowl. c-ya and hakuna matata ! Hate the pooh. Hunt the pooh. Maim the pooh. Busa Simba !


Jun 29 - 17:34

Lioness again

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Ha! Krazy Kat beat me to it! You must have posted it while I was ty[ing! :P oh well, I guess I dont have to do all that research! Whew! (thanx)
Anyways, We Are One

oh and I really do think that voice is Mufasa- now that I've heard it enough. :) Actually I havent heard it enough! I can watch it over and over again. ok, I'll stop babbling now!


Jun 29 - 13:58

Lioness

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Alexander-
Well, I must confess that I can't remember where I heard this. :( But when Pumbaa, Timon, and Simba are crossing that log, remember seeing Simba in 3 "stages"? (I guess you can call them that). Well 1st you see cub Simba. Then he grows older with that little mane on the top of his head. Then you see him as an adult with a full mane. I heard that that stands for 3 years! It REALLY stinks that I cant remember where I heard it. I'll do some research to try to back it up. If anybody remembers that too, TELL ME! But until then, if you want to be stubborn, you can just consider it a rumor. :)

p.s.- I might be mistaken and I'm just guessing, but does it take 3 years for a lion to grow up fully? Correct me if I'm wrong, and -again- I'll do some research and tell you if I find anything.
Until then, Hakuna Matata!! :)


Jun 29 - 13:53

elyse

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alexander..the problem is i never watch frasier or any of the other shows he's been in and i did go to nbc.com but they just talked about his character and didn't show any pictures. i guess i'll just have to break down and watch frasier. thanks for the help though.
~~elyse


Jun 29 - 13:48

Krazy Kat

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Alexander,
Lioness has estimated three years because of plain and simple facts. On The "Log Scene" in the Hakuna Matata sequence, we see Simba crossing in three stages. Young, Adolescant, and Adult. It basically takes three years for a lion/lioness to reach full maturity.

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 29 - 13:46

Alexander

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Lioness, how do you know that Simba, Timon and Pumbaa were together 3 years? Where did you get that number? There was no indication of how long Simba was gone.

Elyse, this Edward Hibbert shouldn't be too much of a mystery! He was on the episode of Frasier that aired last night (Sunday)! He was dressed as an Indian at a costume party on last night's episode. I don't know where to find a picture of him on the internet, but just watch Frasier and you are bound to see him. Maybe www.nbc.com has some info on him. Just go there and choose "Frasier" from their list of shows. There has to be SOMETHING about him there, even though he isn't considered one of the major characters.


Jun 29 - 13:20

Lioness

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I'd like to know how old Pumbaa and Timon are! They weren't as young as Simba when they found him in the desert. They grew up 3 years with him, and are now in SP, with Kiara. Anybody have any ideas?
Anyways, I think Zira is so cool! When I first saw her in the SP section (thanx Blue Lion!) I thought she looked ugly. But when I saw the preview she stood out! (to me anyways)
Well,no new SP info but- I know somebody said this before- you can now reserve a copy of SP at Suncoast! You have to pay a minimum of 5 bucks in advance, though. Maybe somebody can get info about it there? I went there today and forgot to ask :P
BUSA SP & TLK!!


Jun 29 - 12:35

Krazy Kat

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E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

HELP ME!!!
I have Quicktime 2.1, but everything now requires Quicktime 3.0..every time I go to the Quicktime site to download Quicktime 3.0, it says "Establishing FTP Data Connection" for at least ten minutes. Now, my server is slow, but it's not that slow! then after a while i get booted and it tells me"The System Has Stopped Responding". does anyone know what's wrong? Please help!!!

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 29 - 12:23

elyse

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ok, this edward hibbert guy is driving me nuts!!! i have no clue who he is. i attempted to researh the guy & i found a few things, but i still don't know who he is. i know he's been on dave's world, the john larroquette show, and frasier. i also know he voiced evil the cat in earthworm jim and it's rumored that he's going to be a regular on the new fantasy island, but i still have absolutely no earthly idea who in the world he is!!! help!!
~~elyse


Jun 29 - 11:07

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello All,
I have to just say one thing about this ridiculous "Rowan Atkinson is dead." rumour. He most certainly isn't, he's well and doing a lot of good work, most notably a recent sitcom "The Thin Blue Line" where he plays a not unZazu-like uniformed Police Sargent. Look, just because the guy likes to work in the UK, that doesn't mean he doesn't exist - there is real life, and real comedy, outside the US.
Rowan has stated that he will do no more 'Mr. Bean's, and to be frank he has said he didn't much like doing it. It was work for him, i.e. money mainly, and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't know why he's not doing SP, it could be he is too busy (unlikely as voice work doesn't take long), or that he simply wants to move on to something new. Whatever he's certainly still very much alive and you see him again on your screens. In the meantime I suggest you get hold of a copy of any of the Black Adder series, there are four, each of six shows. The second (Elizabethan period) is probably the best, but they are all good, but maybe not to US taste (most of its in 'bad' taste as in:


Baldrick: But Baldrick's have been in your family for hundreds of years!


Edmund Blackadder: So's syphillis, now get out!


Bye,
Chris.


Jun 29 - 11:02

Alexander

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OK, I watch Frasier all the time, and know who the character Gil is, and never knew the actor's name!!

This Frasier actor might be a good choice for Zazu---on Frasier the guy plays a prissy guy who has a food-related radio show. The characters sometimes make fun of him on the show, and one time Frasier had an unpleasant homoerotic dream involving him.

His voice does sound Zazu-ish so it shouldn't be too painful for us not to hear Rowan Atkinson, especially since Zazu is supposedly not in SP much.

Do we know yet if there is a female bird character in SP (not necessarily a girlfriend to Zazu)? Jane Leeves, who is Daphne on "Frasier" was supposed to play a bird in SP: She even said so in a book interview. Wonder if this character was written out.

Zazu is voiced by Michael Gough at the Enchanted Tiki Room show in Walt Disney World in Florida.


Jun 29 - 09:55

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: Taylor6@Ix.NetCom.COm

My story is comming along quiete well, I just finished wrighting chaper 9 and jst need to proof read it. If you want you can read my Loosly based story about Simba's Pride.
http://www.byoc.com/homepage/150462/main.html
Berrit, I'm sorry you can't be online for a while, I hope you do wright a story. If you do read my story, please letme know, I'm on the chat room almost every night after 10Pm central. Thanks.

Nalo
We are one.


Jun 29 - 09:27

Hong Kong Phooey

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Krazy Kat, I'm a BIG fan of Lady and the Tramp, but I just meant that I didn't feel that type of dog would fit in with the much more stylized look of Mulan. Though I guess Peg might fit in, since she's a Pekingese!

Ducky, what do you think is wrong with Zira? She's not supposed to be a pretty noble creature: She a freakin' villain! I think she's cool, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.


Jun 29 - 08:32

Erynn

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E-mail: SilvyrWing

hmm...
totally unrelated. :) but it WAS brought up, so I think I'm OK. Shiz-tzus would actually be pretty good guard dogs because, like dobermans, they have the ability to lock their jaws shut. Once they bite down they don't let go! just like a huge dog in a small package.

now I'll say something about SP. I love the lioness that was in the Magoo preview. was that Zira? I was a big fan/ fan-artist of scar when TLK came out, and I'm already a fan of Kovu. (whether or not he is scar's son) Does anyone know ANYTHING about Vitani and Nuka? If you do, I'd like to know. but then again, so would everyone else...

Silvyr


Jun 29 - 07:43

Tau

Location: Philly!
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Krazy Kat, I've heard that rumor about Rowan Atkins being dead myself, but the reality is that the man is still very much alive and breathing. The thing here is that he hasn't done any work since his "Mr Bean" movie a few years ago, so he sort of faded out of public view.
As for Edward Hibbert, I don't know exactly who he is, but if any of you watch Frasier, he plays Gil Chesterton on a few of those shows. since I've only actually seen a handfull of Frasier episodes that's all I really know. But maybe someone else can elaborate?


Jun 29 - 06:53

Krazy Kat

Location: La La Land, USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Edward Hibbert sounds very familiar to me, but he doesn't strike me at this moment...I think the guy that does Zazu on TLKoB (Geof Hoyle?) is pretty darn close to Rowan Atkinson, who, might i add, is my Mr. Bean!! (I'm also a Bean-a-holic, probably the only one.) Too bad he's busy with.:::lays back:::...well, TLKoB! Someone told me Rowan Atkinson died last December. Does anyone know if this is true? I know Madge Sinclair (Sarabi) died December '95, but I wasn't sure about Rowan Atkinson, because I got this from a very UNreliable source. If anyone has any info on Rowan please post it here or E Mail me..

~Krazy Kat~
"And Where The Journey
May Lead You
Let This Prayer
Be Your Guide
Thought It May Take You
So Far Away
Always Remember
Your Pride"- TLKoB, Shadowland

:::Flexes a single claw and scratches under her chin:::

Certified:
Adult-Simba-Holic
Sarabi Holic
Sarafina Holic
Mufasa-Holic
Zazu-Holic
Kiara-Holic
Kovu-Holic
Hyena-Holic
Pumbaa-Holic
Timon-Holic
Scar-a-Holic
Argh! Soon I'll be an everybody holic!

Probably soon to be a:
Vitani-Holic
Nuka-Holic
Zira-Holic
Coming soon! =)


Jun 29 - 06:14

gridlock

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the voice of zazu is being provided by an actor by the name of edward hibbert. i've never heard of him. anyone?


Jun 29 - 02:04

Kiara-holic #1

Location: CA
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Well, its just little 'ol me moseying into the rumor mill again. I don't know that any Disney direct-to-video release has ever been advertised in a theater before (if I'm wrong I know someone will jump in here and correct me), but I think that would be pretty cool if they advertised SP that way. Usually only theatrical releases are advertised in theaters, but just recently I started to see other things advertised like when I saw The Truman Show one of the previews was a Ford commercial! That was weird, but then I noticed in the movie that Truman Burbank drove a Ford. Like Jim Carrey really drives a Ford, yeah, right! I'll look into that TLKoB CD thing, Dara. Have to confess that I have a big lack of knowledge when it comes to TLKoB. If it wasn't almost 2 in the morning I'd probably have something intelligent to say. I better lie down before I hurt myself.


Christian Z. aka Kiara-holic #1 :-)


Jun 29 - 01:50

Ducky

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ok, i just noticed something. ok i was downloading the mr magoo preview from the sp part of this page and i was bored cause it takes so long so i read the whole page and it said rowan achitsonmoh, i cant spell his last name, is NOT doing zazus voice. that makes me really mad!!! im not a fan of rowan or anything, but i HATE it when they make sequels and dont keep the original voices! its just one of those things that just tick me off! i really hope the person whi is doing it now can come close to zazus original voice


Jun 28 - 21:33

Ducky

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ok, i havent seen the mr magoo preview yet, but i did see the pictures for it on this pages sp part, i was just wondering if the un-familiar lion that is on like the last 5 or so pics on the page was zira or whatever. if that is then she is really ugly!


Jun 28 - 20:29

Krazy Kat

Location: La La Land, USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Hey now, Hong Kong Phooey...What's wrong with the Lady and The Tramp dogs? I for one am a big fan of Tramp and Peg...just saying...

~Krazy Kat~
"And Where The Journey
May Lead You
Let This Prayer
Be Your Guide
Though It May Take You
So Far Away
Always Remember
Yoyr Pride"

PS- Hey, "The Black Cauldron" is returning to theatres, then it's gonna be on video! Maybe there will be an SP preview! Or if not, "Lady And The Tramp" is coming September 1st, that's a bit closer to SP than Black Cauldron, maybe there will be a preview on there. (I know I'm getting both of them. I've got L and the T on a blank tape, but it's quality just doesnt cut it anymore =P

TLKiaWoL!!!

Certified:
Adult Simba Holic
Sarafina Holic (Saffy)
Sarabi Holic (Sassy)
Kiara Holic
Kovu Holic
Zazu Holic
Mufasa Holic
Scar-a-Holic
Hyena-Holic
Probably I'll be an everybody holic soon enough!!


Jun 28 - 20:12

Hong Kong Phooey

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Thanks for clearing that up, Kese. I really don't know that much about the lifestyles of Chinese citizens. I forgot about the Chinese breeds of dogs like Shar-Peis. Good comparsion about rabbits in America. Again, I did not mean to offend anyone---I really did want to know.

I actually liked Little Brother. If he looks like an Asian cartoon character, it is probably because a number of Asian artists worked on Mulan. I actually like what they did with Little Brother. I'm glad he didn't look like a Lady and the Tramp dog!


Jun 28 - 19:06

Kese

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E-mail: sollarus@erols.com

On Chinese dogs: Yes, dogs are kept as pets in China. Shitz-zus(sp?) where developed to be guard dogs for the Imperial palaces(strange considering their size, but...)So while some Asian countries may indeed occasionally use them as livestock ,dogs are also kept as pets. Much the same way Westerners may keep pet rabbits but also use them as livestock.
Although, "Little Brother" stuck out like a sore thumb in Mulan. The drawing style looked to much like a cutesy anime critter for my taste.


Jun 28 - 17:57

Hong Kong Phooey

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Everyone seems to have ideas about what is going to happen in Simba's Pride. I guess this rumor mill is just going to be everyone speculating the plot! I can remember a time when so many people refused to believe my information that Simba's cub was named "Kiara" (which I had gotten off the "Party of Five" site).

