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This page is for any user of the TLK WWW Archive to post what they've heard about Simba's Pride (the sequel to TLK) or anything else that's happening in the Lion King universe. Make sure to post only info you are sure is correct, and read all existing info before adding your own. Remember, this page will be around to read over after the sequel comes out!
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Blue Lion

Location:
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org

La Rita... Prince of Egypt isn't Don Bluth, it's Dreamworks SKG... Katzenburg is the 'K' he co-owns the studio with Spielberg and Geffen.

I put up a few of the Mulan sing along screen grabs on my site, e0mail me if you want them without looking for the hidden link.... on this subject I'm getting my contract to make my site commercial mailed now.. meaning I have to break that link & get rid of all TLK & SP pictures for fear of lawyers! Long story short... Anyone who wants my pictures can have all of my little archive.. let me know.

I'll mail three Mulan SAL images here, I have 7 more on my site... none have words on them.

If anyone dosen't mind the words on the bottom let me know & I'll grab some of those too

Blue Lion
"Second born, second place!"


Aug 10 - 22:07

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

I'm pretty sure that rumour about some kids coming up with the idea for TLK is false. Disney ripped it off from some movie in Japan right? Anyway that's what I've always heard. Of course, getting stolen by Disney was probably the best thing that ever happened to that story, Kimba The White Lion or whatever it was called :-)


Aug 10 - 21:00

Jenna

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Sorry!!! I messed up the board..can I fix it?



Aug 10 - 20:18

Jenna

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LaLaLaLaLa...oh yeah. Today I went to the disney store. I heard they had alot of pooh stuff, but dam(i didn't curse :) I mean, I like pooh, but I think ..what I'm saying is.. I don't think he deservs that muck merchandise. I probably have about...5or6pooh merchandise (excluding the video I've had since I was 5) and I don't plan on getting more...at least not a lot more. But, as for TLK, there was some, but half the store was pooh. I didn't see much mickey mouse at all. I saw a little lady and the tramp..one of my favorite disney movies and a few other miscellaneus things. I saw a Kovu/Kiara toddlers/small child outfit, and the designing was bad. I saw the porcelain things and the color was wrong. I'll stop rambling now and stop torturing everyone from my views on many thing. also, does andyone have "THE DISNEY FAKE BOOK">? Bye


Aug 10 - 20:16

Kara

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Ok, I was at Target (again) today and I saw this whole section of an isle cleared out for Simba's Pride Merchandise. None of it had come in yet except for the figure set and family stuffed animals, but the prices and headings are there. They will have Simba's Pride figures, 1.99, jungle buddies (I have no clue what those are), Pride Rock set, and lots of stuffed animals. I hope it all comes in soon, I CAN'T WAIT!! It's like starting all over again. Sorry no new information here...
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Aug 10 - 18:12

Beerit

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My chronicles links did'nt go, so even though I said I was on strike,
here they REALLY are:

Chronicles of the Pride
http://www.lionking.org/~ryan/lionking/text/gentking/cotp.zip

The Spirit Quest
http://www.lionking.org/~ryan/lionking/text/gentking/tsqtext.zip

Shadows of the Makei
http://www.lionking.org/~ryan/lionking/text/gentking/sotmtext.zip

Under The Acacias
http://www.lionking.org/~ryan/lionking/text/gentking/acacaistext.zip

we are on strike


Aug 10 - 13:55

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Hong Kong Phooey, Its ok, the thought of seeing Herc makes me wanna puke.
It took a lot longer for TLK to get to that, so I supose it was'nt that good anyway.
Why are you so mean to me? is it becuse of the Disney shows thing?
Im sorry if I was being harsh on 'em, its just that I HATE dubbing!
its weird, I know, but I DESPISE it! so maybe I was a little fuzz-headed when I heard the dubbing.
sorry. but you did'nt have to yell at me! I DID say, "all the shows I SAW".
that's hardly a "sweeping generalizations"!
Kasi, weird you should mention the care bears. I had a grat care bear joke yesterday. tehe...
Everyone loved the care bears as kids, but now it really bores me.
"Oh, love-bear, let's rescue orphan Timmy! Timmy, Timmy, hold on!"
and I'm like "Timmy, Timmy, let go!"
I was dino nut too once, but it goes away after a while.
though my universe holia did'nt. I love looking at the stars!

KH#1, ok, I'll put 'em in. I have lot's of neat stuff in my merchandise page, so stop by sometimes.
Oh, yes, the backgrounds, they're ready! you can get 'em on www.lionking.org/~ari/back
knock yourself out!
I'll get some grabs as soon as I can get my hands on the Mulan tape!
Zakiya, I looved "Power of One"! it was a truely great movie!
I hated that girl though. I cheered when she died. (:
But the movie ruled. definatly called for a sequel!

AntiWolf, this is not a TLK rumor mill, but TLK rumors are also welcomed, I supose.
I think that that kids rumor is not true. sounds a little bogus to me.
Paww, all four CotPL can be found here:
Chronicles of the Pride Lands
The Spirit Quest
Shadows of the Makei
Under The Acacias
these are the ACTUAL files, not a link to a page that has links to a page that has links to the files! so just go to these address and you're there!
Many more fan fics can be found on Ryan McGinnis's text archive

Dara, I love it when you call the Titanic "boat"... LOL
anyway, it ok I guess, but not THAT good as people say it was!
there's a sequel you know!!! how can there be a sequel?!
who'd be stupid anough to take another ride on a ship called "Titanic"?! (:

Hey, I've noticed something weird about Kovu.
He has this white stripe on his nose.
no, not on. kinda above it. look at the litho (of the one
where he's an adult). and also in the kid's cub. you know,
the Kovu kid's cub that we see in the image KH#1's
posted here, that has lots of merchandise.
weird thing is, the litho of cub Kovu does'nt have this stripe!
so what's going on??? first adult Kovu has it but not cub Kovu,
then cub Kovu DOES have it!
Other merchadise do not feature this stripe, but there ARE
some grabs that feature it.
But, what I cant get is, you know that Nala has a fade white aboce her nose?
Well, I thought that's what Kovu had, couse sometimes the stripe is fade.
but other times, its solid and its a real stripe!
I DO know this, until this matter is resolved, I'm on stripe... (:

we are on stripe


Aug 10 - 13:50

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

I had this weird dream last night that I was in the audience of a David Letterman show and I won a copy of Simba's Pride! I was so excited and was rushing home to watch it and post it on the rumour mill, but just as I was putting the tape in the VCR I woke up :(
Krazy Kat, do you know you're a brand name? I just bought this shirt and I looked at the tag and it said Krazy Kat. Just thought I'd share that :)
Hakuna Matada


Aug 10 - 12:31

DARA
FOR THE CHRONICLE SERIES
Location: I MADE A LITTLE MISTAKE
E-mail:

SORRY, MADE A TINY MISTAKE!

THE CHRONICLE SERIES' ADRES IS:

www.lionking.org/text

Leave the .html out!!!

Sorry again!!

Dara


Aug 10 - 11:27

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

PAWW AND ALL OTHERS WHO WOULD LOVE TO READ THE CHRONICLE STORIES....

ONCE AND FOR ALL, YOU CAN GET THE CHRONICLES OF THE LION KING STORIES AT THIS SITE!!!!!

*HERE'S THE ADRESS: www.lionking.org/text.html

JUST GO A BIT DOWN THE PAGE AND YOU'LL FIND THEM. THEY ARE WRITTEN BY DAVID MORRIS AND JOHN BURKITT!
IT ARE 4 STORIES!

1. CHRONICLES OF THE PRIDE LANDS

2. THE SPIRIT QUEST

3. SHADOWS OF THE MAKEI

4. UNDER THE ACACIAS

you'll have to read them in this order, or else the story doesn't make sense and you'll have diffuculties with the names of the characters.

other stories who are related to this:

5. THE LEONID SAGA

6. THE PROMISE

7. TOUCH OF THE NISEI

Please go and read them, they make you feel so wonderfull and they're the best fan-fic I've ever read! You could see it both as the PREQUEL as wel as the SEQUEL of the Lion King.

(phew! I had to scream for so many people ask and it's so easy to find!)

Beerit, I'm on my way to you!

Hong Kong Phooey, Disney has made some good series, for instant Aladdin. Now that's a good serie! It really tells you something. But for the rest.... mmmm, I don't think it's all high quility if ya know what I mean. I would like to see "jungle cubs" we don't have it here. I would like to see all characters young. Oh, and I think Quack Pack is rather funny. I can't believe Disney made this! It's sooooooo much different than the old fashioned cartoons Disney made of Donald Duck. Maybe that's because the did it.

Who is that Raven-guy anyway?? (or maybe girl! Ya never know!) He/she reminds me of Leonardo di Caprio in "Romeo and Juliet" (I thought this movie was better than the "Titanic) but yet, only when I'm bored...

I just read that the Titanic was an even bigger hit here in the Netherlands than the LK!!! TLK is on the second place now! I hate the "Titanic" it wasn't even THAT good! In fact, it was kinda boring... it only became interesting when that boat sank! I still have an aching back because of sitting it that stupid chair all those hours and hours! (sorry Titanic lovers.... I ment no offence)

Caji, you mean, blister packaging with all those nops filled with air, which can pop so nice when you squeeze them??? Is it not a special term used in America for special CD's or something?

Bye ya all!!!


Dara


Aug 10 - 11:23

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@LionKing.org

You are correct about NY and LA, Houston is the 3rd maby 4th largest City in the US, but I fell we do not a lot of new Technology faster than the others Big cities do. Other things like the Disney store, WB store,ETC... we get several and I believe faster. But we are in the middle of the US that is probably why it takes so long for me to get new Tech.


Aug 10 - 10:19

Ducky

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i never heard of that rumor before!(about kids writing tlk) thats kinda cool! well anyway, since i am in atlanta which is a big city, maybe they will have more stuff than in a smaller city like syracuse NY(thats where is live) so im gonna check it out, cause i do believe, like kiara said, that bigger cities get things before smaller cities, which is true. one of my families closets friends used to own a gap clothing store. this was a loooooooooooooooooong time ago cause he did sell it cause it was a pain, and i dont even know what town it was in(it was a small town though) and he learned alot about the product industry. yes, bigger cities w/ bigger populations get things faster than smaller cities because they test them out in bigger cities, if they are popular in big cities, more than likely they will be bigger in smaller cities. also, new york city and LA get things before anyone cause they are on oposite coast and they are the 2 most populated cities(i think) this all might be wrong, but this is what i was told:)


Aug 10 - 10:12

JFT

Location: HOuston, TX
E-mail: JFT@LionKing.org

Ok, this is it. My friend has finally got the movie after I mailed it to him last Monday. His computer is compiling the information and he hopes he can post it onto the net around Noon his time.

I for gto to ask him where hey's going to post it.
Aughhhhhhh.
More when I find out.


Aug 10 - 09:28

Kasi

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I just now went to Lionking.net but the link to acsess the rest of their site is missing!


Aug 10 - 07:16

Matthew Kusiak

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La Rita, there is a Dodger shrine at members.tripod.com/~cool_pup/


Aug 10 - 07:14

Kasi

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Where could I find non-english(French,german,italian,etc) versions of TLK's soundtrack online for buying?
Did anybody knowtes that bin the Land Befor time and in LBFT2 their vare sceens where they say "The Great Circle Of Life"?LBFT1 is good but the sequils arent as good.


Aug 10 - 07:13

Paww
in the mud
Location: The pride lands
E-mail: psychowerewolf@hotmail.com

Where do I go to read the cronicals of TLK!!!! I must know! Now! I want to read about it. I must read about it!


PAWW


Aug 10 - 03:10

AntiWolf

Location: Ga.
E-mail: lisa.beebe@mci2000.com

TLK: Ummm... I heard someone say "Scar suduced Saribia" is that true? But It is said it was cut from it. :(
A big rumor on TLK: I heard that a group of kids really wrote the Lion King! Is that true? I not really good at delevering rumors, but that is one I need an answer for!!! And Soon!!!


Aug 10 - 01:42

Caji

Location: Cleveland
E-mail: Caji@mailcity.com

Hi, just skipping through.
Don't worry about people who say nastey things about The Lion King fandom, if they think it's so "dorky" then why did they visit?

Also, I believe that "blister" means blister packaging. I.E. the CD comes in a mess of plastic typical to Disney.

Happy posting -Caji


Aug 9 - 22:53

Zakiya
President of the LMFC
Location: You are Here! ::points::
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com

HI!

Once again it is I. I'm here to tell you that I posted the dates of when Simba's Pride and Simba's Favorites CD's are coming out. No one posted it before so I thought I'd post it again.

I have some other things to say. Upendi may not be Zulu or Swahili. It could be in Tswana if Lebo M wrote it. He is of Tswana ancestory and does write in Tswana. The song (Track 5 in RotPL) "Lea Halalela" was indeed Tswana as apparent from his Song Inspirations. If you would like to see his song inspirations look at http://www.bdpr.com for more info.

As for JAD and WHO CARES, they are NOT the same person and do not like Lion King as is apparent from a rude email I recieved from both of them. However, if they do send you some rude email, forward it to me and I will report it to my server. It's like I always say,

"They run this way,
They run that way,
They are afraid,
They are cowards."

BTW, That's from "Power of One" soundtrack. Another great Hans Zimmer and Lebo M compilation. It actually came before the Lion King.


Zakiya

PS: Anyone want to hear music from "Power of One" Which was the album that inspired TLK's film makers to bring Hans Zimmer and Lebo in. It's real cool I tell you, with some stuff that they added in Lion King. Must have a .wav player to hear it.


Aug 9 - 22:36

Ducky

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Im gone for 4 days and it takes me a half an hour to skim threw this page!!

since were on this sailor moon topic, id like to share something(i dont know if someone already posted this cause i didnt have time to read all the post so if i did repeat anyone, im sorry)ok, i like sailor moon alot,and other japanimation, but sailor moon is kinda sick! ok, sailor moon is supposed to be like 13-15 and the mask tuxedo(her boyfriend) and her have had "relations". they dont show that on the shows that we see cause we eddited it out, but they didnt in japan! thats why they dont show sailor moon anymore in japan! its still an ok show, it just brings off the wrong typo message for teenage girls.

jenna, im sorta prep too, but not all together, i dress from everywhere, i dont have one type of fation, but i do shop from the places youve said and stuff.

i do like alot of the disney cartoons, especially the old ones i grew up w/ (duck tales, chip and dales rescue rangers,tale spin[i dont think THAT one was that good, but i still watched it) the aladdin series kicked *ss , it was a great save from the return of jafar:) the timon and pumbaa show kinda sucked, but i liked it anyway cause i love timon and pumbaa:) goof troop was ok but i didnt watch that that much, i didnt watch gargoles that much either. now, why they made quake pack ill never know, that was the altime worst insult to huewy, dewy, and lewy i have ever seen! they made them seen like a huge steriotype to teenage boys! if anyone likes that show, i dont meen to affend you, but i cant stand it! they were supposed to make a toy story cartoon but i havent seen it yet.
well, ive podted anough, have a nice day everyone:)


Aug 9 - 22:17

La Rita

Location: ny
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The villaness in sp is supposed to have some song she sings. An evil lullaby. The actress who does her voice was on Late Night with Conan O'Brien.
Does the prince of egypt have anything to do with Bluth. I know katzenburg is invovled with the project.

Is someone making a Dodger Shine or something like that.


Aug 9 - 21:59

RAVEN
POET
Location: UPON YOUR DOOR
E-mail:

My mispent youth, didn't include.....family picknicks, baseball games...hot dogs and apple pie. What is this useless American past time? Times have changed. Tradition bites. Try walking in my shoes.....they all hate me because im different, they said things would get better once i grew older. They lied. I'm still hated because im different. Much like Simba thought his family would think if they ever knew....so let's face it our pasts, make us who we are, we can be hated because of them, and even mentaly crushed....but at least you'll be alive.
QUOTE THE RAVEN.......NEVERMORE.....


Aug 9 - 21:36

LUNA
school
Location: Tx
E-mail: LUNA21483@aol.com

Hi everyone! I'm sort of newbie Lion King: Simba's Pride fan ^^! (Yay Kovu!!!) I was just wondering, but has anyone seen the new Kovu dolls, the one's that are supposed to purr? I haven't found any and I've searched almost every toy store near where I live (including the Disney Store at the mall I live near) and I haven't been able to find any. One another note, I've seen some of the dolls that the Disney store sells and I don't really like them all that much. They don't seem to be made all that well ^^. Sorry! I don't mean to anger anyone! I just don't think that some of their stuffed characters are as good looking as some I've seen before. That's all! I hope The Lion King II comes out soon! I can hardly wait! (Yeah Kovu!) ^_^
Luna


Aug 9 - 20:18

J. Falk

Location: Utica, New York
E-mail: MadGmr@aol.com

First off I would like to apologize to anyone who thinks this post is slightly off topic:

Hello me and a friend have come up with a most unsual idea for a fantasy wrestling league and the rule is that you are limited to celebrities from live action movies and characters from animated movies. Right now we are in need of officials as me and my friend are the only two. Here are the positions open in the ECF (Extreme Celebrity Fighting):
Vice President: Basically the same as the president but his decisions must get approved by the president. This person makes the decisons regarding suspensions in the ECF which must be approved by the president which will be passed on to final judgement to the co-owners who will review the cause for suspension.

President: He/she will be responsible for making key decisions which will be finalized by the two co-owners of the ECF, me (J. Falk/Simba and MANVIN/Mufasa, characters we are using)
Championship Committee (6 slots)These guys are responsible for making the matches and adding any stipulations that the combatants have requested.
Committee Chairman: This person will basically the supervisor of the committee and will make sure that any requested stipulations get added and t ensure that the most deserving fighter will get a shot at whatever title he/she is in contention for.

Titles:

All requests for a title shot must be brought before the championship committee which will decide if the request will be approved if he/she is high enough in the rankings. However, all decisions made by the owners will be final.

First card:

As soon as we get enough officials and wrestlers the first card will be taking place in the Pridelands at PrideRock. For info, send and e-mail to me at MadGmr@aol.com or MANVIN@aol.com.

Sincerely,
J.Falk/Simba
Co-owner/co-founder of the ECF


Aug 9 - 19:58

Snowy

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Kiara, you said that the book comes out the 15th? Very interesting....That's the date that the Disney Channel is showing TLK. Coincidence? I think not!! (Well, maybe a little).
That's enough of me. Bye everybody!


Aug 9 - 19:03

hong kong phooey

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Kasi, no, the Care Bears and Smurfs are NOT from Disney.

Beerit's sweeping generalizations about Disney shows ticks me off!! Beerit, Disney has produced some great animated TV series. I'm curious to find out what you think does not "suck."

I hope that SP book comes out soon so we'll have some news to discuss.


Aug 9 - 18:10

Christian (KH#1)

Location:
E-mail: iluvronco@hotmail.com

Couple things:


1. Does anyone know the URL for the Galaxy search engine.


2. I couldn't find any Kimberly Scott site through Yahoo! either but if anyone knows any website with a pic of her please post the URL here.


3. I couldn't figure out that BLISTER thing either.


4. Beerit, I suppose you could put that stuff up whenever you want. I don't know when I'll be able to. Also, did you make me those backgrounds yet?


5. Can someone make screen grabs from the Mulan tape? Like of the scene with Kiara chasing the butterfly around?


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


We Are One


Aug 9 - 18:06

Raksha
Seeonee Wolves
Location: India
E-mail:

Is it just me, or has there been some serious animation bashing of various sorts around here? It's one thing to say you don't like something, another thing to rip it to shreds. Yeah I know I was putting down Pinnochio and stuff a while back, but I think I shouldn't have since there are folks here who like it. I don't like Pinochio, but that's really all I have to say about it and I'm not going to push my view on it. I'm not saying people shouldn't discuss other movies and stuff, it's just that it's starting to sound a bit malicious around here.
Sorry about getting self-righteous there, I just felt I needed to have a say about it.
~Raksha


Aug 9 - 16:57

Kasi

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I dont like Gargoils either,but the Timon&Pumba serires was kinda funny.Are "Smurfs" and "Care Bears" disney series?I just LOVE the Care Bears.But not as much as TLK:)
I have this thery.You se, my mom's friend's son was exposed to dinosaurs and godzilla(who i personaly do not like being forced to watch by a fat brat known as Chris) and now he is obsesed with dinosaurs and godzila.My theory is if you r exposed to somthing at a young age you are obsesed with that something trough your whole life.


Aug 9 - 16:35

Hong Kong Phooey

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Well Beerit, I guess since you hate Gargoyles everyone in the world should too.

Wait a minute. . . you loved "Hercules"---------Maybe we shouldn't listen to you!


Aug 9 - 15:00

Beerit

Location:
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Dara, yes, I saw the most horrible. oh well I'll tell you in the email.
do you have an email address anyway!?


Aug 9 - 13:30

Dara

Location:
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Beerit, you feel horrible thinking of moms???!
I think I don't get the point... better e-mail ya.
You even don't want to have dinner with me???
Too bad, I cook rather well... Shenzi would love it!

Zakiya, I already told you guys 'bout 'Simba's Favorites'... I went to amazon.com, but there was only the name: "THE LION KING: SIMBA....(BLISTER)"
What does "Blister" means??? a little sample or something? Or a real CD with the origional music of SP?

Maybe the Simba's Favorites CD is something like Rythem of the Pridelands!

Thanks!

Dara


Aug 9 - 13:23

RAVEN
POET
Location: UPON YOUR DOOR
E-mail:

JAD I FEEL YOUR PAIN. They said your Dad would get better. But he didn't...They said you'll feel better in time....but it didn't....your still hated...because you hate TLK. I FEEL YOUR PAIN! QUOTE THE RAVEN.....NEVERMORE....


Aug 9 - 12:38

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

"Chingi-chingi-chingi-chong..."
uh? oh sorry, got the Mulan soundtrack today.
"Somehow I cannot hide, who I am, though I'v tried..."
Story of my life... (: just kidding
"remember who you are"
I always expect her to say "...who I am, deep inside..."
sounds more Disney-like. hmm, well...

Gargoyles is a Disney series?!?!!??!?!?!?! Shocked and astounded, I will
now retrieve to ponder upon this question.
(5 minuted later)
Yes, I believe you, couse Gargoyles SUCKS. sorry, Gargoyles fans, but Gargoyles, and
all Disney shows I've seen suck!!!
(Yes, I know I did'nt see them all, and that Mr. Toad or whatever is great or something, I DID
say "all Disney shows I'V SEEN")
But you can blame it on hebrew dubbing! hebrew sucks! good thing hebrew dubbing only takes place in shows like "smurfs" and "Gargoyles" couse if
movies were dubbed (like in spain! learn english, spain!), I would have surely died!
Yes, its true, in spain, movies are DUBBED!

Uzuri, TLKoB is The Lion King on Brodway.
please, stop asking that, ya'll (I love that word!), just think about it for 2 minutes and it'll be obvious!
if I say "I went to Brodway and watched TLKoB, the acting was great"
or something like that, its clear that I'm talking about a play!
sorry fot taking my "rath" (kinda), on you, Uzuri, its just this is the 1000000 time someone asked that!
I never did, I came up with it alone! why should'nt ya'll out there that dont know this do the same?!

KH#1, I'm taking some of these stuff to my site, ok? but I wont put 'em in my site till they're in yours, couse I wanna be fair, you got 'em first
NO Kimberly Scott sites in Yahoo! just Kimberly Scott couches or something. sorry
(talking like I'm reading from a piece of paper):'Gee, I wonder if the email "Who cares!" left is real. hmm... >puts her hand on her chin<
Nop, I dont think so...'
JAD, if you DID like HANSON, you'd REALLY be a looser... And I will not be surprised if JAD and WHO CARES are the same person.
well, whatever, just wanted to comment my thoughts.
Dara, Disney can do whatever they feel like doing, but basicly, Kiara, Simba, Kovu and the rest has to stay, couse we've seen them!
Thanks for the mommy tip, Dara, but... uh, I feel horrible thinking about moms.
egh... my tummy feels funny. I saw a movie. oh, god, I'm gonna puke!
If you want any more datails about the movie that made my mama-fobia, email me and
I'll send you the gruesome details of yesterday's horrifying events.
or I can tell you here in the mill, but It'll be WAY off topic so I'd better not.
oh, I'm not kidding, I'm really feeling sick here...
Dara, I think I'll skip dinner... (: ... ):

we are one

p.s. SP talk alone will get most of us to leave before the week is over!
Another great thing about the mill is that we're friends, but how can we be friends based on SP talk alone?
p.s.s. if we're starting to label people here, can I be "cat women"? no?


Aug 9 - 12:38

Kasi

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Some of the plushes from TLK look a little weird.
I have one of those Simba dolls that has a magnet in the nose and comes with a Nala that has a magnet in here nose.Only i got mine at a yardsale for $0.50(goody)and they didnt have the Nala,but anyways...When i pulled back the tuff of hair on top of his head he looked like the Kiara beanie. What's with that?Dose anybody know where to find non-USA copies of the TLK soundtrack online?


Aug 9 - 08:34

Alexander

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Raksha, I have a feeling that the Simba and Nala bean bags at the Disney Store are getting re-designed. There is a rumor that they will be retired, but I wonder if they are just preparing for new versions of the characters. The Disney Store now has bean bag key chains and one of them is of Simba----and he looks much more like he did in the movie (the tuft of fur on his head, the black circles on the ears, the fur at the end of his tail).


Aug 9 - 08:34

Raksha

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About my comment on SP beanies, I only meant the Simba and Kiara ones. The Kovu one is really adorable. I didn't check the brand name on those, but it was a whole rack of them at my nearest Disney Store - Kiara's coloration makes her look like Nala, and Simba doesn't have the classic tuft of fur on his head so he looks like Kiara. If there are better ones, I haven't seen them yet.
I had this terrible dream last night, where I saw SP and there wasn't a single song--No We Are One, no Upendi--Ugh, what a horrible nightmare!!!
Busa ngo xolo~~


Aug 9 - 08:25

Alexander

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Arctus, I believe the Gargoyles episodes running on USA are all repeats. You aren't missing anything new.

I agree that the "Goliath Chronicles" was not up to the standards of the original series. However the Chronicles were largely produced under contract by Nelvana Entertainment in Canada, and not by Disney TV Animation.

Someone mentioned that the SP beanies looked "deformed." Which are you talking about?!?! The Disney Store and Applause ones are the best-looking bean bags I've seen!! I guess you're talking about the Mattel ones.


Aug 9 - 07:52

Arctus
BearPaw Productions
Location: Jax, FL
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org

Just a few things. First of all, posts like those two spams below are nothing more than blatant attempts to get attention and upset the readers here. My recommendation:

Ignore them. Don't send e-mail to them, don't write any more about it here. The more attention we give them, the more encouragement they have to continue. Nuff said.

Alexander, Raksha, and JFT, thanks for the continued Gargoyles discussion. One of the most disappointing things they did was to cut the story line at the dawning of Goliath and Elisa's relationship and segue into The Goliath Chronicles... OY! It was more than irritating, it was downright insulting. But, typical of commercial broadcasting, eh?

Without cable TV, I'm unable to view the series on USA Network, so I'm wondering if the show is currently running new episodes, or are they rehashing the three seasons that made it during Disney's run?

I'm definitely going to be checking out my local Disney store for those new SP items, as well as TBC on video and some other goodies that I can't afford... hee hee!

Keep up the postings, TLK lovers! Hakuna Matata!

Arctus


Aug 9 - 00:41

Jenna

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NALA - Yay!!! another prep. the bad thing is, there's no Old Navy or Gap close by. 45 minutes away!!! :( Or Disney store. I do have the Limited. Do you like Daria? I live in a city between Baton Rouge and New Orleans LA, so either way is about 45 minutes. But, I'm going to Baton Rouge tomorrow so I can go shop for my birthday!!! YAY!!!!!! By birthday is on the 27th!!! Does anyone else go to YERF.com?


Aug 9 - 00:01

JAD

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GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!

YOU ALL SUCK!!!!!!

I DON'T LIKE HANSON BY THE WAY. I LIKE MARLYN MANSON!! I'M ALSO A GIRL TOO!!!!!

LION KING SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!

KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!

Breeze and I ROCK MAN!!!!!!!!

JAD


Aug 8 - 23:42

Who cares!

Location:
E-mail: Breeze2363@aol.com

LION KING SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU ALL SUCK BIG A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KISS MY A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BYE SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Aug 8 - 23:39

Zakiya
Official President of the Lebo M Fan Club
Location:
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com

I GOT IT!!!!!!

CHECK OUT AMAZON!!!!!!!!!

THERE ARE TWO SIMBA"S PRIDE BOOKS! One is due out in October and it costs $5.59.The other is different and is the same price.

Amazon also sells music!!!!! Simba's Pride CD and Simba's Favorite's CD is coming September 29 an Amazon sells them both at the same price for $12.99 each.

Barne and Noble has several Simba's Pride books. Look at their page too. I'm going with Costco though because they will probably sell the 2 CD's together for $14.99 and the books together too. If not, I'll get my CD's at Best Buy for 10.99 CD.

That is all from the Queen of Lion King.

Zakiya


Aug 8 - 22:17

Zakiya
Official President of the Lebo M Fan Club
Location: Sweet Home Rialto!
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com

Hey pals, how have you been?

Ok, anyone got August edition of the Disney Catalog? Check out page 32 for pics of young Kovu and Kiara.

Um, Voice From The Clouds, do not post anything like that on me again without reading something VERY carefully or you will have to beware. You are very lucky that I did not get mad. I'm not a hypocrite. Self explaintory.

About Deeper Meaning, to find out more about that email me or post your email address on the Mill for a special trial period of the Lebo M Newsletter. Only 5 people are recieving it tommorrow. It has a Discography of Lebo's CDs.

Steele, tell me about what you and Lebo did when you guys met. I'm dying to meet Lebo. I'm his greatest fan and have 4 of his CDs.

About that one song, Upendi or something, I'll email a friend of mine to see if it is on Deeper Meaning.

Also, a place you might want to try and see if they have the Simba's Pride books is in two web sites. One is Barnes and Noble, http://www.barnesandnoble.com, and the other is Amazon, http://www.amazon.com. Amazon may have it availible to order online as well as Barnes. try them both. Or if your town or a town near you has a Costco or a Price Club check them out. I'll be in Costco's tommorrow or Monday and will give a report. Costcos (Price Club as it is sometimes called) sells things in the bulk cheap. They will have a gift package of all the SP characters on sale next month or in Oct. They always have the best TLK stuff for less than others.

Zakiya


Aug 8 - 21:55

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@linking.org

Ok, I saw Gargoyles on the USA cable network but it dosent feel the same as when it was on broadcast so I don't watch it anymore.

Back to SP, My friend finally got the video but the Post Office closed befor he could pick it up. SO he will get it Monday and he claimes it should be online by Noon his time. Till then.


Aug 8 - 20:38

Raksha

Location: Seeonee River Valley
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Well Laurie, from what I've seen, Sailor Moon is a teenage heroine who fights in a little skirt. I'm not too fond of Sailor Moon myself, but on the other hand I admittedly liked Pocahontas so I'm through insulting other animation genres and stuff.
I feel I must have a say on Gargoyles: that show was awesome while it lasted. It was my favorite show for two years, but it eventually got tiresome, and the Goliath Chronicles completely ruined any chance the original had of a graceful exit.
On the SP front, aren't the Kiara and Simba beanies deformed? They're so messed up I thought Simba was Kiara and Kiara was Nala until I read the tags. And what I want to know is, where ARE the Nala beanies??
Well, Hakuna Matata, We Are One, Busa blah blah blah etc.


Aug 8 - 20:35

Laurie

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What is Sailor Moon?


Aug 8 - 19:24

Alexander

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Christian, thanks for providing the Applause SP pictures. The merchandise looks great. I can't seem to get all of the second picture though. I'm kind of impatient.

Don't lynch me, this is off-topic, but as long as people post off-topic things, I feel the need to discuss them:

I too liked the animated series "Gargoyles," but the fact is that its ratings weren't strong enough to keep it going. If you recall, ABC ran "Gargoyles: the Goliath Chronicles" and it did not get picked up for a second season. "Gargoyles" had quite a selection of spin-off merchandise but I guess it didn't sell as well as was hoped.

Something else may have contributed to its demise: The Disney Afternoon started deteriorating a couple years ago as affiliates were taken over by the WB or Fox. Disney Afternoon got split up and its shows aired in some areas in the less desired early morning slots.

I believe Disney now has a deal with UPN and The Disney Afternoon might be back in full force soon.

And for the record, "Gargoyles" is not off the air. You can still see the series (in the US anyways) on the USA Network.

To get even further off-topic, the show that debuted on the Disney Afternoon about the same time as "Gargoyles"------"The Shnookums and Meat Funny Cartoon Show"--------had zero merchandise (except for canned pasta) and great ratings, but Disney canceled the show.


Aug 8 - 18:55

Zinou

Location: Ngorongoro
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Wow, looks like you guys have really got a lot accomplished in postings -- not. ;p


I went to the Disney Store today, and did an SP check ( And got my Kiara puppet, and lithograph! Joy!)

Here's what I saw:
The Action Figures
A bazillion plushies of Kovu and Kiara in a pile
in the back ( O.O )
A ceramic Kovu
A ceramic Kiara with a dirty looking muzzle
A cool little box with one of those turning-things -that change pictures when you move it things on top
The UGLIEST[design wise, not the screenprint] kids shirt on the planet ( w/a pic of Kovu and Kiara on the front)
A snow globe that had timon and pumbaa with a lot of JCWTBK animals surrounding them, ( they were ion some water) and Kiara and Kovu posing in the globe
That all famous picture frame with Vitani on it
Annd a bajillion beanie Kovus. Thass'all ! Bye!
-=Zinou=-


Aug 8 - 18:18

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Shenzi,
To me, Disney animation and Anime (Japanimation) are two totally different things, seeing as they're done in a different style. Sailor Moon, to me at least, can't be compared to TLK or any other Disney movie. In my mind they do not compete; My favorite animated movies are The Lion King, Oliver and Company, and Balto; and they each have their own special place in my heart (Along with Dumbo, Lady and the Tramp and a few others) And Sailor Moon is in there too, although that's not a movie, it's a series....well, they each have their own place in my mind and they live in harmony. ;-)

~Krazy Kat~


Aug 8 - 18:17

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

I checked at a Barnes and Noble yesterday, but the guy behind the counter said it wouldn't be out untill the 15th... If anyone gets the book before I do, remember to e mail me the story, please!


Aug 8 - 17:45

Der König

Location: Germany
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I just hope they don't screw up the marvellous setting in SP like Hollywood keeps doing in weak sequels. It would be such a shame to see TLK's magic just flowing away like blood in monsoon rain...


Aug 8 - 12:51

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

Wow, it's slow today, not many people have posted anything yet.
I have nothing to add about SP. Just wanted something to get posted here :)


Aug 8 - 12:13

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala612@hotmail.com OR Nala413@hotmail.com

Haha! This is one happy Nala! I just got back into my old mail! Yea! No one has found the book yet? Hmmm...I'll call the Barnes and Noble in D.C. and see if they have it in...that's weird.

Jenna--I amm a definate prep! I wear The Limited, Gap and Old Navy all the time! I'm glad to know that someone else does too!

Kasi--I have cable only for the Disney Channel and now it sucks. They changed all the times, and now T&P comes on at 1:30. I'm at work at 1:30. Don't those people ever think?

About that Sercial, $2050 bucks??? Hey--I found the one of Simba and Nala on Pride Rock from the end of the movie for $2850. I want it sooo bad! I tried to convince my dad to buy it for me when we were at Disneyland. But he said no. Phoohey!

There's not much to say, but I'm very happy! Well, hafta go now, and head to the D. Store, just to see what they got! Let's see how high the credit cards can go! Bye!

Hugs and Nuzzles--

Nala


Aug 8 - 11:06

Raksha
Seeonee Wolf Pack
Location: R. Seeonee
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I have a question for anyone who's seen TLKoB...I saw it in Minneapolis before it even went to Broadway (hehe, that's the only good thing that ever came of living here) and I could've sworn that when the lionesses are gathered around Mufasa's body and Rafiki is standing on one side of the tree chanting, wasn't young Nala standing on the other side and singing/chanting also? I was sure she was, but when I got the Broadway recording, she wasn't. Perhaps they changed it, but I was really certain Nala sang there. Am I delusional??


Aug 8 - 09:43

Kasi

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I think songs help tell the story.Like in the Hakuna Matata sceen if they didnt have a song it would just be some borring yadda about Pumba's farts.I also like Sailor Moon.I used to tape it every day till they moved it to cable.I think Disney art is better then Japanese art.But both are verry good.I didnt like Gargoils much.
Kasi


Aug 8 - 08:29

shenzi

Location: LI, Ny
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thanx christian for the sp merchandise pics. Krazy Kat, sailor moon is cool. i used to watch it, but now its on one of the cable channels. do you like japanese animation better than disney animation ? i have a friend who does. we had a looong arguement over the phone once. she says disney animtion is unrealistic and she hated tlk because the characters broke into song and the lions didn't look real enough. she sure got me riled up ! Dara, anne rice is an author whoes pretty popular in the U.S. one of her books, Interview with the Vampire, was made into a movie a few years ago. tom Cruise and Brad Pitt are in the movie. most of her books are about vampires and that sort of thing, except the beauty books. Jenna, i shop at the gap and at old navy. thabise, there is an early version of cyftlt sung by pumbaa and timon. its in my tlk screenplay. arctus, i was pissed when disney dropped gargoyles. i thought it was the best thing they had done for tv animation in a long time. it put earlyer disney cartoons such as darkwing duck and goof troop to shame and got me thinking why didn't they do something like this before ? Beerit, don't feel bad about wanting to see poco 2. we are only human and all have our falts. Just kidding. i kind of want to see it too. there better be an sp preview on it ! i'm going to check out your site now, i haven't been there in ages. Hakuna Matata !


Aug 8 - 08:02

Kasi

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I think they finished drawing the pics for Simba's Pride and their making spesial efects and testing it and all so when they release it to vidio it wont have spots where it's messed up and all.
Kasi


Aug 8 - 07:11

Christian

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Oops! I made everything bold. What else do you expect at 4:22 AM? I guess it makes things easier to read, though.


Aug 8 - 04:23

Christian

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Also: Can anyone point me to a picture of Kimberly Scott on the web?

KH#1


Aug 8 - 04:18

Christian (KH#1)

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Here's a little bit of new stuff: Kristin Cheddar e-mailed me some scans she made of stuff Applause sent her. I'm going to eventually put it on my site but thought I'd make it available for all my friends on the ever lively rumor mill right now. They take a little while to download, but not too bad.



Some SP Items


Some More SP Items



Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)
Aug 8 - 03:42

Arctus
BearPaw Productions
Location: Jax, FL
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org

In Zakiya's defense, Voice From The Clouds, the subject of Bambi vs. TLK sticks pretty much to the relevant theme of TLK. A comparison of the movie this site was built to worship (sorry, Brian) is still a major part in the topic, so I don't really think that Zakiya is or has been a hypocrite.

Now, if we want to start labelling people here, Voice From The Clouds, why not put your e-mail address and name on your post next time instead of slinging anonymous messages, hmm? Just a thought.

However, I still think that getting off the beaten path every now and then is good for this group... keeps it active and provokes more stimulating conversation surrounding the movie. If we get TOO far off, I'm sure the webmaster will put us back in line, don't y'all think?

Nuff of me...

Hakuna Matata, and puh-leeze remember, WE ARE ONE!

Arctus


Aug 8 - 02:05

Jenna

Location: www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/4569/
E-mail: Jenna591@hotmail.com

Isn't beastility sex with animals? Also, is anyone here a prep who likes to shop at the Gap and old navy? just curious. Only 19 days till my birthday!!!!!!!!!!!! :)


Aug 7 - 23:36

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

::Gasp!:: Uzuri?! I can't believe after having been around us TLKers for a while, and you, also a proffesional TLKer (I hope) don't know what TLKoB is. Well, I'll tell you the answer but you'd better get to doing your Hail Sarabi's. ;-) TLKoB= The Lion King on Broadway....which I so BADLY want to see! For those of you who have seen it consider yourselves blessed with that treat!!

~Krazy Kat~


Aug 7 - 17:57

Uzuri
No job and still care free!!!
Location: Around Pride Rock
E-mail: I still don't know..

Okay, I don't have much to say because I griped about every thing yesterday. My only question is: What is TLKoB?????
Well that's all. C-YA!


Aug 7 - 17:49

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

Gargoyles wasn't all that dark, I like Gargoyles. I think about the darkest Disney cartoon ever made was The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Maybe _dark_ isn't the word I'm looking for, it was _intense_
It had more of an adult theme and the music was pretty dark. Also there was that one spot when that demon statue came to life and that guy, whats his name fell into that lake of fire. That part where they had Quasimodo tied up and everyone was throwing things and he was bleeding was pretty intense too. I definatly wouldn't suggest it for little kids.
How come when I try to post something while using Opera it just skips to the Thank You for Contributing page?


Aug 7 - 16:56

Voice from the clouds

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Well Zakiya, you managed to contradict yourself in the same message.

First you said this:

"This non-Simba's Pride posting thing has got to stop! We don't give a rats' butt about these other silly movies unless they pertain to the Lion King OK?"

Then you went on to say this:

"Oh, I almost forgot. Anyone here watch Bambi and notice the similarities to Lion King?" etc..

Zakiya, try following your own advice before ordering everyone else around. I think "hypocrite" is the term used to describe people such as yourself...


Aug 7 - 12:45

Arctus
BearPaw Productions
Location: Jax, FL
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org

Hey there, y'all. :)

Dara, yeah, I think that Disney can pretty much do whatever the heck they want to do with the story before release. Heck, when Beauty & The Beast was in mid-production, Disney fired the directors and producers (I think both, anyway) and hired the new staff that came in, looked at what was being done, trashed 90% of it (or some large percentage like that) and started all over, new script and ideas.

So, yeah, to answer your question, I think they can. Whether or not they will at this point is unlikely, considering they would have to push back the release date should gross modifications be necessary.

As for discussing other movies, I hardly see a problem there. The majority of the discussion here focuses on TLK and SP and TLKoB, but should a conversation tangent slightly, what's the major problem, y'all? Let's all practice some deep breathing and keep up the kewl discussions! I certainly like to hear what everone has to say!

Okie, laters.

Arctus


Aug 7 - 12:18

Steele
Just being a Husky
Location: Lost in the snow
E-mail: Smoke signal

Yes Kasi, a group of us had the pleasure of meeting Lebo and others from TLKoB. We met them before and after the very last showing in Minneapolis, right before it officially went to Broadway. I also was lucky enough to be at the very first showing ever, with all the technical problems. ;) It was so incredible the first night I actually got sick from the excitement. :P
Took several hours afterwards for my stomach to feel alright and for my headache to go away. If there are any doubters out there I can send pics, I can also send scans of all 3 tickets for the 3 times I was there. Lebo had us sit down with him at an outdoor cafe behind the Orpheum Theatre, so the pics are of us, as he put it, being "cool" in the chairs, he is a great and fun person in r/l. :)


Aug 7 - 12:10

Dara

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Indeed Arctus! the Gargoyles series are dark! At first I thought it was not a Disney serie.

I was thinking.... do you guys think Disney can still change the plot of SP (a little) before the release date?

Beerit, don't despare... we all know how you've been busy! Everybody could forget his or hers moms birthday.

I just made my parents a dinner (the recept I got from a collegue). I thought it would be great!! It was something with potatos who I had to prepare in the microwave.... it tasted awful, the were anything exept well done! Man! I felt dissapointed!!! And now my stomach looks en feels like I'm pregnant!! Man, this has nothing to do with SP or whatever, but I need to get rid of my bad cooking experience!!

Zakiya, in the Netherlands, TLK soundtrack has the "Hyenas" track too. I think it's super, and I'm wondering why the English version doesn't have it!

Well, gotta go now.... I need to lie down to get my normal figure back I think.

Dara

*if ya ever wanted to visit me.... I would make you a nice meal!!......*


Aug 7 - 10:59

Kasi

Location:
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You met Lebo?Kewl!
Kasi


Aug 7 - 10:09

Steele
Being a Husky
Location: Anchorage
E-mail: Telegraph

Quick question:
Does anyone here know when Deeper Meaning will be released? I have known of the Album since I met Lebo at TLKoB last year. :D But I have never seen a release date.....


Aug 7 - 09:59

Zakiya

Location:
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com

OK! This non-Simba's Pride posting thing has got to stop! We don't give a rats' butt about these other silly movies unless they pertain to the Lion King OK?

OK. Heres something I bet no one posted before. Is anyone here from France or Germany with the Lion King Original Soundtrack?

I bet you all are wondering why I asked that. It is because on those soundtracks (German and French versions only) there is an extra Zimmer track. It's called "Hyenas." Go to Brian Tiemann's Hans Zimmer Worship Page in the "Goodies" section of this web page for more info.

Also, everyone with a Lion King Soundtrack, look at the CD or Cassette insert and find the name Nick Glennie-Smith. That is the guy who has scored Simba's Pride.

Another thing, this is from the Lebo M Fan Club Newsletter, Simba's Pride contains music from Rhythm of the Pride Lands and Deeper Meaning. Deeper Meaning for those of you who don't really care is Lebo M's second album.

I do have another thing, did anyone see the Young Musicians Orchestra thing on Disney Channel? Man did it suck! They did Circle of Life from Lion King and the kids singing it sang awful. They mispronounced words and had absolutly no feeling for the song. Their conductor sang the beginning part and he sounded bad too. He was a Lebo M wanna be. I just have two words, IT SUCKED!

Oh, I almost forgot. Anyone here watch Bambi and notice the similarities to Lion King? I mean both Bambi and Simba were princes' both had friends, both fell in love, both ended the movies standing on a rock with their babies. I have more similarities but that will come later.

That is all from me.

Zakiya

PS: Another thing, does anyone want to know how Hans Zimmer got to score Lion King? Brian don't tell anyone!


Aug 7 - 09:34

Kasi

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This stinks.I was trying to get a IM thingie so I tried Kasi but it said that name was in use so i tried KasiTL and it said that their was an error plese try again in 24 hrs.If you want to IM me u can use my Petz IM thing at GarciaTGR
Kasi
May The FORCE Be With You.


Aug 7 - 09:32

Kasi

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Dose anybody here have a scanner i can borrow?
*wuhHAHA!*Just jokin'!I think I'm a little crazy.How do you record stuff into realaudio files?I think the early version of CUFTLT is nice and i hate the STUPID TAB KEY!!!!!!!!!WHY DID THEY INVENT THE TAB KEY!?!Is Vitinami(i stink at spelling) a goodguy or bad?
Kasi
Thank GOSH it's FRIDAY!


Aug 7 - 09:08

Kasi

Location:
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Dose anybody here have a scanner i can borrow?
*wuhHAHA!*Just jokin'!I think I'm a little crazy.How do you record stuff into realaudio files?I think the early version of CUFTLT


Aug 7 - 09:04

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Kasi, I got my computer for my 12th birthday.
I had no idea how to use it, but a great light came and showed me the way...
chorus (in a heavenly voice): Haaaaa ...
I dont get Disney channel here too.
our cabel system is TOTALLY differant then the one in the US. when I came to the US I had no idea what was going on. Disney channel, WB chanel, nicoloden channel... out here we have movie channel, family channel, children's channel... and they feature showes from all the channels in the US. Weird.
I wish we DID get Disney channel here. ):

Krazy Kat, sorry for the last post! Every time I read the mill zillion of things pop into my head.
I'd love to get a list of SP merch and where you can get it! um, this is gonna sound like a little too much, but if you have pics of the merchandise that'll be great too.
send me that Vitani pic you made ok?
Oh, I loaded the CYFTLT early version a WHILE back. it was nice, but didnt really worth the 5 MB to tell you the truth.
Again, if you want MP3 files from all kinds of places (RotPL, TLK soundtrack...) I suggest you go to www.lionking.net
the MP3 files section is closed right now but go there when its open, ITS WORTH IT!!!!!
dont talk about birthdays, I feel awful about forgetting my mom's!!! she said she didnt mind, but I still feel like scum... ):

"Farewell!" >gun shot<


Aug 7 - 08:14

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Hey all,

I think I just spent an hour reading Beerit's post. ;-) Eh, Beerit, I know a lot of the SP Merchandise, well, not ALL of it, My Disney store's a little behind..I could E-Mail you a list of everything I know, if ye want.

Kasi, It's spelled Vitani. =) I just did a sketch of Adult Vitani too...but she looks more like an overgrown cub..if only I could draw better. I'm sure your's 'll be better.

I'm visiting the mall today to find my dad a Birthday present (His Birthday's tomorrow-I'm a little late with this stuff, hmm?) and I'll probably stop by the DS and see if there's anything new. I might even pick up a Nala figurine.

I just HAVE to make a few more comments on All Dogs Go To Heaven Two after Beerit mentioned it. To put it Bluntly, THIS SEQUEL DID NOT MAKE ANY SENSE!!! The first one took place in New Orleans, 1939. Now, in the begginning of the second one, the little dog Itchy dies and comes up to heaven with Charlie. Now, we can plainly see this takes place present-day. Now..if I'm right, I'm sure that dogs don't live that long! What's up with those people?! Plus barely any of the voices were correct, the songs SUCKED, and the animation was flat. Bah, sad follow-up to such a nice little movie..

This was posted and commented on a while back, but I thik it would be a great twist if the hyenas joined forces with Simba's pride to fend off the Outsiders. Like the Outsiders should be angry with the hyenas as well as Simba, because they were really who killed Scar.

About the early, CYFTLT, I think it's okay but it wouldn't mix in with the story right, something like Artcus said.

Well, that's all, folks.

We Are One
Busa Simba iyo
Hakuna Matata
And all that other Spiffy stuff,
~*Krazy Kat*~

"And Where the Journey
May Lead You
Let this Prayer
Be Your Guide
Though it May Take You
So Far Away
Always Remember Your
Pride..." -Shadowland, TLKoB.


Aug 7 - 07:50

Kasi

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Gosh i wish i had cable!Or atlest the disney channle.Howmany people here practicaly live on the computer,besides me?Cool simba calculator.I wonder why the Kovu magic towl's eyes arent completly colored in.Oh well,Hakuna matata.I wonder howcome The oficial lionking webpaGE is under construction.It'z ben thatway for monthes.What day is it?I hope its friday because Sabrina and Teen Angle(2 FUNNY shows on ABC)come on fridays.I'm in my friday wakup mood so it must be friday.Monday's and thursdays i have a tendancy to be pissed in the mornings.I dont know why.I think it is from having to go to school and be torcherd by the other kids.I'm begining to wander from the subject.Dose anybody know if Vitini(or however you spell it)is good or bad because i'm going to make som guses and draw what she MIGHT look like as an adult.Then i'll compare my doodle with rthe movie doodle and se how close i get.


Aug 7 - 06:54

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~Ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

My name is Kiara and it will always be my name, I supose you're right, but nobody really cares, I mean, its just the nickname!!!!!!
I dont mean to sound like I think you're stupid or anything, if that's what you think.
I just shrug and say it does'nt matter...
Zakiya, nobody believed you cousin, SP is'nt even FINISHED yet!
and if you did believe, you should'nt just believe like that without thinking.
its just like that stupid post about brian closing his site, or pooh hater's message that he has original SP stuff.
yhea, right! (:
ok, I love Daria. I like it better then Bevis & Butthead. naturally, couse it HAS dialog and does not mainly consist of "ffff" and "I am cornholio!".
But I hate shows that dont seem to be getting us anywhere.
like murphy brown, seinfeld, and frasier. well, actually I loved seinfeld, but JUST because the writing ruled!
If you just sit and tell jokes its not enough. you need to lIKE the character, what I cant do with these shoes! (seinfeld is an exeption!)
I supose the only reason I ever see TV is for 90210, party of five (I'm really bugging you, are'nt I, shenzi?), Freakazoid or ned and stacy.
yhea, ned and scacy in perticular!!!!!
hmm... never seen the ADGTH sequel? dont tell me charlie's spirit comes to guide the now 19 year old kid to a party or something?!
Zakiya, really? are they new pics in the catalog? could someone scan 'em PLEASE!!!

Dont come running at me with spiked clubs or anything, but I kinda like it when its all quiet here.
hmm, merchandise here, merhcndise there. some new pics maybe, but its simply HORRIBLE when there's a new preview!!!!!!
egh, its a "preview-holia". we cant stop talking about it!!!!
"I want this, I want that, you see this, you do that..." its just anoying!
The only good thing about it is that, hey, there's a new preview! (:
sangoma, no, I'm pretty sure its Kovu. the coloring is not lighter, but DARKER!
his mane was never black. he has a brown mane all along.
one bugging thing about SP, that was NOT on TLK:
The character's keep changing!!!!
example: sometimes Kiara is as big as Simba's head, sometimes she's half his size, but its always when she's a cub, its not a cub-teen change!

Kasi, I disagree with you on the Dumbo thing, but think whatever you want. Its a free web...
HOW CAN YOU THINK THAT?!?!?!?
Sorry. I just really love it. I liked the animation was so simple.
no weird backgrounds, just some white with coffie stains on it, now that's a picture!!!
And Dara, I think you knew I was gonna say this but:
Childhood movies rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pinochio better then TLK?! they've gotta be jokin'?!
Uzuri, there will be 6 (6 is'nt it?) NEW songs in SP. we know the names of two. We are one and upendi.
uh. that's all I know... (:
Raven, the Simba-Timon-teeth pic you talked about? you can find it on Ryan's Lion pic archive.
Kiara, I hope TLK has a preview! even though everyone will go balistic on me...
am I the only normal human being in this mill? oh, I'm not even that...
A little birdie, that colculater rules. where is it from, maybe there's more cool stuff from where it came from!
and where did you find that song?!?!?!?!??!
I want to know!!!!!!! I NEED to know!!!!!!!


Hey, I need a list of all the SP merchadise and where you can get it!
I lost THE ENTIRE MERCHANDISE PAGE I MADE which I read ALL the posts about merchandise in the last two weeks to make!!!!!!!!!
>WEEP!!!!!!!!!< Now I have to redo it! help me, my friends! help me get the list back!
I already got some of it from KH#1's (I dont want to write you long name all the time, sorry!) page, but its only Kiara stuff!

Best of luck in future projects

question: Have you ever found ANYBODY who understands the stupid plot twists in Melrose Place? email me... (:

p.s. egh...
I watched the Pochahantes preveiw and felt like seeing the movie...
I feel so dirty......


Aug 7 - 01:08

Arctus
BearPaw Productions
Location: Jax, FL
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org

Well, this won't be the first time I've taken an unpopular stance on something, nor will it be the last.

I don't think that the duet version of CYFTLT found on one of the early trailers for TLK is *that* good. Of course, this is all opinion (as are those who say it's the "good version"), and I'll try to explain myself with a brief summation.

The arrangement is lackluster, drawn out, and pretty much identical to the Elton John recording on the TLK soundtrack. Of course, that's probably because in the initial development stages, Elton and Tim beat out this rendition for purposes unbeknownst to us. The vocalists on the recording sound like studio artists used for demo material, and not the top-notch performers like Joseph Williams and Sally Dworsky who eventually voiced the singing roles of Simba and Nala.

Beyond that, the lyrics and music are non-developmental (save for the key change near the end of the song). The lyrics fail to develop a theme (or, a theme that furthers a plot). In contrast, the movie version of CYFTLT found on the TLK soundtrack sung by Dworsky, Williams, Nathan Lane, Ernie Sabella and Crystal Edwards is extreeeeeemely developmental. Nuff said, as I'm sure you all get my point.

Basically, I'm unimpressed with the early duet version. For a better duet version, I encourage all listeners to pick up the TLK: Broadway Cast Recording and listen to CYFTLT. Not only does the song follow the original score, it also entails a vocal duet between Simba and Nala and a very nice classical variation on the theme.

Okie, nuff from me.

Hakuna Matata
Arctus


Aug 7 - 00:34

Arctus
BearPaw Productions
Location: Jax, FL
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org

Just a thought or two on Alexander's note below... okay, quite a ways below, but it's still there. :)

I agree, it's nice to see that Disney is giving TBC another chance, and I find it just a bit more of a blessing considering the movie was just about considered black-listed due to its dark nature.

Agreed, many other Disney movies (not just animated) have had poor theatrical debuts, but the comparisons end there when referring to TBC and all other Disney animated feature films. Not since Fantasia have they ever done anything so dark (save for Beauty & The Beast, but c'mon, it's a love story with a TON of comedy overtones). It is also the only animated feature film they've done to date that has received a PG rating, as far as I know, anyway (and please correct me if I'm wrong about this).

Also, I think the darkest thing that Disney has done at all since TBC is Gargoyles, the show and movie. The whole concept was extremely dark, and (surprise, surprise) they pulled it from the air after three seasons. In fact, the first two seasons were, in my opinion, some of the best television animated shows I've seen in quite some time.

Oh, and about Disney changing the ending from the original story: isn't that pretty much why the term Disney-style means that all factual information in a story is altered to fit into an archetypal format that viewing audiences will devour?

RE: Simba's Pride
(and y'all thought I didn't care)

Obviously, I'm as excited as the next fan about getting all the goodies. I'm anticipating the soundtrack release and perhaps this additional production piece associated with the movie. Does anyone have any solid dates as to a release on the soundtrack (if any) ???

Hakuna Matata, We Are One, Busa Simba, and Look Out, Your Zipper's Open!!!

(grins) Did you look? ;)

Later, y'all.

Arctus


Aug 7 - 00:06

Ithabise
Admitted Bluthgirl...
Location: In front of a computer with Win3.1...
E-mail: jesspark@citrus.infi.net

Oh, thanks, little birdie! :D If that's the "early" version.. wow!

Only one problem: I can't listen to it, since I'm stuck with Win3.1, and I don't have an MPEG player... nor can I use the latest version of RealAudio. :(

Any kind souls out there who could convert that to a .WAV file? Again, it'd be greatly appreciated!

And, in SP news: I just saw the SP trailer on "The Black Cauldron"... wow, again! I have to admit, I've had doubts about SP, given how Disney's handled DTV releases in the past... but this trailer literally gave me goosebumps. Wow, for the third time. Any misgivings I've had about SP in the past have been nicely abrogated.

Only... what, eighty-one days till SP comes out? If that figure's wrong, don't yell at me... I've never been much good at maths. ;) 'Scuse me while I go put RotPL in the CD player... that trailer got me wanting to listen to HLiY again...

Ithabise


Aug 6 - 23:51

A little birdie

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Click one of the following links to download the "good" version of CYFTLT:

MP3 Format
RealAudio Format

Enjoy!


Aug 6 - 23:17

Christian (KH#1)

Location: OC
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

My vision of an ideal world:




1) There'll be a Simba's Pride soundtrack.




2) That "Simba's Favorites" CD thing will have the left-over Hans Zimmer TLK music AND it will have that supposedly really good version of CYFTLT, which I want desperately to hear.




Let's all join our cyber-hands together and hope for the best.




Kiara-holic #1





Kiara's Sahifa: The Kiara World Wide Web Archive

Aug 6 - 21:13

Raksha
Wolves of the Seeonee
Location: India
E-mail:

Hey Ithabise, I've always wondered about that version of CYFtLT on the Fox&Hound TLK trailer. I don't know anything about it either, is there anyone who does?? I really loved the sound of it and was surprised when it wasn't on the TLK soundtrack.
Speaking of which, anyone else a bit peeved about the way they left half of Hans Zimmer's best music off of the soundtrack??
Now I can't remember who posted about big cats not being able to purr, but can't they actually purr only when exhaling? I have info on that somewhere, but I'm too lazy to look right now, so I'll just fade away into the shadows...
"And where the journey may lead me, let your prayers be my guide"


Aug 6 - 20:38

Christian

Location:
E-mail: iluvronco@hotmail.com

Thanks birdie!!!!


Aug 6 - 19:43

A little birdie

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Christian, you can download the calculator by clicking the following image:



Have a great day.