This is totally off the topic, but I FINALLY saw "Mulan" yesterday. I thought it was great----the best Disney film since TLK in my opinion. I actually want to go see it again, which is something I haven't done since TLK came out 4 years ago!

I do have a question about "Mulan" and maybe someone knows the answer. I don't mean to offend anyone, but it is in regards to the fact that Mulan has a dog. Are dogs really kept as pets in China? Or is Little Brother considered a "farmyard animal?" I really don't mean to offend anyone, but I just wondered about this.


Jun 28 - 17:05

Gabrielle

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E-mail: CCAMOPS@msn.com

Every butty is taking about the new loin king move
I can not wate


Jun 28 - 16:26

Amphriss

Location: Boston
E-mail: Amphriss@AOL.com

Just throwing in my 2 cents ! (I'm a little behind here....I've finally sucked it up and shelled out 4 bucks at Blockbuster to see the Magoo SP trailer) Fabulous trailer! But what is it that Pumbaa says when he is side by side with Kiara?Also.... Did Scar bother to find the Outlanders only after being attacked (and not killed) by the Hyenas? And in my humble opinion, that was definitley Mufasa's voice (We Are Onnnne) --- a call to unite the two prides, I'm guessing....But, Kiara looks sad up on pride rock, against the sun, so who dies? If it's Simba, that could be very lame---- Unless that is the point where Kovu switches alligiences, as suggested previously here......Kovu is definitley a "good Guy" in the making.....And by the way, GAWD.....Rafiki must be half dead by this movie....the oldest character!


Jun 28 - 13:50

Lioness

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Is this "everybody ignore Lioness on the chat room day" or something? All but one person actually talked to me. I'd go on the chat room and see somebody there and I'd say hi. no answer. I'd be like "hello-o-o-o-o?" and "are you awake?" etc. and there would be still no answer. :P Very strange! oh well, I havta go now. be back tomorrow!


Jun 28 - 13:30

Dara

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Kiara-Holic, I just went to your new merchandise amazone.com. It's much more clear I think!
For Music Boulevard was quite a mess to me and therefore diffucult to understand, for me.

I have only one question..... at Amazone you can order 2 CD's of TLKoB!! One with the origional cast and one I'm not sure. The one with the origional cast is more expensive in comparison with 'Music Boulevard'. Which one should I order??

The one with the origional cast or the other??
I mean, what's the difference between them??
Which one do you guys think is better?

I will order the CD as soon as I have a Visa Card.
I need one anyway, for my holiday.

Thanks!!

Dara


Jun 28 - 13:00

Kiara-holic #1

Location: Orange County
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Just adding that Beerit didn't necessarily make the cool "theater" picture for my site. She just has problems downloading stuff to hers for the moment. There's a lot of new things at my site anyway. Check out the revision log to see some of the new stuff. Nothing too new to add here except that I was at Target yesterday and noticed a severe shortage of Lion King merchandise. I hope they remedy that soon. Dara: did you ever order your CD? The links in my merchandise section now link to amazon.com and I think you can order from them and then send them a check. I think. Just ordered myself the Broadway soundtrack CD after reading that CYFTLT on it sounds a lot better than the normal soundtrack one.


Kiara-holic #1 :-)


Kiara's Sahifa


Jun 28 - 12:18

Lioness

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Dara-
I agree with you, I think that Kovu looks sorry when Simba says, "you were banished with the other outsiders" Like maybe it wasnt his choice. I dont remember any lion cub when Simba came back to Pride Rock. Maybe Zira took Kovu and ran off while or before the fight happened?


Jun 28 - 11:56

Dara

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Haven't you seen the previeuw Beerit!? Do so!
It was SUPER!!!! Better than the previeuw of the 10th of May! The music "he lives in you" was perfectly choosen I thought. Well, it send shivers down my spine, so I guess that will say enough!!!
Too bad you're moving, but I guess you are not leaving this site....

I don't know about Mr. Magoo. I DO like that Leslie Nielssen guy! He's one of my most favorite comedians!! He always has that funny look on his face. The Naked Gun series on the big screen were GREAT!!!!

Oh, I wondered if Zira might die at the end (kinda like Scar) or maybe Simba will die and then Kovu (who loves Kiara dearly) will turn his back on his mother.... Now THAT will be DRAMA!!!

And YES!! Kovu sounded just like Simba in the previeuw! And when Simba tells him that 'he was banished with the other outsiders' look at his face. Just like Simba! I felt really sorry for Kovu at that scene!! Like he's saying... but I can't help it! Why do you punish me?...

Krazy Kat, why set up an MPEG player if you can download Quick Time 3.0? O.k. if you already have an MPEG player who needs to be installed.... Why wait any longer? By the way, nice story! Hopefully Pooh-lovers will never read it! That will be too much for their kind and honeysweet harts!
Probably they'll faint...

Bye!

Dara

#They live in you#


Jun 28 - 10:57

Zira

Location: NY
E-mail:

hi! Im new on this sight. If anyone needs a clip from the magoo preiview I for a web page I could get it. I can freeze a picture and send it to anyone. so if anyone needs a picture just post their reqest on the rumor mill!


Jun 28 - 10:39

Krazy Kat

Location: USA
E-mail: Krzykatmer@aol.com

Farside Master,

Kovu or Zira or possibly Scar's entire Pride could kill Simba, making Kovu king. That's probably what Zira's plan is, for Kovu to kill Simba. That way, her son (?) would become king and Scar would be avenged. Just a thought.

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 28 - 10:30

farside master
guns and roses
Location: lost angels
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if simba is king then how would kovu be king? i missed th mr magoo show did they sing a song or a clip? ps. please do tell


Jun 28 - 10:10

Krazy Kat

Location: Maryland, La La Land, USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Hey all.
Sorry I havent been here in a while. My browser is really stupid and told me Brian's site was down . Argh! If anyone knows how to set up an MPEG player for Wondows '95, please help me! Somebody was helping me for a few hours but we were unsucessful because my COMPUTER IS STUPID!!! Ouch! Sorry for yelling, but my pooter didnt come with the correct MPEG player it was supposed to have....

I drew a pic of Vitani and Nuka based off of their name tags, and, even though i'm not a really great drawer, my Vitani doesnt look as..hmm..POed at something as she does on her name tag. And I like her little bowl cut! She looks cute! I wonder who's side she ends up being on...My Nuka isnt as good as my Vitani, but he still looks alright. My friend drew a really good pic of Adult Kovu.

About the argument over Kovu's mane color on TLK-L and here as well I believe, from the pics I've seen, it looks like a really dark brown, not Jet ebony coal ash black like Scar's, but pretty close. My friend also agrees. They're so cute...

Well, here we go. I write some stories so here's a short story called "Simba's Lunch" I am making up as I go along.

SIMBA'S LUNCH
A Short Story By
Krazy Kat

Simba crouched low to the ground, his mane waving lifelessly in the afternoon breeze. This animal was unlike anything he had ever seen; it wore- a shirt of some sorts. "He needs to buy some pants if he's going to wear that awful thing," Simba thought. He paced near the animal. "No one likes a half naked bear. egh." It was a yellow bear. Simba looked at it, puzzled.

The bear began to sing to himself, "I'm a Pooh bear, so I do care, so I do care," he sang while he wandered. Simba growled at the hoarse sound of his voice and slitted his eyes. His tail twitched.

Suddenly Simba leapt from the tall brown grass and charged towards Pooh. Pooh turned to see Simba (imagine the scene where Timon sees Nala charging towards he and Pumbaa. Change Nala to Simba and Timon to Pooh.) "Oh bother," gasped the bear.

He turned and tried to waddle away, but it was of no use. Simba pounced on Pooh bear, knocking him harshly to the ground. There was a deep growl in Simba's throat. The lion took one claw and tore off Pooh's shirt. "Say your prayers, bear," hissed the angry cat.

"Oh, good day, Mr. Lion. How are you? Look, now. It was'nt very nice of you to rip my shirt," rambled the bear.

"SILENCE!" roared Simba. It echoed througout the Pridelands, grabbing the attention of Sarabi, who soon appeared.

"No, no! Please, no! Oh- Oh- Oh bother!" shouted the bear. And Simba and Sarabi feasted.

Suddenly they saw a quick flash of pink fly by and they heard, "Oh dear, oh my." Simba and his mother turned and exchanged a fiendish grin.....

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 28 - 09:59

Kidsimba

Location: Kidsimba's Pridelands
E-mail: kidsimba@juno.com

Just in case any one missed the last post-
The mpeg and QT 3.0 clips are up, hope everyone enjoys them, 6 megs for the mpeg, 10 for the QT


Kidsimba's Pridelands


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Jun 27 - 15:45

Lioness again

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ok one more thing real quick-
did any body else notice that in the Mr. Magoo preview when Kovu says, "I will avenge Scar" that he sounds like Simba?! He seriously does!
ok, thats all for now! :)
we are one


Jun 27 - 15:28

Lioness

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*sniiif* ya, I kinda do too. Enemys fall in love with each other, and are trying to be split apart.
But it doesnt look like Zira and Simba will exactly become friends.
I wonder when Disney is gonna let out another preview?! They did it right b4 I was about to explode with eagerness, hope their gonna do it a bit sooner. but they cant let out too much or theyll give away the whole movie. Which I wouldnt mind Too much....actually I think I would. oh well. Hakuna Matata everyone!! :)


Jun 27 - 15:23

Beerit

Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Oy... I've been to my father's house for 4 days & look at this place!
I can't believe I missed the second preview! I'll catch it in the movie when I rent it.... Brian,
something is wrong with the clips. they take waaaay too long to load.
so, u couldn't stop your lives for 4 days & wait till I came back, couldn't u?!?!?!!??!?!
its ok.... well, here r my thoughts.
(I m sooooo sorry if I repeat)

were there any sounds on the preview? did we hear Zira or Kovu or anybody talk??
any new slogan? (hakuna matata, we r 1, united in the pride lands, stuff like that...)

I'm having some major site probs so sorry. no captures in the near week.... ))));
I feel really awful 'bout that.... sorry guys...

the pics I saw:
hmmm.... when Simba seems to be yelling at Kovu, Kovu reminds me of simba with his
tormented look.
Zira is Scar's sister or something couse that kind of resemblance cant be achieved
even with the wonder of modern medesence.... (;
Kiara is looking good! Pumba look pretty good too.
ummmm.... I think the quality is better then in the may 10th preview, don't u?
man, this movie is gonna be big!
but why put it on the MR. magoo movie? no one will see it ever.... it sounds kinda stupid.
#POO THE POOH#
oh, that's later.... (;
Cold Dragon, I was kidding.... now u ruined it 4 me... I though it involved Sarabi, Kiara &
some softwere.... (:<
The theater pic was supposed to go into my site first actually but I have probs like I
said...
But I wanted everybody to see it couse it ruled so I gave it to KH#1. enjoy!

I'm sorry guys, I didn't read all the messages. I figured they were all like in the may 10th
one. "oh its cute...", "I liked his ear...", "I FEEL GOOD!", "I think I'm gonna puke...",
etc. so spare me.... (;


I m moving to a new town this monday. so be prepared to not hearing from me for a few
days. till I get a line.
my sincere apology!

u think I should write a fan fic?
the story is itching inside of me, just waiting to burst out, I CANT TAKE IT!!!!
I have to tell someone or I'll go mad!!!!

#THE HELL WITH THE POOH#
#MAN, I HATE THE POOH#
#BEAR SOUP........#


we are one
they live in you
the new preview sounds cool
the last message is true........

p.s. I made new fan art. one of the pics features Kovu after he's been in a clothes drier a whole day... tehe......


Jun 27 - 15:19

Kichebo

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finally saw the preview, and I loved the look of grown-up Kovu. He looks just like the animation brochure, only he is smiling in the brochure and not in the preview.

Zira is definitely creepy.....reminds me of a cross between Scar and Cruella DeVille....

Nuka does not look like a carbon copy of Kovu. He is grey, with a different hairdo , rounder face/muzzle, and beady lil red eyes. The tag on the bean bag toy does try to make him look pleasant, tho......
and while I agree about Vitani's weird bowl hairdo, I guess Disney had to improvise ways to distinguish lioness cubs from one another...Kiara looks just like Nala did, only colored differently.

I definitely smell a Romeo and Juliet type plot here, anyone else? *sniiiiiiiiiiif* :-)


Jun 27 - 15:10

Lioness

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Sorry- I didnt get to finish my messege. All I wanted to say was that there has to be some sort of connection between Zira and Scar. Father and daughter seems like one of the best ideas for it.
ok, thats all for now!
Busa Simba!!


Jun 27 - 13:58

Lioness

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Amphriss-your welcome :)

Redraptor- That does sound possible. (Kovu being Scar's grandson) And that would be the reason why Zira wants to get rid of Simba so badly. Except that would be a bit too much like TLK.....getting revenge for the father's death.


Jun 27 - 13:25

the Panther
Stunent
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahoo.com

hi, whats this sorenssen codec thingie? i cant see the b----y previews, why do they send the prewiews three months ahead anyway? ive never seen something like that before, is it common behavior in the US? i want to see Mulan, wonder if its allready here, better take a look, could Zira be the mother of Kovu? my swedish TLK site is somewhat up,, cind of empty still though,

Swedish TLK site

Thanks,
the Panther


Jun 27 - 12:41

Dara

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THANKS alot Kiara-holic!!! That would do, I guess!