Aug 6 - 19:36

A little birdie

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Christian, you can download the calculator by clicking the following image:




Have a great day.


Aug 6 - 19:34

Kiara

Location: in the pridelands with my king Kovu
E-mail: Kiara403

GUESS WHAT TLK MADE NUMBER 26 IN THE T.V. GUIDE also the stupid book is not out yet ahhhh I can't wait any longer and TLK will be on The Disney Channel on August 15th I REALLY HOPE THEY HAVE A PREVIEW FROM SP!



Kiara


Aug 6 - 18:08

Ithabise
Bluthgirl, TLKer, and part-time Disneyholic
Location: Nowhere near a Disney Store.. sigh.
E-mail: jesspark@citrus.infi.net

Okay, first off, I'd just like to thank you guys for providing so much information! It's way cool how everyone contributes all their little bits of rumors and works together so we can all find out what's what with SP. :) So thanks, and *hugs* to everyone! You guys are great. But anyway...

Forgive me; this isn't exactly about SP, but I recall reading about how someone had an early version of CYFtLT from the original TLK. How early is "early"? Does anyone remember the TLK trailer at the beginning of "The Fox and the Hound," where CYFtLT is sung? It's a male-female duet, but it isn't what was heard in the movie. The lyrics (at least the ones you can hear.. they only sing for a few seconds) are different, as well. Ever since I first heard that, I've been trying to find out more about it.

So, does anyone know anything about a really early version of TLK's CYFtLT that was never heard in the movie? Any information at all would be greatly appreciated, and TIA!

And now, back to SP! :)

Ithabise


Aug 6 - 16:37

Zakiya

Location: HOT Hesperia CA
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com

I LOVE YOU PEOPLE! YOU ARE SO AWESOME!

Enough said.

Anyways is this Simba's Favorites something like Rhythm of the Pride Lands? I hope so.

On the side note, WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT UNRELATED SUBJECTS? Um, has anyone read the summary above? IT SAYS INFO TO SIMBA'S PRIDE! Not Pooh, not Black Cauldron, just Simba's Pride. Thank you.

On another side note, are there any more Lebo M fans? Or do you want a Lebo M Fan Club Newsletter filled with news of what the REAL king of Lion King has been doing. Email me.

Zakiya


Aug 6 - 14:22

Dara

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OK, Beerit, I'll stop talking about Black C, I don't like it anyway... You're missing nothing back there in Israel! I was only curious if there was a new previeuw on the tape... but apperently there's not.

Ha Shenzi! Some relatives you've got! Ah well, I understand perfectly you're not downloading "naughty" things in library (especially with those old prudes hanging around!) I've a rather private spot... (LOL) Oh, who's Anne Rice? Maybe I have to check MY library if they have the books. Guess not ALL Americans are that easily shocked! Phew!.....

Krazy Kat, Beerit would say: Childhood movies rule! And I have to agree with her.

Kasi, you can also find Spitit Quest and Shadows of the Makei here on Brian Tiemann's site...
it's under the Text Files Archive. Origional TLK Fan-Fiction.

And Kasi, that's a weird thought! I can't imagine the hyena's being nice! Well, first I was thinking of a plot were the hyena's had to work together with Simba and his pride to get rid of Zira and her mighty army pride (you know the hyena's killed Scar, so Zira must hate them too!) But in that time I didn't know anything about SP. So maybe it was also a weird thought, tho I would have loved it!!

I just heard a friend of mine goes to the States! He promised me to bring back something of SP!
Isn't that sweet?!

Man!!! I talked too much!!! So I'll shut up right now!........................

Bye!

Dara


Aug 6 - 13:38

Swyft

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Did I say June 31? I meant July 31, of course. Can you imagine reading all the posts from June to August????


Aug 6 - 12:33

Raven
Poet
Location: Haven
E-mail: DPelzel@aol.com

I came across a Art of TLK book while i was at a Barns and Noble store. It's a a small almost pocket-size book that tells the story of TLK. But this time it's not animated slides, (it does contain some) these pictures are all drawn in texture of colared pencils and some scences that were considered but never made it to the film. One shows Timon opening Young Simba's mouth to show his sharp teeth, it's not SP realated but it's a great colectable. It also has a forward from the one and only James Earl Jones who we all know will voice Mufusa again in another spirtual apperance to Kiara, in TLK: SP.


Aug 6 - 12:32

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

Whew! I just got done reading everything since June 31. My eyes hurt. :) That Kov's Winter thing sounds interesting, though I'm not sure how factual it is. Everyone's saying there is no winter in Africa, but winter doesn't necessarily mean the weather, it could mean like a trying or a bad time. I know that's pretty far-fetched, just wishful thinking I guess, but I hope there is a 3rd movie.
I saw the Black Cauldron a couple of days ago, I didn't like it that much because it was nothing like the book. The ending was different, the characters were different, and some of the characters from the book weren't even there.
Well that's all I have to say since I don't have any actual news.

Hakuna Matada


Aug 6 - 12:21

elyse

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oops! i meant pretty cool huh?


Aug 6 - 12:08

elyse

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hi. i just got back from lunch. i went home for an hour (i'm at work now). anyway while i was at home i was flipping through channels and the howie mandell show was showing some animals from the san diego zoo. one of the animals was a meercat. his name was ricki & he was the model that disney used for timon. pretty coll huh? just thought i'd share that.
~elyse


Aug 6 - 12:06

Bule Lion

Location:
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org

Krazy Kat: it would probably be eaiser for me to downloand the whole story off the Dodger Shrine when it's done, send me an e-mail when it's up there!

On another note... there's TWO new SP Cd's coming out?? I thought the 'Simba's Favorites' thing was the SP Cd.. what is it then??

As for the classics, I too didn't like many of them... I only really liked The Fox & the Hound, Oliver and Company, and the Jungle Book (of those before TLK) the other were OK but not as good. I also kind of liked The Black Cauldron, it's not one of my most favorites but I still liked it. I'm not only a Disney fan, just of animation... it's just that Disney has been the only studio to put out anything real good so far, Dreamworks may be the only other but we've been through that so I'll drop it:)

And WHEN is that !@$##@ book coming out!!?? I'm still waiting!!!

Blue Lion
"Second Born, Second place!"


Aug 6 - 10:50

Kasi

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I'm sorry i was dissing some of the older movies earlyer but I had just woken up and when i wake up i can be crankyer than Scar in a bad mood.I was upset at TVguid because they think pinokio is better.I like Bambi and Fantisa tons better than pinokio.Plus i had a nightmare that when i went to the store to get SP(my dream took place after the movie comes out)they were out and they said that they would never get another shipment again!AAHHHHHHH!I'm glad that it was just a dream!
I'm sorry if you like pinokio,dumbo,and cinderella but i dont.


Aug 6 - 10:23

Alexander

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A SP tidbit, but first:

This is off-topic, but I had to comment on this, because I am ticked off that Disney has been dissing "The Black Cauldron" for years and is just now giving it a second chance on video.

First of all, while "The Black Cauldron" was a disappointment in the theaters, Disney has forgotten that this is NOT the only Disney animated film that debuted poorly. "Pinocchio," "Bambi," and "Fantasia" were duds on their first release and have since become money makers for Disney.

"The Black Cauldron" was only released once---in 1985. Disney animated films have usually gotten more than one release in the span of 7 years.

While I don't think "TBC" is necessarily a great movie, (I think it is a little boring---then again, I think a number of Disney's older movies have boring spots) watching it recently was a nice change of pace from the Disney musicals that are being thrown upon us these days. Looking at TBC, it was actually pretty gutsy of Disney to try out some darker material. And there's not a character that breaks out into a musical number!!!!

OK, about SP: I believe this was mentioned earlier, but for those that missed it: Target does have some SP merchandise out now. Specifically they have the pvc figure set that is available now at The Disney Store. It is $7.99 at Target. They also have the Simba, Nala, and Kiara plush set and (I've not seen this before) a plush Kovu (not the purring* or kissing one).

*Just a quick note: lions cannot purr! Big cats can roar, little cats can't. Little cats purr, big cats can't.

Pretty smart of Disney to release "Simba's Pride" merchandise early that consists of mostly the characters from TLK. The figure set only has 2 new characters: Kovu and Kiara. Great way to lure people into seeing the new move.


Aug 6 - 10:01

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

You're never shopping at the Disney Store again because they charge $2050 for the "Reunion" sericel? You'll have a hard time finding sericels at better prices elsewhere... :)

Brian


Aug 6 - 09:31

Raksha

Location: India
E-mail:

Well let me just say this about TV Guide's choice of Pinnochio over TLK - it's not something I would've picked myself. I'm not too fond of "the Classics", but of course I have to hold a certain respect for them, since w/out them there would be no TLK. IF I had to pick one of the older films, it wouldn't be Pinnochio that's for sure, but anyway that's just my opinion. Sorry for ranting
About Nuka and Vitani as cubs - for sure Jennifer Lien could also do a cub's voice. But there's also the possibility that we might not even hear them as cubs. Maybe as it is they have few lines.
Okay I'm gonna shut up right now
Busa ngo thando, busa ngo xolo


Aug 6 - 09:24

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@LionKing.org

Uzuri, That picture, Is probably a animation cell.
They are not cheap but are great collector items and may someday be worth a lot of money. Disney stores are not cheap but they are a nice place to go looking for Disney stuff.


Aug 6 - 08:57

Uzuri
No job and still care free!
Location: The World may Never Know....
E-mail: I forgot

To Anyone and everyone!:
Okay, I don't hvae much to say, but here it goes.

1) Is there any info on the SP soundtrack (Not Simba's Favorites, but Simba's Pride. There's a differ.).

2) I still can't find a flipin' SP plastic figures!! Gurrrrrr. Does any one know where I can get em?

3) Is $22 bucks the price Blockbuster iss charging for pre-order of SP (I don't want a puppet or a picture thing)?

4) I went to the Disney store and i seen a picture of Timon, Pumbaa, Nala, and Simba sitting in the jungle and talking. They wanted $2050 for it!!!!!!!!!! (I'm never shoping at a Disney Store again.)

5) For the person that wanted Spirt Quest and the other story, you can get them all at LionKing.net. He's got em all.

Well, that's enough griping for now.

Uzuri.

PS. Is anyone part of TLK MUCK???????


Aug 6 - 07:48

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Tsk,tsk,tsk,

I'm VERY dissapointed in you people. Now you're bashing Classics?! So TV Guide picked Pinocchio over TLK. Big Deal. IT'S JUST TV GUIDE. And Kasi, I'm not going to erupt at you for saying Dumbo is dumb (Although if I was in a bad mood I definately would tear your head off- sorry) but if Beerit finds out you said that I'm sure she'll personally have a say about it. Dumbo is a classic and it's one of my favorites, so what if the animation's not that great? They didn't have the technology they did for TLK and other new ones. The storyline was good, the characters were great, and that's why I love it. And that's all I'm gonna say.

No news here, sorry guys.

Bye,
Krazy Kat


Aug 6 - 07:18

Christian

Location:
E-mail: iluvronco@hotmail.com

Also: One time, several months ago, while surfing Lion King sites I found a Simba calculator but now I can't find it for the life of me. I found it while on a school computer and couldn't download it to that. Anyone know the URL for it?


Christian


Aug 6 - 06:21

Christian

Location:
E-mail: iluvronco@hotmail.com

Has anyone heard of a search engine called "Galaxy"? And, if so, what is the URL? because its NOT http://www.galaxy.com. I'm trying to track this down. Any help will be appreciated.


Kiara-holic #1


Aug 6 - 05:40

Kasi

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Where do I find The Spirit Quest and Shadows of the Makei at?Who is Vitinami(or how ever you spell it)?I agre with Rakisha(if i misspeled yur name i'm sorry)that Pinokio was boring.The reallife version was funnyer!The people at TV guide must be 2 year olds to think that DUMBO was better!Dumbo is a dumb movie! TLK IS THE BEST ANIMATED MOVIE OF ALL TIME!The Star Wars Trillogy is the best real-life movies.Maby Kovu dosnt know his dad is Scar.Kinda like how Luke Skywalker didnt know that Darth Vader was his dad(Well, untill the midle of the Star Wars V:Empier Strikes Back).I hope that the upcoming Pre-Quils are good.
Either the people at TVguide who said that Pinokio was better then TLK are adicted to the old movies or they musta ben drinking when they voted on the best movies because TLK is #1!.
Kasi
p.s.Woulnt that be weird if in SP the hyenas were goodguys and Timon&Pumba were bad guys?


Aug 6 - 05:11

Kiara

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The lion with the brown mane IS Kovu. He has a brownish black mane, so at some angles he looks like he has a black mane, in other shots, like the"I will avenge Scar" scene, it looks like he hass a brown mane. I REPEAT: IT IS KOVU! :) :)


Aug 6 - 04:36

sangoma

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sombody set me straight here if I am otta line,

is everybody sure that the "i will avenge scar" line is said by Kovu? First of all, the adult lion who speaks it is much lighter colored than all other depections of Kovu as an adult. The lion who says it doesnt even have a black mane. He looks more like Simba in design, but more scraggly and beaten up a bit. Who is this lion?
or am i colorblind and have a bad memory, someone please tell me?


Aug 5 - 23:31

Laurie

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Saw the Black Cauldron because I was curious, and I had not yet seen the SP preview believe it or not! Best way to describe BC is uneven. Some animation has potential, and is even good, other parts suck. And the characters aren't very developed, actually I didn't really like the main characters. (I did like the bard and that Gurgi dude though). Kind of a dull movie overall. Sorry if this is repetitive!
P.S. 83 days til SP I think!


Aug 5 - 19:53

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Blue Lion,
My story on Dodger is called "Dodger's Gang". It was originally a book but right now I'm changing it into a script screenplay type thing. I'm writing it in Parts and sending them to Steward's Dodger Shrine, the ONLY page devoted to Dodger and Oliver and Company. It will be a while until it's all up, but I can E Mail you it as I'm writing if you have a Mail address if you'd like them that way.

Shenzi,
I agree, I HATED the All dog go to Heaven sequel. I got it on video when it came out and I was so ashamed I owned such a horrid thing I hid it in the Storage Room. (No Lie!)

Ugh I wish there were some new SP/TLK/Anything related info, there's nothing to talk about! Pabh!

Oh I'm thinking of doing a new fanart- "Tuxedo Kovu". I don't know if any of you are familiar with Tuxedo Mask from the Japanimation series "Sailor Moon"...but I'm doing a cross between him and Kovu. If I could draw better it would look rather cute!!

Busa Simba iyo! and all that other spiffy-o stuff,
Krazy Kat


Aug 5 - 19:53

Me again.

Location:
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com

Disney Catalog owners, did you see the pics of Kiara and Kovu in it. They are too cute. PS: I love the stuff from RotPL you guys are posting to say bye with. as you may know, Lebo M has songs on there (including WE ARE ONE) from his album Deeper Meaning.

Zakiya

(Yes, I am using Lebo M's daughters name, someone else has his wife's name.)


Aug 5 - 19:18

shenzi

Location: LI, Ny
E-mail:

hakuna matata ! i missed this place.i wanted to read everyones message, but i don't have enough time. soon my aunt will be telling me to get off the computer so my grandma doesn't get pissed at me. ( I'm visiting some relatives ). Dara, not all americans are shocked by naughty things. i never read any of the stories on ryans lion with those parental warnings because when i go on the libraries computer little kids and people from school who have nothing better to do hang around at the computer and i wouldn't want them to see what i am reading. i wish i had more privacy at the libary. also the librarians hang around too and they are all old prudes !if you wanna read something naughty try Anne Rice's beauty books. ducky, nathan lane is going to have his own tv series this fall. in it he plays an actor. i think its called encore.Jenna, daria is one of my favorite shows. my other favorites are murphy brown, seinfeld, and frasier. unfortunitly most people i know are into melrose place and 90210 and party of five. i saw a book called Daria's diary. its a cute book i might get it. i would watch south park more but since i work i rarley have a chance to see it. kiara, i loved all dogs go to heaven but the sequel sucked. the story was dopey and the animation was too cartooney. they have a tv series but its just as bad as the crappy, second rate sequel. sorry i have no sp news. i gotta go. He lives in you !


Aug 5 - 19:00

Zakiya

Location:
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com

OK! THAT'S IT! I'm changing my password for the last time!!!!

I'm sorry for all the confusion, the name that I will use is Zakiya, not KIARA. The name is in caps lock, that is what my cousin has been posting.

Ignore the fact that someone has seen SP. It is not true. My cousin is busting ya'll's butts. Ignore it all.

The truth is, I do know someone who worked on the original LK but haven't talked to him yet.

Make sure that if you find another post with the name KIARA (that's in all caps) ignore it and tell Nicole (my cousin) to quit posting lies.) Thank you.


Aug 5 - 18:51

Blue Lion

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Krazy Kat.. is the dodger story up? I'd like to read that! He's one of my favorite Disney cahracters!


Aug 5 - 18:44

My name is Kiara and it will always be my name
The ORIGIONAL Future Queen
Location: Outlands with Kovu
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Beerit,since I was the first to use the name Kiara, I'm keeping the name, so now you know who's who.


Aug 5 - 18:31

Beerit
I'm too weak to write
Location: SAVE ME!!!!!!
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Dara. I downloded all 3 stories (like I said, I already read the 4th one).
Now I have to read 'em!
I cant seem to find the time, jugling my fan fic (which is currntly 18 1/2 pages long!) the site and reading.
the only time I get to read is at my dad's place couse his computer is like a -386, you know.
that sucks. so I'll get some reading this weekend. and then I'll get even MORE reading cathching up with what I MISSED this weekend in the mill, so I'm pretty packed!
I have no idea when this nightmare is over!
and this is summer vecation!!!!!!!
wait till school starts! I'm talking melt down!
SAVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!

can we knock it off with the Black K talk?
I mean, talk about it, but not all the time! geez! (:
basides, It didnt get to Israel, so I have no idea what we're talking about.
(as always, thinking about myself!)
Can some Kiara or another change her name to Keyara or something! it really bugs me when I dont know who's talking to me. (sorta to me!) (;
Cmo'n, who cares?

We Are One

p.s. if anybody is trying to access me by ICQ and I dont answer, that's because its my brother online. I ALWAYS answer so dont be mad, ok? just try later!
ICQ number: 14391779


Aug 5 - 17:50

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Outlands
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Well, this is my last post for about a week, so goodbye everyone! If anyone gets the book while im gone, e mail me the whole story, and also with some pics of Nuka and Vitani. Thanks.


Aug 5 - 17:19

Kichebo

Location: sick in bed
E-mail:


ye gods, i should avoid the Net when i am sick ;-) sorry guys, i must've got the bible/black cauldron posts mixed up, and i realized after i had posted about jennifer lien that i had gotten those 2 shows confused......i am right about andy dick though!
anyways, sorry bout that, think i will go lay back down....


Aug 5 - 17:14

Ducky

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Hello everyone, im not going to post here for about a week also, im going to atlanta! bye bye, i bet when i come back there are going to be hours worht of post! oh, by the way, that circle of life enviromental thing, is that the thing at epcot? cause it wasnt very good!


Aug 5 - 16:35

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Outlands with Kovu
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Well, as of tomorrow, I won't be posting untill next week because I'm going to Chicago. I wonder if they have the SP books there. I HAVE A THEORY THAT SAYS THAT BIG CITIES GET NEWLY PUBLISHED BOOKS FASTER THAN SMALLER TOWNS, AND THEY JUMP THE GUN. ANOTHER REASON BIG CITIES GET STUFF EARLIER IS BECAUSE THEY ARE DENSLY POPULATED. Could someone PLEASE tell me what they think about my theory????? I would like to hear your opinion.


Aug 5 - 15:20

the Panther
student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahoo.com

Crazy Cat: lets trade, let me read some of your stories, and you can read my fantasy story in progress,(the first one thats going forward well). Reading fellow amature authors storys is good for your own writing since you can learn from the others mistakes.
thanks

the Panther


Aug 5 - 14:45

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Kichebo,

Who said the Black Cauldron was based on the bible?! That's a new one. (Simba) I think..you're a little confused. (/Simba) This new thing called Prince of Egypt (Which I havent heard ANYTHING about except from here) is based on something in the bible. We KNOW the BC was based on the books, silly.

Blue Lion,
The Chronicles of Narnia inspired me to write when i was 9. That was what triggered my urge to write. I first started off writing about a young Unicorn called Stormy and her adventures, also were inspired by the Chronicles of Prydain. Then just this year I started writing The Calypso Chronicles, about Calypso, a lioness in the mystic land of Coralia and her lover the winged Lion Galaxy. They were also inspired by TLK. I also wrote a 143 page story (My longest yet) on the life of Dodger the Dog from Oliver and Company. I am currently changing it and converting it into a script.

I really thought Cub Nala was voiced by an adult- I remember seeing a long essay thing in some magazine where they interviewed almost every voice from TLK, except Jim Cummings and Cheech Marin, I think. I could have SWORE she was an African-American woman. Maybe I was looking at someone else? maybe Madge Sinclair and I was getting mixed up between the pictures and the articles? Bah, I can't remember! I was only 11 Gimme a break!

Jennifer Lien, at least I think, was on Star Trek and not Babylon Five- or is she on there now? I've never watched either, i just gained that info from a Jennifer Lien site.

Well, that's all 4 now, all.

Bye,
krazy Kat


Aug 5 - 14:38

the Panther
student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahoo.com

Kichebo: I Know the black cauldron isnt based on the bible, the only Fantasy based on the bible, is the bible. I was talking about the prince of egypt,,,,,,,.

the Panther


Aug 5 - 14:36

Kichebo

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a few quick things...

1) the Black Cauldron is not based on the Bible! It is based on a series of fantasy novels by Lloyd Alexander called "The Chronicles of Prydain"

2) cub Nala was not voiced by an adult actress ; i have a picture of the person who does her voice in an old Disney Adventures Magazine. She is a teenager, I think.

3) Nuka is supposedly voiced by Andy Dick, a comedian who can currently be seen on the NBC show "NwesRadio" if you all would like to know what he sounds like. And Jennifer Lien, who voices Vitani, is an actress on Babylon 5 (i've never seen that show myself tho)


Aug 5 - 14:21

Dara

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I've seen the "Black Couldron" months ago... but I still don't like it. It's so weird and there's no real story in it. It seems like Disney wanted to tell too many stories at once! It's all messed up!
Guess the books are much better!

And were the heck is princess Eilonwy comming from???? She seems to be there suddenly, but what she's really doing there or who she really is, I don't know... She just an irritating lady! I guess she isn't really a princess at all!! I thought Gurgi would be cute, but his voice irritates me.
Fleuder Flamm is cool! (the only one!) and the horned King is creepy!! Watch the scene with all those skeletons!! I think young children shouldn't watch the tape. By the way, here there was a sticker on the tape to warn parents not to let their children watch the movie alone!

I'm also sorry for the spam Brian... just warning people, they might be dissapointed after seeing the Black Couldron.... I really like all Disney movies, but I got really dissapointed when I saw the BC.

frequent poster who uses the name Kiara.... I also think it's confusing, all those Kiara's.

Beerit, I also felt sorry for Taka. Seems the hyena's are the real badguys for once....
"Touch of the nisei" is a story which also belongs to the Chronicles (same characters and all), but the real Chronicles only contains the 3 stories:
"Chronicles of the Pride Lands" - "The Spirit Quest" - and - "Shadows of the Makei" I recommend to read them all! They all tell the same story but vieuwed from behind the eyes of different characters. In CotPL it's mainly about Mufasa and Scar as cubs, in TSQ is mainly about the life of Rafiki and in SotM it's mainly about the lifes of the hyena's and about Simba when he was with Timon and Pumbaa. So it's just like reading one big book. Every story is like a new story so you won't be bored!!

Sorry!!! Back to SP now!!!!!!! Dang! there was no new previeuw on BC. When's the next movie comming?

Bye!!

Dara


Aug 5 - 14:19

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Is the stupid book out already?? When will it be out on store shelves FOR SURE????????


Aug 5 - 14:13

Blue Lion

Location:
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org

First, my TLK related thing... I read a long while back (couldn't find the post of it) that someone wanted scans from TBS? I finally got a copy and have a couple of scans of Mohatu if you want to know what he looks like... I'd like to see some pics from the Six new adventures if someone could..

Apologizing ahead of time, but don't diss Prince of Egypt!!! I've been following it as long as SP & I thikn it looks great! I saw a preview and it got a good villian and hero in it..
Ramses is a pretty emotional villian.. he's friends with Moses at first and ends up hating him as well as life (for what reason I don't know yet, but it makes me wonder) in that respect he's kind of like Scar.. and Moses is kind of like Simba & Balto in one.. he loves his adopted family but is confused about his place in life... pretty good developments IMHO

sorry again for my little spam here... just giving my two cents worth on something since my SP book is YET to be delivered (rrrrrrgh!! I HATE waiting!!!)

I also agree that Black Cauldron wasn't as bad as everyone said it was... I thought it was very unique and imaginative.. there were a lot of neat plot lines that remind me of CS Lewis's Chronicles of Narnia, an imaginary land with characters with unique personalities, quirks, curses etc. (Narnia were my favorite books as a kid!) And that little Gurgi thing was so cute:)! I want the bean bag of him (if I can ever find it)

Sorry again for getting on a soap box!
"Simba Simba pleeease have mercy I beg you!"

Blue Lion


Aug 5 - 14:12

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Okay, this is TOTALLY off-topic, but Panther asked me. I'd just do it in E-Mail but there might be some of you who'd like to know about it. Ahhem: "The Black Cauldron".

This wasn't as bad as I had expected, with everyone dissing it all the time.

Ok, The Black Cauldron is basically a mix of The Book of Three and the Black Cauldron; the first two Chronicles of Prydain.

The Horned King is this scary horned skeleton rotting corpse kinda guy, and he's looking for The Black Cauldron, this evil Cauldron that contains mystical powers. His problem is, he doesn't know where it's at.

Taran is an assistant Pig-keeper to HenWen the pig. He doesnt know why she's so special but one day she goes crazy and he gets the guy he lives with, Dorwin (It's NOT his father, God knows where his parents are..) Dorwin reveals that HenWen has mystical powers and can tell the future, and he knows the Horned King wants her. He tells Taran to take Henwen to this Cottage hideaway place. On the way there HenWen is captured by these scary dragon things and taken to the Horned King's castle. Taran meets Gurgi this little creature thing (Some people think he's not in the books but he infact IS) and goes to get HenWen. Well, this Taran is really stupid and gets locked in the dungeon in the process.

Princess Eilonwy, also a prisoner, saves him. On their way out they find a king's burial tomb and Taran takes the magic sword from the king's grave. The also meet Fleuder Flam the minstrel- everythime he tells a lie one of the strings on his harp breaks.

Well The Horned King eventually gets his hands on the Black Cauldron. He goes to this room where all these dead soldiers from hundreds of years ago are. He uses the Black Cauldron to raise them from the dead, they are the, you guessed it, Deathless Soldiers. The only thing that can kill or stop them is if a live person jumps into the Cauldron. The result of that is; the Deathless Soldiers wil die, but so will the person in the cauldron. Taran finally volunteers so jump in but Gurgi tries to stop him. Well, throughout the whole movie Taran is really nasty to Gurgi because he runs away whenever there's trouble, he's a theif, etc. So Gurgi decides to jump in. and he does before Taran can stop him. Well, it all ends up happily anyway.

There were a few slow parts and the only character that wasnt well-developed was Fleuder Flam. Overall it was okay, but certainly no match for some other Disney movies.

Sorry for the Spam, Brian!!!!

~Krazy Kat~


Aug 5 - 13:04

a frequent poster who uses the nameKiara
?
Location: ?
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

I think there are too many posters who use the name Kiara. I think it's confusing, and I think I was the first frequent poster who took the name Kiara. I don't mind people using Kiara Lover Kiara Holic, or KiaraFan, I think there is too many using just Kiara. So please change your name, Kiara, cause I used the name first. Thank you! :)


Aug 5 - 12:54

Kiara

Location: the pridelands with Kovu
E-mail: Kiara403@aol.com

hi guys I just called B&N and they said that they still don't have SP so I guess it will be in next week!!! HOPE SO I REALLY CAN'T WAIT!!! I am SOOOO impatient!!!!!


Kiara


Aug 5 - 12:37

the Panther
student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahoo.com

Krazy Kat: I like fantasy, even try to write it some, what is the Black Cauldron about? Exactly?

about this egypt thingie, there are two reasons it never can be better than the Lion King
1: It contains Human charakters.
2: It is based on the bible.


Aug 5 - 12:18

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

17 pages done in my fan fic.
wow, it might sound like a piece of cake, but I worked all day and added 7 pages.
hey, I doubled the number of pages today only!
yay me!
I didnt read all the messages couse my fingers hurt. so this will have to do!
send me fan art!!!!!!!!!

We Are One

p.s. I found this cool name in the swahili dictionery! "Otea"
its great to call Simba's son with, couse it means "Dream about". neat uh?
But you cant really use it, couse I'm using it. (hint: I'm NOT using it for the name of Simba's son)

JFT, remember "I'm in love with your soul mate"
late response: LOL


Aug 5 - 12:18

Raksha
I'm baaacck
Location:
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Okay gotta post again - just saw Mouse's post - Mouse agrees w/ me about Scar, yay!!!
Aaannnyyywayyy, here's a thought on Kovu's "I will avenge Scar" thing. Keep in mind he never met his father, and everyone else says "Scar" so he'd probably say "Scar" too. And Mouse also has a good point, it leaves it open for people to interpret it how they want, and no one can get offended by Disney saying that Scar is definitely Kovu's father.
Alrighty, bye


Aug 5 - 11:52

Raksha

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Yeah, TLK came in 29th for TV guide's 50 best movies - Good, great! But look what they said about it - "...Disney's 32nd animated musical was its highest-grossing and, at least among the studio's post-1970 features, its best." Um, excuuuusse me, but are they saying those old things like Dumbo and stuff are BETTER?! Why actually lookit this, they're saying Pinnochio IS better! PYUKEio was listed as 13th! "Arguably the greatest animated feature of all time," they say. What the *!@#!!! I hope there's no one here that likes Pinnochio, because I have to say that movie SUCKS. What are they thinking...
Anyway, there's this little picture in the lower right corner of this TV Guide cover, it's of Simba and Nala, w/ Rafiki holding up Kiara (or whatever cub that's supposed to be), but it's not a frame from the movie. Hmmm...
Kovu - well, now it's true he might not be Zira's son either. But then, where did he come from? And why does he look like Scar?!!

Izwe lethu, mhlaba wethu*


Aug 5 - 11:41

Mouse

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I have to agree with Raksha's post yesterday, Kovu is definetly Scar's son. And don't worry Raksha, I'm a huge Scar fan too and he is handsome, so is his son.
The reason Disney doesn't have Kovu say "I will avenge my father" instead of "I will avenge Scar" is because they don't want to go into that whole inbreeding thing (since Kiara is Kovu's second cousin) and avoid offending anyone. If they have Kovu and the other characters avoid refrence to Scar as his father then they won't offend anyone and the fans can make their own judgements as to wether or not he is Scar's son. Most people seem to think he is because of the obvious resemblence between them.
And saying he's Scar's mate's son is the same as saying he's Scar's son, since I don't think Disney would have Zira cheat on Scar because, like someone posted earlier, that would offend some people as well. Disney's answer to the question of who's Kovu's father will be vague at best.
And to all of the people who are complaining about there being to much SP merchandise to buy and not enough money to buy it, you should consider yourselfs lucky. At least you get to buy one or two things, there's not a single Disney store in the entire province where I live!!! (I live in Canada, eh.) I have to travel pretty far just to get to a store that sells cartoon stuff, and even then the only things I can get are drinking straws with the figures on top or refrigarator magnets.
Guss I just have to get my friends to pick me up something in the states when they go. Only problem is I don't know what to buy. What 's the best thing to buy from the SP merchandise?? Thanks for any suggestions you can give me. :)


Aug 5 - 11:36

Kasi

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Ok.Gosh this computer is dumb!Ignor the previouse msg.from me.We know that Nuka wants to kill Simba but what about Vitiani?This whole story sounds a bit like Romeo and Juliet,Only Kiara and Kovu probably don't die.


Aug 5 - 10:07

Kasi

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Nuka and Vitani
Ok.


Aug 5 - 10:04

Kasi

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Nuka and Vitani
Ok.


Aug 5 - 10:04

Kasi

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Nuka and Vitani
Ok.


Aug 5 - 10:04

Test

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OK, read below for the secret:

Ha! Did you really think I would give away the secret that easily? You've got to be kidding. :)


Aug 5 - 09:36

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Hello all,


I bought myself The Black Cauldron yesterday. Despite everyone's bad comments, I didn't think it was all that bad; some parts were really too violent or scary for real little kids though. The only character that wasn't well-developed was Fleuder Flam, who, might I add, WAS well-developed in the books, The Chronicles of Prydain. If you like fantasy read one of those! I read them in seventh or eighth grade and I think there's 5 books in all...

Well, on the Black Cauldron was the same SP preview as on Mr. Magoo. I had d/led it on my dad's laptop and on some people's computers the lip-sync wasn't right-including mine- the voices were faster then the animation..or came before it- er- whatever. So now I got to see it in perfect lip-sync. Yay!! =)

I was thinking about something Kiara said.."Pictures of Nuka and Vitani as cubs and adults (If we ever see them as adults)"..Let's see, I've never heard Jennifer Lien or Andy Dick's voice before, so I'm wondering if they could pass off as cubs? Don't throw stuff at me yet! I've never heard them before- and remember Cub Nala was voiced by an adult. We KNOW we see them as cubs and if Jennifer and Andy are the adult voices, I wonder who does the cub ones then? Bah! I'm confusing myself now...I'd better go.

Bye,
Krazy Kat

PS- I have to agree with One Pissed Off Person down there, I am getting frustrated with these people now,telling us to get a life. What kind of life do they have to come to a TLK site if they hate the movie and torment us about how we like the movie...

PS 2 -Oh, in TV Guide's 50 Greatest Movies on TV and Video, TLK came in 29th place. It's not first or even in the top ten, but at least it's up there! The Godfather Part 2 was first in case you were wondering. bah.


Aug 5 - 09:33

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@lionking.org

How in the world did you do that???


Aug 5 - 09:09

Test

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The Circle of Life


The Circle of Life Photo

Aug 5 - 08:54

Kiara (again!)

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If anyone gets the book before I do, please send me the whole story (and pics of Nuka and Vitani as cubs and adults, if they ever are adults) I must know the story! I would very much appreciate this..


Aug 5 - 08:28

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

I called the store today, and my local BN doesn't have the book! I'm getting very frustrated here! I am going to Chicago tomorrow, and I have a theory: SINCE CHICAGO IS A HUGE CITY, LARGE CITIES GET A LOT OF THINGS EARLIER THAN SMALL TOWNS, AND THEY JUMP THE GUN. Can anyone tell me what they think about this theory??? I would like to know your opinion


Aug 5 - 08:24

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala612@hotmail.com

I can't stay away from you guys! I like that One really pissed off person! ;)

I gotta agree with Panthera Leo--maybe we should SPAM Jad, I mean, Pooh-lover isn't stupid enough to leave his e-mail address. That's about the only smart thing that he's done. How many times has Jad been here? I've been away for too long.

Crazy LK fan--you're so right about no one knowing who Kovu and Kiara are. I went to D. Store with a close pal and reserved the movie. She asked to see the litho, and looked at the pict on the cover. She goes: "Who are these guys?" and pointed to Kovu and Kiara. I said: "Oh, those are Kovu and Kiara." She is like, huh? I had to explain the entire story thing to her while I waited to get the recipt from my D. Store person, who was staring at me and smiling. I don't think she expected to wait on a TLK fanatic. And I don't think that there was anyone expecting someone to know most of the storyline in the middle of the D. Store. I like shocking people!

Ducky--you can find the frame at any D. Store. I want it so bad but my mom's like, maybe for Christmas, I just bought you a TLKoB book. I'm like: "SO?"

Beerit--the tango dream was very strange. But it sounded like a dream I would have. I woke up one night saying Simba in my sleep. Now that was wierd.

Goody--I have two making out people in front of me, and a yelling mother behind me. Oh yes--what a day. I gotta say bye-bye now, so BYE-BYE!

Love always--

Nala


Aug 5 - 07:26

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@lionking.org

Thoes who harrass us for liking somethig are small minded people who are trying to feel ig about them selves. Ignore them and they will soon go away. Sometimes it's not so easy and you have to FIGHT for their respect. Evenhough the latter is not a option I like to encourage.

NALO


Aug 5 - 07:22

One really pissed off person

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Ya know what...that JAD person is about to get their little F***ING A** kicked. and I'll be happy to be the one to do it. Look JACKA**, you have absolutely no right to come in here and tell us what the MOTHERF*** to do. Let us know when you gradutate out of Pooh underwear. My patientice is shot. My best online pal has just headed to college, and I'll have to wait a while to hear from him. My e-mail is screwed up right now, and I'm in a foul mood to begin with. You don't walk in here and insult us unless you go through me. Prepared for that??? I know how to fight and I've had plenty of practice, and if you want me to rearrange anything for you I'LL BE HAPPY TO HELP. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not in the mood for this crap, so JAD...why don't you go back to your Hanson lovers goup and leave us all ALONE. (challenging expression) Or do you want to make something of it?

To everyone else who's normally here: I'm calm now, but if I was looking the moron in the face they wouldn't be there for long.

Have a nice day!


Aug 5 - 07:06

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala612@hotmail.com

I'm baa-aack! Yes! The book is in! I went to barnesandnoble.com and checked for you guys. It's in, and ready to ship in 1-2 weeks from them. It costs $7.99. I kept reading and have never had so many people asking me if I'm sure. YES I'M SURE! I'm always on top of all the TLK stuff that's happening. Yea! Ouch! Didn't see the chair. ;) Sorry the last message was so long. So much to say!

Bye!

Nala

WE ARE ONE!


Aug 5 - 06:51

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala612@hotmail.com

Morning everyone...Oh! Yes! It's the 5th! The SP book is out! Yea! Oh no......I CAN'T get it today cuz my mom has decided that since DADDY is gone, she'll drag me to see the Mask of Zorro. Oh goody I'd rather be seeing doctor DoLittle. Hey! It looks funny! I agree with Kiara about being ribbed about TLK. It happens to me all the time. I'm the only sophmore you'll see in the school with Disney coloring books and my Nala plushie. And I'm proud of it. Who cares, if that's someone's interest, it's definately better than......you know, whatever.

Prince of Egypt, I haven't read/heard any more about that since I read an article about it in Time. I remember reading in an article about Anistasia, TLK, and Little Mermaid, that the Dreamworks people nicknamed it "The Zion King" against our favorite movie. I'm debating whether or not to catch it on video. I'm not that religious, but I do know the story of Moses (I think that it's my fav from the Bible) and I hope that they didn't screw it up. I don't know why I'm hoping for Steven Spelberg (sp?), he's doing just dandy without our hope. But here this Jurrasic Park fans, there's a third one coming, and the book hasn't even been written by Michael Criton, he's writing the script though!

I know! Enough already, for anyone who's back on the TLK-L, I'm there, after I found it amid all of Brian's site. Zira was last listed as Kovu's "Trainer" so I have no clue, unless Zira IS Kovu's mom, and she's like Scar's sister or something. They changed something in the script so that it wouldn't be incest. I haven't seen anything making Kovu, Scar's son...but you never know. Is there a Preview on Black Caudron? I gotta rent that! SP here we come!

Nala

Does anyone wonder about a third and final TLK movie????


Aug 5 - 06:37

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Okay. I'm going to call B+N this morning, and I am going to ask if they have another book that I know they carry so they don't recognize me as "the adolecent girl who asks for the same book we don't have every day." But it's more likely that they don't care, they just want my money. And I don't care if they think I am too old for the book and for Disney movies, and I don't care if my classmates tease me for liking TLK and SP. It's what I like that counts, and my opinion is the one that counts, not someone elses! SP is my fave movie and there is nothing that can change that (except for a TLK 3!)


Aug 5 - 06:10

Christian (KH#1)

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E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Quick thought: If Kovu was Scar's son he would probably say, "I will avenge my father," instead of "I will avenge Scar," unless he's like Bart Simpson and calls his dad by his first name.


Kiara-holic #1


Kiara's Ever Expanding Home Page


Aug 5 - 00:48

Outsider

Location: Banished
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I know this is off-topic, but I thought you TLK fans would be interested...

There's a new movie coming out in December called Prince of Egypt. It's being produced by Dreamworks (Steven Spielburg) and is said to rival TLK in almost every aspect, including the story, music and special effects.

Here's the impressive list of cast members:

Val Kilmer............Moses
Ralph Fiennes.......Ramses
Michelle Pfieffer....Tzipporah
Sandra Bullock......Miriam
Jeff Goldblum........Aaron
Patrick Stewart.....Pharoah Seti
Helen Mirren........The Queen
Martin Short.........Huy
Danny Glover........Jethro
Steve Martin.........Hotep
Natalie Portman

One more thing, the musical score has been composed by TLK's own Hans Zimmer!!! Cool, huh?

More info about Prince of Egypt can be found here.

And now, back to TLK... :)


Aug 4 - 22:18

Outsider

Location: Banished
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About Kovu's identity...

Has is been officially stated that Kovu is Zira's son? If so, where?

I know that Kovu is supposed to be "Scar's mate's son", but who is Scar's mate? He could have had any number of "mates" apart from Zira...

btw, please don't flame me, I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this.


Aug 4 - 21:58

kiara

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i went to the disney store today and hears an update,
1.same mini bean bags
2.kiara,kovu,and timon & pumbaa plushies
3.same snowglobe
4.same musicbox
5.kiara,kovu,simba,nala,timon & pumbaa ceramic figures
6.kiara,kovu, and timon,pumbaa,&zazu washrags
7.dinner set
8.large lunch box thing
9.two playsets from mattel
10.diary
11.small art kit
12.pre order movie
13.bag thing that contains erasers, stencals,colored pencils ect...
14.same picture frame
and on the back of the mattal thing thay had pics. of bean bags of kovu and kiara and ragdolls of kiara and kovu all made by mattal (thay all scared me)

well thats it for now i think.

p.s.kovu is scar's son it says so in the disney catalog.


Aug 4 - 20:54

Raksha
I am "the demon" - no really, that's what Raksha means!
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This is really starting to bug me - Kovu is OBVIOUSLY SCAR'S SON!! the only reason Disney says he's not is cause they don't want to get sued. I mean, lookit him, he's sooo cute, just like his father (Yes I love Scar if you can't tell) Well, then again, Kovu gets kinda ugly when he gets older because his mane is totally messed up (Scar has the best mane...okay, I'm sure no one cares)
And even if he's not Scar's son, then we've got Zira cheating, and that'll offend someone too.
I guess I can see where Black Cauldron got the PG. I mean, most of it's quaint, but there are a couple really morbid parts.
Well, ta ta
~Raksha *Ingonyama nengw' enamabala


Aug 4 - 19:37

Blue Lion

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I'm kind of bummed that the SP preview on Black Cauldron is the same as Magoo. About the PG rating... I don't think it's PG by today's standards, but it came out originally about 10 years ago or so... I think they kept the PG rating on the video simply because it was the original rating given by the MPAA.

About the book...haven't got e-mail from B&N that they shipped it, so I guess it's not ready yet? who knows...

Blue Lion
"Second born, second place!"


Aug 4 - 18:55

Kasi

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Howmany of us just loom around here and the disney store online all day?I know I do.I hope i can get alot of TLK and SP stuff without driving my mon crazy like last time.I'm still looking for Banzi,Sarabi,adult Nala,Mufasa,and Zazu figures.
How rare are Ed figures cuz I got 1.


Aug 4 - 17:57

Kiara (again!)

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Could someone send me a list of the cheapest SP merchandise?? And I WANT TO KNOW FOR SURE: WILL THE BOOK BE OUT TOMORROW??


Aug 4 - 17:50

Kiara

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I just got back from my local DS, and I got something!! I got a diary with a huge picture of Kiara on the front, and on the back, it has a smaller picture of Kiara and Kovu on it. I also saw that coloring sheet with the mixed up colors on it, and a plastic wallet that featured Kiara, Kovu, Timon, and Pumbaa, and I saw the figurine set. Does anyone know of a place that has the figurine set cheaper?? And Nala, are you sure the book will be out tomorrow?
I am trying to get as much SP merchandise as I can, without going broke, which I am now, but I got that diary for only $7....


Aug 4 - 17:46

Kasi

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Actualy if Kovu is Scar's son(i bet he is)Kovu would be Simba's cousin-not Kiara's couson like someone typed(i forgot who...)


Aug 4 - 17:38

elyse

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hi guys! i just got back from visiting dizbeanies.com and there's a rumor brewing that disney is going to be retiring the simba & nala beanies, so if you don't have them yet and you want them, you might want to hurry up & buy them.
~elyse


Aug 4 - 15:50

Snowy

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About Kovu being referred to as "Scar's wife's son" and not as Scar's son seems a tad bit odd to me. I mean, if he's the cub of Scar's wife/mate, then he should be the son of Scar....unless Zira was cheating on him (hmmm, someone stabbing Scar in the back....now THAT'S interesting ;) ). If you think about it though, since there aren't any little kids that I can think of that might be able to concider such things, then, by default, Kovu would be Scar's and Zira's son. Sorry to ramble, but that was bothering ever since I read the first post on it. Kara, if you look at my post below yours, you'll see about an SP preview on Meet the Deedles.

Bye everybody.


Aug 4 - 15:41

Kara

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Hey guys! I just got back from back to school shopping and I noticed alot of new Simba's Pride stuff out. They had this lunchbox, and some school supplies, and figues at the Disney store. Yes figures, like action figues, they came in a pack with Pumbaa, Timon, Zazu, Simba, Nala, Kovu, and Kiara. It was about 10.00 They also had like baby toys for Simba's Pride. One set had Simba and Kiara with all these play things, and the other one had Kovu with a blue pride rock and a slide. And at Target I noticed they had a bigger pack of Simba's Pride figures, only more from the Lion King and that Pride Rock family set of stuffed animals from E Toys! That cost about 27.00. On the back of the figures they had more Simba's Pride items, like a mini Pride Rock playset, with Simba, Kovu, and Kiara, mini plushes of Kovu and Kiara, and a jumbo Kiara. I don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but if I repeat, I'm sorry. On the back of the figures set it read:
As a dark storm brews over the Savannah, the Mystical Rafiki communicates with the spirit of Mufasa. We learn that after becomming king, Simba exiled all lions loyal to Scar to the desolate outlands. A dangerous rift has developed between Simba's Pride and these Outlander, led by Scar's murderous widow Zira. Rafiki learns that only one lion can heal this wound- Simba's newborn daughter ,Kiara. Following her own heart, Kiara runs away from Pride Rock to join Kovu in the wild, hoping to find a place far away where they can be together. At night Kiara is vistited by the spirit of Mufasa, who reminds Kiara of her obligation to her pride and her role in the circle of life. Kiara convinces Kovu that they must return to Pride Rock. Their love is the only chance to stop the destructive war...
Wheww... Anyway, It's too bad that the Black Cauldren didn't have any new footage, but what about Meet the Deedles? Didn't that come out also? Well, that's about it.
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Aug 4 - 15:30

Snowy

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I checked Meet the Deedles for an SP preview, they had one, but it was the first one that was seen with no new footage, just clips from TLK with a voice over of Timon & Pumbaa.


Aug 4 - 15:27

Kiara

Location: pridelands
E-mail: Kiara403@aol.com

Nala are you absoulotly sure that the SP book comes out on Auguest 5th???? If you are how did you find out???? and also the pooh lover actully likes The Lion King I mean think about why would he/she think about coming here in the first place then again I can be wrong but just think about it thanks buh bye

Kiara


Aug 4 - 15:09

Krazy Kat

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E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Kiara,
I have that catalog too, I think we just have one that's a bit older. Now new info here.

~Krazy Kat~


Aug 4 - 13:49

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

I don't see anything for SP in the Disney Catalog! It just has Mickey and Minnie on a merry go round horse kissing each other on the front, nothing inside the pages except the Kiara and Kovu beanies (no clip art)and what they have on the back is advertisments for Lady and the Tramp and the Black Cauldron on video. THERE IS NOTHING ON THE BACK OF THE CATALOG I HAVE THAT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT SP!!!!!! I wonder if the catalog I have is an old one..........


Aug 4 - 13:41

Sai Wong

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E-mail: saimingwong@geocities.com

I went to the Dysney Store this weekend to check
if they had any more news on Simba's Pride.

They were accepting pre-orders for the video
and a hand puppet and lithographs.

I talked to a shop assistant and she informed
me that the story will be Simba's daughter
will fall in love with Scar's mates son.

Note : She does not fall in love with Scar's son
but Scar's mate's son !

The shop assistant told me that if Simba's
daughter was to marry Scar's son then they would
have cousins marrying and Dysney wants to avoid
hurting any religious groups.

Therefore, it will be Scar's mates son.


Aug 4 - 12:45

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Geez, I've only been gone for 5 hours...
Alexander, hmm... bummer. I guess the sound was not clear on the quick time version, uh?
I supose you're right.
I still hear her loud and clear, but whatever.
whoever she is, she stinks!
I loved Ace Ventura: when nature calls.
ha, it was so funny! yes it was in kenia in some providance. some bat poo-pooed on a guy's shoes or something.
I only read the first chronicle story and touch of the nisei. is TotN a chronicle story too?
Yhea, poor Taka. I feel sorry for him. and Elanne too.
Dara, in fact, Ernie Sabella and Nathan Lane WERE made for Timon and Pumbaa!!!
the writers saw some play they were in and wrote the script JUST for them! neat, uh?!
I think Disney are running out of ideas so they're pushing out zillions of sequels untill they come up with something better then pochohateyou.

Hey, saw 2 re-runs of 2 beverly chapters today.
hehe. I actually laughed at a joke!!!!
how unusual.
"Flambe"... LOL
Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!
went to see Mulan for the third time with my friend.
a good time was had by all.

we are one


Aug 4 - 12:31

LM
Ugh...
Location: Here
E-mail: LauraMcdan@aol.com

Oh...that was on the SP page. Heh...haven't been there in a long time. ;)
--LM


Aug 4 - 11:42

Philoctets Pandeferous Athenias Musagetes Olympios Satyr
Gods of Olympus (Recently appointed "God of Mechandising")
Location: Mt. Olympus and with Athena...*sigh*
E-mail: Philoctets@aol.com

OK...for those of you who thought they saw Scar in that weird movie Disney made about me n' Herc, that was the Neman Lion. Sure, he got banged up and looked like scar but...well...it wasn't. After Herc got through with you, hey, I bet you'd look something like Scar yourself! They did overexagerate a bit, though...=;o)

--Phil


Aug 4 - 11:37

Laura "Mtanga" McDaniel
Oh...I'm a local nut
Location: Here, there, and everywhere
E-mail: LauraMcdan@aol.com

I'm not sure if this was posted, but there is a SP summary on the back of the most recent Disney Catalog(which, btw, say "Pumbaa or Kiara puppet" NOT "Pumbaa or cub puppet"). Anyway, here it is:

"THE LION KING 2: SIMBA'S PRIDE" ROARS ON TO VIDEO!

The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride, Disney's sequal to The Lion King, continues the saga of Simba as he teaches his daughter, Kiara, the meaning of the circle of LIfe. The adventure begins when Kiara sneaks away from the inept baby sitters Timon and Pumbaa, and ends up in the forrbidden Outlands. Zira, former mate of Scar, spies Kiara playinf with a cub named Kovu. The tale unfolds and Kiara and Kovu fall in love and battle the forces of evil and take their place alongside Simba and Nala in the Pride Lands.


There. A few observations: It doesn't say that Kovu is Zira's cub, rather "a cub." Perhaps they're avoiding inbreeding? Maybe her cub is that Nunca? Ugh...And also note, for those of you who were *still* concerned about Simba dying, it says "alongside Simba and Nala." Yeah.

--LM


Aug 4 - 11:33

Kasi

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The Lady And The Tramp is gonna have a re-release soon(i saw the anouncement at the cashregister at the disney stor).Mayby they will have something new in the prevews.I wonder whats with all the sequils and prequills,WHY are they making another Pocahontas?Only one of the songs was good(Just Around The River Bend)and the only good charictors were Meko and the pug.No offence if you liked Pocahontas but I didnt.I HOPE they dont make another Hunchback of Notredam movie!If they doo I'm gonna jump of a the hightst road in the spagetie junction in Atlanta!Toy Story2 should be a good movie.Woody and Buzz are cool.I LOVE the movie Balto!I wish their was actualy some merchandise though!The 2 plushes and the Hardy's figurs are so hard to find!If you have any figurs from the movie Balto and r willing to sell please let me know.They dont have to be MIP just in good condition.
Kasi
"Strange things..."


Aug 4 - 11:13

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Hey Kiara, you didn't see SP! u liar! And the name Kiara has already been taken by me, if you didn't already notice. =P


Aug 4 - 10:52

Raksha
The Free People (wolves)
Location: Seeonee River Valley
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About the SP preview on "Black Cauldron" - I haven't watched the movie yet, but I saw the preview and I don't think it's anything new. I'd never seen it myself, but from what I've heard, I think it's the same as the Magoo preview. "He Lives in You" plays in the background; some footage of Simba and y. Kiara, her introducing herself to Kovu, Zira telling Simba "these lands belong to Scar", Simba telling Kiara "Someday I won't be here" -- looks like the Magoo preview to me (which I have never seen, but heard enough about to tell)
(there was also a preview for Pocahontas II. Yay. Yippee.)
Well, I'm off to watch Black Cauldron now. See if it lives up to its notorious PG rating, haha


Aug 4 - 10:51

Krazy Kat Once More

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Agh!! Sorry, that preview is off the Black Cauldron video. Silly me..well, it's the same one as on Mr. Magoo, anyway.

~Krazy Kat~


Aug 4 - 10:51

Krazy Kat....Again...

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E-mail: XTooncesX@aol.com

Hey all,
I just read off the TLK-L that there is an SP preview; unfortunately it is the same preview as seen on the Mr. Magoo video. Sorry, guys!

~Krazy Kat~


Aug 4 - 10:49

Alexander

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This isn't related to SP, but I'd like to answer these questions:

Ducky, Don Bluth was a Disney animator who decided that Disney animation wasn't good enough for him anymore and left the Disney Studio in the early 80s to make some of the worst animated movies ever!! Many of Bluth's movies went for overly cutesy characters and visual overkill. His studio went under and now he works for Fox (he worked on Anastasia there). Anastasia may be the best thing he was involved with because he was not the big decision-maker behind the film (the Fox executives were!).

For the record, "Balto" has nothing to do with Bluth.

Sorry for that non-SP information, but I just wanted to clear things up!


Aug 4 - 10:47

Kichebo

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kay, off-topic, but this is killing me, so.....
Don Bluth did not have anything to do with Balto!!!!!!!
there, said it....resume your postions, folks


Aug 4 - 10:43

Dara

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Beerit, you hardly cry? Did ya read all 3 Chronicles?? I like seeing the hyena's as the ultimate badguys! He he, badguys are cooooool!
Oh, and Rafiki can heal everything, even Taka's eye! It sounds horrifying, but I it isn't as bad as it sounds.

I'm glad Ernie Sabella and Nathan Lane did do the voices of Timon and Pumbaa! I mean, just look at the guys!! They're made for Timon and Pumbaa!!!
Whoopi Goldberg and Cheech Marin were more then PERFECT hyena's!

Now, now, Rafiki! That's nothing like you yelling at Kiara like that?! Just kidding! But I don't think I want to hear the story, but then.... I'm sooooooooooooo curious!!!!!!

Alexander, I also do like "The Secret of Nimh" it's a good story. But all of Don Bluth's movies miss that little touch Disney has. Seems Don Bloth hasn't learned enough.

Beerit, Don Bluth is a man who has formally worked for Disney but he started an "animated factory" of his own. Hoping to give Disney a hard time (and if he checks his story-lines even better, he could do a very good job!)

mmm, does the Pooh Lover finallly has a name now??
Or is this another pathetic idiot?? Oh by the way... I'm already having a life. I'm just very happy with only one. What I'm I doing anyway??? Ignore, ignore, ignore...........................
Guess you guys are wiser then me!

Will you guys tell me if there's a previeuw of SP on the "Black Couldron" tape????

See ya!!!!!

Dara


Aug 4 - 10:40

Ducky

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Like Beerit said, who is don bluth? I didnt even know all those movies were conected in some way! i didnt like any of those movies except balto, but balto had like no songs and that made me mad cause the songs are one of the best parts!!! that and anastatia are the only non-disney animated movies i like, even though most of the song in anastatia sucked! but im gonna stop talking about this now!


Aug 4 - 10:33

KIARA ZAKIYA

Location:
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com

Is my screenname not the best in the world? I have another, it's PRIDELDR. I saw the SP video from my cousin who worked on the movie. He gave it to me. I can't give out any details yet but I'll tell you that it's very cute, the animation is spectacular, and the music is good. Some parts of the music I didn't like. But that's how it goes. The soundtrack will be released in September. Have fun!

The REAL Queen of the Pride Lands

KIARA

PS: My SP collection is now over 50. It's mostly pics.


Aug 4 - 10:32

Alexander

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Sorry Kiara, but I believe you are mistaken. It is pretty obvious to me that Cam Clarke sings for Simba in SP. No, Cam does NOT sing another song on the Mulan Sing Along. And yes, it DOES sound like Cam Clarke singing. By the process of elimination, "We Are One" is the only song that would have Cam Clarke singing (after all, Cam provided the voice for Simba in "Timon and Pumbaa" and Matthew Broderick did NOT sing in TLK!).


Aug 4 - 10:20

Krazy Kat
The Kraziest of all the Kats
Location: Here
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Kiara,
I wasn't trying to be rude or picky about the "prying" subject, I just felt I needed to state my opinion...that's whut Rumor Mill is for, right? Well..that and SP info. ;-)

I'd have to agree with Alexander, Beerit, it is clearly pronounced, "Key-are-uh" Pumbaa says it and Kiara herself says it.

I forgot to post this..I was waiting in line at the Disney Store the other day, and I was reading the cardboard counter advertisement for SP. I noticed it said, (Can't remember the exact words) "Comes with a lithograph and either a Pumbaa or lion cub puppet.." Lion cub? Why didn't they just say Kiara?? Hmmm...

I'm getting The Black Cauldron today; I don't care how much everyone else hates it, I'd like to see it- well, i did, but that was quite some time ago and I don't remember. Antway, I'll search for an SP preview if no one else has yet. =)

Beerit, great job on your SP page, it's organized much better and formatted nicely. I went to your Kovu's Ari though and the images on your buttons didn't show up. It told me, "Could Not find.." then whatever it was. Just thought I'd let ya know.

I went to Lionking.net again today but it gave me some really weird page...hmmm...I'll try again later. Prolly AOL being stupid again... =P

Sarafina's Mate is almost finished-- it was put off for a while due to a serious case of Writer's Block.. ;-)

Well, I'm rambling again so I'm gonna go.

ByE bYe!!
KrAzY kAt


Aug 4 - 10:18

Kasi
I'm a lioness.
Location: A plain somwhers in the lare continent of Africa....
E-mail:

Yea the sequill to all dogs go to heaven was louzy.Why did they change Charlie's voice?
I wonder why the eyes on my Kovu magic towl arent completly colored in.Did anyone see Ace Ventura:When Nature Calls(starring Jim Carry)?
That was funny when he totalled that jeep.I cant remember if that took place in Africa or South America-i think in Africa.That would be funny if Jim Carry has a part in TLK or SP!Liar Liar was also good but The Cable Guy was louzy.I couldnt see a piont to that movie.They have some rare sound clips at lionking.net,In cluding Timon's verse and a reprise of Be Prepared!The weird thing about BP and BPreprise is that in BP all the hyenas were boys but in the reprise they sounded kinda like females.In the Disney Adventurs mag.s(2 of them did) that had featured the lion king it had a 2 part TLK comic.In the comic it included Timon's verse.I wonder why it got cut?
Kasi


Aug 4 - 09:57

Kiara

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Okay,Okay!! The prying thing was only a thought! Sheesh! Cam Clarke DOES NOT provide the singing voice for Simba!!! THE SINGING VOICE IS UNDOUBTEDLY MATTHEW BRODERICK'S!!! I believe Cam Clark is doing a different song on the sing a long, I just know that he isn't simba's singing voice.