I don't mind receiving help on the Net this way, it's not very personal. If it was, I would have given my e-mail adress.

I'll go to your site now! Let's see how to order.
I don't have a credit card, so I'm not sure it will work....

But thanks alot!!!!

Bye!

Dara


Jun 27 - 11:06

Kiara-holic #1

Location: CA
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Dara,


You can order the TLKoB soundtrack CD from my site. It links to Music Boulevard but I may change it to link to amazon.com soon. Either way should be fine. Look in my new merchandise section. The URL is just a couple entries down in the rumor mill here. Of course, you don't have to go through my site to order them. There has never been a case of credit card fraud over the internet reported and it really probably is more secure than paying for something with a credit card at a store or giving a live human person your credit card number over the phone. My brother-in-law, who is in charge of all the internet operations at Florida State University and who wouldn't want to see me become a victim of credit card fraud, told me all this. I'd e-mail this to you but it doesn't look like you left an e-mail address.


Kiara-holic #1 :-)


Jun 27 - 10:54

Dara

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Just a little question...
I would like to order the cd of TLKoB with the original cast members. Yes, I DO have the songs on tape, but I would like to order it.

It's not here anywhere and the cd-stores here don't order it...

My question, where is the savest place on
internet to order this cd???
I've never done this before! I always think it's kinda scary giving my personal info away....

Hope you can help me! Thanx alot!!!!

Bye,

Dara


Jun 27 - 08:16

Amphriss

Location: Boston
E-mail: Amphriss@AOL.com

The zealot that I am, I just spent 1 1/2 hrs trying to download the Magoo preview....Only to find that only 40 seconds of it played.....I'm not sure what happened....Does anyone have a sound-only version of this? With stills from some parts of the preview (esp. Zira asking Kovu about his destiny?) FYI---- on another SP site, I saw something about the name Kovu--- it's Swahilli for "Scar"---- so there must be some sort of connection......And thanks to Lioness for typing out what the preview said.....If I may ramble some more, that same SP link had the tags to the beanie versions of Vitani (male or female??) and Nuka----- both very dopey looking lions, sad cases of inbreeding.....Nuka looks like a paler version of Kovu--- couldn't the character design folks come up with some facial features that set them apart? Vitani is especially unattractive--- those Outlanders sure give a mean Bowl cut. (but to Vitani's credit, his/her ears are cute...)
Any thoughts?


Jun 27 - 05:08

Kiara-holic #1

Location: Cali
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Finally had to take the Mr. Magoo video back after having watched the SP trailer about 35 times and Mr. Magoo once (yeah, I watched it). There's a bunch of new stuff on the website I created for Kiara including a new merchandise section separated from the links section with added stuff too. Also, there's a really super cool 'theater' picture made by Beerit probably exclusively for me since I haven't seen it anywhere else yet. I really like it and all of you will too. Its excellent! Some pics from the Mr. Magoo preview will be appearing soon, too.


Kiara-holic #1


Kiara's Home Page


Jun 26 - 23:43

Jenna
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E-mail: snayle@net-2000.net

Can someone convert the Mr Magoo thing into RealVideo? Please Please Please? If so, E-mail it to me
~~Jenna~~


Jun 26 - 21:07

Redraptor

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I just had a thought..(not sure if this idea has been mentioned before or not..)
but..if Disney say "no" to the idea of Scar being Kovu's father....what about being his GRANDfather?
I mean....Zira looks related to Scar..almost like a daughter...and Zira seems about Simba's age...
What if Scar had a daughter, around the time Mufasa had Simba? And then, Scar's daughter would have Kovu, who is like a spitting image of Scar, yet, has some fullness like Mufasa, and Simba had Kiara about the same time.


Jun 26 - 20:08

Laurie

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Just thinking (bear with me) but that thing about Zira raising Kovu almost makes me think of the Oliver Twist situation. Like you know, how Oliver didn't have parents alive (Kovu?) and was raised by bad guys Fagin and Co. (Zira and pride?). But it's not really in him to be bad. Maybe that's really reaching, but just thought I'd share that thought.
Also, I do see where whoever said it was coming from with the Romeo and Juliet thing.


Jun 26 - 17:29

Alexander

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Kese, you might have a point on the size relationship between Kiara and Pumbaa, But. . .

Adult Kiara looks like she's smaller than Nala. Look at the picture of Kovu roaring at Simba. Nala and Kiara are standing in the background and Kiara looks a bit smaller.

However, I believe there is a possibility that a mistake could have been made.

On another topic, I was at the mall today and heard a mother yell "Kiara!" She wasn't talking about a lion, though. Her daughter's name was Kiara!

Totally off the subject: Found bean bags today of my favorite Aladdin characters (Genie, Abu, Iago) at the Disney Store. Really nicely done.


Jun 26 - 17:17

Lioness

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Kara-
No, Kiara doesnt see Simba in the water. Remember in the May 10th preview, just after Kiara slides down the rock Simba looks at her, raises an eyebrow, and then smiles? Well, when Simba was "in the water" it was that exact scene. There were just a few same scenes as in the May 10th preview.
:P No news here, so BUSA TLK AND SP!!!:)


Jun 26 - 16:26

Kara

Location: The Pride Lands
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I was noticing, in the scene where Kiara is looking into the water, is that adult Kiara looking into a reflection of her childhood past? And when she looks in there, she sees Simba, does that mean Simba will die? I was just thinking again, it's dangerous to my health.
Kara (Kiara)
We Are One


Jun 26 - 14:27

kese

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E-mail: sollarus@erols.com

Crouching down isn't going to make Pumbaa almost tower over Nala. Look at the pic at the front section of this page and then look at the Pumbaa/Nala chase scene in TLK. There's a major discrepency there. It's not a trick of the eyes, it looks like a mistake.


Jun 26 - 13:42

Nala

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Yeah!!! Footage on Mr. Magooo! Gonna go rent it now! So excited. I just got kicked off this computer sooo gotta go! Sorry for bad spelling!


IMPORTANT NEWS:::: YOU CAN PRERESERVE SP AT SUNCOAST!! Ya know the movie store!!!

AGH!! BYE!!!!


Jun 26 - 13:34

Alexander

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Cold Dragon, I see the similarities you are talking about comparing "Romeo and Juliet" and "Simba's Pride." And Yes, Disney DID say at one point that "The Lion King" was loosely based on "Hamlet." When The Lion King was in production, they used to say this at the animation studio tour at the Disney MGM Studios in Florida.

Just from the new previews of SP, I'm reminded also of "The Fox and the Hound." It looks like Simba and Zira forced them to separate when they were young, especially when Simba picks up Kiara and takes her away and Zira picks up Kovu.


Jun 26 - 13:32

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland,USA
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Kese
I think Pumbaa looked bigger because Nala was crowched down ready to spring at Zira.

Just a thought


Jun 26 - 13:05

Kese

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E-mail: sollarus@erols.com

One other thing, in the preview why is Pumbaa almost as big if not bigger than Nala? He wasn't that big in TLK. A little bit of a goof up?


Jun 26 - 12:11

Dara

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I think it's the time by now to download THIS sequel... it's sounds soooooooooo coooooooool!!! (I did she the other preview of the 10th of May, but I thought it looked rather sweet)

I started to think when Simba says this phrase...
Simba to Kovu:

"You were banished with the other outsiders!"

What if Scar HAD loyal subjects in his "pride"?
What if there were rogue lionesses who seeked shelter in the Pride Lands. (not that it was such a save haven) Maybe these lionesses thought this pride was unbeatable with lions and hyena's working together and therefore would be safe to raise their cubs. They did believe in Scar's dreams.

Of course by being loyal to Scar, Simba had to banish them. If this all should be true.......
then there IS a possibility that Kovu WOULD be Scar's son!........ Just a thought...

I love the pic where Zira pics up young Kovu!!! He's soooooooo cute there!!!

O.k. Blue Lion, I'm going to check your pics!!

Bye,

Dara!!!!


Jun 26 - 11:00

Cold Dragon

Location: maryland,USA
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Sorry my finger slipped, I was not done writing yet. Anyway......

I DON"T see the first two happening. I also don't see the third as likely possabilitys.
Kovu may be able to prove himself in some way, say like helping Simba drive away the other pride.
Most likely (in my mind) would be that Kiara and Kovu run away together, how and why they come back I don't know I am just basing this on the two previews I have seen. Proably Rifiki brings Kiara back, hence the scean where she is walking down the line of lionesses and rubs heads with Nala.

Well just some thoughts rolling in my head finding a way out :)


Jun 26 - 10:07

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland,USA
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I am apreantly to excited about this to put all my thoughts together coherintly. Oh here I go again, hope no oen minds

I said long ago when the May 10th preview came out that I thought Kiara was roaring because she was returning home with Kovu after running away.
I still think this is true and now I think there is more to back up this idea. In the preview there is a part where Kiara is hunting antalope and they stampede. It does not show the other lionesses. Since this type of antalope is a large prey species you would think Kiara would have help from the other lionesses on the hunt, but she does not, odd. I think this because she is off on her own, there by no other lionesses.
I also think that there is no way Simba/Zira would let Kiara and Kovu be together. So the only way that will happen is eather that the parents ( or what ever Zira is ) for give and forget, Kovu or Nuka beats Simba and becomes ruler of the Pridelands, or if Kiara can convince Simba that Kovu is good.
I DON"T see the first


Jun 26 - 10:01

elyse

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pleeeeeeeeeeease don't bite my head off, but......
....... i think zira & nala's eyes are kinda similar.
REMEMBER KILL THE POOH!! not me.
^ ^
*
\_/ ~~elyse


Jun 26 - 09:50

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland,USA
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Alexander
No I am not color blind. But it still looks black to me, it may be the way my computer tints things. I don't think this is worth arguing about, but I don't mind loud discussions :)

On another note
I remeber reading at many places that TLK was partly based on Shakpear's Hamlet. From what I know of Hamlet ( not to much, I must admit but I have talked to people who do know it and say they agree) this seems valid. I wonder if anyone thinks Disney is now drawing from another Shakespear book Romeo and Juliet. I have read this one and see some connections. It may just be that any kind of " keep the kids apart because we don't like the other family" story brings that up.
If anyone has an oppinion on this feel free to state it, i am sure you will :)

Just a few of my thoughts :)


Jun 26 - 09:44

Kese

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Sorry, my bad, but the expression on his face does look kind of dumb;)
On Zira, you know if anyone looks like a spawn of Scar it's her. Same everything, except lighter in color and no mane and instead of a scar she has a notch in her ear. Very strange for Disney to design her like that. You would think we would have noticed such an unsual looking lioness in the original TLK. I'm assuming she must have been part of the pride at some point due to Simba's saying they were banished.


Jun 26 - 09:29

Alexander

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Kese, that's Kovu in the scene you are talking about (in which Zira leaps in front of him and roars at Simba). It is not Nuka. I would describe Kovu's face in that scene as "horrified" and not "stupid."

Plus, Nuka is much lighter in color. Nuka isn't in the new trailer.


Jun 26 - 09:20

Blue Lion
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I have 9 more images from the preview on my site, I had to hide them because my site is going commercial soon and this way it's eaiser to braek the link when I sign my deal. Anyway, they are easy to find... in the lion page on my site go to the Lion & hyena section and click on the image of the hyenas fighting Simba off Scar, that should take you there. Thanks again!

In regards to the Pooh:
(Mulan): "I'll hold , you punch!"


Jun 26 - 09:15

Kese

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E-mail: sollarus@erols.com

Did anyone else notice what looked like Nuka in the preview. Look for the stupid looking lion with the brown tuft standing behind Zira as she pounces up to Simba.


Jun 26 - 09:14

Alexander

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Cold Dragon, forgive me for asking this, but are you color blind? Adult Kovu's mane is not the same color as Scar's.

All the screen grabs of Adult Kovu show that his mane is dark brown, not jet black like Scar's: A good example is the shot of Kiara and Kovu on the cliff against a blue sky background. Kovu's mane is not against a dark background there and his mane is brown (granted, it is REALLY dark brown, but still brown).

I know this a silly arguement to have, and I'm sorry.


Jun 26 - 09:14

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland,USA
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I just finished watching the SP preview for the oh about 20th time now so here is my impression.

I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!! I AM NOW MORE EXCIRED ABOUT THIS THEN I THOUGHT POSSABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On a more coherint note I think the soul of the TLK charictors is in the eyes. There personality is there.
Along those lines Zira is one of the most evil charictors Disney has ever made. Her eyes look apsolutly unhealthy and insain. On a diffrent note Kovu's eyes look alot better. His eyes may be colored like Scar's but they are more like a "good" lions eyes. Scar had a very small pupal (black part) and the color green around it was also very small. Kovu's pupal looks alot bigger and so does the green part, compared to Scar's.
This makes Kovu look like a nicer charictor.

Just my thoughts :)


Jun 26 - 09:05

Hong Kong Phooey

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Matthew Kusiak, no, I didn't think that the adult Kovu from the brochure looked "cute and cuddly." The brochure picture looks exactly the same as the way Kovu looks in the "Simba's Pride" movie.

I guess the brochure did make him look a bit more friendly------but Kovu isn't supposed to be mean in the entire movie.

I suppose you could compare this situation to a picture of Donald Duck. Donald is often shown to be nice and friendly on merchandise and promotional stuff and then in the actual cartoons he can be short-tempered and nasty.

I don't mean to jump on your case or anything Matthew. I'm just throwing my 2 cents in!


Jun 26 - 08:46

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland,USA
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AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
I just can't stop doing that sorry, I am so excited. Did I chose a bad day to not come here or what! Oh well I'll just make up for lost time.

Let me just add my thanks to BlueLion for the screan grabs, I would of exploded by now if I had not seen something from the new preview. Hope to chat with you tonight :)

As I type I am down loading two versions of the latest preview ( thanks KidSimba for putting them on your sight) and calling all my local vid stores to find Mr. Magoo.

I agree that Zira does look a lot like Scar. At the same time she looks ruthless, cunning, and at the same time quite insain, Cool !

I love the fact that the "to scary for kids" vionlence seems to be left in SP.

I don't agree that Kovu's mane is brown. I think it is black and that since the back round was so dark they added brown hilights so that it would not blend in to much. They did the same thing in TLK with Scars mane. they added brown in the stamped sequances, and green or purple during the Be Prepared sequance.
I do love the way Kovu's mane flops forward in the front. It gives him a kind of scragly youthful appearance.

Just a few thoughts for now :)


Jun 26 - 08:20

Krazy Kat

Location: USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

I don't have much to say today, since I haven't seen the SP Magoo trailer yet (Am I the only one? =( ) and I was wondering if someone could make an audio of it?? Particularly a Wav.....???

~Krazy Kat~

#LET SIMBA KILL POOH#


Jun 26 - 06:38

Tau

Location: Philly!
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Just saw the SP trailer from the Magoo video (downloaded version of course) and I only have one word: Incredible! I'd have to agree with anyone who says that Zira looks like Scar, she's a carbon copy of him (minus the mane). At least now we know why Kovu looks a wee bit like Scar. And as for the voice at the end saying ominously "we are one", that is most difinitely the voice of James Earl Jones, aka Mufasa, but I have to go with Lioness here, bringing him back as a ghost twice kind of makes the scene lose something. One last thing: By total coincidence I just happened to watch Return of Jafar with my younger cousins the day before I downloaded the SP trailer, and there is absolutely no contest (even without having seen the entire SP movie) as to which one is better.
That's all (hope I didn't bore anyone too much).

Go Lion King! (And Simba's Pride)


Jun 26 - 06:06

Lioness

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I was just thinking, you think that Disney will make Simba's Pride cards? I like to collect TLK stuff, so when the movie comes out, well, I was just wondering. I dont think they made cards to the Aladdin sequals, but I hope they do for SP.


Jun 26 - 05:41

Lioness

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i just watched the preview again, and actually that voice at the end does sound kinda like Mufasa. But if it is him, why would he be saying that? I mean, we aleady had him come back after he was dead and it would stink if it happened again. But dont get me wrong, I like that part in the movie, but twice would be a bit too much- dont you think? I wouldnt think anybody would say that besides Simba, but it doesnt sound like him at all. Wierd, huh? I guess we probably wont know until the movie comes out!


Jun 26 - 05:02

Matthew Kusiak

Location: Macomb, MI
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Gosh, the adult Kovu actually looks decent.

Wasn't anybody else disturbed by how "cute and cuddly" big Kovu looked in the brochure illustration and its fan-colored versions?


Jun 25 - 20:42

Kara, KIARA fan

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At the ending, when someone says, We Are One, I know no one wants to think of this, but that could be Simba's ghost, a little older, and a deeper voice. I know this would mean Simba would have to die, but it could be of old age? Either that, or he's saying it to her from behind. Or it could be a voiceover again! I was just thinking this because in the Lion King, after Mufasa died, all Mufasa did was repeat to Simba about the circle of life. Maybe in Simba's Pride, the main theme is We Are One. Or, the person could be Kovu from behind. Why would it be Mufasa, he didn't even meet Kiara. Maybe it's a voice over of Mufasa's ghost to Simba, and that's where Simba got the idea to sing to Kiara about We Are One. I don't know, I'm just thinking...
Kara (Kiara)
P.S. Could someone do the audio of the preview soon? I would love to here it!


Jun 25 - 20:10

Lioness

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Alexander-
ya, I noticed. But i think the voice is too deep to be Mufasa's.
anyways, Disney is tormenting all us TLK fans! why couldnt they have waited another month b4 showing us?
I think Zira and Kovu are gonna be my favorite characters. No new info here, so I'll go now. :)


Jun 25 - 19:57

Alexander

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Lioness, it IS Mufasa saying "We Are One" at the end of the trailer.

By the way, did anyone notice that, in the scene with Simba and Zazu, Kovu was following Simba?


Jun 25 - 18:14

Lioness

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at the end if the preview there is a voice saying "we are one" Does anybody know who says it? It doesnt sound like Mufasa, but it is a deep voice. Any suggestions?


Jun 25 - 16:36

Krazy Kat

Location: USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

TLKFan, I think SP will be pretty good, but I don't think it will ever be as good as TLK. Most Disney sequels didn't even halfway add up to the original, much less better than. But,then, we'll have to wait and see....

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 25 - 16:24

TLKFan

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I saw the preview!! SP looks so COOL!!! :DDDD I can't wait till it comes out!!! Zira looks like a cool villain, yet she looks like Scar without the mane and scar. Hmm, I wonder if there will be an Adult Vitani and Adult Nuka...or will they just show them as cubs and then they are 'gone'? Guess we'll have to wait and see :) It DEFINETLY looks like it's gonna be as good as TLK...perhaps even BETTER!! :D
BTW--at that end of the clip if I'm not mistaken wasn't that Mufas'as voice saying "We are one.."?


Jun 25 - 16:17

Kidsimba@juno.com

Location: Kidsimba's Pridelands
E-mail: kidsimba@juno.com

Just another note for those downloading the Quick time clip, you will need QT 3.0 with the sorenson CODEC to play it, it WILL NOT play with out it. (I've had a few E-mails on this and figured it's be easier to post here.)

Thanks again and enjoy the clips!
K.S.
>^..^<


Jun 25 - 14:16

elyse

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Kidsimba- Hey! El Dorado Hills huh? I thought I was the only fan in Sac. It's pretty cool that I'm not though. I live in N.Sac off I-80. E-mail me sometime.
~elyse


Jun 25 - 14:12

Lace again

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Oh yeah, and, for people who HATE Pooh, well, he sux!!!

Kill Pooh!
Kill Pooh!

LOL

Sorry, Brian, for my langauge!

LOL

bye


Jun 25 - 14:01

Lace

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Oh, gosh! Zira looks so cool!! Adult Kovu looks cool too! Great pics!

I'm downloading the SP preview from Mr. Magoo now; I'm so zealous now and I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT!!!

sorry for the caps, Brian....

cya!


Jun 25 - 13:56

Kidsimba

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The mpeg clip is finally uploaded, looks really good and is a lot smaller (6 megs) for those who have modems. :)


Jun 25 - 13:52

Krazy Kat

Location: USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Alexander,
I agree that SP will probably be the best sequel to an animated feature yet. I have not seen the new SP trailer but I have seen plenty of pics from it and Zira, A. Kovu and A. Kiara look cool! I saw the trailer for the Pocahontas sequel on my Hercules tape (??) not sure. It Looks dreadful! The animation is very flat and uninspired! Yuecghk!!!!

~Krazy Kat~
Adult-Simba-Holic
Saffy-Holic
Sassy-Holic


Jun 25 - 13:40

Alexander

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Finally got my hands on a copy of Mr. Magoo! It feels strange that I have no intentions of watching Mr. Magoo, but oh well!

The SP trailer is WONDERFUL!! So much better than the ABC one. I wish the preview had been a few minutes longer, but I guess they don't want to give too much away.

It seems like they ARE aiming the movie at EVERYONE not just kids. I'm very glad. I was seriously afraid of what it would be like, but there seems to be plenty of confrontation from a variety of places: Kovu and Kiara's friendship, the threat of Zira, etc.

I LOVE ZIRA! I thought the pictures themselves of her were great, but the part where she asks Kovu "What is your destiny?" was incredible!!

I actually wanted to buy Mr. Magoo just for the trailer, but I'll wait until another animated feature is put on video. I'm sure that we'll be seeing more of this trailer.

My God----that Pocahontas Sequel looked AWFUL!!! They obviously spent far less money on the Poca Sequel, which looks almost like "The Return of Jafar." Thank God Disney decided they better not screw up "The Lion King" too much, since it is their biggest cash cow so far. At the very least, "Simba's Pride" looks far superior, production wise (and no doubt story-wise) than the Poca sequel.


Jun 25 - 13:33

Kidsimba

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QT is now up, wo-who! :) still waiting on the mpeg...


Jun 25 - 13:03

Kidsimba

Location: Kidsimba's Pridelands
E-mail: kidsimba@juno.com

For all those who are trying to download the movies, please be patient, I'm FTP'ing them right now, but the connection is slow. 30 more minutes or so and we should be OK. :)


Jun 25 - 12:21

lioness again

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oops i messed up!!! at the very end adult Kiara ROARs. ok> :P sorry I wrote so much, but hope you enjoy!!


Jun 25 - 12:17

Lioness

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I saw it!!!!!the preview!!Its sooooooo awsome!!!
ok, heres what it says:

(he lives in you plays in the background)
Simba- "we are a part of each other"
(then they show kovu and kiara-in he pics BlueLion sent in)
Kovu- "my name is Kovu"
Kiara- "i'm Kiara"

(then they show the alligator snapping at kovu and kiara and pumbaa jumps in the water yelling...)
Pumbaa- "dont worry Kiara, ol' Pumbaa's coming!"

(then they show simba and kiara standing on the fallen log, where in the may 10th preview simba sings "tears of pain tears of joy...")
Simba- "One day I won't be here and I need you to carry on in my place"

(Then they show Zira and Simba talking and they each take away their cubs)
Zira- "These lands belong to SCAR!"
Simba- "Get Out."

(zira to Kovu...)
Zira- "what is your destiny?"
Kovu- "I will avenge Scar"

(Then they show Simba talking to Kovu-teeth beared)
Simba- "You were banished with the other outsiders!"

(then theres a strange voice that I don recognize, saying..)
"we are one"

(then they show a lioness, maybe adult Kiara, walk down Pride Rock. the same scene in the may 10th)

(then they show adult Kiara)
adult Kiara-

then The Lion King II Simbas Pride flashes on the screen and words flash saying Only to video October 27, 1998.

well thats about it! cool, huh?


Jun 25 - 12:12

Kidsimba

Location: Kidsimba's Pridelands
E-mail: kidsimba@juno.com

To Elyse,
I live in Sactown too, well El Dorado Hills... Where are you at?


Jun 25 - 11:59

Kidsimba

Location: Kidsimba's Pridelands
E-mail: kidsimba@juno.com

The mpeg and QT 3.0 clips are up, hope everyone enjoys them, 6 megs for the mpeg, 10 for the QT


Kidsimba's Pridelands


simba.jpg (8190 bytes)




Jun 25 - 11:56

Dara
Not been so EXITED yet!!!!!!
Location:
E-mail:

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

AWSOME!! THOSE PICS ARE GREAT!!!!!!!!!
MAKE MORE MAKE MORE!!!

......... o.k. o.k. I'm calm now.....

Thanks Blue Lion! Love ya!!

Zira didn't look like I expected, but she's SUPER!! Anything but a beautiful lioness.
She rough, smoothe and has eyes wich are about to kill ya!!!! WOW! Looking at the pics tells me one thing:

"HOPEFULLY SP WILL BE AS EXCITING AS THE PICS!!"

I think it will be darker than TLK... with more hatred and violence in it. In other words, the movie will be great, with a good story. (or maybe it's just what I hope for....) Well, it doesn't look very childish, what do you guys think?!
Obviously it isn't going to be sugar sweet, thank Ahieu!!


Mmmm, Shenzi, I don't get it, Why you can't download the chronicles. Have you tried to download other stories for a try? You don't have a e-mail adress is it? No, librairy's don't have one. Don't you have a friend with e-mail? You could ask Brian if he could send the Chronicle story to him or her?? Just for now? Maybe Brian will know what's wrong or any other person here?

Kristen, I didn't realize too about Timon dress in drag.

Blue Lion, Zira could indeed be Scar's sister.
But that will explain why Kovu is still looking like Scar.. It's in the family you know. But if Zira is Scar's sister then she's Mufasa's sister too!
More often is Disney in the nieces and nephews, that could explain it too.

Krazy Kat, maybe Sarafina has just an even 'impressive' text as in TLK. Maybe she will be on screen for about 10 sec. to say one phrase.... But hopefully not.

Alright, alright guys.... Pooh has just died a thousend times by now I guess. (Well, I like it anyway). By the way Shenzi, of course Pooh is too tough and gamey.... to much disgusting bacon!
But I bet YOU don't mind! (have a nice dinner.....)

See ya all!!!

SP RULES!!! CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT!!!

-Dara-

# And were the journey.. may lead me,
Simba's Pride... is in my mind...#


Jun 25 - 11:14

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Caltech
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

Actually, it's "champing" at the bit... that word is an archaic form of "chomping", but that's neither here nor there.


Jun 25 - 11:01

Kiara-holic #1

Location: California
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Just saw the Mr. Magoo SP trailer last night and watched it about 15 times. My brother, who is 10 years younger than me, and who likes Lion King but not as passionately as I do, said he thought it looked like Zira was hypnotizing Kovu. That's why he looked like he was "reading from a script." This has happened in Disney movies before like when Jafar did it to the sultan, and Kaa did it to Mowgli. My brother thought the Pocahontas sequel looked lame but that the TLK sequel looked like it might be the first good Disney sequel. It was just good to get the opinion of someone who is not quite so involved like we are.