Aug 4 - 09:32

Alexander

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Beerit, I guess you can believe what you want to, but the "Ki" in Kiara's name is pronounced "Key." It is pronounced very clearly in the Magoo preview.

I do believe Lacey Chabert provides a voice in Simba's Pride but why should I believe she voices Kiara when she isn't listed in the credits? Matthew Broderick and Cam Clarke were listed so if Lacey was Kiara they would have given her credit.

I don't mean to pick on you, I am just commenting on this.


Aug 4 - 09:20

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: Krzykatmer@aol.com

Kiara,
I'd hate to "pry" the story from anywhere. I'd like to be surprised; I don't want to be dissapointed ahead of time or have it totally ruined for me. I like to know basically what it's about, but not every little thing and the ending. We've already got a basic story from the Disney catalog and a few other resources and for me, that's all I need.

Bye,
Krazy Kat


Aug 4 - 08:37

Kiara
Future Queen
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Hey if anyone talked to Lacey Chabert in a chat room and she says she is doing SP, if we meet any others of the cast, I wonder if we can pry the story out of them............ this is just a thought.


Aug 4 - 06:41

Beerit

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Zinou's right.
what's with the Don Bluth talk?!
hmm... what IS Don Bluth anyway?!

eno era ew


Aug 4 - 05:53

Zinou

Location: Ngorongoro
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Guys,

This is an SP 'Mill. NOT A Don Bluth 'Mill.
Personally, I don't care -- when they decided to make a bajillion cheap, cute LBT sequels, they sentenced themselves to death, end of story. Since that, ADGTH, and anything not named 'Simba's Pride' doesnt have anything to do with anything here, why are we talking about it!?

^BTW, I'd like to see those Sticker Book scans...
Lemme know on 'ere when they get posted wherever!^

-=Zinou=-


Aug 4 - 05:33

Rafiki's Raven
Shamon messenger
Location: Outside Haven
E-mail: DPelzel@aol.com

First lets start on the Don Bluth contorversey.
LBT was one of the first animated movies to feature the Circle of Life, but it didn't bring it out as much as TLK did, Now even though LBT is still going on with the yearly sequels (which come out during the winter season) every movie focuses more on a natural problem occuring then the evermentioned Circle of Life. Now Kiara you just shut the F**K up about telling us about the hole storyline of SP you'd really destroy the whole meaning that this page was created for then.


Aug 3 - 21:29

Blue Lion

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Still waiting for the book.. I wonder how long it'll take to mail?

Anyway... I don't remember who posted what I'm writing about... I scrolled down and quickly read it all.. there was a lot there..

First, I think Nuka does meet Kiara and Kovu as a cub because he's made as a cub in the e-toys bean bags, and Vitani probably meets them as a cub too because she's also a cub in the toys as well as in the frame.

I'm not clear on the posts about Mufasa'a ghost so disreagard this if I interepretaded them wrong, but his ghost does appear according to the box the Disney store figure set came in .. it says he communes with Kiara to get her to return to Pride Rock... but the new version was kind of funny.

I agree that most of Don Bluth's movies were real weak. Like I said All Dogs go to Heaven was the only one I think is still pretty cute but the sequal WAS weak... and so was that Pebble and the Penguin thing and that Thumbelina (sp?)thing.. in fact most any other non Disney animated movie except Balto, All Dogs and possibly Prince of Egypt seem weak to me. No wonder Don Bluth's studiod died after less than 10 years. It seems everyone is jumping on the animation bandwagon and failing.

And while on the cameo thing in Hercules Pumbaa makes one in the Hunchback (I don't know if anyone already knows about this) When Quasimodo was singing Out There and it pans over the town two men are carrying Pumbaa tied to a pole. It's brief so if you haven't seen it you probably have to go Frame by frame to catch it.

Hoping I get the book soon... AND hoping for a SP preview on Black Caludron tomorrow... if there is with new footage I'll screen grab some.
Blue Lion
"Second born, second place!"
WE ARE ONE


Aug 3 - 19:15

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@lionking.org

Ok, The Mulan singalong is on it's way to my friend to be put onto the computer. As soon as it is read, we will put it on the net for you. Unless ofcourse copyrights stop us. Hopefully it will be done and online by Friday.


Aug 3 - 18:34

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Alexander, I dont know about the credit thing, I just know I hear Lacey loud and clear.
Keyara you say???
I pretty sure I hear Ki-ara. hmm... most african names spell as they are pronounced. nit like in English, with all the "gh" and the "ck" and stuff.
Kichebo, your stickers are in my page!
but if you have any more then the ones you sent Krazy Kat please send 'em in, ok?
Wow!!!!!
I took 100000000 text files from Ryan's lion, and I'm goinna have a "read-out" all this week!
its ok, I have a life. I'm invited to a party this friday, so dont you worry about me reading my brains out...
ok, so I went to Ryan's lion, and there were 3 files with SP info.
ok, Lacey said in a chat in AOL she IS on SP, and that she
"had a great time doing the Lion King II".
good for you, Lacey! she also said "It is a made for video film.
It will be a lot of fun!".
from a chat with Ernie Sabella (Pumba) he says he WILL be on SP,
and that also Starring Kathleen Turner, Matthew Broderick and Nathan Lane!
usefull hint about Kathy?
this conversation was from 7/1/96, and he said that they had just started SP.
There ARE sketches of wacky wildbeast from some JCWTBK kind of a scene,
but maybe that was just an idea that wont make it to the the film?
Or maybe its a part of a song preformed by Kiara and that goes by the title "Just cant wait to be free"? (:
hmm... I think I repieted info, but at least we know where it came from...
you can find these files on Ryen's lion text archive. I think the address
is www.lionking.org/~ryan/lionking/text
by the way, did you know Ernie Sabella and Nathan Lane originally auditioned
for the part of the Hyenas?! weird world...

we are one

p.s. where can you get the book, again?
p.s.s. not being here so much time made me realize something...
I LOVE YOU GUYS ! ! !


Aug 3 - 18:34

Krazy Kat
The Kraziest of all the Kats
Location: Umm..here.
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Kichebo,
I sent the Kiara and Kovu stickers you sent me to Beerit and they're up at her site in the merchandise section. I'm sorry I didn't get your permission first but i told her they were yours and you deserve credit too, so you got credit. ;-)

At Beerit's site I did some more of my senseless fan-art...I'm not the best artist but I try. "Super Kovu!" A plain silly piece is there, Kovu walking (wow!) and my very first Kovu sketch (which looks like a cat) is there too under my art section.

I checked earlier today and my Upendi is under Sounds now- but i just cheked there and it's gone now! It's probably just my browser giving me the old one...oh well.

I'm buying The Black Cauldron tomorrow to add to my Disney collection (I've never seen it so I cant judge it right now- I don't really care, I collect animated films.

I like The Chronicles of the Pridelands a lot, but what I like just as much, or even better, is Chris Boyce's series of stories, the first being "The Pridelands". If you're a true TLK fan, you'll have read or at least heard of these. If you haven't, shame on you. ;-)

I do like other Bluth films besides The Secret Of Nimh. I like The Land Before Time, JUST THE FIRST ONE, let me stress, I HATE HATE HATE the sequels and how they destroyed the original, I think LBT had some feeling.(Not as much as TLK, but it was there.) I think TLK took some concepts from that movie too, (ex: Circle Of Life, Parent speaking to him after death- even though this happened in Hamlet in both those movies they both occur by looking into water..)

I also like All Dogs Go To Heaven (But the sequel was VERY poor, another thing that tormented the original like the short-lived series..)

And I also like An American Tail. But I'm getting too off topic so I'd better run.

Ta Ta,
Krazy Kat


Aug 3 - 18:29

Kiara AGAIN!

Location:
E-mail:

I STILL WANT THE BOOK, get a grip and get a life! I think that it will be for sale this wednesday.
Oh and i have been posting frequently because I have nothing better to do on my computer is to just wait for someone to post something, and I like posting and setting weirdos like I Still Want The Book straight. Well, my 2 cents for now.


Aug 3 - 18:08

I STILL WANT THE BOOK
?
Location: ?
E-mail: If I told you, I would have to lock you up for 100 yrs

I WANT THE SP BOOK! I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Will anyone tell me when the book is going to be for sale???? I WANT IT!


Aug 3 - 18:05

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Outlands
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Kichebo, I would like to see those pics that you scanned in from the coloring book! Anonymous Pooh Lover, get a life!


Aug 3 - 17:58

Anonymous Pooh Lover

Location:
E-mail: I'm not telling !

i was here


Aug 3 - 17:55

Kichebo

Location:
E-mail: Nuka311@aol.com


no new SP stuff at the Magic Kingdom in Orlando, just thought I would report...
and i have the images from the sticker/coloring set scanned in, if anyone would like me to email them. or if any web-page owners would like them to be posted on their page, just lemme know.


Aug 3 - 17:55

Alexander

Location:
E-mail:

Beerit, I hate to burst your bubble, but Lacey Chabert was not in the credits on the Mulan Sing Along so we must assume she is not providing any vocals for Kiara.

And yes, in the Magoo preview Kiara's name is pronounced twice as Key-ara (by Kiara herself and by Pumbaa).

It is now getting on my nerves that the Disney Store already has so much SP merchandise. I managed to not get any of the new stuff so far. I've only gotten the bean bags and one Kovu ceramic figure.

By the way, just my opinion, but I think the bean bag of Kovu looks WAY better than the large plush version at the Disney Store. The nose on the bean bag in particular looks a lot better than the plush.

Why in the world do you guys like Don Bluth movies?! Ugh, they are just awful in my opinion. Bluth over-animates his stuff and the characters have busy designs. That "Pebble and the Penguin" movie has to be the worst so far from Bluth----I could only watch maybe 15 minutes of it when it aired on TV. For the life of me I don't understand why Bluth is called a "genius" by some people.

The only Bluth movie I thought was good was "The Secret of Nimh."


Aug 3 - 17:45

Ducky

Location:
E-mail:

Thannx outsider, i wish they keeped it in TLK!!! oh and Kiara, id love to read your HMC, i liked your other one! i cant wait till you finish it!


Aug 3 - 17:35

Panthera Leo
Upset TLKfan
Location: Norway
E-mail: pleo83@hotmail.com

I just have to put my head in my hands and cry when people like JAD showes up. I wonder why they do that... It's even worse than Pooh-lover. We all had said bad things about Pooh, but we'd done nothing to this JAD-guy. Why can't he just leave us alone? Why don't we all just spam down his e-mail..? (evil grin.) J/K. He says we have no life, but what about him? JAD, we have a life because we love TLK. You can't have a life when you spend your time to do things like that...
I wish that we could block certain people out from here. Let's just ignore him, like we should do with Pooh-lover. We're better than him and we know it, because we don't do things like he did...

TLK rules forever & ever.

-Panthera.


Aug 3 - 16:37

Kiara

Location:
E-mail:

I WANT THE BOOK!!, You just gotta be patient about the book!
I can be impatient at times, but I try to controll it, which you should do.
I bought the Pal Patrol book back in April or May, and I was wondering about the "one of the cubs has its head stuck in a tree" thing after I learned the full story. Maybe there are other cubs at Pride Rock, but aren't Simba's or Nala's cubs or aren't related to Kiara at all............


Aug 3 - 15:56

Zinou

Location: Ngorongoro
E-mail:

Heya guys!

I saw that book 'The Pal Patrol'.
(Except it cost 4.00 at the store I saw it!)
And I looked at it. Its not SP material, guys.
It just shows how 'Simba has responsiblities now and cant goof off with timon and Pumbaa' to put it shortly.

Although: In one page, where Zazu was coming to get Simba /from/ goofing off with T&P, Zazu was sumoning Simba because " The cubs had their heads caught in a tree again."
The "CUBS"? As in -- Kiara? Nuka? Kovu?
Lion cubs? I wish Disney would be more specific, but that seems awful suspicious to me.
Bye! -=Zinou=-


Aug 3 - 15:45

Christian

Location:
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

The Simpsons last night stole a quote from Lion King. Marge was looking at a garbage dump and said something like "What a trashhole" and Homer said, "Ixnay on the ashholetray." I wonder how many people watching knew it was borrowing from TLK. I'll rent Black Cauldron tomorrow and if there's an SP preview with new sounds, I'll put them up on my site.


Kiara-holic #1


Kiara's Ever Expanding Home Page (Click on the theater image to enter)


Aug 3 - 15:42

I WANT THE BOOK!!!!!!!!
Mouseworks book fan
Location: Book Land
E-mail: If I told you, I would have to lock you up for 100 yrs!

Nala, are you comepletly sure that the Mouseworks SP book will hit store shelves this Wednesday?? I can't wait at all! I have 0 patience for anything!!!


Aug 3 - 15:41

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Hey, the SP stickers are in my site starting tomorrow! did you know about them? I have'nt seen a mentioning of them on KH#1's site. they're cool. I will load it all, alll the fan fics and the new sounds, and all of it!
listen. there's a new artist called "Nightwolf".
I HIGHLY recomend you check his work out in my site, he is AMAZING!
hmm... I read somewhere that Kiara's name is pronounced "Key-ara". is it?! you cant tell from the Mr. Magoo preview.
Zinou, if you need HTML help, go to these sites:
http://www.quest.internet.co.uk/drh/HTML/
http://www.harlequin.com/products/dpp/webmaker/
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/3168/
http://www.quest.internet.co.uk/drh/HTML/
I think they're helpfull enough. (:
or you can download netscape nevigator that comes with a program that allows you to make pages with no need of HTML knowlade.
ooooor you can go to www.tucows.com and find zillions of HTML programs that require no knolade what-so-ever in HTML. pshiu, I need air...
Dara, yes, the chronicles is the best!
to tell you the truth I nearly cried, but I hardly ever cry. how odd... it takes a LOT to make me cry. and the chronicles almost made it, which is quite amazing!
but how did Taka's eye pop out of his soket? isnt that kinda horrofieing?!
Ducky, I heard the song in MP3 format I downloaded from www.lionking.net. unfortunatly his songs page is down, and I have earased the song from my pc so I cant send it to you. sorry. try emailing the www.lionking.net guy. maybe he can help.
No, I'm sure Lacey is the singing voice!
I mean, come on! how can you miss such a unique voice like hers? though she DOES suck for the part of the singing voice. let's face it, the girl cant sing. I liked the piano. I thought it was neat. but if you're worried SP wont be african enough, I think "Upendi" will cover the loss... (:
Kasi, hope you like the chronicles.
I know I do. I'm up to page 44. by the way, what happened to Mabatu?! I have'nt heard from him in a while??? did he die from the draft or something when I was not looking?!
What's with the info on Brian's SP section from a catalog. which catalog is it? where did ypu get it and where did they dig up that crap?! (sorry)
I mean, we've seen that Zira and Kovu are in it together in killing Simba, so how can it be Kovu's a good guy right from the start?!
makes no sence...

we are one

p.s. dont get pissed on JAD. who cares what he thinks?
p.s.s. Nandi, chill out! nobody saw SP!
it was probebly a type o' or something!


Aug 3 - 14:38

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Lands
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

I have some new fan fiction. It's called the Hakuna Matata Cronicles. It's about how Simba grows up, and I created it because my first story revolves around SP, so that story won't be finished untill Thanksgiving. So if anyone wants to read HMC, I will e mail you what I have of the story


Aug 3 - 14:32

Nandi
Timon's wife and mother of 2 kits
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: DaMish86@aol.com

KIARA, you said that you saw SP?? Please e mail me the whole story!! I want to know!! Pleeeeaaase oh pleeeaaase with a cherry on top? =)


Aug 3 - 14:19

Kiara

Location:
E-mail:

Hey all! I am working on another peice of fan fiction called the Hakuna Matata Chronicles, because my TLK2 story will have to wait untill November to be finished. I am going back a little bit, but how could Nuka be Kiara's betrothed? Nuka wants to kill Simba, and why would Simba choose him? I don't think anyone would want a son in law that wants to kill you, and about the Don Bluth movies, the only good movie he made was All Dogs Go to Heaven, and ever since it came out when I was three years old, I still love it. The only thing I don't like is the sequel, because they didn't put the little girl Anne Marie back in, and very few of the origional characters..............


Aug 3 - 14:11

Outsider

Location: Banished
E-mail:

For Ducky and anyone who's interested, here are the lyrics to Timon's missing verse in Hakuna Matata:

Timon: [speaking] Then maybe you need a new lesson! Repeat after me: Hakuna Matata.
Simba: What?
Pumbaa: Ha-ku-na Ma-ta-ta. It means no worries!
T: Uh-huh. Two little words that'll change your life!
S: Really?
T: Kid, I was not always the calm, cool meerkat you see before you. No sir-ee! Why, [singing] when I was a young meerkat...
P: When he was a young meerkat...
T: Very nice!
P: Thanks.
T: I worked in a colony, payin' my dues. Accepting without question the prevailing views that a meerkat's life was one long grind. Diggin' holes, standin' guard 'til it crossed my mind... I was wrong!
P: He was wrong!
T: And all alone!
P: All alone!
T: All that I needed...
P: What did you need?
T: Was to have heeded...
P: Say it, Timon!
T: Hakuna Matata, what a wonderful phrase. Hakuna Matata, ain't no passin' craze.
P: Ditto! (?)
T: It means no worries for the rest of your days. It's our problem-free philosophy. Hakuna Matata.
S: Hakuna Ma -- does that really work?
T: Ha ha ha! Does it work? Oh, that's rich. Oh Pumba, tell 'em!
P: Listen to me, kid. Just sit down there! Have I got a story for you...

[Pumbaa verse starts here]

Have a great day!


Aug 3 - 13:22

KIARA

Location:
E-mail:

DON'T TELL ME THAT I SUCK. YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SENT THAT MASS EMAIL TO US ALL WITH THAT STUPID MESSAGE TELLING US TO GET A LIFE ON AOL.

Well anyway, I saw the whole movie of Simba's Pride and it was totally awesome! I think you all should go and buy it, oh and the reason I got to see it was because some of my relatives work at Disney.

Kiara


Aug 3 - 13:14

JAD

Location:
E-mail: JAD187@aol.com

ALL OF YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!
LION KING WAS THE WORST MOVIE I EVER SAW AND THE SEQUEL SUCKS TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ALL SUCK! AND ANOTHER THING I DO HAVE A LIFE SO DON'T TELL ME TO GET ONE! YOU ALL ARE TOTAL IDIOTS! GET A LIFEW ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!


Aug 3 - 13:09

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala612@hotmail.com

Hey guys--long time no see! Yes it's me, just under a different address. I'm the stupidest person I know right now. I changed my password for my mail at the old address, but I forgot what it was, and I can't remember if it's TLK related or SP related. I screwed up big time! So I can't read all my important mail!

About the Scar and Hercules thing. Andreas Deja was the supervising animator for Herc, and as a little joke he drew Scar as the lion on Herc's head. That's what you saw Blue Lion, and it WAS Scar.

I reserved SP! I went to the mall and got it all done and then had to put up with a friend in the passenger seat playing with my Pumbaa puppet. Auggh!

Black Caldron does strike me at having a preview, but can anyone tell me if Kippendorf's tribe (sp) has a preview on it? It's an old question, but when you're in a place where internet has hardly been heard of, and the big thing is to help with the haying, you learn not to expect too much.

Has anyone seen the Y. Kiara and Y. Kovu snoglobe at D. Store? It was really cute!

The SP book went to the presses to be published yesterday. Official release is this Wed (the 5th). My mommy has already promised to buy it for me! I also bought the Mulan sing-a-long. The part Kiara does I think is a clip of her doing a reprise to the song. That's my opinion.

Since Nuka/Nunka only has a listing as an adult voice, maybe he only meets the characters as an adult. I mean, if our guess of Nuka/Nunka being Kiara's betrothed, then maybe he meets her as an adult. Just a guess with a VERY long post! I've missed you guys!

Love and nuzzles!

Nala


Aug 3 - 11:24

Rafiki
Shamon
Location: Haven
E-mail: DPelzel495@aol.com

What's this I hear about an SP preview in the Black Cauldron?


Aug 3 - 11:07

Ducky

Location:
E-mail:

OOps! forgot to ask, Beerit, where did you find out that info about timons verse?! i wanna see!!!


Aug 3 - 11:04

Ducky

Location:
E-mail:

Thanx Christian, i didnt know you were hidding it, i thought it would be on the page as a link or something, my bad. i like the pic though, kiara looked alot skinnier in the face, it was really cute though.
Beerit, i know you said that a long time ago, i was just restating it, im sorry if it made you mad.


Aug 3 - 10:56

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

Maybe Africa has a wide range of climat, but you're not going to tell me there's a winter there like in Europe or the US! Winters with snow and ice... Only the highest parts of Africa (like the mountain 'Kilimanjaro') have snow. Maybe it's like Amphriss says, Africa has a "wet" and a "dry" season (well, at least in the Serengeti) The dry season is in the winter and it's very tough for animals to survive then. Maybe if you're an outcast as Kovu is, survival must be hard.

And then... I guess Kovu has seen at least ONE winter in his life. He has become an adult in SP and like everybody knows, it takes 3 years to become one for a lion.

Kiara, this place is dead, but what's wrong with a little chat in the meantime?? I mean, if nobody's posting anymore, I wouldn't come back again I guess... indeed I would love to hear some news too.

Thanx Beerit! Lov ya! Sick of all the merchandise talk? Maybe because we can't get it... I only can read about it. Too bad! Told ya you would like the Chronicles! I think a fan fic is good if you feel strong emotions when reading it. Like anger or sadness. If you're crying...mmmmmm I guess it's one of the GREATEST fan fics ever made!

I also have read billion of fan fics. But everthing David Morris and John Burkitt have written is BEAUTIFUL!!! Now THEY know how to tell a stroy!!!!

I also like "Homecomming", the "Rogue Lion", the "Broken Legacy" and "Tales of Tanabi" o.k it's not SP related, but I thought you might wanted to know...

I think I've seen all T&P shows (at least the ones showed in Europe) I watch them because they're TLK related. But I don't like them. Much better are the Aladdin series.

Well, no news from me... Guess we'll have to wait for a preview from the Black couldron....

*we are one*
Dara


Aug 3 - 10:20

Raksha

Location: R. Seeonee
E-mail:

I remember Scar falling out w/ the trash on that T&P episode -- That show is quite an abomination.
Zinou, what'd you mean about Andreas Deja being a traitor? Were you referring to those Scar appearances in Herc? Was it actually Andreas who drew those? Well anyway, in my opinion Andreas betrayed just about anyone who has anything to do with it when he animated Hercules. After overseeing the creation of all those cool bad guys, THIS is what he does? Perhaps he shoulda quit while he was ahead. Hope no Herc fans take offense
Oh well, yeah I saw the Nuka and Vitani beanie tags. They looked poorly drawn, that doesn't tell much.

-Raksha* Busa ngo thando, busa ngo xolo


Aug 3 - 09:09

Zinou

Location: Ngorongoro
E-mail:

Oh, and I forgot to post one thing that I wanted to post:

In T&P, that dumb TV show that disgraces TLK, I saw one part with this cartoon, with Zazu, and he was mad because he'd counted the wrong amount of animals in the Pride lands ( He was one off ) and when he was looking for something, he picked up a garbage can and shook it : trash, garbage, and Scar ( Taka= swahili Garbage )fell out, and thne growled and bounced off the screen. That was funny. Just wanted to post that, and:

Andreas Deja is a traitor for drawing such blashphemy unto Scar!

Well, Gotta Go.

-=Zinou=-


Aug 3 - 07:41

Krazy Kat
The Kraziest of all the Kats
Location: In this Chair
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Well, I said I'd post it. Here it is. ;-) Caji from the TLK-L posted this- I'm not a good parody writer...

"*he he* I can see it all now:
(scene cuts to adult Kiara sitting in the dark of night. Suddenly, the air begins to stir and Kiara can make out the image of a lion in the clouds.)

Muffy: Kiara, you have forgoten me.

Kiara: What's going on?!

Muffy: You must take your place, Kiara. We are oooone....

(the clouds drift into the black night and the wind dies down. Kiara has a new sense of inspiration, but as she gets up to leave the clouds reform)

Muffy: Oh, and don't forget to get some milk on the way.

Kiara: yes, okay.

(the clouds lose form then reshape again)

Muffy: Sooo, how are you?

Kiara (whining): Why won't you leave me alone?

Muffy: I'm bored, and Matlock isn't on tonight.

(well, you get the picture.)"......

Umm...that's all I had to say. =)

Bye!
Krazy Kat


Aug 3 - 07:34

Zinou

Location: Ngorongoro
E-mail:

Hey guys.

Chris Boyce: I think I've read the Chronicles of the Pride Lands, but I'm not sure. I've read a bajillion fanfics. Lemme see....I dunno.
I've read Taka's Song, TLK:ToT, uh,..and a bunch of other things. I'll go take a look. but, I think I've seen it b4 and liked it, because the only peice of fanfic I DON'T like is 'Circle of Revenge'. Its written badly and I just dont like it at all. Oh, and I've read Stranger in the Pridelands.

Anyhoo, I've seen no more merchandise stuff. Where did Cold Dragon(I think) see those action figures? I'd like to see those, at least.
I'd really like some one to say where; I've scanned the 'Mill up and down and either I'm misreading or its not there.

And, as far as cousins marrying, yeah, lions don't care. But guys, beware! What happens if the critics think of SP as too in depth for kids? What If Disney gets pressured and hasta pull it? lets not put too much emphasis on the 'innapropriate for kids' campaign...
There is two pictures of Nuka and Vitani I've seen ( The tags for the beanies ) But I've seen no adult pictures.Has anyone ever considered the possibility that Nuka is Simba's child?
Or is there something alreday stating otherwise that I've missed?
(BTW, In the ends of most all the TLK books I've seen, They quote along these lines:
" Rafiki then holds up Simba and Nala's new
>>son<< high above his head, continuing the everlasting circle of life"
Or to that effect.
Now a few books do say 'cub' as in general, but the majority say 'son'.
( None of them say daughter. ;) )
Disney needs to make up its mind before they start throwing all those bacon strips of merchandise delight out to us ravenous canine buyers. ( And I saw that sticker book too -- geez, are they moronic or what?!)

I did go to B&N the other day, but the lady behind the counetr was in short a moron that didn't like the computer that was pecking at, didn't like kids, and told me she couldn't see if anything was coming in or not. ( Funny, other people've done it b4).Oh well. <:-)
Patience has its virtues.

Thats about all I can say fer' now. :)
Bye!

-=Zinou=-

~Once again, how does one use the HTML tags correctly? I'd really like some help; I dont enjoy screwing up the whole rumro mill because I'm stupid.~


Aug 3 - 07:29

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello Folks,

With all this talk of the Chronicles, I was wondering if any of you (apart from KrazyKat :-) has read any of my fiction. If you have what did you think of it? If you didn't like it, why not? What is it that turned you off it. If you haven't read it but have heard of it, why haven't you tried it? I'm wondering all this because I know enloyment of my writing is something of an acqired taste (it doesn't appeal to everyone by any means) but I can never quite tell why....

Bye,
Chris.

http:\\www.users.globalnet.co.uk\~talami


Aug 3 - 02:51

Krazy Kat
The Kraziest of all the Kats
Location: Here
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Geez Beerit,
when you post you POST! I enjoy reading lengthy posts better than pointless one-liners, though. =P. Egh, you were ok tangoing in my dream Beerit, as far as I remember... I never thought I'd show up in one of yours though! Poor Kovu.. ;-).

Egh, on TLK-L someone posted something funny about Mufasa's ghost appearing AGAIN in SP. But it's in my other mailbox- I guess I'll post it tomorrow or something. It IS quite cute. =) (Do I use too many Smileys? Hmm..)

I wonder who does Nuka and Vitani's cub voices? Obviously Jennifer Lien and Andy Dick are the adult voices. Hmmm....(I think I may be saying Hmm too much too..)

Beerit, will you put up my new Fan arts I sent ye? And those stickers? I hope so..oh, BTw did I send you Upendi for your site? Ah well... =)

Well this post is going nowhere and I have absolutely no news whatsoever, So I'm gonna jet.

Bye,
Krazy Kat


Aug 2 - 22:31

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@lionking.org

Chronicles of the Pridelands is not a book. It is a fan fic that you can down load it at

http://www.lionking.org/~ryan/lionking/text/fanfic/gospel.txt

OK???


Aug 2 - 21:48

Kasi

Location:
E-mail:

Hi,uh where do yal buy Cronicles of the Pride Lands at?


Aug 2 - 20:19

Raksha
Seeonee Pack
Location: R. Seeonee
E-mail:

You think Lacey may be Kiara's singing voice? I was thinking she sounded like the speaking voice myself.
Oh yeah, Scar appeared as a rug in Herc didn't he? I think that's what I was thinking of (as a major Scar fan, I don't find it too amusing myself. Oh well)
When are there going to be pics of Nuka and Vitani??!!! I'm also waiting to hear Vitani, as I've heard she's voiced by Jennifer Lien (fellow Voyager fans, we will always remember Kes and the way the producers decided never to mention her again after she left - Ugh!)
I've only heard mention of Dreamworks' 'Prince of Egypt'. Blue Lion, where on earth did you see a preview??


Aug 2 - 20:02

Rafiki
Shamon
Location: Haven
E-mail: DPelzel495@aol.com

Hey just wait until after TLK:SP comes out. Now just think were going to be talking about this Movie for weeks into Thanksgiving. We'll regulate how the Music score held up to the orignal TLK soundtrack, compare the Disney animations of both films and we'll talk more about how the real villian is Scar's widow Zira. Zira just seems to be on cocain as well as some other illegal drugs from the pet peves. Plus let's talk about one scene from the Magoo preview. When the wilderbeasts are running it seems that a lioness is headed to the back of the herd, (possibly Kiara.) And it seems the end of the movie, just a possiblity mind you that Kovu and Kiara are going through their mantlement and not shooting for the throne. That's my prediction on the ending from the previews. Now at the end of this year, if SP makes a bigger cut then the original movie, someone had better start a movie campain for TLK: 3. People lend me your thoughts.