Kiara-holic #1


We Are One


P.S. I like Pooh, but that doesn't mean I think they should get rid of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.


Kiara's Sahifa (Home Page)


Jun 25 - 10:55

Kris
SP fan already!
Location:
E-mail:

Hey people!

Blue Lion, those pics are just sooooo cool!
I can't wait to see SP; I can't wait to see the preview!
Will someone make a QuickTime version of it?
Please?

We are one!
Hakuna Matata.
Busa Simba, Kiara and the rest of the pride!
Oh, yes and:
#HATE THE POOH!#

-Kris.


Jun 25 - 09:30

Krazy Kat

Location: USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Oops! I almost forgot!

#BAN THE POOH#

#HATE THE POOH#

#KILL THE POOH#

#STAB THE POOH WITH BLUNT OBJECTS AND LET HIM SUFFER AND DIE SLOWLY. (His last words would probably be "Oh Bother")#

Live On Lion King!!!!
~Krazy Kat~


Jun 25 - 09:21

Krazy Kat

Location: USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

About Simba becoming Mufasa-Like, I agree, but a lot of Simba's characteristics stayed the same. Like his cute little smile. And I think his eyes and the shape of his mane stayed the same. I don't mind Simba becoming more like Mufasa and Sarabi, it just shows that the character is affected by time, unlike other cartoon characters (i.e: wears the same clothes every day, never grauates to the next grade level in school...)

I agree that Zira looks like a cross between Nala ans Scar. I know that Sarabi isn't going to be in the sequel (STUPID STUPID DISNEY!!! Aside from being an Adult Simba freak and a Sarafina fan, I'm also a Sassy-Holic. =)) but has anyone seen Sarafina anywhere? I'm pretty sure she's going to be in it, but I don't think I've seen her in any pics yet...

Just-a-wonderin' ,
Krazy Kat
Big Simba Holic
Sassy Holic
Saffy Holic


Jun 25 - 09:17

elyse

Location: sacramento, ca
E-mail: elysemize@lycosmail.com

OCTOBER IS NEVER GOING TO GET HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The pictures are great! I think Zira looks like a cross between Nala & Scar. I can't wait much longer for the movie. I think I'm going to burst!!

I cannot believe it's already been four years since TLK. I didn't get a chance to use the computer yesterday, so happy belated birthday. I also saw it on opening day, first showing (& 13 times in the theatre after that). I saw it opening day first showing of the re-release too. I absolutely love TLK. The first time I saw it I was in Port Angeles Washington & the theater had paw print stickers going down the aisle, so of course I had to grab one for a souveneir. I still have that sticker. Just thought I'd share that.
~~elyse


Jun 25 - 08:56

Alexander

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Blue Lion, I thought the very same thing about Zira-----she looks very much like Scar. I think she looks more like Scar than Kovu does. Could she be related to Scar? I doubt it, but I guess anything is possible. I think maybe all the "Scar followers" who have been banished from the Pridelands probably have "Scar-like" traits.

I still haven't seen this new trailer, but does anyone else think that Disney seems to now be taking the "Mulan" approach to marketing "Simba's Pride" with this more "adult" trailer? (I'm only going by the new pictures, I haven't seen the full trailer) What they are now showing looks very different from the "We Are One" stuff they showed on ABC (showing primarily Young Kiara). In fact, THIS is the kind of stuff I was hoping they would have shown on ABC! It looks like there will be some good conflicts in SP. YEAH!

I'm really excited about Zira! She looks tough, mean, and slightly insane!!! She looks totally ruthless-----I CAN'T WAIT!


Jun 25 - 08:34

Lioness

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Ducky-
the preview does say stuff! I havent seen it but BlueLion told us about it on the chat room last night! It sounds really cool, so I'm gonna get the movie today just to watch the preview!!

BlueLion-
will you PLEAZ write here on the mill what is says on the preview?

Now I'm 1000 times more excited to see SP!!!!!!!!!!
BUSA SIMBA!


Jun 25 - 08:31

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: taylor6@Ix.netcom.com

Last night was the Release date of Lion King and durining the peak hours <8Pm CST> The chat room had 13 chatters at once and over 20 chatters pass through. It was a record breaking night. Can we do it again on the Fifth anniversarry, See you their on June 24, 1999, when we celebrate FIVE YEARS OF THE LION KING. :) ;)


Jun 25 - 08:27

Parmjeet Mandair

Location: http://members.xoom.com/Parmy/making.htm
E-mail: 9700152@mail.tilehill.ac.uk

Can you Fans who have a web pages for put in my web page too


And Simba's Pride is going to be the best video I have seen


By Parmjeet Mandair


Jun 25 - 08:22

Laurie

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*gasp* Someone give me a paper bag, quick! I can't breathe! :) Those pics are amazing! Kovu is so great, and Kiara, and all of them! Everyone's said it, but great job Blue Lion. I'm so surprised and excited, this animation is actually looking really good, and the story doesn't look bad right now either!


Jun 25 - 08:19

Blue Lion

Location:
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org

Thanks again for all the compliments about the pics! I sent a whole bunch because everyone was excitied about it. Just doing my little bit to help my fellow fans.

I agree that Simba does look more like Mufasa, it thikn it's supposed to illustrate how much he grows through SP in his should we say 'foriegn relations' problems and having to deal with it.

IMHO, Zira could pass for Scar's sister.. she looks like him. I'm not sure who Vitani and Nuka belong to, but they kind of look like her to. Then again, that seems to mean nothing to Disney, Kovu still looks like Scar even though he's not supposed to be his son. I guess they're too busy with Pooh to realize that.


Jun 25 - 08:09

Alexander

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Blue Lion, you might be sick of hearing this, but thanks again for the new pics!!! I just saw them this morning. I am so excited about SP now. Just from the pics, it looks like the movie will be great.

Just a comment----Simba's new "Mufasa look" really shines in those pics of him encountering Kovu and Zira. It is true though---- You do turn in to your parents (like it or not!!).

Zira and Kovu are wonderful! Now the only characters who remain something of a mystery are Adult Vitani and Nuka.


Jun 25 - 06:44

Ducky

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Kidsimba- is the preview on Mr Magoo a preview for sp? if it is than is it a new preview that achually says stuff or one like the timon and pumbaa preview?


Jun 25 - 06:10

Kidsimba

Location: Kidsimba's Pridelands
E-mail: kidsimba@juno.com

Just captured the Mr. Magoo preview and will have it posted tomorrow after noon. There will be a QT sorenson version and a smaller mpeg version than that found on lk.org for those slower modems.

Kidsimba's Pridelands



Jun 24 - 23:53

Kristen Goldhork

Location: Pride Lands
E-mail: Animorph86@yahoo.com

See, what happened to me was a wave of Lion King cravings. I was looking at the stars one night and saying stuff like i would love it if they made a sequal.... and then BAM! I saw they were and wnt balistic! Also, when Simba needs to distract the Hyena's and Timon is there, Timon says, "What do you want me to do? Dress in drag and do the hula?" I didn't relieze at the time but "drag" means dress like a female.....

-Kristen


Jun 24 - 23:20

Snowy

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Thought that I'd add to the long list of compliments: GREAT captures, Blue Lion. Just a question, can anyone make a Quicktime or something type of file out of the new preview for those who can't see it....and for those of us whose family members returned the rented copy of Mr. Magoo before the resident TLK fan could have their fill? Again, Blue Lion, great job, can't wait to see (and print) more pics!


Jun 24 - 21:41

Blue Lion

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Never thought I'd get this big a reaction.. I'm sending 10 more pics.. that should be it

jenna, TLKoB = The Lion King on Broadway

Thanls again for the compliments guys! I'm going to give a little credit to Blockbuster and that wonderful little thing we call Snappy!!

We Are One


Jun 24 - 21:21

jenna

Location:
E-mail: snayle@net-2000.net

What does TLKoB mean? I haven't been here in a long time. Help!


Jun 24 - 21:08

Krazy Kat

Location: USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Once again, Blue Lion, GREAT captures! I really like the Kovu and Simba, and the Zira and Simba 'face to face' pics. Good job!!!

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 24 - 20:31

Kiara-holic #1

Location: California
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Happy Birthday Lion King! Just wanted to add here that I saw TLK on the very first day it came out, very first showing even, and that's the only Disney movie I've ever done that with. Looking forward to seeing the SP Magoo trailer. Hopefully tonight. Once again, I have extremely limited internet access over the summer but will still be going to great lengths to maintain my site, it may just be a tad slower.


Kiara-holic #1 aka Christian Z.


Kiara's Website




P.S. BTW, its "chomping" at the bit, not "chopping."
Jun 24 - 20:12

Blue Lion

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Awww.. thanks guys! I just sent six more! gotta get back to chat! Just happy to help my fellow fans!


Jun 24 - 19:26

Alexander

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Snowy, sorry for doubting you! Obviously the Blockbuster I went to didn't have their act together, since they didn't have Mr. Magoo yet. I'm excited about looking for it tomorrow!

Blue Lion, thank you for the pictures!!!! Zira looks awesome, and so do adult Kovu and Kiara.

Someone asked a while back why the Kovu bean bag from the Disney Store had a brown mane instead of a black one. We know the answer-----because his mane IS brown!! Dark brown, not quite the jet black mane Scar had.

Looking forward to more pics and seeing the trailer!!!!!!!!!!!


Jun 24 - 19:13

Krazy Kat

Location: USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@Aol.com

Blue Lion, GREAT job in capturing those pics of Adult Kovu and Kiara and Zira. Zira looks cool, but she has more of a 'saturday morning cartton' kind of drawing. But I guess that's just one pic, and not all of 'em look like that. HEY EVERYONE!! GET SOME MORE IMAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry For Shouting.

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 24 - 18:44

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Caltech
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

The two pics sent me by Blue Lion are posted in the general SP section of this site. You can get to it using the "SP Multimedia Section" link above, or directly. They're at the bottom of the column of images along the right-hand side.

Many thanks, Blue Lion! :)


Jun 24 - 18:31

Neema

Location:
E-mail: neema@lionking.org

*blushes* Oops. Sorry about postin' twice.


Jun 24 - 18:26

Neema

Location:
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Welp -- I dragged my mother into taking me to Blockbuster; and I got Mr. Magoo. One thing to say:

I CAN'T WAIT!

Here's my description of Zira(Well, how I'd write it; writer's point of view) -- if anyone cares. :)

Zira
Dark, touseled fur hangs over her lank form -- a tanned tawny -- and it is obvious this lioness is a nomad. An ear is tattered, literally hanging from her oval head. Her eyes are always narrowed, glossed in apathy; irises tinted a dulled copper.


Short, but oh well. :) Anyway, the preview was awesome.


See ya,


Neema.
Jun 24 - 18:25

Neema

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Welp -- I dragged my mother into taking me to Blockbuster; and I got Mr. Magoo. One thing to say:

I CAN'T WAIT!

Here's my description of Zira(Well, how I'd write it; writer's point of view) -- if anyone cares. :)

Zira
Dark, touseled fur hangs over her lank form -- a tanned tawny -- and it is obvious this lioness is a nomad. An ear is tattered, literally hanging from her oval head. Her eyes are always narrowed, glossed in apathy; irises tinted a dulled copper.


Short, but oh well. :) Anyway, the preview was awesome.


See ya,


Neema.
Jun 24 - 18:25

Alexander

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What gives? I was so excited that I went to Blockbuster to get Mr. Magoo, only to not find a TRACE of the movie! I even asked the people that worked there----they didn't have it!!!! They looked on their computer and found the Mr. Magoo cartoons, but NOT the Leslie Nielsen one!!!!

Snowy, you aren't snowing us are you?


Jun 24 - 18:08

Blue Lion

Location: Ann Arbor
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org

First off, I just mailed the Zira and Adult Kovu pics to Brian.. it says he's logged on now, but I don't know if he'll do anything with 'em yet.

Krazy Kat.. thanks, now I understand.. I thought everyone was out to get Pooh because they're so sick of him like me!:) The Disnay catelogue is almost all Pooh and it's starting to BUG me!


Jun 24 - 18:07

Lioness

Location:
E-mail:

I just want to say one thing.....
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LION KING!!!! :)


Jun 24 - 18:00

Krazy Kat

Location: USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@Aol.com

Blue Lion,

The 'Killing Of The Pooh' is about how they are going to take away 'Mr. Toad's Wild Ride' out of Walt Disney World, to put a cutey-pattotey Pooh Ride. Oooh, How STUPID!! I'm getting really sick of Pooh...

#BAN THE POOH#
#HATE THE POOH#
#KILL THE POOH#


Jun 24 - 17:52

BlueLion
going to blockbuster
Location: Ann Arbor
E-mail:

J Falk.. I have to disagree on your Mulan opinion, I thought it was equal to TLK! (just my opinion:)

What's all this about killing the Pooh? (not that I mind) Just curious how it started..

Last and certantly not least.. I'm leaving now for Blockbuster and yes I DO have a Snappy. I'll see what I can do.. gotta go!

"The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare of all"


Jun 24 - 17:29

shenzi

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sorry the message posted twice.