Aug 2 - 20:01

Blue Lion

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I've been to stores today and didn't see the SP book.. good thing I ordered it. I don't mind if the story is spoiled.

About Scar in Hercules... I saw him when the painter was making a pot with Herc on it but I'm not sure whether or not the lion he punched was Scar... maybe I should check that again.

What's all this with the Don Bluth movies all of a sudden? I used to like them but now All dogs go to Heaven is the only one I still think is cute. Balto was a pretty good movie, but I didn't think the characters were as well developed as in TLK... Balto himself was the only one that they gave real 'feeling' to IMHO. Despite that, Balto was in my opinion the closest thing to actually reaching Disney yet... I think Dreamworks is going to be a real close second if not a tie with Disney.. I saw a preview of their Prince of Egypt and it looked almost as impressive as TLK.... almost....

I too want to see Nuka and Vitani 'in action' it's starting to really bug me that Disney isn't showing thme! Oh well, when I get the book I'll see them. I really want to know what they look like as adults.

Sorry no news from me... I did post the words on the figures box a while back.. scroll down a bit it's been a couple of days. That part about Mufasa's spirit communicating with Kiara explains why it sounds like Mufasa saying we are one in the Magoo preview. We'll probably be seeing more SP related stuff in the next couple of months.. only two to go before the release! If I rememebr right TLK mercahndise was released mostly in May. If the SP video is popular with the wider public, they'll probably market it more. That's what happened with TLK, they put out some stuff in the begining and then more as they realized it was popular. I think Disney learned it's lesson with Pocahontas about over-marketing before you know if you have a hit or not. Personally I hope it's a hit... then we TLK fans can have more for our collections!

(phew what a post!!! OY!!)
Blue Lion


Aug 2 - 19:01

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

OH MY GOD!
MY EYES!!!! THEY'RE MELTING!!!!!!!!!!
OH, MY GOD, OH NO, OH GOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I CANT BELIEVE THIS!!! ... 8 days!!!!!!!!!
8 days!!!!!! I am NOT reading all of THAT!!!!!!
ok, sorry, but I'll respond to only a few messages. I dont
have time to read them all. I'm fixing like a zillion stuff in my
site, and adding new stuff (if I can get a NORMAL FTP loader of course!)
Dara, I will never, EVER abandone SP!!!! you hear?
thoguh I seriously thought about it. I'm sick of all the merchandise talk, ENOUGH!!!
but, I'm ok! I'm back in buisness, and I aint going anywhere!
I learked in the shadows, waiting for my chance to attack and like the mighty... ok, off to the posts...

Ducky, I said it about the lion in herc a LOOONG time ago, just now you remember?!
I think its Kovu. go frame by frame and you'll see he looks A LOT like Kovu.
would'nt that be cool?!

"Upendi" is definatly more african. I liked we are one better though.
I think Disney had really out done themselves.
(is there a thing like out done or am I making this up?)

kese, Garbage, worthless or wanting, you say?
no wonder he was so messed up...
Dara, I started reading chronicles.
wow! it rules! if you have'nt read it, RUN AND GET IT!
I bacame a Taka holic just because of that story!
poor Taka, I never felt sorry for him till now.
ERG! and I hate that traitor Mufasa! even though he did nothing wrong!
Sarabi led him on pretty good didnt she?!
here's tip to finding out if a fan fic is any good:
if you read it and cant stop thinking about it for two days, its good!
I sat around in my room two days trying to make a case scenario for each
thing that popped up in my brain.
what if he did this, what if he did that.
I even made up a new fan fic of what would have hapened if Taka would'nt
have woke up that morning and listened to Ahadi's and Mufasa's talk.
its neat. I think I'll make a fan fic of it someday.
Stop saying Muffy and Sassie gave Taka his scar. there are many versions to that scar. personally I prefer the chronicles's version. I'll say no more
couse this message is long enough as it is!
Kovu King Of Kings, Disney made a Timon part where he tells us why he was an outcast, but for some reason that
I will probebly never understand, they didnt check it in the song.
basicly, Timon lived a hard working life "exepting without questions the provailing news, that a meerkat's life were one looong crying".
or something like that. its very close to what he said. then he realized he didnt have to work his butt off for nothin and he left.
YYYYYHHHEEEEEAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! we were right!!!! lacey IS Kiara's voice, her singing voice!!!!
its abvious! I'M SURE!!!! she sounds JUST like lacey!
"or am I just one part
of some big plan?
Simba: Even those who are gone. . ."
no, it does'nt add up. the Kiara lyrics are not there...
poor Kiara. she sounds totally bumed. I feel sorry for Simba. his daughter's a real rebel.
waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait.............
what kind of sing along tape????
a VCR tape?! Where did you get the Kiara secnes???????
WHAT'S A SING ALONG TAPE ANYWAY?????????
I though its a tape with songs and you sing... along!!!
no a real tape with images and stuff!!!!
so what was on it exactly??!
does it say on the cover it has SP in it couse I might stumble upon it someday and want to buy it so tell me how
to recognize it ok? Toys R Us? I'll check it out. do all the toys R us world wide have the same stuff?
did you notice all we ever do is talk about mer???
let's talk about something else I'm sick of it!
I had a dream that me and Kovu were in PR, and this elephant came to us, then he ate Kovu,
then he told me to shut up even though I didnt say anything, then Krazy Kat came and did the tango.
I guess I get too much impact out of these messages, uh?
I think I have'nt had a normal dream in my life.
I never dreamt I was a princess or something.
I always dreamt about flying on a magic carpet with Lusil Bull (yhea, I really did....)
pretty freaky uh? making being my friend worth while.... :(... :))
sorry for the long post, I had lots of catching up to do and I finally DID read all the messages.
Krazy kat, how did I Tango? do you think I should get a dancing instructor?

we are one

p.s. Hmm... just imagine, in 2 months we'll be knee deep in SP info, merchandise and pics...
hhhaaaaaaaaaaa.......... one can only dream...
p.s.s. yes, Scar apeared twice
once as a rug, once as a monster. or was that Kovu?


Aug 2 - 18:51

Christian

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To Ducky and others: I wasn't trying to really hide the link to the "Pride Rock Pairs" thing so that no one could find it, but if you want to know where it is, just click on the first "A" in the title "Kiara's Sahifa."


I know of one spot in Hercules where it shows Scar's hide.


Kiara's Sahifa


Aug 2 - 18:43

Ducky

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Zinou, i saw the same exact straw!!! i posted that a while back!!!! except i also saw a simba one, nala one, kiara one, and kove(i dont remember but i think they had a joined timon&pumbaa one but i dont remember, they had a really ugly aladdin one that pissed me offf cause i love alladin)

ok, i went to my disney store and they have everything that everyone else says EXCEPT i cant find the framed pick w/ vintani! I LOOK ALL OVER THE DAMN PLACE!!!! well whatever, ill see anouther pic of her sooner or later. hey, did anyone get the black cauldron yet? was there a preview for sp? i still have to make my mom get it for me cause i have no money(i need a job despratly)


Aug 2 - 18:33

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I am going to be very mad if some little kids who chew on their Simba plushies at the DS come up to the SP display and think Kovu is Simba's son. yeah, right. I mean that SP should be a little more advertised that KOVU IS SCAR'S SON and Kiara is Simba's DAUGHTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OOOH! I think that is going to be a big pet peeve of mine, and I think that little kids in between the ages of 2 and 7 won't really understand the full story of SP and might be confused that cousins get married and they might not appreciate the genius of Walt Disney behind it............


Aug 2 - 18:29

Kiara

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Hey all! I just rented Mr. Magoo again, and I watched the SP preview again for the hundreth time, and all of those previews and trailers are getting pretty dull with the exception of that Timon and Pumbaa one where they are talkin (that was boring from the start). Oh I wish that there will be more footage for the film cause I want to see Nuka and Vitani, but of course then there is my book thing........ I will probably get it soon but if anyone gets the book before I do, SPOIL THE STORY FOR ME,AND E MAIL ME PICTURES FROM THE BOOK!!!! thanx


Aug 2 - 18:19

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Hey I didn't like Hercules very much, but if I recall weren't there not one but TWO times when a lion looking like Scar appeared?


Aug 2 - 16:51

Zinou

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HEY!
I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME NEWS!!!

Listen up!

I saw the first ever piece of SP merchandise
(that was not a dinnerware, plush or ceramic)
outside a Disney Store!!!

It was this little pink swirly-straw, with a little plastic Kiara gripped on it. At first I thought it was Nala, (kid nala) but when I looked closer on its tag, it said

The Lion King
"Simba's Pride"

On the sticker. Whoo-hoo! I saw it at a Hobby Lobby in a pile of other Disney (Pluto, Mickey, stuff like that) straws. There wasn't any other SP ppl tho, and my mom wouldn't let me buy one.
They were $2.50.

Well, I think I'm the first to post about that --
so, bye fer' now!! :)

( BTW, My mom said she'd get me the Kiara-puppet/lithograph/SP Tape thingie ! Whoo-hoo!)

-=Zinou=-

~Anyone know how to use those HTML tags right?~


Aug 2 - 16:50

jenna

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ignore that addy, I messed up.


Aug 2 - 16:42

Jenna

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did anyone see the spoof they did on Saturday Night Live last night with Claire danes as tinkerbell? I thought that was hilarious!! She could've been a dancer! It was all 'pan's fault. Personally, I didn't like Peter Pan, the movie. Well, that's my three cents, bye.

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Aug 2 - 16:41

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I just got back from the disney stor.The creamic Kiara's snout dose look weird but Kovu looks fine to me.The SP snowglobe looks cool but looks a little weird cuz Kovu and Kiara were big compared to the rest of the charictors on it.They had this cute 1-1 1/2 foot long Kovu doll.It had "beans" in its tummy.Has anybody seen the Kovu magic towl?It is cute!I only got the Kovu towl because my unkle said i could only get 1.I wanted to get a Simba one but ould not find.The Simba bean bag keychain is cute!The Timon doll i saw had missing tags and some holes.Oviously it was torcherd.The timon doll only had 5 strips when timon has 6!Why is it so hard to find Simba and Nala beanies but easy to find Kiara,timon and pumba.Kovu is in small suplys but can be found.If I dont find Simba and Nala i'll probably get dad to order them.But the hunt is half the fun.Kid Simba and Shenzi are my fav charictors with kid Nala,Timon,Banzi,Rafiki and Ed tying for 2nd.Fav songs:
TLK songs
CUFTLT?,
COL,
IJCWTBK
ROTPL songs
HLIY,
Kube
LKOB songs
none yet
Rare finds
Early version of CUFTLT?,
CUFTLT? jazz version
Be Prepared(reprise)
WeAre1


Aug 2 - 16:22

Ducky

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Kiara, your exactly right!!! the lion in hercules is supossed to look like scar!!! if anyone has ever seen it or not, there is a part in it when herc is pousing for a panting and he has a lion on his head and it is scar!!!! w/ the scar on his eye and everything!!!! this is because the same animator who drew scar is the same as the one who animated for hercules! she probubly thought it was funny! i like hercules though! the only recent disney movie i didnt like was pochahontis, now THAT sucked!!!!

KH#1, i went to your site and couldnt find the link to your picture of the game and stuff!! could you help me? thanxÜ


Aug 2 - 14:52

Kiara

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This place is dead! The reason why is no one is posting info because there is no news! I wish that the Disney Company would release more information about SP,(weird how there is no animated scenes of Nuka or Vitani) and to top it off, still no book :( Oh well, at least it is in stock and i will be getting it somewhere in this month, which is better than waiting till September, which is when the guy at BN told me (yeah, right) I will be patient and when I go to Chicago, they might have it there, and no one has givin me their opinion about big cities get books earlier, and they jump the gun........


Aug 2 - 14:33

Kiara

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While I was watching my Mulan Sing a long for the umpteenth time, I noticed something TLK related, but it wasn't in WeR1. It was in the Zero to Hero song (and yes, I hate Herc, but I couldn't help but notice. When Herc defeats all those monsters, he punches out a lion and sends him flying, but the strange thing about it is that the lion looks like Kovu or Scar, just more comical looking.


Aug 2 - 13:27

Christian

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When is that racism stuff ever going to end?


Aug 2 - 12:35

Ducky

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Kiara, id love to read your fan fic!!! please send it over if youd like, thanx:)
On anouther topic, has anyone seen the SP figurines in like stores like toys are us or KB cause i dont wanna buy them from the diseny store cause they usually cost 5 dollars extra!!!


Aug 2 - 12:32

Kovu

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Hey everyone.
This has nothing to do with TLK, but I was just nuked from my favorite chatroom, disconnected from my water company, fired by my racist boss, and had the loan on my car revoked.


Aug 2 - 08:16

Christian

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I think you might be talking about a book called "The Pal Patrol." I don't think its really SP related. Its the first in a series of Disney books being sold at supermarkets. They're all numbered and the TLK one is #1. Only the first few are $1, then they start to go up in price. They figure you'll pay it so you can complete the collection. Looked through it myself but never bought. That's not a judgment on whether its good or not, though.


Kiara-holic #1


Aug 2 - 07:11

Zira

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hi all,I just came back from Grand union(a food store) and their selling a simbas pride book about what happens to timon,pumba and simba after simba becomes king.its only $1.00 and it has 38 pages. its a good book! has anyone else seen it??


Aug 2 - 06:50

Kiara

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OOHHHHH! Today is the publishing date for the SP mouseworks book! If my local store doesn't have it, oohhh I swear! I'm going on vacation to Chicago, where I once lived, and maybe because it's a big city, they will have SP sooner and their B+N will jump the gun. I hope. I'm very impatient, but I will try not to be (suprise, suprise) Could anyone tell me their opinion about my "big cities get the books earlier" theory?????
I'm going to check my local BN and I hope they have the book.......
PS I HAVE SOME FAN FIC THAT I HAVE JUST BEGUN TO WRITE AND I NEED FEEDBACK! IF YOU WANT TO READ WHAT I HAVE OF MY STORY, I WILL E MAIL IT TO YOU AND THEN YOU E MAIL ME YOUR COMMENTS! THANX


Aug 2 - 05:43

Christian (KH#1)

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E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

I was able to scan in the cover of the box for the "Pride Rock Pairs: Animal Memory and Matching Game" and put it on my site as a hidden link. The link isn't too hard to find. Its somewhere on the front (framed) page and you don't even need to scroll down to find it.


Kiara's Sahifa


If you have trouble finding it, e-mail at my backup e-mail address at: iluvronco@hotmail.com


Did anyone ever see the Disney Dollars with Simba on them? I think it was a limited edition $10 one. My mom wouldn't get me one for last Christmas because she thought it was too immature. Whatever! Now I'm going to see if I can get one at a Disney Store. Hopefully they make a Kiara Disney Dollar.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Aug 2 - 04:32

Snowy

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Guess what? I just came back from a check at www.barnseandnoble.com for Simba's Pride under titles and they have it in stock and it will be shipped in one to two weeks to you!!! Mind you this is the Mouseworks book. 96 pages and all! Means that the stores themselves should be getting them soon enough, too!!


Aug 1 - 23:49

Rafiki
Shamon
Location: Haven
E-mail: DPelzel495@aol.com

Hey in the Magoo preview it seems that Zira has convinced Kovu that Simba is the enemy and during the confrontation between Simba and Kovu, Simba seems to be gaining the upperpaw. And I'm betting that the only reason why Simba is looking pissed in the section of Kovu walking with him, is that Simba even though he thinks Kovu is a B***H he can't kill him because of his father's (scar) sins. And if you think about the family tree....Kovu might just as well be Simba's cousin while Kiara is Kovu's second cousin. The whole point of the story is to factions of the same family are at war with each other.


Aug 1 - 22:15

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@LionKing.ORG

Why does Tigger keep looking down the toiet?
He'y looking for Pooh!
A friend told me Jay Lenno said it.

Me and a friend are working on the Mulan Singalong, I got the money but not the tech. Give us a few more days.

Kiara, Send me a copy of your fic, I Love reading fan fiction.


Aug 1 - 21:24

Stacy

Location: Tsavo,Africa
E-mail: Nala858585@aol.com

Okay.....id like to apologize for the post on the SP figurine set.....i couldnt get the exact words because i left the box at home..(im at the mall all day,remember?).Any ways, ill be going to the disney store soon...and ill be sure to report ALL the new items that i see in stock!
HaKuNa MaTaTa,
Stacy


Aug 1 - 20:27

Cold Dragon

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The more I hear about SP the more it sounds like Romeo and Juliet. TLK was supposed to be based on Hamlet, so why not base the next TLK movie on another Shakespear book. In Hamlet everyone ends up dead and of course in Romeo and Juliet the main charictors die also. Disney changed the ending of Hamlet so why not change the ending of Romeo and Juliet.

On another note I too like the Don Bluth films. As a kid I liked An American Tail and Land Before Time. Now I like the Rats of Nhym ( a very good book), and Balto is my second favorite animated movie ( take a guess what is my favorite one). Land Before Time is still a good movie, it reminds me alot of my cousin's personalitys and realy captures what being a kid is like.
There are more parallels between Land Before Time and TLK. For instance Littlefoot talks to his dead mother while looking at his reflection in a puddle of water.

Just a few thoughts :)


Aug 1 - 20:09

CrazyTLKFan
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I know what you are gonna say, Balto and LBT are not Disney movies, I was just giving an example of other animated movies. I liked Fox and the Hound's story though that didnt' have good animation. And yes, I agree that Steele is like Scar, and also some of the other characters in Balto are like the characters in TLK. And it does seemt hat LK took some stuff out of Land Before Time like the "Circle of Life" and a parent's ghost appearing in the form of clouds.


Aug 1 - 19:37

Amphriss

Location: Boston, MA
E-mail: Amphriss@AOL.com

Yes, Africa has a wide range of climates, but if TLK and SP are in the Serengetti as stated in the SP descriptions... than the "winter" thing doesn't hold water......Plains areas in that region have 2 main seasons.... the "wet season" and the "dry season". I suppose it could be a working title, that would make sense.
Also, I wouldn't worry so much about merchandise being "hidden" at the moment...I remember 6 months before TLK came out, the merchandise was "snuck in"...It wasn't until 1-2 months before a release when a full blown display is set up. I noticed that a tourist at the Faniel Hall DS seemed confused at who Kovu was ("Honey, I think that's Simba's Baby...") I think that all this covert merchandise is to gradually introduce the new characters and to grab interest. Face it, one stray kovu beanie is more eye-catching than an overblown in-your-face display. People are attracted to novelty.
There will probably be a breakfast cereal tie in (like Mulan and Chex). I'm sure Disney put a lot of thought into an October release...So close to the holiday season...
It is a surprise to me though that the sticker set showed Kovu in the wrong colors...they usually have a tight grip on product licensing. They used to be more uptight about being "character correct" (That 5 o'clock shadow on the Kiara ceramic figure bugs me too--- I only bought Nala --the best made figure....and Kovu, whose mane tuft could've been better shaped... Simba I'm still considering although he looks like he has Glaucoma).

Hey, Balto was a well made and animated movie --only certain scenes needed work like the avalanche scene. (It's actually strange how Steele looks a bit like Scar in some ways.)

Speaking of Land before time, cetain things from TLK seem stolen from tLBT ---- Circle of Life???
Cera is a lot like Nala personality-wise...just a thought (Didn't like tLBT---- the best Don Bluth movie was "Secret of Nimh" )


Aug 1 - 19:25

Christian (KH#1)

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Why doesn't one of us here get hired as a Disney Store Cast Member? That would solve a lot of our rumor problems. "Kovu's First Winter" sounds like a bad title for a movie but it could just be a working title, you know, sort of like "King of the Jungle" was for TLK. Africa has 19 of the 24 different climates identified on planet Earth. Two days ago I saw an IMAX movie called "Africa's Elephant Kingdom" and it showed a lot of Mt. Kilimanjaro and it always had snow on it. Also, winter doesn't have to mean snow. I've lived in California, Florida, and Hawaii and it doesn't snow in any of those places at winter time. I've also lived in Ireland and it snows very little there. Oh well, maybe the mill will start taking on a big TLK 3 focus now. I don't mind waiting and it really is not all that unusual for sequels to come out so far apart. The new Star Wars movie coming out next year will be released 16 years after "Return of the Jedi" and 22 years after "Star Wars: A New Hope," and I saw that 3 times in the theater in 1977. If they take so long to make TLK 3 it probably means they're doing a good job. This is all highly speculative and all I'm doing is speculating. Peace and love to everyone. :-)


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)

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Aug 1 - 18:11

Crazy LK Fan!
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Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: If I tell ya I'd have ta hurt ya. ;) J/K

First my 2 cents about the people badmouthing SP on the TLK-L...C'mon people. Simba's Pride isn't even out yet. How can you say it's gonna be bad just because of a few things that don't meet up to your expectations? How can you judge Simba's Pride by only a few trailers you have seen? Now, I am not ranting around going "It's gonna be great, it's gonna be GREAT!!! It's gonna be BETTER than TLK!!" I'm not doing that nor am I going "Ah, there were a few errors in the previews, the music doesn't fit the movie! Simba looks messed up, Simba's Pride will suck!" I saw both previews and I liked what I saw. I mean, It has better looking animation that most other Disney sequels, right? And all people should care about in a movie is the story and characters, not how good it's animated, or the music and such.. I am not saying you have to LIKE Simba's Pride, just be more optimistic about it. I mean movies like Balto and Land Before Time didn't exactly have stunning animation, or excellent characters, but it had an excellent story, and it touched peoples hearts. Be glad and grateful that Disney is making a sequel for the highest grossing animated movie of all time. They are not just making it for kids or adults...they are making it for us... the Lion King Fans. It may not be the "Most Perfect Disney Sequel" but I'd enjoy it because it's the continuation of the best Disney movie ever. And as a Lion King fan, I'd enjoy it, no matter how it is. :)

Second, I am glad they are merchandising SP...I mean, they should. It shows they recognize how popular TLK is. But I do agree that they are putting stuff out WAY to early...I mean most people, except us TLK fans, don't even know who Kovu or Kiara are...




Aug 1 - 18:09

Kiara
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I have some fan fic by me that isn't finished, and I will send what I have of it to anyone who wants to read it because I want feedback! I will be completing the full story around the beginning of November,or the minute I am finished watching SP for the first time. I NEED SOME PEOPLE TO READ IT!!!!! I WANT FEEDBACK! So ask for what I have of the story and I will e mail it to you


Thanx


Aug 1 - 18:05

Kiara
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The outland isn't the desert where Simba was found by Timon and Pumbaa, because the croc scene where Kiara almost gets eaten is in the Outlands, and there is no alligators or swamps in deserts. About that TLK3, I don't believe it. I mean releasing it in 2004? That would make 12 years for the full TLK story to be complete, and the Alalddin full story came out in 5 yrs and the beauty and the beast full story came out in 7 yrs. Besides, we do not know for sure if Kiara and Kovus story turns out that they get married, I know that is what probably is going to happen, but you never can be too sure. Winter??? In Africa??? That seems kinda strange because of the usual climate.........


Aug 1 - 16:37

Krazy Kat
The Kraziest of all The Kats
Location: Umm...right here.
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Hey Folks,

I'd have to agree with Alexander on this "Kovu's First Winter" thingy. It sounds really unreal and even if they do decide to to a third movie I seriously doubt it'd have winter someplace in the title. I'm not sure that they're (the lions) aware what winter and seasons are. Yet they are given human charactaristics and senses, and this is Disney we're talking about here, so...

I'm not sure if the SP merchandise is doing too well. it's always wedged in the back of the store at my DS and there's a lot of it. I'm sure as soon as more people become aware of the new characters n stuff, they'll start buying.

Is anyone bothering to MPEG the new We Are One sequence? Ah well...

The Black Cauldron and Meet The Deedles are coming out on Tuesday here in the US, so keep your eyes peeled for any new previews in one form or another. I'm not getting Meet the Deedles but I'll prolly be getting The Black Cauldron for my collection. I'd also like to see it. I'm sure the books are better though- they always are.

Well, that's about it for today, all.

Ta Ta,
Krazy Kat
The Kraziest of all the Kats


Aug 1 - 15:42

Alexander

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I think that Lion King 3 stuff is just a hoax. That "Kovu's Winter" sounds like a fan fiction thing to me----I wouldn't trust it! I seriously doubt they'll do anything like that! Would "Winter" even matter in Africa?!? It doesn't snow in the Savannah!!

Remember, we also heard about a new TLK TV series supposedly coming out, and that was a hoax also. (There's no new Lion King series planned).

Kiara may sound like Lacey a little, but the credits on the Mulan Sing Along tape do not include any mention of Lacey Chabert.

A little off-topic:
My two cents about "Godzilla": I thought it was an OK movie for a "special effects" film. Broderick was good in it, but his love interest, Maria Patillo (sp?) was very weird and goofy. The animation in the film was great, though Godzilla seemed more like a cross between a T Rex and an Alien than the Godzilla that we are used to.

This doesn't really relate to TLk, except for the Broderick connection.

I think it is a little disturbing that we're seeing so much SP stuff right now. Is it even selling well? It seems Disney is getting too confident these days. I wonder if a lot of SP stuff ends up in Clearance sections of stores.


Aug 1 - 14:28

Laurie

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I was just thinking, we're not really sure where the "Outlands" are in SP, right? Maybe they are like that area Timon and Pumbaa were in when Simba met them. Just a thought.
Dara, on the movie Godzilla, I never saw it, but just thought you'd like to know it's been bashed to pieces here as one of the worst and stupidest movies of all time from everywhere I've heard.


Aug 1 - 14:09

Christian

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E-mail: kiara@lionking.rog

That's really interesting about TLK 3. 2004? That's a long ways away but its better than getting nothing. And I'll still only be 34 years old then.


KH#1


Aug 1 - 13:53

Kiara futre queen

Location: the pride lands
E-mail: Kiara403@aol.com

okay my Aunt works for the disney store and she said that she had a little info on The Lion King 3 she said that it will be coming out in 2004 and that it will be called Kovu's first Winter and Simba and Nala both will die Kovu and Kiara will be having two cubs a girl and a boy thats all she told me!


Aug 1 - 13:14

Dara

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ignore pooh-lover, just ignore him/her. Don't ya see? He/she likes getting reactions from us!
Man! Be wiser!

Kasi, we have the Animaniac cartoons here, but I never saw that episode (not yet at least), but I did saw another parody of animaniacs which contains the scene of the gorge. You heard the same scary music like in TLK when vieuwing the gorge and then the camera changes vieuw to the Warner Brothers and Dot. In my opinion they could be the 3 hyena's there, but I'm not all too sure... Anyways, I like your song!

See, Be Prepared is one of my favorites of TLK! But know I really like the songs of TLKoB: Shadowland, Madness of King Scar, Endless night and most of all.... He lives in you (by Rafiki)!!

My favorite scene of TLK is the part were Simba, Nala and Zazu are in the Elephant Graveyard meeting the hyena's! Hilarious!!
So, Shenzi and Banzai are my favorite characters!
Scar's also very great! My idea Swyft, bad guys are sooooooooooooo much cooler than the star(s)
of the movie!! I always symphatize with villains, can't help it....

Some different topic... how's the movie "Godzilla"? There's lot of promotion stuff here but nothing that tells what's all about! Is it a good movie??

Lioness, if your modem got "fried" you probably didn't receive my mail about the pic of the little hyena's... you can send it now, it seems to be no problem my dad told me so. Thanks!!


Bye all!!!!!!!

Dara


Aug 1 - 11:12

Raksha
Seeonee Wolf Pack
Location: Seeonee River, India
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Is there still confusion as to who voices young/adult/singing Kiara? I haven't seen anything about it in a while...Just thought I'd say I saw Lacey Chabert on Leno a few nights ago, and she sounded a lot like young Kiara to me.
Also, has anyone seen a pic of Vitani? I keep hearing about her, but I haven't seen her
~Raksha
Fatshe leso lea halalela


Aug 1 - 10:48

Blue Lion

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Here's the exact words on the back of the box:

"as a dark storm brews over the Savannah, the mystical Rafiki communicates with the spirit of Mufasa. We learn that after becoming king, Simba exiled all lions loyal to Scar to the desolate outlands. A dangerous rift has developed between Simba's pride and these Outlander, led by Scar's murderous widow Zira. Rafiki learns that only one lion can heal this wound- Simba's newborn daughter Kiara...
Following her own heart, Kiara runs away from Pride Rock to join Kovu in the wild, hoping to find a place far away where they can be together. At night Kiara is visited by the Spirit of Mufasa, who reminds Kiara of her obligation to her pride and her role in the Circle of Life. Kiara convinces Kovu that they must return to Pride Rock. Their love is the only chance to stop the destructive war."

So I guess there's a war and all too. Sorry it ook me so long to post, I just checked the mill now:)\

Blue Lion
"Second born, second place!"


Aug 1 - 10:45

JENNA

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duck, finally a difference, I'll be 13 on August 27th!!!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok, that's all. I get to go shopping for my birthday. But school starts on the 21st :(


Aug 1 - 10:19

Kiara

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E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Lioness, in the Mulan sing a long tape, there is new croc and Kovu footage. It shows Kiara walking on the alligators snout but she thinks its a rock and it starts to open its mouth to tak a big bite of her and Kovu starts freaking out and then they start running. No there is no new Nuka or Vitani footage,unfortunatly there is NO footage of them :(


PS If anyone has the log scene pic of adolecent Simba, PLEASE E MAIL IT TO ME ASAP!! THANX


Aug 1 - 10:06

Lioness

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Can anybody make an Mpeg or Quicktime verson of the We Are One song on the Mulan Sing-Along tape? And maybe some screen grabs and animated gifs? I'd really like to see them, but I dont have a website. I heard Kiara's verse (from Kiara-holic #1's site) and it sounds pretty good.
Are there any other new scenes of Kovu? Any of Vitani ar Nuka?


Aug 1 - 09:00

Ducky

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jenna, this is weird, i just turned 16 this june. anyway if anyone else sees those SP figurines PLEASE!!!!!! tell me where you got them!!!! thank youÜ


Aug 1 - 08:00

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Outlands (with kovy)
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

IF ANYONE HAS IT, PLEASE E MAIL ME THAT PIC OF ADOLECSCENT SIMBA IN THE LOG SCENE!!! Thanx and I appreciate it


Aug 1 - 06:27

Panthera Leo

Location: Norway
E-mail: pleo83@hotmail.com

Hey everybody! Boy, I've been gone for 1 1/2 weeks and this place is... stuffed! I read most of the rumors, though.

I see that Pooh Lover is back. I have to agree with KrazyKat and other people... I'm getting really sick of this! Now, I have a reall wierd feeling about all this stuff...
I read some of the old rumors, and found out this pooh thing started because someone said they was sick of 'cute little Pooh' and everybody who loved him. As for Pooh Lover... Don't you guys think it's REALLY wierd that Pooh Lover suddently showed up after we began this Hate-Pooh thing? And if this person hates TLK so much and like Pooh so much... What the heck (sorry BT) was he/she doing here in the first place??? Do you think Pooh Lover thought : "Hey, I've got nothing to do today. I think I'll just surf on the net and see if I can find some TLK-lovers that hates Pooh so I can bug with them!" I don't think so... It's just unrealistic.
Maybe Pooh-Lover really is both a Pooh-lover AND a TLK-lover, or a TLK-lover who wants to make some mess? I'm not saying that any of YOU did it, just... a thought. Please, just ignore him or her, then he'll probably stop.

Anyway....

Someonwe asked about favourite TLK-characters, scenes and songs. Well, that's a tuff one... I love 'em all! ;-)
But if I had to choose... Simba (both adult and cub, I don't look at him as two different chars ;> ) has to be #1 for me.
As for #2... I'm not sure if I like Timon or Ed best. ;-) Timon's wierd comments and the 'Hula scene.' is just so funny, but I LOVE Ed's crazy laughter. :-) I guess they have to share the 2nd place.

My favourite scenes... oh, I have many, but four of them rule:
-The Circle of Life.
-Simba sees Mufasa in the clouds. (Many seems to like this one.) :-)
-Simba takes back the Throne.
-The Hula Scene. ;-)

My favourite songs... that's really hard, I haven't heard the Rythm (How do I spell that?) of Pride Lands or the TLKoB songs :-P they're hard to get in Norway, but I think I'll order them from the net soon. But of the songs from TLK, my 2 fav.s are:
Circle of Life.
King of Pride Rock.

Well, that's all for now folks. See ya!

-Panthera.


Aug 1 - 06:05

Amphriss

Location: Boston, MA
E-mail: Amphriss@AOL.com

Hello all--

Disney Store (Fanieul Hal loc.) update:

Kovu on a plastic tumbler (kid's)
Kiara, Pumba beanie magnets (out of kovu :()
Simba, nala (cubs) mini beanie magnets (ugly compared to the SP ones)
Pumba kid's costume (parachute material)
Kovu and Kiara plastic puffy notebooks(for little kids)
Beanie cub simba keychain
ALSO
The coloring/sticker set previously mentioned
that has Kovu in the wrong colors!!!!

DS catalog has adult nightshirt of TLK --- Mostly Pumbaa and Timon---Simba on the back???

A cute little kid's nala cub "purse" (more like a stuffed animal with handles!!)

Don't fret Pride Members! Some Haiku to ward off you-know-who....

Umber shadow stalks
Hundred Acre's nightmare comes
Kovu is hungry.

Christopher Robin
Ponders the torn-eared kitty
"Come closer" she purrs

In honeypot sticks
Pooh-Bear's head, Kiara helps
Bite it off quickly

Pooh frets over one
Woozle he heard, Mufasa
smirks, "He lives in you..."

Rabbit tends Garden
Pumbaa ate too much too fast
Free pesticide spray.

Disney Store: Pooh rests
on lower shelves and cubbys
Simba's Pride......Look up!!!!


Hope ya like!!!

'AMPH


Jul 31 - 19:26

jenna

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ducky, this is sooo weird!!! How old are you anyway?


Jul 31 - 18:50

Snowy

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Just to throw into the mix:

--The Disney Young Musicians Symphony Orchestra airs tomorrow (Saturday) and for an add for it they were playing CoL, so there may be more TLK.

--Black Cauldron & Meet the Deedles come out on video Tuesday, so eyes peeled everyone for SP previews!

--I was sort of wondering, about that TLK 6 New Adventures book thing, if they are hard to find & such, could an owner scan it and make it available to the rest of us on a web site. Anyone that owns The Brightest Star that could do the same please do, I've looked everywhere for that book & my parents won't let me order stuff over the net!

--Did anyone notice the clip art type pics in the Disney Catalogue of Kiara and Kovu? They're cute.

Well, that's all for now. Bye.


Jul 31 - 18:48

Krazy Kat

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Ehh..Kiara, just to let you know, I wasn't talking about THAT one, any idiot could tell you that was Mufasa on Pride Rock- there's a new Adult Simba ceramic figurine w/ the other SP ones. (Nala looks GREAT, i must say once again, bravo Disney) I bought Kovu btu now that i look at it, they could've made his little hair tuft a little bigger. But cute, nonetheless. ;-)

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 31 - 18:22

Kiara

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PS I was also wondering why Nuka wasn't on that frame.

PPS On a more important scale, WHAT WILL WE TALK ABOUT AFTER SP COMES OUT AND WHAT NEXT? A TRILOGY???????????????????? :)


Jul 31 - 17:58

Kiara

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hey Krazy Kat, the ceramic figurine of Adult simba on Pride Rock IS Mufasa, just so u know. I wish there were more news. As of tomorrow, 1 MORE DAY UNTILL THAT DARN MOUSEWORKS SP BOOK COMES OUT!! :P I hope that they have something because I am not wasting 20 minutes looking for something that is maybe coming out in September! On a different note, when i went to the DS today, I saw that frame and I saw Vitani giving Kovu that sly smile. I was wondering if she isn't giving Kovu that smile, but she is looking at someone on the left and not him. She is probably looking at Pumbaa and Timon and hatching an evil plan to eat them once she learns how to hunt HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHaaaaaa!(trademark evil laugh)....


Jul 31 - 17:55

Krazy Kat
The Kraziest of all The Kats
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E-mail: Krzykatmer@aol.com

Hello all,

I just visited my local Disney Store to find that ::gasp::: they had the ceramic figurines! Kovu was a cutie and I couldn't resist him for just six bucks. I was about o buy Simba, being the Adult-Simba holic that I am, but I noticed he looked a bit too much like Mufasa. It's hard to find good Adult Simba products nowadays..anyway, Nala was in very good condition and I almost bought her but I think my mom was getting ticked..I'll get her next time. ;-) I didn't get Kiara because she was kind of discolored. The pink on her nose went too far on her face and she had this tannish beige muzzle...weird. But her position was cute. Timon and Pumbaa were back in good form. =)

I Want a Vitani figurine!!

Well, Lil' Kovy's sitting here with my ceramic Tramp, hopefully soon followed by Nala and Vitani one day. (I know Tramp doesnt fit in with them too well but I love them all the same, so..)

Still no evidence of plushies. =P I didn't get to stay long enuff to look for the snow globe (Darn mom! I told her to go to Eddie Bauer!)

And can we Please just DROP THIS POOH BUSINESS??!! It's getting awfully old and frankly I'm sick of hearing it. Ppl who like TLK stay TLKers and ppl who like Pooh stay..uhh..what would you call them? Poohers? no..Pooh-a-holics? That sounds a bit better, yes. Can't we all just get along!! ::sobs::

:::quickly returns to normal:::
Aaanyway,
I've been trying to find some info on Vitani and Nuka (Looking up Andy Dick and Jennifer LIen sites) But they were poorly updated..here's a quote from one on Jenn... "It is said she just finished voicing for a lioness. I think her name's Bintani and she's with Scar.." What?!

Well that's all for now. =)

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 31 - 17:14

Ducky

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jenna, that thing about apu was a big surprize to me!!!! i LOVE the simpson!!! i aslo like south park and daria! ok, whoever saw the SP figurines, were the original characters "simba, timon, pumbaa" that were originally figurines in TLK, are they the same exact ones as the sp pnes or are they different cause i collect disney figurines but i dont wanna pay for something i already have


Jul 31 - 16:59

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@lionking.org

Sorry, I don't know how I did it?


Jul 31 - 16:43

Lioness
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Hi everyone!!! Sorry I havent written in so long, but our modem got fried and we just now got a new one.
Man this place is packed!
Well, nothin much here but I finally got the SP frame and I want to get the Snow Globe (it too plays Upendi) Whats this I hear about a figurine set? Sounds really cool! (cant wait till the Disney Store gets in more stuff)
Well, just letting you all know I'm still here :)
Hakuna Matata!!!


Jul 31 - 16:38

KiaraRose

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So Cam Clarke is doing the singing voice of Simba? What happened to reports of Matthew Broderick being on Entertainment Tonight singing in the recording studio for SP? I bet this must really frustrate this Tony-winner if he truly was upset at Disney for not letting him sing the 1st time.
Being the TLK fanatic that I am, I taped the advertisements for the May 10 SP preview. I kept hoping something different would come [besides the usual 3 sec]. Well, I watched them recently and I noticed something:
the ads for TLK's airing change from "The Most Popular Film of All-Time" to "The Most Popular Animated Film of All-Time." I thought the former was a bit pretentious considering the success of Star Wars, for example. This was until I found out it was still the Best-Selling Video despite the rerelease of the Star Wars movies. I have to say that I am a bit scared of Titanic. The movie has already knocked TLK out of the Top 5 in two lists [Domestic Gross and Soundtrack Sales]. Sure, I'm a fan [if you haven't guessed by my name], but i saw TLK in the theaters more. I'll buy Titanic [despite KH#1's plea] because I figure my one tape won't make a difference. But if Titanic beats TLK by only one unit, then I might consider a bullet to the head.
Here's some more TLK trivia: I heard Armageddon has the highest opening weekend for a "live-action" Disney movie at $35 [or so] mil. That means that TLK's $40.9 mil is still the champ, er, king.


Jul 31 - 16:33

Pooh

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Watch it or I'll get Enraged Gopher after you.


Jul 31 - 16:27

Christian

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E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

There's a link to KidSimba's Pridelands in the links section of my site. He has about 100 megs of stuff there. He might have a screen grab of the teenage Simba there as someone was saying a couple posts ago. We used to e-mail each other a lot and he would post to the rumor mill from time to time but I haven't heard much from him lately.


Kiara-holic #1


Jul 31 - 16:21

jenna

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E-mail: jenna591@hotmail.com

ducky, the guatamalan guy's name is Hank Azaria, the guy who does the voice of Apu on the Simpson's.!! just thought i 'd say that. What other Tv shows do ya'll here watch? I like SouthPark and Daria. reply's?


Jul 31 - 16:18

Outsider

Location: Banished
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Oh, great!!

JFT's last message somehow turned every other message into italics... :(


Jul 31 - 15:51

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@LionKing.ORG

I'm sorry, I just rembered. A friend of mine sent me some screengrabs of Simba on the log as a teenager. I believe it was a friend of mine that calls himsel KidSimba, I hang out in the Lion King Chat almost nightly now. If you want some <I got 4 of them> send me a letter via E-mail.

On a different topic, The info blue lion gave us, scarry man. Sounds verry simular to my fic. <shakes in fear for he has still not seen the movie and his fic is verry close to what little we know, some on purpose most not>


Jul 31 - 15:39

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

My favorite TLK characters would have to be Shenzi
and Scar. Why is it that the bad guys in a cartoon or movie are always so much cooler than the star or stars?


Jul 31 - 15:20

Kiara

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What does the back of the gift box of figurines say word for word? And what does it cost (I hope no more than $10)? personally, I think that there is a war becuse Kiara and Kovu run away cause Zira doesn't have anyone to undo Simba's reign for her, and they r blaming each other for "What did your son do with my daughter?" and "What did your daughter do with my son?" type of thing. Or maybe bottled up anger just couldn't take the pressure and the bottle just fizzed.....
I also wish that we knew about the three other songs.....


Jul 31 - 14:24

Christian

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E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Okay, my last two wisdom teeth are out. I like "This Land" and CYFTLT and I like the scene where cub Nala beats Simba at wrestling twice and says, "Pinned ya again!"


Kiara-holic #1


Kiara's Home Page


Jul 31 - 14:17

Stacy

Location: Tsavo,Africa
E-mail: Nala858585@aol.com

OOps! i almost forgot-my favorite scenes are:
1.Be Prepared
2.Simba sees Mufasa's ghost
3.Simba takes his place as king
my favorite characters:
Nala,Scar (if i could pick one from SP, it'd DEFINATELY be Kovu-he looks just like a little Scar!)
Favorite songs:
Shadowlands
This Land
Busa
Be Prepared
Lea Halalela

HaKuNa MaTaTa,
Stacy


Jul 31 - 14:02

Stacy

Location: Tsavo,Africa
E-mail: Nala858585@aol.com

Ok,heres the new info i have today:
on the back of a SP figure giftset,the listing of the plot says that Rafiki contacts the spirit of Mufasa and learns that Kiara is the only lion that can stop the war between the Outlander and Simba's Pride.Kiara,learning from her father,not to go to the Outlands,ventures off and meets Kovu.
then kiara and kovu run off to some far off place.
one night,Kiara is visited by Mufasa's ghost and learns her place in the pride;Kiara and Kovu's love is the only thing that can stop the war.
anyways,the figure set includes: a Simba/Nala figure,a Pumbaa, a Timon, a Zazu, a Kiara,and a Kovu. Also at the Disney Store was two different Toddler sets(-one comes with Kovu and Timon&Pumbaa,one comes with Kiara and Simba),a few art sets,and some of those "magic washcloths"that expand in water.
HaKuNa MaTaTa,
Stacy
P.s. Poohlover needs to get a life...TLK is WAY better than Pooh!!!(no animated movie has yet surpassed the record set by TLK!!)


Jul 31 - 13:50

Jenna

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All this stuff i'm hearing sortta reminds me of what i wrote...or at least my friend says it does. Only difference is mine is more, 'mature'..or whatever is a good word. Weird.


Jul 31 - 12:41

uhhhhh

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hey you guys, want to know a way to possibly get rid of pooh-lover? JUST IGNORE HIM (or her) He just wants attention


Jul 31 - 12:29

Kasi

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Here is a song i made up to the tune of Be Prepared.Some of the lines are the same as the real song.I call it "Be Prepared(For TLK2)"
*=Scar's lines,#=hyena's lines,+Shenzi's lines, ~=Banzi's lines|

*I know that you've got lots of tension
Along your furry backsides
But odd as you are pay atention!
My words are 'bout Simba's Pride

It's clear from your vacant expresions
That you have not heard
Were talkin' fans and merchandiece
You cant be caut in underwares!

Be prepared fro the roll of a life time
Prepare for really good news
A brand new movie
Just might star me
+And when do we feature?
*Just listen to teacher

I know it sounds weird
But you'll be rewarded
When at last we are givin our dues
And fans loyaly served
Be Prepared!

(speaking)
~Yea!Uh,prepared for what?
*A new movie!
~Toy Story2?
*No fool, The Lion King 2.
+Great Idia, a new Lion King!New movie new movie la la la la la la!
*Idiots!Their will be no new mov-oh,yes their will.Stick with me and you'll never go broke again!
#New Lion King!New Lion King,king king king!
(Singing)
#It's great that we'll soon be acting
with a guy who'll be all-time adord
*Quid pro quo,your expected
to be good actors of course
The future is smothered in prizes
And though I'm the main actor-ee
The point that i must emphisize is
You wont get a part without me!

So prepare for the movie of the century
#ooooooh!
*Prepare for the murkiest plot
#ooooooh.la la la
*Wonderouse acting
#Well have fans
*Grulling rehersing
#lots of fans
*Decades of aproval
#we repeat
*Is simply why we will
#endles fans!
*Be stars undisputed
#Aaaaaaaaaaaa......
*Respected saluted
#.....aaaaaaaaaa.....
*And seen for the wonders we are
#..aaaaaaah!
*Yes, my dreems and talents are bared
#Oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-
*Be Prepared!!!!
#Yes, our dreems and talents are bared-
Be prepared!


Jul 31 - 12:13

uhhh

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pooh-lover, I think you need to take a dump.....


Jul 31 - 11:55

Kasi
My job is to turn 13 yrs old today.
Location: Somewhere on Earth..........
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Did anybody see this one episode of Animaniacs where they make a parody of TLK?That was kind of funny when Yakko was holding up a tiger cub from a high point on this huge rock and the tigger kitten slips and fals then Yakko says "I thought cats always landed on their feet!". I feel sorry for the poor kitten.....


Jul 31 - 11:34

Ducky

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OOPS! i forgot my other favorite scene!!! i like the part when zazu is in scars cave and he sings all those songs, i think its funny!!!! I have anouther pole for everyone to take, whats everyones favorite song? either from the movie, Rhythm of the pridelands, or the broadway show??? mine are Warthog Rhapsidy, The MOrning Report, The Madness of king scar, and Endless night.


Jul 31 - 11:28

Kasi

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Pooh,this is a LION KING page,not a Pooh bear page.Please go find a pooh bear page.The Lion King is not for 2 year olds.The Lion King is loved by people of all ages.If you have a problem with that oh well.Please dont yell at us because we like TLK,ok?If you dont like TLK why do you come here then?Please dont have a hissy fit at me because even tough I am trying to be nice right now I can easly become mean and you dont want to see me get mean.


Jul 31 - 11:27

Ducky

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My favorite scenes in TLK are when timon does the hula adn when timon and pumbaa sing "the lion sleeps tonight" i like to hear Nathan Lanes voice:)


Jul 31 - 11:23

Christian

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E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Blue Lion,


Could you post the exact wording of the SP story from the back of your figurine set? I think everyone here would be interested.


KH#1


Jul 31 - 11:21

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland, USA
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I read somewhere that Upendi means love.
I said earlyer that it might be SP's version of CYFTLTN. I ment that it was another love song not a rewrite of CYFTLTN. I hope I also did not fuel the confusion.

My favorite charictor is Scar, it's so hard to find a good villian, and one you can feel sorry for at that ! I can't pick a favorite scean I love so many!

Just a few thoughts :)


Jul 31 - 11:15

Kiara
Future Queen
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Hey Pooh, didn't I tell you never to show your face here again?? GET OUT AND NEVER RETURN AS LONG AS YOU LOVE POOH AND HIS FRIENDS! GET OUT AND DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT COMING IN HERE AND POSTING AGAIN!!


Jul 31 - 11:13

Christian

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E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

I think Kiara and Kovu will run away as cubs and grow up, sort of like their own Hakuna Matata thing. I get to leave soon to get my last two wisdom teeth out. Just thought I'd throw in a little personal info.


KH#1


Jul 31 - 11:13

Pooh

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I hate messages, and I hate everyone of you.


Jul 31 - 11:04

Kiara

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PS I forgot to add that my favorite scene is the log scene cause Simba with the small mane is kinda cute and could someone send me a screen grab of that part? and my other fave scene is when Rafiki raises Kiara for all to see......


Jul 31 - 10:51

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Lands
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Blue Lion, about your opinion about Kiara and Kovue running off and that's when Upendi is played, I was wondering whether they run off as cubs and grow up in the jungle like Simba did, or did they run off as adults or adolescents? I was wondering becuse on the music box cover they have a picture of Kiara and Kovu as cubs in a jungle playing together so DID THEY RUN AWAY AS CUBS OR ADOLECENTS??????? And I know they came back as adults because of that roar thing with the scaring away the birds scene. I went to the Disney store today and I saw the figurines but they were being sold separatley. Kovu looks kinda weird and really doesn't look like Scar at all and Kiara's snout or muzzle or whatever you call it is unusually dark... and I saw the frame, snowglobe, and plushies, but no offense to the DS, but they r kind of exspensive and it would take me about a month to earn enough to buy them both on my allowance (but I am going to get a job when im 15 which is very very close to my age.) And I picked up a copy of the Disney store catalog and there is so many pooh items! YUCK WITH POOH!! and there isn't much TLK and nearly nothing of SP merchandise in the catalog and store :(


Jul 31 - 10:48

Laurie

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I have not yet seen the Kovu plush at the DS. Is it with the main SP display or did you guys have to hunt around for it? Krazy Kat, my favorite TLK characters are probably Timon and adult Simba. Since we have almost no new news, why don't we take another poll with the character one- what's your favorite scene from TLK? I have a billion but probably my favorite is when Simba sees his father in the clouds, and also Circle of Life.


Jul 31 - 09:24

Dara
Just being naughty......
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Jenna, not all mature fan-fics are tastfully written, but then again... that's a personal taste. The American people are quickly shocked by something that contains adult stuff.
But I can tell ya some of them are very well written with a lot of humor in it.
I would describe most of them as "slightly naughty" but it's nothing more then the little chat I have at lunch time with my collegues at work... Aw man! Some girls at my work are naughty!
They know how to make ya blush! The stories are nothing compared to THEM! o.k. I'll shut up!

"Rites of Passage" is very tastfull and full of humor. And "A matter of Pride" is well written.
Like Ryan says: one of the best fan fics ever written.

Shenzi, I like the CYFTLT of TLKoB better then the origional one in TLK! I love the instrumental part in it!!!

Bye!!!!!

Dara


Jul 31 - 09:18

Blue Lion

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Ok.. first I have to say I'm sorry I contributed to the new IJCWtBK rumor... I only meant Upendi might be along the same lines of it.. the idea of Kiara's vision of the future.. sorry about the mix up :)

But I do have a new theory on what it might be... I just bought the figures from the Disney store and that back of the box says Kiara and Kovu run off together to live alond 'in the wild' as it said (weren't they ALREADY in the wild???? oh well..) I remember someone posting (forgot who) that Upendi means joy?? (did I get that post right?) Well, maybe Upendi is about Kovu and Kiara's new life together?just a thought.

Blue Lion
"Second born, second place!"


Jul 31 - 09:17

Steele
Big blue-eyed husky
Location: Snow covered mountains
E-mail: Flare gun

Jenna,
Ryan's adult story collection would be open to personal taste and debate, that is more than likely why you need to ask for them. Having been around the TLK community for quite some time I have seen all the stories. Some of them are very well written, but just contain mature content. There are some however that contain material that goes way beyond my personal taste, getting even into the realm of bestiality. But every reader has different tastes and I do not like censorship. The other thing is that they are only fantasy stories, not reality. So as far as how "bad" some of them are...that's up to personal opinion. I hope this answers your question enough. :)


Jul 31 - 07:00

Ducky

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jenna, i love the guatamahala guy! but i dont know his real name:( i dont know if its comming to HBO, it may, i have no clue though!


Jul 31 - 06:24

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

If Upendi is not an SP version of CUFLTLT, or Kiara's version of IJCWTBK,(hers might have been I Just Can't Wait not to be Queen ;) ) then what is it? Does it even involve Kiara or Kovu or them together? Maybe its a song adult kiara sings when she returns to the Pridelands with Kovu,and it is to reassure themselves like that song in Mulan or maybe she sings that as a cub when she doesn't want to be queen but it's the same idea............

PS did you like my story? I mean Vulture's and my story? :)


Jul 31 - 05:57

jenna

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ducky, i love it to!!!! I thought he was the funniest! Do you know f it'll be coming on HBO anytime soon? Do you know the name of the guatamalen dude? His real name? Ok, this is totally off topic.




now, for something not about two gay guys!!!


I went to ryan's site and it said some fan-fic's were for mature audiences...has anyone read them? I wanna know if he's writing that som mom's won't yell at him. or if they are like...um...'bad'. thanks.


Jul 31 - 00:08

Outsider

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Thanks for the info, KH!


Jul 30 - 21:24

Ducky

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jenna, nathan lane was the guy in the birdcage! the one that dressed like a girl and talked like i girl, i love that movie!!!!


Jul 30 - 21:10

The Ghost of Scar

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Ok then, what about the new song "Circle of Death"?


Jul 30 - 20:48

KH#1

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Sorry, there is NO new version of CYFTLT on SP. It was just a misunderstanding that arose. I have this sinking feeling that this rumor is going to take on a life of its own.


Jul 30 - 20:37

Outsider

Location: Banished
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Hey folks... I have two questions:

1. Is there really a new version of CYFTLT in SP?
2. If so, where can I download it?

Thanks!


Jul 30 - 20:15

Mouse

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Hi everyone! I don't have much to say, just these two things: first for Krazy Kat my favorit TLK character is Scar, secondly I was watching this Guiness book of World Records show and it said that TLK has the record for the most video copies sold ever! I knew it was Disneys best seller of all time but I didn't know it was the best selling video of all time, cool.


Jul 30 - 19:37

Kasi

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I was watching the SP trailor again and in the part betwen the parts where it says "THE cIRCLE oF lIFE" and "Continues" their is a little black blob floating in the air and I dont think it was Zazu.
I wonder what it is.
I wonder if disneys web site will have some downloadable games from SP....
When TLK cane out i didnt have internet acess so i want to know if their were any good TLK downloads on Disney's site(sounds,games,blah blah blah)


Jul 30 - 19:27

jenna

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wasn't nathan lane the guy in 'the birdcage'? The really "obvious" one who was hilariouis?


Jul 30 - 19:11

Ducky

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Shenzi:

Cheech and CHong had a tv show(i think) back in the 70's. they were hippy pot heads! they have alot of movies and they're all histarical! thats one reason why i like banzai so much!


Jul 30 - 18:59

Kiara and Vulture

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One evening a few days before Kiara was born, Simba was strolling through his kingdom when he spotted something he only had seen once in his life: a human. He was outraged that any human should enter the Pridelands,and he was feeling quite bloated after a meal of wildebeest and Pooh bear . He came right up to the human, and asked: "What are you doing here, you foolish and naive boy??????!!
"I'm sorry, lion-"
"Call me King Simba, didin't your mother ever teach you manners?"
"King Simba, I am in a worldwide search for my lost friend Pooh Bear and Piglet-"
"I ATE THEM,MANCUB! THEY WERE BRINGING ABOUT A DISTURBANCE IN MY KINGDOM OF TLK, and it is very dangerous for my reputation with the Boss Mr. Disney, so I just purely illiminated them."
Christopher Robin began to cry. "But what about my other friends?"
"I had to do away with them too. I put Owl in the Birdie Boiler with the help of the Hyenas- that was the only Birdie Boiler episode Zazu ever enjoyed, him being the only main target for the hyenas until now. Now get out of my kingdom or I will throw you to the lionesses."
Christopher Robin followed Simba back to Pride Rock, and then the next day, his daughter was born. Seeing that Christopher Robin might harm the cub so he could be king without being a lion, Simba banished him to the Outlands where Zira adopted him and he magically turned into a newborn lion cub that looked like a baby Scar...


This story was created by KIARA and VULTURE.
THEY HOPE THAT YOU ENJOYED THIS STORY. VULTURE MADE UP THE IDEA FOR A STORY LIKE THIS AND KIARA WROTE IT WITH HELP FROM VULTURE


Jul 30 - 17:53

shenzi

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if anyones wondering the suz or suzi Q is what my aunts call me. i don't mind even though my name is not suzie or susanne. its a better nick name than the one my cousins used to call me when i was a kid. bye !


Jul 30 - 17:30

shenzi (aka The Suz ).

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me again. Ducky, what is Cheech and Chong. it sounds familiar. Christian and Dara, isn't the tlkob version of cyftlt better than the movie version ?


Jul 30 - 17:28

shenzi

Location: L I, Ny
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i doubt that there will be an sp novel. when tlk came out i picked up a thin paperback book about the movie. it was about 75 pages long and if you were 10 you could call it a novel. i was dissapointed. thats why i loved the chronicals of the pridelands. THAT was a REAL novel. i've never seen a novel based on tlkob but i'll look tommorow when i go shopping. Kiara, someone not to long ago suggested that nuka could be your betrothed. it would be interesting ya know. is nuka in the magoo trailor ? a while back some one said he was but i didn't notice him. vulture, as a fellow scavenger and pooh hater i'm with ya !Jft, thanx so much for your sympathies. i feel better now. Krazy Kat, my favorite tlk characters are shenzi and scar. whoopie goldberg is one of my favorite actresses and scar's voice sends chills running up my spine. also scar isn't one of those idiot villains like the guy in poco and frollo from the hunchback was disgusting. i hated him. Dara, i'm glad Banzai and i are your fav tlk characters. your right about men. some are disgusting, some are great . most of the guys in my school act like the guys that come to mc.donalds. all the good ones ( like my crush ) are taken. i hope the disney store has some new sp stuff. well, i'll find out soon enough. Hakuna Matata ! buy the armaggedon soundtrack its great ! watch out pooh lover this hyena's straving and i'll rip your beloved pooh to shreds, Busa Simba, Kiara, zira, kovu and everyone else !


Jul 30 - 17:23

KH#1 (again)

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I was just thinking that that scene w/ adult Kiara and Kovu where she roars and he looks at her a little nervously is probably right when they get back to the Pridelands but before anyone else knows they came back.


CMZ


Jul 30 - 16:58

Christian (KH#1)

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Umm . . . The Disney Store had a boxed set of SP figurines and a Toddler Playset neither of which I had ever seen before. Almost didn't bother even looking at them, but I did, and on the back of one there was some new SP info. Sorry if Dara and I inadvertently made everyone think there was a new CYFLT. We were referring to the Broadway version and didn't make that clear. I wouldn't mind if it was in there though.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Jul 30 - 16:56

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@lionking.org

I'm trying to finish my fan fic, but what I do have sounds verry simular to what is being posted here as to what SP will be like. Can I call a story? Or is it just luck? You tell me. Read my fic as it stands and let me know sometime. Hopefully it will be finished in a week or so. I only got 3 chapters to do and most of them are partly finsihed.

One thing nothing can destroy is our pride deepinside WE ARE ONE!