Jun 24 - 17:13

shenzi

Location:
E-mail:

dara, i still can't download any of the chronical stories. i tried getting them from ryan's lion and couldn't download them there eighter. when i tried to download them a message came on the screen about the path being corrupted or invalid. huh ???? i'm sooooo confused and i am afraid i'll never get to read about uzuri.


Jun 24 - 17:13

shenzi

Location:
E-mail:

dara, i still can't download any of the chronical stories. i tried getting them from ryan's lion and couldn't download them there eighter. when i tried to download them a message came on the screen about the path being corrupted or invalid. huh ???? i'm sooooo confused and i am afraid i'll never get to read about uzuri.


Jun 24 - 17:13

shenzi

Location: long island
E-mail:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LION KING !!!!!!!! zira sounds like she looks feirce and she definetly has a different look than any other tlk lioness ! cool, now i can't wait to see what nuka and vitani look like. it would be so sad if kovu and kiara broke off their relationship. i hope simba's banishment of kovu doesn't tear them apart. i don't have much else to say. my stomachs on the growl and i'm chompin at the bit baby ( hmmm how about some POOH for supper, or would he be too tough and gamey....... ).anyway BEAT THE POOH WITH A HIGH HEALED SHOE and although i cannot stay here my family, i will remember my pride. nala, in Shadowlands. Hakuna Matata everyone !!!!


Jun 24 - 16:36

Dara
TOO excited!!
Location:
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WAAAAH!!! Snowy, are you kiddin?!!! We don't have Mr. Magoo in the cinema's yet!!! Do you guys already have it on tape?? (it's the movie with the comedian Leslie Nielsen isn't it?)
I don't think they'll have a previeuw in cinema.

PLEAASSEEEEEE!!! MAKE SOME PICTURES OF ZIRA AND ADULT KOVU!!! I'VE GOT TO SEE THEM!!!

*Bye!!!*

.... a very impatience Dara!!


Jun 24 - 14:42

Alexander

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Someone, please go get Mr. Magoo and make screen-grabs of the new SP trailer!! I don't have the time right now to go rent Mr. Magoo!! AAAAUUUGHH!!! I can't wait!!


Jun 24 - 14:27

Kara, Kiara fan once again

Location:
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Nala, I'm sorry, but I don't have an e-mail address, sorry again. But thank you for the compliments! On another note, I went to Blockbusters this afternoon, and they were advertiseing Simba's Pride there. You can put 5 down to reserve a copy. I am going to their webpage to see if there's anything about Simba' Pride. Well, that's all. I'm so excited about the new preivew! I can't wait till the web pages have pictures of it!!!!
We Are One Kara (Kiara)
P.S. HAPPY 4TH BIRTHDAY LION KING!!!!


Jun 24 - 14:17

Snowy

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Sorry that I just won't shut up, but just in case you're all thinkin' that I just told you the entire preview, I didn't. There is still a lot more that I didn't say. So go out there and rent Mr. Magoo to see that preview RIGHT NOW!!

I'm just going to get off the net now so that I won't keep on posting messages ;)


Jun 24 - 14:12

Snowy

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OK, I've calmed down a bit, so I'll say a little bit more about what's on that SP preview on Mr. Magoo. At one point, Zira asks adult Kovu, "What is your destiny?" He replies (actually, he looks more like he's reciting something), "I will avenge Scar." And for all of you so worried about the possibility of incest, I don't think it will happen. One scene shows Simba and adult Kovu facing off, and Nala and adult Kiara in the background. Simba tells Kovu, "You were banished with the rest of the Outsiders." If you ask me, Simba and Nala stumbled across (or maybe were told by Zazu) Kovu and Kiara and decided to break it up right then and there. There's also a scene where, I think it was adult Kiara, and she's lookin' off into the sunset and you hear Mufasa's voice saying "We are one." And finally, to clear up the debate about the roaring lioness and the lion on the hill from the May 10 preview, it is adult Kovu and Kiara, you get a very nice close-up of the two at the end of the preview.
That's it for now. I'd better sit down before I hurt myself.
Just one more thing, actually:
YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!! WOO-HOOO!!!!! etc.


Jun 24 - 14:10

Snowy

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BIG NEWS! THERE IS AN SP PREVIEW ON MR. MAGOO! A NEW PREVIEW WITH NEW SCENES! THERE ARE PICS OF ADULT KOVU AND ZIRA! THAT NEW VILLAINESS LOOKS SO COOL! SHE HAS SCAR'S NOSE, THAT SAME REDISH COLOR FOR HER EYES THAT SIMBA HAS, THIS PALISH COAT THAT LOOKS NOTHIN' LIKE SCAR'S AND THIS NOTCH IN HER LEFT EAR THAT GIVES HER THIS REALLY FIERCE LOOK!!! IT'S SO COOL! THEY WERE PLAYING 'HE LIVES IN YOU' FROM RotPL IN THE BACKGROUND! YOU GUYS JUST HAVE TO SEE IT, I'M TOO EXCITED TO EXPLAIN IT ALL!!! RENT MR. MAGOO TODAY, THE PREVIEW FOR SP IS ABOUT 6 MIN INTO THE PREVIEWS AFTER THE ONE FOR POCAHONTAS II! GO ON, RENT IT, NOW!

PS. sorry about all the caps lock, Brian, but this is just TOO big! :D


Jun 24 - 13:46

Krazy Kat

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LION KING!!!!
(Confetti flies everywhere)

Dara,
My Calypso stories might not be on the net. There was a particular site I had in mind for them but now I can't find it! =P But my "Tales Of A Bravev Lioness" stories about Sarabi, Sarafina, and other lionesses will be on this site. "Sarabi's Quest" is already there, but it's not a very good or detailed story. It only took me a day to write. I am currently working on "Sarafina's Mate" which will probably be longer and better. Oh well.

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 24 - 10:37

Stupid Dara again...

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Hello all!!

I've solved all my problems already!
I searched for the songtexts of TLKoB and it was on Brian's site!! Stupid me! I ask first THEN I go looking for it... forget I asked it!

HAKUNA MATATA!!!

Dara


Jun 24 - 10:32

Dara

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY LION KING!
Maybe even happy birthday me... I've been here on the Rumor Mill for a year now!

Mmmm, I don't know if it will work Nala. You just told your ideas on the net. Everybody will do it now! Ha, ha! see all those cast memebers of the D.Store watch if everybody tells them they need their copies because they're moving!!

I'll check your stories as soon as they are available on the net, Krazy Kat.

I was wondering... I would like to download all the songtexts of TLKoB, cause my tape is kinda illegal. sssssst! Now I can't sing along!!
(not that they would like to hear it, but I like to read what the songs are about.)
Can I find it somewhere on a site??
Please, can anybody help me with this??

# It's time to..... Chow down...# No really it is, it's dinner time. No meat for me tonight. Bread is on the menu. It doesn't matter, bread could be on the menu every day if it was for me!

See ya all!!
Bye and Chow down!

Dara


Jun 24 - 10:27

Nala

Location:
E-mail: Nala413@hotmail.com

Kara, Kiara fan:

PLEASE give me your e-mail address! I just checked my posting, and I *cried* (seriously) when I read your posting. It was so sweet. I hope too that Simba's Pride will win our respect too. I will admit that I DID cry too when I saw the footage after Lion King on ABC. Not out of happiness, (I think) but out of sorrow. I didn't think it lived up to my expectations. But, I watched it 10 more times that night and found it to be okay. Well, we'll see.

SNEAKY IDEA OF NALA'S (SO LISTEN UP)

I'm gonna reserve Simba's Pride at the D. Store, and go in a couple of days before it's supposed to be given out. I'm gonna con my mom, (or me) into going in EARLY and say that we're moving like ummm...(NALA THINKS)...tomorrow, and WE NEED OUR COPY NOW! I think that they might give it to us. (I'll drag a little kid with me and get 'em to act or something) JUST AN IDEA...BUT...YA NEVER KNOW IF IT MIGHT WORK!

Bye!

Love Nala


Jun 24 - 06:54

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland,USA
E-mail:

Beerit
Chopping at the bit is a term used with horses.
When horses get excited about something they will chew on the bit in there mouth. So in other words Shenzi is saying she is excited and can't wait to eat.
You did ask :)


Jun 24 - 06:51

Nala

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Before I begin...HAPPY 4th ANNIVERSARY LION KING! Okay, well, it's about time. There's gonna be a little party at my house tonight. Popcorn, coke and a really, I mean REALLY great movie. Aladdin ;) JOKING!!! Please don't kill me! I'll repent to Sarabi after I finish. Sick, aren't I???? I haven't been here in a while. Didn't look like anyone missed me. :( Well, no worries. Just dropped in for a minute, cuz now I HAVE to go to the mall to get my Kovu and Kiara beanies. Love you all lots! Lata my friends!

Nala

"Even those who are gone are with us as we move on
Your journey has only begun
Tears of pain, tears of joy
One thing nothing can destroy is our pride deep inside
We are ONE."

We are One
Simba's Pride

Release Date: October 27th, 1998

BUSA SIMBA IYO!


Jun 24 - 06:47

Kara, Kiara fan again

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Happy 4th Birthday the Lion King! On this glorius date, four years ago, people around the country were allowed first glimpse of this spectacular motion picture. From that day on, we on the internet have loved the Lion King more and more. We began writing stories, drawing fan art, and creating more web pages. Thus, in 1998, after the celebration of the Lion King's 4th anniversary, we will now welcome Simba's Pride, the direct sequal to everyone's favorite movie. The only question that remains, is that, will Simba's Pride win our respect once again and be another of our favorites, or will it bring our love of The Lion King down? Beyond that point, I hope that we continue to respect and enjoy Disney's greatest achievement ever for many years to follow. Next year will be its 5th anniversary, an even greater event, but for now, we're all thinking about the sequal and the Broadway show. I would just like to say congragulations to the Lion King, for being the best movie after all these years, and for bringing the rumor mill together. Where would we be without it? Anyway, Happy 4th Birthday Lion King and always follow the Circle of Life.
We Are One,
Kara (Kiara)


Jun 24 - 06:44

J. Falk

Location: Utica, New York
E-mail: MadGmr@aol.com

I have seen Mulan this past friday when it opened and it was decent but nowhere near as good as The Lion King 'cause in my opinion, and in the opinion of many others I'm sure, nothing and I repeat nothing can top the greatest animated feature of all time. Yes I am now aware that tomorrow will be The Lion King's 4th anniversary and I have begun the countdown but I don't intend to watch it again until later this summer. I now make the following vow: After I watch The Lion King this summer, I will not watch it again until on or around the release date of the sequel to the greatest animated film of all time then I'm going straight to Simba's Pride. That, fellow Lion King fans is my promise.


Jun 23 - 20:25

Kiara-holic #1

Location: Back Home in California
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Hi everyone,

I just moved from school in Hawaii back home to California for the summer and I have very limited internet access. I just had to create a new guestbook and will eventually respond to about 20 entries that I haven't got to yet. At least I'll have full internet access again about two months before the movie comes out. I might even have to unsubscribe from the tlk-list because I simply cannot read everything for the next two months.


Kiara-holic #1


Kiara's Home Page


Jun 23 - 16:07

Beerit

Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

TLKoB rules!!!!!!!

"the sun,
the sun will rise,
the sun,
the sun will rise" - Simba in yet another black out moment, Endless night. TLKoB

"Wait!
there's no mountain too great,
hear these words & have faith,
ooooooooh......
have fath....." - A GREAT PART from They live in u, TLKoB

"I'm chompin' at the bit, baby" - what does chompin' mean, & why r'nt we doing it? Chow down, TLKoB.

some of my chosen parts, though I dont listen to chow down.... just they live in u, he lives in u & endless night. oh, well.... no herc complaints today.....

#BANISH THE POOH#
#MAKE COATS OUT OF THE POOH#
#TEACH THE CHILDREN TO HUNT(THE POOH)#

we are one

p.s. I think the Kovu I made (http://www.lionking.org/~ari/Scarfix.jpg) looks like a great combining of Mufasa Simba & Scar. his face remind me of Mufasa a lot (if I tilt my head to the right), he is in this slick pose like Scar & his body is just in the right proportion. not huge like Mufasa's & not skinny like Scar.
maybe he's more of n Ahadi then Kovu?


Jun 23 - 14:49

Krazy Kat

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Dara,
I know what you mean in "The Madness Of King Scar" if you're not watching it...

I just finished a short story on Sarabi I started yesterday. It's not very good since it only took me a day and a half...but I sent it to Brian so if he decides to put it up, it'll be with my Calypso Chronicles. I think the next one will be about Sarafina. It's a new series! "Tales Of The Brave Lioness". Well, the one I just finished is called "Sarabi's Quest". It's right after Simba throws Scar to the hyenas.
Well, Sarabi is hunting BY HERSELF (Which was not a very smart idea) and she tries to take down an eland, but she gets trampled by it instead. She doesnt die, but she gets (gasp) Amnesia! (O told you it wasn't good!) and she meets a sort of rogue lion, but he has two lionesses and a cub. The one hates Sarabi but the other one likes her.
Then after Kevana (the nice one) is talking to her, and The Pridelands comes up, Sarabi remembers and heads home. But here comes the rogue, (Nurarka) and he and Simba fight for Sarabi. I think that's about it. It's only ten pages....

#BAN THE POOH#
#STAB THE POOH WITH A BLUNT OBJECT#
#HATE THE POOH#

~Krazy Kat~
"And The Journey
May lead you
Let This Prayer
Be your guide
Though it may take you
So far away
Always remember your Pride"- Chorus, TLKoB (My assumption is that the chrorus is the other lionesses bidding Nala farewell when she searches for help, but I'm not sure since I've never seen it.)


Jun 23 - 11:45

Dara

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Shenzi, I remember a sequel concerning Bambi's kids too! I saw the names and I thought, Yes!!
But now I can't remember where I've seen it before... Maybe I don't have the story anymore.
I do have a Disney story book with different Disney stories including Bambi. There the 2 kids were called: Gobo and Marion. Pretty dumb hè?

I just received the music for TLKoB!!! It's fantastic!! I adore the songs "They live in you" and Nala's solo "Shadowland". "The madness of King Scar" is terrific!! But the scene with Scar and Nala is scary! Ewwwww!!!! If you didn't see that scene (I think most of you didn't) and you're listening to the music it's just like Scar is.... well, never mind... shiver.... That song of the hyena's, "Chow down" is really hardrock!!!!
So many music styles is great!!
How I wish I could see it now!!

Beerit, I can't reach your site by now... I will check later.
(# I'm going to listen TLKoB!!#

*Bye!*

Dara


Jun 23 - 10:53

krazy Kat

Location: maryland, USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

This is sorta on/off topic...

Does anyone have a Mustek Scanner????!!! This thing is driving me insanae!!!!!!!! I pre- scanned my fan-art pic of Vitani, and it showed up..then after I scanned it it dissapeared!!! I really wanted to put my fan art up someplace. HELP ME!!!!!! (Sorry for shouting)

~Krazy Kat~
"Night
And The spirit Of Life Calling
Mamela
And a voice
With the fear of a child asking
Mamela" -Mufasa, TLKoB "They Live in You"


Jun 22 - 20:03

bEeRiT

Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Cold Dragon, oh right! I keep confusing 'em.....
Dara, if kids start to cry during a movie I think its ok to call them whiners & not
someone who was banished from society as a child like herc. (though he really was a
whiner....)
My mom doesn't hear music. she doesn't have time for it. no she's not a compressive
worker with no time for her (lovable) child.
just, u know.........
I didn't care for New Artist's message eater. he was kinda depressive..... stop analyzing
SP & start enjoying it!
"sorry sorry I said that! I didn't mean to upset anyone!.. sorry..."
thanks for the kind words, Dara. I liked it too.
hey, be sure to check my fan art archive! I've got some new fan art. most of 'em r mine.
but this time, they're REAL! hand
drawn, that is. here's a sample www.lionking.org/~ari/MyCubKovu.jpg
I've got n all new windows background! check it out in mt misc stuff section.
Kara, Kiara Fan, what is the plot 4 Bambi. I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!!!!! he's like, a little
hair ball, then his mother dies, then he hides 4 the winter. & when he comes out he & his
friends r all grown up. then what?
shenzi, sounds like TLK paradise....

we r 1

#THE HELL WITH THE POOH#
#GEE DARN GOSH.....#
#WHAT'S THAT SMELL COMING OUT OF THE POOH?#

Krazy Kat, 2 can play that game:
"I know, yes, I know, the sun will rise, yes, I know, I know...." - Simba in one of his less
poetic moments, endless night, TLKoB


Jun 22 - 18:38

Cold Dragon

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Alexander
The reason I did not mention Little Brother was he was there and gone in the story. All that happened was Mulan tied a bag of chicken feed to him and dangled a bone in front of his face. He then ran around the yard spreading chicken feed as he tried to get the bone.

Kara
Go see Mulan!!!!! It is realy good and worth the price of admission. As I write this I am listening to the sound track :) I am planing to see it again this weekend, I am even going to drag my Mom to it so she can see how good it is ( she thought TLK was just ok, sacralige :)
In my opinion it is not as good as TLK but it is in the same league ( Disney movies that are great for adults and kids)


Jun 22 - 18:11

shenzi

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krazy kat, don't you just hate writers block, i wish someone would find a cure for it. good luck with the calypso chronicals. kara, faline and bambi were cousins. i read the book bambi ( not the disney version) long ago when i was 10 and they were cousins in the book. feline had a brother who was always weak. the book was better than the movie. there is a sequel to the book called Bambi's children and its about his kids Geno and Guri. i own a copy but i think its pretty rare. anyone else ever heard of it ? dara, i'll try to relax, thanx for the concern. when tlk was released on video it was far more popular than pooh is now. people in school wore tlk shirts and stickers on their backpacks. girls carried tlk teddies around school and people sung songs from the movie in the hallways. it was crazy and amusing, but those were the good old days.i miss them.i gotta go, the libraries kicking me off now. this sucks !!!


Jun 22 - 17:24

Kara, Kiara Fan

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I was watching Bambi a while ago and I noticed that Feline turned out to be Bambi's cousin. And didn't they marry and have kids at the end? I guess Disney thinks if they're animals, inbreeding is okay. This way, Kiara could be Kovu's cousin and they could get married and stuff. Sorry if I repeated something someone else said.
Kara (Kiara) We Are One
P.S. This Wednesday is Lion King's 4th year anniversary. LET'S ALL CELEBRATE!!!!!!
P.S again. Did anyone see Mulan? Is it any good? I don't know if I want to see it if it's not any good. Well um, does anyone know the plot?
We Are One


Jun 22 - 14:41

NEW-ARTIST ò¿ó›
NEW-ARTIST ò¿ó›
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FEEL FREE TO WRITE BACK A RESPONSE TO ME. I'LL BE HERE FROM TODAY TO TOMORROW AFTERNOON. ò¿~›


Jun 22 - 12:35

Krazy Kat

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Hey all.

I've been struck with bordem and (agh!) Writer's Block! My third Calypso story isn't going too well..I'm more proud of the first two. Could someone send me a link to where the story "The Pride" can be found. I found that Brian's link was broken and now I am having amazing difficulty reaching it. I'd deeply appreciate it. Oh, I am also thinking about writing a fanfic using a few charcters from the Lion King. I'm just forming this as I speak..probably about Simba (Adult o' course =D) and Sarabi..hmm..I think my writer's block is begginning to go away..I'm cured! Yay!! Well, I'm off to see Microsoft Word, the wonderful Word™ of my computer!! Well, it's not that wonderful..ta ta

~Krazy Kat~
"Zazu, why am I not...loved?" -Scar TLKoB


Jun 22 - 12:23

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Oooh Beerit! Of course I KNOW you don't like Herc, that's way I told you to make a great Meg site instead of a stupid Herc site... (but you sounded creepy anyway!) Yeah, yeah, you're so lovable... Com'on Beerit, give me a break! (kidding) mmmm, maybe Israel needs a new lesson... ahem... repeat after me: HAKUNA MATATA! A well, ya know that... this whas ment for your country. Yeah, those kids who started to cry during the Elephant Graveyard scene are pahtetic! (but the were kinda young you know)

Laurie, you're right about the jokes in Hercules.
They dated the movie. Other (earlier) Disney movies are timeless.

Shenzi, whoah cool down, ha,ha! You'll get a heart attack instead of Pooh! We like to keep you a little longer on the net! Oh, I know the "Daria" show it's kinda depressive!
That girl doesn't know how to be happy I guess!
But it's funny, I don't watch it that often. But it's better than Beavis and Butthead...
I know how you feel about youre mom likeing Michael Bolton... My mom is CRAZY about Queen! Every morning she listens to their music this for moren than 7 years now!!!! How nuts can you be?!!
Your singing didn't offend me for I couldn't hear it... Guess I'm not a hyena... or I'm I?? mmmm...
Ya never know!

Thanks cold Dragon for telling me about Mulan's sidekicks. Guess we have another cricket hopping around since Pinochio (guess I can't spell either.)

Now, now, New-Artist, what depressive thoughts!!
I know you're no longer around here I guess, but if you think you can find more happiness in Balto then go. Don't you think you're just a little overreacting when you say 'threats of e-mails' and 'I'll break your neck'? Don't you think these are all jokes!? I like to be here and I think this is a rather tame website (thank Ahieu). I mean, whenever we say 'bad' things to eachother it's alway like: "sorry sorry I said that! I didn't mean to upset anyone!.. sorry..." That's why I like this site. What's wrong with a little discussion? It's nice sharing thoughts with eachother. And then, I think all website are good.
I don't have a website, I don't want to have one and I don't want to be the best too.

Shenzi, I can't think of anything else for downloading the rest of the chronicles. It's a mystery for me too. Maybe try to download for text only or if you already did that, try to download for 'Word' if you do have it. Maybe it will work in a few days... You could already download it now.

*Jeez! did I wrote that much yet?!!*
I gotta go!

Dara

p.s. Your Kovu pic looks great Beerit!! That's the way he's supposed to look like! Strong and muscular and aaah.... handsome!!! O.k. I overreacted... the pic is great that's true.


Jun 22 - 11:51

shenzi

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back again for a second. dara, i tried to download spirit quest and makai. finally i could open the file, but instead of getting a story with words i got some weird symbols i can't read. ugggh, i also tried to download the stories on ryan's lion but couldn't eighter. wutz up here ? by the way everyone christopher robin annoys me too. his name, and the fact he hangs out with that loser pooh. he's a real geek that kid. if he would grow up i'll bet he would have to visit a physcyitrist ( sorry i can't spell ). maybe that nasy rabbit will beat the stuffing out of pooh oneday. that kiara hand puppet sounds cute. can you get the lithograph and the puppet or do you have to choose. i hope you can get both. hakuna matata, ta ta !


Jun 22 - 10:24

shenzi

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the message below is for new artist. hopefully i'll be back later, i gotta go.......oh yeah, we are 1, pooh for none.beerit, okay, go the distance isn't so bad. it kinda grows on you. its the only song i remember from herc.


Jun 22 - 10:04

shenzi

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simba and scar are not brothers. scar is simba's uncle.


Jun 22 - 09:59

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My final thoughts [written for rumormill and mostly applies with others]:
It is told that Scar have had a pride during the "dark ages" as "king." Scar's pride might have been forged out of those lions loyal to any king of Pride Rock or share his same views about lions and hyenas coming together in a great and glorious future. During his reign, he might of found a mate who is to be Zira and had [a] cub[s]. When Simba defeated Scar, as someone had said in earlier entries below, Scar's pride ran off out of the pride lands and came back either by the sympathy of Simba or something else. Kiara and Kuvo met. The two cubs lack the knowledge that they might be related. Kuvo can definitely be Scar's son but I didn't see any lioness with similar characteristics as Kuvo or Scar. Simba and Scar are brothers *DUH!*, if Kuvo is Scar's son and if Kiara and Kuvo got together, then they would be cousins. I doubt that Kuvo is Scar's son for many reasons, there's inbreeding and Disney wouldn't of done that.
There are reasons that Kuvo can be Scar's son. Like a pride, there's a pack of wolves. If two wolves mate, they would have gray wolves and possibly one or two black wolves, but the two parents are gray. That takes care of the characteristics. During TLK, there is no middle story of Pride Rock and what happened during the reign of Scar. Anything could of transpired. By the previews of May 10th, we don't know if Kiara and Kuvo are in love with each other, maybe they're just friends or even cousins to the end of the movie, maybe that's why Disney allowed Kuvo to be Scar's son. As for Nuka, forget Nuka, he's mental and power-crazy. There's no tangible evidence of being Scar's son... yet. For Sarabi, she is old and her time could be up, but I doubt it. As for girlfriends for the rest of the smaller characters, there is no connection between the girlfriends and the smaller characters. If Timon and Pumbaa do get girlfriends, that would defy their motto. They did support Hakuna Matata when Adult Simba and Adult Nala fell in love. Timon didn't like it. However, everything relates to everything else, how do the girlfriends relate to the main plot?
It is true that Simba does look different in SP, and so does Sarabi at the end of TLK. Disney probably emphasize age or some of the artists probably evolved the characters. To evolve the characters is to gradually alter the character's image through time without the artist knowing it. Artists tried to keep the original image but it evolved into something new like different ears or different body shapes. They kept it because it might of looked better or maybe it made the final cut before they could redo it. Though, if people do ask about it, Disney might find ways to cover it up like age. Look at what happened in All Dogs Go to Heaven II, it's messed up beyond comprehension. This is true to me because I've been a victim of evolution of my own characters. I am a "New-Artist."
People in this page are loyal to TLK and SP and took up a motto of We Are One. I don't think we are one because of all the competition of better websites. Threats of e-mails and even "I'll break your neck." And people wonder why I don't have an e-mail address or even a website typpen down. If you want my opinion, I enjoy the websites where they actually respond to guestbook entries. I must admit, all of you did a great job in keeping TLK alive and did a superb job in making your webstes.
And that's my final thoughts and my opinion. This might be my last entry before I go to research Balto, so continue this little controversy. I'm continuing my journey back to the Alpha Quadrant.
New-Artist coming back from up above transwarp style in the 9th month of the year.


Jun 22 - 09:02

Alexander

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No new SP news: Just be aware that the Disney Store has plenty of the Kiara and Kovu bean bags now.

Cold Dragon, you forgot one of Mulan's animal sidekicks: Little Brother, a crazy-looking little dog. Apparently he's only in the movie for several minutes (I still haven't seen it) but they are making Little Brother toys, so I would count him as a sidekick. I hate to be anal, but just thought this was something to note.


Jun 22 - 08:35

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland,USA
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Oh I forgot this in my last post, sorry

On the whole Pooh thing.
For the record I am NOT a Pooh fan, but I don't hate him eather. I think he is cute for Little kids.
I took a poll on why people like Pooh. I work at Target department store and we sell a ton of Pooh stuff. So for one day every time people would buy Pooh stuff in my line I asked them why they like Pooh. The answer was eather it was for a kid or that it was remanisent of there childhood. Every person who gave me the second answer went into a story of how they loved one of the Pooh charictors as a kid or some other treasured memory of childhood related to Pooh. For them it was a way to get in touch with there lost childhood, or at least it seemed that way to me.

As usual Disney is just trying to make money when ever possable. It's to bad that Mr Toad has to pay for it :(

Just a thought


Jun 22 - 08:22

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland,USA
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Ducky
The goat in Hunchback was a guy. Esmerelda (sorry i can't spell) said he was male. In the scean where she is fighting with Phebus ( still can't spell) in the catherdril, the goat hits Phebus in the ribs dialog as follows P " I did not know you had a kid" E " well HE doesn't take kindly to soldiers" ......

On a slightly diffrent subject did anyone notice that the goat's ear ring changed from ear to ear alot in the film, I guess it's just like the number of wiskers in TLK.

Dara
Mulan has three animal sidekicks, Mushu the dragon, Khan the horse, and Cri-Kee the chricket. Only Mushu talks, the rest make nomal animal noises. Mushu translates for the cricket threw the movie and Khan gets his point acrost with out translation.

Shenzi
I do watch Daria, in fact I never miss it. Sometimes I think MTV has been following me around and using parts of my life for the show. hmm maybe I should get a cut of the profits :)

Beerit
Change the World was performed by Eric Clapton and Baby Face, not Micheal Bolton.

Just a couple of thoughts


Jun 22 - 08:12

Beerit

Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Laurie, I agree with most of the thing u said, exept the soundtrack part but I don't want to
go into it.
shenzi, Daria is on really late at israel, but I watch it couse its the summer vacation(thank aiheu!)
I liked as good as it gets too. it was kinda weird. it had no really point. just a movie. that
was cool. in spain they call it (in free translation): "weman... impossible!"
what a lousy name for such a cool film....
I thought peg looked like the mulan horse too. only with no wings. pegasus rules!!!!
herc's ears did look kinda fishy to me. michael bolton... is he the one that sang "change
the world"? couse if he is, I kinda like him. but I heard change the world so many times I
started hating him too. I don't know what I think of him but I do know that "go the
distance" is great!
I liked meg's song better though.
it was cool they didn't have a gushy love song on herc. I really hate those. I feel like I'm
peeking on people's private moments... (;<
bug meg's song wasn't much of a love song, then again, it was. that was cool.
shenzi is out there.........

#MASACKER THE POOH#
#SLAY THE POOH#
#GENERALLY DO BAD THINGS TO THE POOH#

we are one

p.s. sooooo??????
how did u like my pic?!?!?!?!!
little refreshment:
http://www.lionking.org/~ari/Scarfix.jpg


Jun 22 - 03:20

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Hello everyone! :) I called the Disney Catalog to inquire about Simba's Pride merchandise (namely plushies), :) and the cast member I spoke to said that although plushies were not yet available, the video can be pre-ordered now! :) You can get a lithograph as well as a hand puppet of either Kiara or Pumbaa.

Kristin


Jun 21 - 20:36

Krazy Kat

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Oops! I almost forgot!

#BAN THE POOH!!!!!!#

Stick it, Pooh Bear!

Well, that's all I have to say 4 tonight..I'd better get working on Calypso book 3... i hope u all read my stories in the text files archive! I would deeply appreciate it, since these stories have been just sitting around for so long.

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 21 - 20:25

Krazy Kat (I'm gettung tired of writing all that simbaholic stuff you already know..)

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Hey again.

Has anyone been having problems with the Hakuna Matata screensaver? If you have tell me so i know I'm not the only one. For some reason it won't unzip..it's probably my computer being really stupid again. (It has a lot of problems with internet stuff.) Well, for those of you who wanna read "The Calypso Chronicles" I think they'll be up on Brian's sight sometime soon.


Jun 21 - 20:21

shenzi

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i've got a lovely bunch of coconuts..diddly dee, there they are a standing in a row.big ones, small ones some as big as a head !!!!( I'm in a krazy/sarcastic mood) goodnight everyone and i hope my singing didn't offend anyone. i don't think hyena's like i sing very well at all.


Jun 21 - 19:47

shenzi

Location: long island
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hakuna matata. DOWN WITH POOH !! Krazy Kat, good luck with your new story. i can't wait to read it.i think it will be just as good as the tlk chronicals. i'm a writer too, but i've never written anything for the internet. to busy typing a story i want to publish. hong kong, i'm pissed that disney is turning the toadride into a pooh ride. i don't know why woman like pooh. beats the hell out of me. i'm the only woman in my fam that hates pooh. my mom isn't krazy about him but she likes tigger. oh well. pooh needs to go to wait watchers. hopefully those calories from the honey he eats will give him a heart attach. sorry for being cruel people but i'm in a daria type mood. anyone watch that show ? i kinda like the rabbit in pooh, because he seems to hate pooh and he's such a nasty little guy like my pet rabbit . lioness, nice talking to you in the chatroom. who was the other hyena ? neptunes great by the way. amira/janet, i know its probely too late but goodbye and i hope we see you again one day. if anyone is in a sarcastic mood just watch As good as it gets. what a great movie !! its about a writer with obsessive compulsive disorder who is nasty to everyone. dara, i want a tlk prequel too. i'm gonna write to disney one day and suggest it. who knows. i think the fat muse in herc was cool. one of the other muses looked like she had her hair electricuted and except for the fat muse the rest were dancing, gospel singing tooth pics. balato was allright. Beerit, i love tlk but i don't watch it a lot on video. you can like herc. did you know herc's animater made hercs ears look like the breakfast danishes he used to eat as a kid ? peg was cute as a little horse. i hated the song Go the Distance. then again i can't stand Micheal Bolton. ugggh,i'm sick of his music. my mom loves him. she's got all his tapes and plays them in her car and sings along, makes me want to puke. i call them the tapes of death. i think micheal Bolton was the only reason my mom took me to see herc in the theater. i think mulans horse looks a bit like peg. i hope they keep the scary stuff in sp. gotta go now. sorry i said too much. we are 1 and pooh for none !!busa simba. Remember who you are....blah blah blah....bye !


Jun 21 - 19:41

Krazy Kat #1 Adult-Simba-Holic (Don't forget to trill the r's!)

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

'llo!

Dara, I also did not like Muk and Luk all that much. I liked Balto, Steele, Nikki, Kaltag and Star the best. but back to SP....

William, thanks for the footage info! Gee, a minute doesn't seem like all that much. Oh well, that's still a minute more of SP!

Oh, just to warn everyone that there will soon be a disaster area on the net..Krazy Kat's Junk Page....beware. It's gonna have TLK, Oliver and Company, Balto maybe, and The Beatles maybe too..but it has not yet been confirmed...

~Krazy Kat~


Jun 21 - 19:28

Laurie

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OK, we're all talking about Hercules so I'd like to say something, and most probably are sick of this so you have the option of skipping this. First, I'll never again buy a Disney soundtrack without hearing the music first because I got ripped off! I didn't like it at all, no offense to anyone. Second, the humor was funny sometimes, but some of those jokes might also have dated the movie. Do you think people 20 years from now will get all those jokes someday? Anyway, I do agree the 3-headed monster sequence was a good part though. I think my main problem with Herc was that it felt like every previous Disney movie all mixed together.


Jun 21 - 15:03

William

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Krazy Kat,

A "foot" is 16 frames. There are 24 frames in a film second. When you heard that Disney added 80 feet of new footage, that's about a minute of new stuff (53.33 seconds).


Jun 21 - 14:51

Beerit

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Dara, I'm a hercaholic of the movie. not of herc himself. by god, women! what is going
on in that little head o' yours?!?!? just practicing my creep act.
who liked herc anyway? he sucks. too bad pegasus wasn't zeus's son. (Te-He)
pegasus has the brain of a bird (kewe) & I like his comic relief. meg's hair looks just
fine! kinda gellowy but hey, what can u do?....
my cat's name is ski actually, I call her ski ski couse she's so stupid I have to call her
twice anyway..... (:
hercules did have great jokes. Disney focused on comic relief more then on emotion
(like in TLK). it was refreshing.
I hated pain & panic! they sucked! they were "Timon & Pumba: next generation" only
they were bad. pain is the fat one.
I will never turn my back on SP! but I fear my TLK loving days r over.... hercules had
taken over my soul.... (dang!)
don't even try do hate me! its very hard! I'm so lovable.....

hey, we r'nt that sensitive! its just that the publicity wasn't that bug I guess. & besides, I
was very young & cant remember everything. I guess it was lack of publicity.

the kids who started to cry during the elephant graveyard r weird.....

# BAN THE POOH!! #

# HATE THE POOH!! #

# SHOOT THE POOH!! #

we are one (united against big ugly mutant talking bars)

p.s. guess what?!?!? I made a Kovu pic! well, kinda. I took a scar image & made his
body bigger, changed his face so he won't look so evil. (another *naughty grin*)
I love it! it looks cool. I looked at herc in the movie's... umm... what do u call it... the solid
thing around the movie! & I liked the shadowing job on him. so I tried it myself. for a first
try I must give myself a pat on the back.
http://www.lionking.org/~ari/Scarfix.jpg


Jun 21 - 12:54

Dara

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Krazy Kat, everything you said I agree with!! You said it about the comparison with TLK and Balto. I'm sorry I didn't remember the names...
and yes, Balto IS just like Simba... like Simba, Balto doesn't now were he belongs or what who he really is. At the end he finds out and becomes confident, just like Simba. Remember the scene where Steele comes back from the snow to tell everybody Balto died.... mmmm, just as sneaky as Scar. But Steele is much too selfconfident to be like Scar. By the way... I didn't like Muk and Luk. They were kinda stupid.

Thanks for clearing up my mystery about Mr. Toad's wild ride, Hong Kong! It really sounds great! Pity the're going to make a stupid Pooh ride instead!!
Maybe we should BAN THE POOH!!
You're right about Balto... it doesn't matter how hard the producers try to make it look like a Disney movie, the stories are always lacking. The artwork is good, but if only the story lines where better.... they would be a serious threat for Disney!

Beerit NOOOO! don't become a Hercaholic!! mmm, why don't YOU make a great herc site?? Or a great Meg-site. Herc is SOOOOOOO clumsy and stupid!!
I think I like Hades most, then Phil and then Meg (but like Shenzi said, she needs a GOOD haircut!)... and that awfully singing fat muse (sorry) was not that bad. Pegasus is kinda stupid (sorry again) did he swallow a bird or something?? By the way, nice name, Ski Ski!
The 3 headed monster was cool (scary, I like that) But what I liked most about Hercules were those GREAT JOKES!!!! I like the scene with the Hercules mergandizes (shoes, clothes etc.) And Hades had some great jokes which sometimes only adults could understand. Perfect!! Pain and Panic were.... too noisy I guess. Hé, the voice of the fat one (is it Panic?) is that the voice of that guy of Police Academy? The one who screams all the time? I like him, he's great! See, even I DO HATE the music, and even I DO HATE clumsy Herc, and that stupid horse and because Meg was too cocky (now SHE really was!) I loved to watch Hercules... It's a pity it's nothing like TLK. But it was Disney and therfore good. I don't hate you 'couse you like Hercules.... BUT if you TURN your back on SP, then....... (kidding!)
Oh, and why is TLK so unpopulair in Israel? I was thinking of some clue's in the faith... Or had it something to do with the hyena's and their fascist thoughts. Hope I'm not hurting you or something. But I can't find any other clue's.

Way the go, Beerit!! I blame the high cost of Internet on my sister who's on the telephone all the time!!! My parents can see now we're on the phone when they're in the living room! They discoverd lately my sister is also on the phone, sometimes for 2 hours!!! Now that's one BIG relief for me, as you can imagine! *naughty grin*

Krazy Kat, don't be shamed to share youre opinions, whe all do, remember? Hopefully I'll get the music of TLKoB on Tuesday!! OOOh, I can't wait! I hope it's great like you said!

Cold Dragon, I noticed too, about Djali and Hugo. And my first thought was: oh look, funny! The made Hugo sort of a gay. But I didn't think any further. I thought it was cool! Something different than a boy/girl relation. I won't say Disney must do this more often!! but here, with an animal/gargoyle it was funny. Oh, are there sidekicks in Mulan??! And if they are animals, do they talk?? Except the dragon, I know about him.
Luckily I don't live where you do cold dragon, I'm TERRIBLY afraid of thunder/lightning storms!!!

Oh Ducky, I know Hugo is male, because his name is taken from the writer of the story: Victor HUGO. And HE was male. I almost know for sure Djali is a male too! or else Disney would have make him more female like. With long lashes and everything...
Pooh is cute.... for little children under the aged of 3. I like scary parts in Disney movies.
I'm sure it will attract more (sub) adults!!
By the way, when I saw the scene of the hyena's who were after Simba and Nala in the Elephant Graveyard in the cinema, some kids started to cry!

Sorry I wrote so much (yes, I also do apologize) but I like what you've written. I wanted to give a reply to you all! And then, what's wrong with sharing thoughts with eachother? We'll have to wait for some news about SP?!


# BAN THE POOH!! #


*Dara*


Jun 21 - 12:17

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