Jul 30 - 16:28

Ducky

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Krazy Kats, for your pole:

my favorites are Timon and Banzai. i love them for their characters, but it helped cause i LOVE nathan lane(he has one of the best voices!) and i love the Cheech and Chong moviesÜ


Jul 30 - 15:23

Vuture

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hey Kasi, I seriously doubt that they will use HLIU (He lives in you) for SP because there are only 5 new songs on the track and HLIU isn't new and it probably was used only for a promotion.


Jul 30 - 15:19

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Running away with Kovu to someplace
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Hey Christian, where did you get the SP info from at the Disney store? Is it a store display thing or something different? I'd like to know.
On a different note, I was wondering, if Upendi is not the SP version of CUFTLT, then what is it all about?? I wish there were lyrics........


Jul 30 - 14:11

Kasi
my job is to be weird
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Oh.I wonder if they will use the he lives in you song in the movie.....


Jul 30 - 13:52

Dara

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.... storm has gone... guess it's save enough to type just a small message before I go to bed.

Kasi, there's is NO new version of CYFTLT in SP!

I was talking about the Broadway version. I was at Christian's site and I signed his guestbook telling him I like the TLKoB CD. He asked me if I liked the new version of CYFTLT... so I answered him here, on the rumor mill. Sorry if I got ya confused.

Christian, I know what you ment about the negative male stereotypes... I didn't ment you or any other NORMAL male! And believe me, there are (thank God) enough normal males walking this earth! So Shenzi, there's still hope! Ha, ha!

Bye!!

Dara

*mmmm, I hope the thunderstorm doesn't come back tonight!* YAWN.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Jul 30 - 13:41

Kasi

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Upendi sounds like it will be a good song.Their is a new version of CUFTLT out?


Jul 30 - 12:16

Christian (KH#1)

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A new post on a new subject: Just got back from a trip to one of my 2-3 local Disney Stores and they had some new SP stuff. Toddler-oriented stuff but one had a run-down of SP on it with some new info. Wish I could remember it word for word, but the gist of it is: Rafiki communes with Mufasa's spirit; the Outlanders are banished; Kiara and Kovu fall in love and run away; Kiara communes with Mufasa's spirit who convinces her to go back to the Pride Lands and stop the family feud. When I saw Mufasa's spirit in the clouds briefly in the May 10 preview I thought it might have been because he was talking to Kiara; either that or correcting Simba again.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Dara, glad you like CYFTLT. Also, I try not to exemplify negative male stereotypes if you know what I mean.


Kasi/Golden Retriever: Did you hear "Upendi" yet? You don't need an MP3 player thingie to hear it from my site.


Kiara's Home Page with Comprehensive Sound Library

Jul 30 - 12:08

Arctus
BearPaw Productions
Location: Jax,FL
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org

Could someone quick tell me where I could find the recording of the SP version of CYFTLT? I spent a minimal amount of time looking for it and was unable to locate it, but I would very much like to hear it! Please e-mail me with the info or post it here for others who are as clueless as I am! :) Thanks, y'all...

Arctus


Jul 30 - 12:02

Dara

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Christian, I really love the new version of Can you feel the love tonight! It's even better than the origional one. I like the instrumental part in it.

I think Zazu has had it to be a babysitter!
You know what happend while he was babysitting in TLK... Maybe is out of Africa now.

mmm, is Lion King for 2 years old, Pooh Lover???
Go check the Chronicles of the Pride Lands (a written fan fic) and you know for sure you don't want your young children to read it!!! (but I think they are GREAT!!!)

And Pooh lover, you don't read very carefully!
Some Lion king lover pittied you and ask to write no more bad things about your beloved Pooh!!
And that's when we didn't do it anymore!!
So I ask you: FIRST READ AND THAN SAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY!!! and for now, shut up!!
Or maybe you like to stirr the emotions here?
The whole Pooh stuff is over... BYEEEEEEEE!!!!

Sorry Krazy Kat, I had to say this... By the way, my favorite characters are the hyena's. But I can't deside who I like more... Shenzi or Banzai.

EWWWWW!! Shenzi, men are disgusting!!! Well, not ALL of course!!! I don't want to offend someone!
I work in a printing-office. I'm a designer, so I don't have to work with that guys, but my office is opposite the presses. You can imagine the comments when you're wearing a not all too sexy shirt or something like that. They're already going wild when you wear something shorter then the jeans and shirts you normally wear!!! Just ignore them... those men are lame brains!!

Oh, the offer I gave ya is never to late... (about Pooh) since the emotions are yet highly stirred....

Kiara, if I KNEW about the book Mouse under Glass I would be pleased to answer ya, but I DON'T KNOW. I think that's the problem with the others too, they just don't know. Sorry.

That's it for now,

#You promised to be there,
whenever I needed you,
whenever I call your name,
You're not anywhere...#

Dara

p.s. Lioness, did ya read my e-mail yet?

AWWWW MAN! A thunderstorm... AGAIN! Do those storms ever go away??!! I hate them!!!! I think I need a psychiatrist for this stupid fobia!!!
I hate it when I have to leave my computer while reading or writing the Rumor Mill!! Remember, I'm at the attic, I'm too afraid to stay! Dang!


Jul 30 - 11:11

Kiara
Future Queen
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For once, Vulture, I agree with you: Pooh on Pooh Bear! On a different note, I'm sorry for the repeatedly asked questions about the book. I'm very impatient here and all I want is to know the whole story. My fave TLK character is Simba #2 (log scene) and Timon. Can anyone send me a screen grab of Simba #2 cause I think he looks cute with that partial mane


Jul 30 - 10:53

ŃéWĹrtí§t

Location: Alpha Quadrant
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I'm back for another day just chatting on here, to answer the MP3 QUESTION below, MP3 is a sound file compressed with CD quality. You can search for them and find many websites that have a player and sound files for you to download.


Jul 30 - 10:51

GarciaTheGoldenRetrever/Kasi

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On alot of the Lion King/Simba's Pride pages they have MP3 files.What is a MP3?Is it a movie file or a sound file?Where can I download the thing to play those files?
The rest of this mesag isnt realy important.
Kasi is now officialy the name i will use in this rummor mill.


Jul 30 - 10:43

Krazy Kat
The Kraziest of all The Kats
Location: Here, Silly
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Hey all,
I'm just totally ignoring this Pooh stuff now...I'm getting really sick of it.

Um, I'm really bored with my life right now so I'm taking a little poll that's prolly been done a million times by now..."Who's your favorite TLK Character?" SP characters don't count because...well, it hasn't come out yet. Anyway, only 2 faves are permitted. No more than two votes per person- or cat- whichever you prefer yourself to be. Oh, and Adult Simba and cub Simba are two diff. characters according to this poll. Same goes for Nala.

Ok,
People you are just going to have to wait for the stupid book so don't get so worked up!! I'm really sick of reading these posts over and over and over and over and...well, you get the point. I'd like to see some OTHER conversation up instead of that...

Well that's just my two bits, gotta split.

The Kraziest of all the Kats,
Krazy Kat


Jul 30 - 10:24

Christian (KH#1)

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This is completely unrelated to my last post (in which I made a big HTML boo boo; sorry, Brian). Just wanted to mention that Lacey Chabert will be on Late Night with David Letterman tonight. Program those VCRs!


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Jul 30 - 09:34

Christian (KH#1)

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E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

In answer to the question posed by Garcia the Golden Retriever: "Upendi" can be downloaded at my site. Go to the Sounds section. There's a lot of other things there, too; every sound bite related to Kiara is there. I've provided a link. Click on the theater picture once you get there.


Kiara-holic #1


Kiara's Sahifa



P.S. Just today disney.com added the capability to pre-order Simba's Pride online. You still get the lithograph and puppet and all that, too.
Jul 30 - 08:42

Ducky

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someones resent post just reminded me of something. i was supposed to go to florida this july but we canculed cause of the fires. we reschedualed it for oct 6-some date!!! that mean its only going to be a few days before sp comes out:) ill be sure to keep my eye open when i go to disney to see if i can find some sp stuff or info or whatever


Jul 30 - 08:39

Vulture

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WHO"S WITH ME IN THE LION KING AGAINST POOH LOVERS CRUSADE!! WHO IS WITH ME????!?!?!?!?!?? WHOEVER IS WITH ME SPEAK YOUR PEACE WHEN YOU POST! OUR DESTINY IS TO AVENGE SCAR, SIMBA, MUFASA,SARABI,NALA,SARAFINA,KIARA,KOVU,NUKA,VITANI AND ZIRA FOR ALL THE MEAN THINGS POOH LOVER HAS SAID ABOUT THEM!!


Jul 30 - 07:45

Vulture

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AHAHHHAHAHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAA!!!!! Pooh lover is gone! Now I can diss pooh all I want! Im back! Hey Kiara, you'd better ditch that peace treaty cause Pooh ain't here no more. Long live Zira! DOWN WITH POOH BANISH POOH GENERALLY DO MEAN THINGS TO POOH! Let's make a little website that only TLK lovers can come into and to get in you need a password, adn whoever likes pooh or the angry pooh lover will be thrown into the site's birdie boiler and punted! I am feeling evil towards Pooh! BANISH POOH FROM THIS SITE! AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAAAAAAA!! (my trademark evil laugh)


Jul 30 - 07:41

GarciaTheGoldenRetrever/Kasi

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Where can Upendie be downloaded at?


Jul 30 - 07:11

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland, USA
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I am realy thrilled to hear that Kovu is proably going to be Scar's son! I never would thought Disney would have the guts to do that, guess I'll have to eat crow and give them some credit!

Here is the new question that spring from that info. How are they going to explain this to the supposidly impressionable kids and much more impotantly the over active watch dog groups. Can't wait to see the fur fly over this!

One more thing before I go
I was finally able to down load Upendi (joy). My Dad shelled out a big $10.00 for a modem and everything is now running wonderfuly. Any way I have a point here realy I do. I think Upendi is sounds like SP's version of CYFtLtN. I may be wrong but I think someone said awhile ago that Upendi means love or something close to it.

Just a few nuggets of joy :)


Jul 30 - 07:07

GarciaTheGoldenRetrever/Kasi

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I just checked B+N.com and Amizon(spelt wrong).com.Both say they will have the same book at the same price only they list that the book comes out in 2 diffrent monthes.I hope that B+N is corect and it comes out in August because i dont want to wait until October like Amizion says!


Jul 30 - 07:07

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Kiara - just an idea, but perhaps Simba as good as his word, an abolished bethrothal as he once said he would: "When I'm king, that'll be the first thing to go.". If so, Kiara may not be bethrothed to any lion at all.

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 30 - 07:04

GarciaTheGoldenRetrever/Kasi

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I was watching the movie trailor from the magoo tape and saw Adult Simba and Adult Kovu just walking to gether so my guse is that either Simba and Kovu becom friends or Simba relises that Kiara and Kovu love eachother and acepts that fact.


Jul 30 - 06:57

kese

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Kiara, if the guy at B&N told you Sept. that's what you should assume. It' far more likely that the info on the website is wrong than the database at the store is. Not to put a damper on you, but it seems as if you're going to have to be patient

On an unrelated note it seems that Kovu is Ziras son after all: quoted from promo material"Kiara romps in the pridelands with Kovu, Scar's handpicked successor as his villianous mother Zira looks on." It's already been established that Zira was Scar's mate and now that there is some proof that Zira is Kovu's mom, it does seem unlikely that Kovu and Scar are not related.


Jul 30 - 06:57

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland. USA
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Kiara and anyone else interested
DON'T TRUST DISNEY PUBLISHING DATES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not yelling just making this eye catching.
I ordered the TLKoB piano and vocal music book in March. I was told that it would be in by the end of April at the latest. Guess what it's almost August and no book yet! I was told that Disney is having some proablems with it's publishers, and not just with music books.

On a better note I am going to Florida the first week of August and big shock I am going to Disney!!!!!!!! I'll be sure to look for anything SP or TLK related.

Also I just ordered my new computer and I will be setting up a SP and/or TLK sight. I am also getting a scanner and will be putting my ton of TLK and SP drawings on the web !!!!!!

Just a few gems of joy :)


Jul 30 - 06:49

Lion Kub
Lion cub in King Simba's pride
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: don't have one yet

Hey everyone! I'm new to Rumor Mill (Vulture told me about it) I have been reading all of your posts and I have a question. When will a book come out for Simba's Pride? I'm looking for a novelization in paticular, but any book will do. and I don't care if it's out or not out and I'm pretty patient.


Jul 30 - 06:47

Kiara

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I was just wondering, if Kiara is the future queen, who is she betrothed to? Even though Kovu came on to the scene, he was from Scar's pride and certaily Simba would not let her marry a lion from his pride, but Kiara and Kovu fall in love anyway, but before they met, Simba probably arranged another lion cub to be her husband, who may not appear in the movie. Just my two cents for now so bye!

PS can someone please give me their opinion about what I asked in my last post?


Jul 30 - 06:42

Kiara

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Barnes and Noble is putting out a read a long for SP on August 1st or something like that. I need everyones opinion: Do you think I should wait untill the mouseworks book is out or should I buy the read a long? I don't care about the tape cassette, I WANT TO KNOW THE STORY!
so tell me your opinion and I will gladly take it into consideration
(Im not a very patient person if you haven't already noticed


Jul 30 - 05:49

Kiara
Future Queen
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Thanks everyone for answering my question. I'm glad to know about when the SP book is coming out, but when I went to Barnes and Noble, the guy behind the desk said that the SP book won't be printed and binded until September............ I think his computer is screwed up or incorrect........
Thanks so much,

Kiara


Jul 30 - 05:44

GarciaTheGoldenRetrever

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Hmmmmm.About Timon and Pumba being Kiara's baby sitter-they probably retired Zazu for some reason.
When I went to the world of Coca Cola's tour,in the rooms where you can drink all the solda you want they have a soda in the international section called "Simba".I forget which country it was from but it was good!
Theil probably release alot of SP books but at diffrent times.
When I went to the Disney store to get a few disney beanies,They had TONS of Kiara and at first I didnt find Kovu!The ONLY Kovu beanie I saw was at the checkout counter's display thingie so i imidiatly piked him up.He was sitting next to a Jewlry box or something that featured Kiara and Kovu.Now I need to find Nala and <3Simba<3.


Jul 30 - 04:28

uhhhh

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Well....Looks like that little pardoning for pooh is going to wash off after what that idiot pooh lover said......I think i'll just sit back and watch pooh get torn apart by simba in your stories...or something


Jul 29 - 22:24

DiscoKim

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Hi again!

I was wondering, has anyone here seen TLKoB? If you have could you please email me, because I'd like to ask a few questions about the show. If you could help thanks!


Jul 29 - 20:55

Amphriss

Location: Boston MA
E-mail: Amphriss@Aol.com

Zinou--
Busa means "rule" --- see my previous posting on "He Lives in you" (Rule with love, rule with peace, rule lion rule). I think "xolo" is peace....
Busa, Simba Busa Simba iyo!

Another weird tidbit, as previously posted... a familiar opening chant in "Circle of Life" also featured in "He Lives in you" means "Here is a lion and a Tiger" Again, previous post.

My next post will be fresher, I promise!


Jul 29 - 20:44

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Sorry, forgot one more thing:

--Someone asked a while back if the story as told in TLKoB (ie TLK w/all the new scenes) was every going to be made available to those who can't go and see the show; while at amazon.com I spotted a book called The Lion King--the Broadway Musical (or something along those lines); it was 122 pages, I think and the binding was unknown. A novelization of the story like what's done with movies? I don't know. It said that it was published July this year, but was not yet available. Just one more thing to keep an eye open for, I guess.

Bye.


Jul 29 - 20:41

Snowy

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Here are some random notes of interest:

--Kese, I'm not sure about amazon.com accuracy, after all, after looking around a bit, the Barnes and Noble site had SP books listed before amazon did. I also reserved a copy from a store (they'll call when it comes in) and I do believe they said soon.

--Just to let everyone know, according to the PrimeStar August viewing guide, the Disney Channel will be showing TLK Aug 15

--About Kiara's We Are One verse, it sounds to me as if it's in a different key than all of Simba's verses (and no not just because it's a different character singing); this further supports the idea of a reprise

Just food for thought. Gotta go. Bye.


Jul 29 - 20:36

Kese

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To everyone wondering about the SP book, here's some potentially bad news. Amazon.com lists the release date as Oct. and they're always pretty accurate. Sorry looks like everyone is going to have to be patient.


Jul 29 - 20:01

Ducky

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thanx for clearing that up sangoma(i hope i spelled that right, if not im sorry!), i wasnt sure if i should have trusted him, he was kinda dumb. ive seen him around the store before and hes not too bright! i feel bad for him!


Jul 29 - 20:00

kese

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Kiara: The Barnes and Nobles site says they will have the book in on the 2nd of August. Now, this doesn't mean it will be everywhere by that time(distribution varies from place to place.) But the website says the 2nd. "Publish" in this case does not mean printed, it means ready for the public.....


Jul 29 - 19:51

sangoma

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Somebody mentioned BORDERS bookstore. I happen to work at one.. the info the guy told you was correct, the borders computers show about 3 different childrens format books coming out in late september, october. I wish it was sooner, ahh well. Hope it helps you to know.


Jul 29 - 19:45

Ducky

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Pooh lover, its ok for you to like pooh, i respect that, but please dont make fun of us cause we like tlk, its not right. and you dont know where i live!!!

kiara, im sorry i wasnt much help. but i dont think many people know the release date, you probubly know more than most of us. i dont mean to be rude or mean or mean that in an offencinve(i need to get back to school and learn how to spell)
if it helps, does anyone know of the store "borders"? its a book store, i dont know if its very popular. anyway i went there today and asked if they were going to have an Sp book and when it was comming out. the person working there i dont think was very bright, but he looked threw the files of upcomming books and said they werent going to have them untill the end of september. i dont know if barnes and noble is the same cause they are a hell of alot more popular than borders and probubly get stuff earlier than borders. i hope that helped someone


Jul 29 - 19:33

Kiara

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THIS IS THE LAST TIME I ASK (maybe) ABOUT THAT BOOK THING!!!! WHEN IS THE MOUSEWORKS SP BOOK BIENG PUBLISHED (i mean printed and binded)AND WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE OUT ON THE SHELVES AT BARNES AND NOBLE???? I really don't like to keep repeating myself, but I really have to know so i can set my calandar. IF ANYONE HAS EXACT INFORMATION AND I DON'T MEAN OPINIONS, PLEASE TELL ME!!!


Jul 29 - 19:05

Timin

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I was thinking about the release of the SP book. wounld't Disney put the SP book on there site just like they have with the illastated books based on there animated films?


Jul 29 - 18:50

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@LionKing.org

I now what you mean shenzi, I work at Super K-Mart in the Lay-A-Way department. I get some really ticked people about our polacies. $3 lay fee, $7 cancelation and if they on't pay on it within 30 days we send it back. I got fired because of one lady who wanted me to do the impossable. So I symphodise with ya. I preordered SP and I asked for the fastest mail they got. I hope It will come real fast.


Jul 29 - 18:14

shenzi

Location: long island, new york
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woa ! i feel like i haven't been here in years. i just got a job at Mc. Donalds.i work sundays, mondays, and tuesdays and the rest of the week i'm usually not home. i know McDonalds may sound like a crappy job but i need money. especially now that the sp merchandise is comming out. last week i brought a cute kovu stuffed toy from the disney store. i hope they have nuka and vitani, zira and sarafina soon. i don't think disney ever made a sarafina toy. i wish i could find a scar stuffed animal for my growing collection. my rooms small so i gotta keep them on my bed. soon i'll have to sleep on the floor. oh well, thatz wut you get for being tlk obsessed. i doubt any of you care but the people that come into mc.donalds are creepy. this guy was stareing at me and i asked him if i could take his order. he said no and that he just wanted to stare at my beautiful blue eyes. some other guy i was serving coffe to told me he likes his coffe hot like his woman and then he winkled at me. he was about 60 years old. i'm 16. these people are creeps ! working at the register is hell. sorry, i just had to let it out. oh well, i'm makeing more money at Mc. Donalds then babysitting for my bratty cousin. she loves pooh and watches pooh tapes all the time. this is probably why i hate pooh. also she hits her brother and me, and her mom lets her get away with it. i'm haveing some awful summer. at least i have sp to look forward to. kese, what are the six new lion king books about anyway ? do they mention simba having a child. i was glancing through the messages and someone mentioned that thing about sex being written in the clouds in tlk. i read about the so-called scandal in the book Mouse under Glass which talks about disney's past animated films. it said that the sex thing could have been some animaters joke or it could have really been SEC, which are the initails for some computer thing involved in the makeing of tlk. dara, i know it may be a little late but i'd love to help you and beerit boil pooh in the birdie boiler.gotta go. hopefully i'll be back soon.p.s busa kiara, kovu and simba ! pooh lover, you need to grow up, why are you on a tlk site anyway ? down with mc.donalds ! is there really gonna be an sp novel ?


Jul 29 - 17:46

Nandi
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Hey all! Hey Kiara, nice little speech! i too will 4ever swear movie loyalty to TLK for all eternity. How about everyone else?? We r all lion king fans, so how about everyone else swear movie loyalty? Its a good idea and it will keep all the tlk and sp sites in circulation. I noticed that this place is becoming dead, i hope news comes out soon....... Well since things r kinda slow here i guess i must go for now i will check back in a few days so bye everyone hakuna matata
ps timon's and my kits say hi


Jul 29 - 17:29

Kiara

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Oh and I forgot to say that being TLK and SP fans is the best thing we can do with our lives, as far as movie wise. And pooh lover, never show your face here or I'll make you so rumbly in your tumbly..............


Jul 29 - 17:22

Kiara
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hey angry pooh lover, get out of this rumor mill and don't even come back to any TLK or SP site again!! Go do some pooh stuff. POOH IS THE ONE FOR BABIES! TLK WAS THE GREATEST DISNEY FILM EVER AND THE TRUTH HURTS THAT POOH ISN'T AS POPULAR!! THE REASON WHY WE MAKE WEBSITES ABOUT TLK AND SP IS BECAUSE WE ARE DEDIDCATED AND WILL BE FOREVER WILL BE!! You can't find many pooh sites can you? If there are still Pooh and TLK and SP lovers who love all 3 of these movies, please refrain from talking about Pooh cause the whole point of this rumor mill is about SP. So talk about anything TLK related but don't talk about Pooh! We should all learn a lesson about movie loyalty. If any of you even think about praising Pooh but dissing Simba and putting up mean posts about how Baby Kovu has fleas, maybe you dont belong here and you should go to a Pooh Bear Rumor Mill, and besides like I said earlier, THIS IS A LION KING SITE!!
I hope everyone can be in agreement about what I said. I will forever swear eternal loyalty for TLK and SP being the best Disney films for all time, past and future, and will be my faves for eternity.


Jul 29 - 17:19

angry pooh lover

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i'm baaaack !!!!!!! didn't you guys get my point or are you just stupid!? you are still bashing pooh. for the last time STOP ! cause i know where you live. plus the lion king is for two year olds like my brothers julius and henry. you people and your flea ridden cat simba suck $*@% !!! just grow up and get a life. i love pooh but i wouldn't dedicate web pages to him and i wouldn't make a pooh shrine. what idiot got the idea to have a lion king church on the internet ????? i'm outta here. i have better things to do with my life unlike you people. you make me sick to my stomach so be thankful you'll never hear from me again ! ( maybe )


Jul 29 - 16:57

angry pooh lover

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i'm baaaack !!!!!!! didn't you guys get my point or are you just stupid!? you are still bashing pooh. for the last time STOP ! cause i know where you live. plus the lion king is for two year olds like my brothers julius and henry. you people and your flea ridden cat simba suck $*@% !!! just grow up and get a life. i love pooh but i wouldn't dedicate web pages to him and i wouldn't make a pooh shrine. what idiot got the idea to have a lion king church on the internet ????? i'm outta here. i have better things to do with my life unlike you people. you make me sick to my stomach so be thankful you'll never hear from me again ! ( maybe )


Jul 29 - 16:57

Kiara

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Oh I'm sorry. Someone posted the answer to my previous posts while I was composing a post, but if anyone has any more info, please tell me!


Jul 29 - 15:45

Kiara
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Hey Zinou, as Charlie Chan would say, "Correction, please", ALL of the Mouseworks KIDS' BOOKS are 96 pages long!!!! I hope that cleared everyhting up.

Oh and no one has responded to my post about the publishing date and the release date of the Mouseworks SP book. I HAVE TO KNOW THE RELEASE DATE FOR SURE! thanx


Jul 29 - 15:43

Ducky

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Kiara, i went to the barnes and noble web page to see when sp was comming out. i dont think they even know when they are getting them! they just say we will send them to you when they get them. i think when they say it going to be published august 2 meaning thats when its ready to be sent out, but not nesesaraly(sorry, cant spell) getting to barnes and noble then. plus it will take a few weeks to ship it out anyway sop you should be looking for it around mid august-september. dont swear apon this advice cause i could be wrong, this is just what i think!


Jul 29 - 15:38

O.O Zinou

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OH! OH MY GOSSSSSHHHH.
I didn't mean to do that!!
I am SORRY!!
Forgive me , Mr.Tiemann!!

<:-o



Jul 29 - 15:25

Zinou

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Hey guys.


First off, in my last post i said Simba sounds like he 'plechs' when he says 'Pride'. Oops. It's when he says 'planned'. I knew it was a word that started with the letter p...

Anyways..
At Amazon.com, it gives specs on the SP book from mouseworks: It says its 96 pages long.
That's no kids book! A kids book is maybe, 15-20 pages, or less, long. 96? Novelization. :)
*yay*
I'm going to see if I can order the book or something -- my mom thinks that SP, and stuff, and all the fanatic craze here about it is dumb.
*ack*

Anyhow, I began to think (oh-no!)
about what the storyline might be
(C'mon, we only have a few more days before its spoiled forever! ;} )

So, in a summary, ( after where the 'Plot Synopsis' end off on this page) is what I think:
[The plot synopisis explains that Kiara is bad and runs off to where she isnt suppsoed to, meets Kovu, falls in love, blah blah,] ANYWAY:
When they grow up, they run away.
Simba gets MAD! Maybe that scene where he's fighting adult Kovu is where they find Kiara.
The lioness atnding by what I think's Kiara in that background is Nala. So, Simba and Kovu fight or something. >>maybe Kovu gets that scar like Scar's scar, like on that envelope?<<
Anways, so eventually Simba sees his errs in judgemnets, goes soft, and lets Kovu and Kiara rule the pridelands. Sure looks like it, but that's only a surmisal.

And, If they did say that Zira's Scar's former mate, how is Disnet going to explain where they were in the first one?
More liek it, how are they going to explain such to younger kids that suck their thumbs and chew the ears of their Kovu plushies?
Maybe SP will make world records for Disney, being PG.
*gasp*

Well, thats about all I can type, sitting here and blabbing. ( I know this is more than usual, my mainstay M*'s are down, and I have nothing else to do. ;} ) So, erm, bye!

WE are ONE

~Uh, whaddaz Busa mean?!~

Zinou
Jul 29 - 15:18

Sangoma

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Attention!
For all of us TLKiaWol adults who worship great cats, and the few of us who might be Nalaholics.. :) check out
"Passion in the Desert"
Its an amazing movie about a guys love affair with a Leopard. The movie made me speechless. Its an art film so it is only playing in a few theatres..
but see it if you can!

*this is a serious film with a not so happy ending, if you are easily grossed out by nudity or
dead animals..you might want to avoid.
PG-13

If anyone else has seen it drop me a note, love to hear what you think.


Jul 29 - 14:37

Kiara
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I forgot to post that Barnes and Noble will be selling a read a long for SP on August 1st or something like that. I might get the read a long or I might wait untill the Mouseworks book comes out. IF anyone wants me to spoil the story for you I will gladly do so.


Jul 29 - 14:19

Kiara
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I DON'T MEAN BE RUDE BUT NO ONE HAS ANSWERED MY LAST POST!! Could someone please answer my question? Oh, and Ducky, I agree with you that in the Mouseworks books the pictures are sometimes bad, but the Fox and the Hound book's pictures look like little kids' drawings!! But the illustrations for TLK were fine, I guess.


Jul 29 - 13:58

Ducky

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I was just wondering, are they gonna have a chapter book for sp? cause i got the tlk one about a month before tlk came to theatres(maybe not a month, but it was alteast a few weeks before). i didnt read it untill i saw the movie cause i didnt wanna ruin it. anyway maybe they will have the sp chapter book come out early too, if they make one anyway. i dont like the mouseworks books, the pictures always look bad! but whatever, im gonna keep my eye open


Jul 29 - 12:47

Alexander

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Yes, the Disney Catalog has plot information on Simba's Pride on the back page of the catalog. Here's what it says exactly:

"The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride, Disney's sequel to The Lion King, continues the saga of Simba as he teaches his daughter, Kiara, the meaning of the Circle of Life. The adventure begins when Kiara sneaks away from he inept baby sitters Timon and Pumbaa, and ends up in the forbidden Outlands. Zira, former mate of Scar, spies Kiara playing with a cub named Kovu. The tale unfolds as Kiara and Kovu fall in love and battle the forces of evil and take their place alongside Simba and Nala in the Pride Lands."

This confirms that Zira is indeed the former mate of Scar and it also confirms that Kovu and Kiara fall in love.

Interesting that Timon and Pumbaa are filling the role previously occupied by Zazu in TLK (babysitter).




Jul 29 - 12:23

Just another fan

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Just to let everyone know, the new Disney catalog wrote this on the back cover:

Simba teaches his daughter, Kiara, the meaning of the circle of Life. Then, Kiara sneaks away from her two baby sitters, Timon and Pumba, and goes to the Outlands. There, Zira, the mate of Scar, sees Kira and Kovu playing.

That is all the info I have. I hope it is helpful!


Jul 29 - 11:48

Stacy

Location: Tsavo,Africa
E-mail: Nala858585@aol.com

Okay,Im back from a 3-day trip to Cheese-head Land,and back from a visit to the local Disney Store (i normally go every tuesday&thursday),and i did find the music box,which had just arrived that day,along with a Kovu 12 inch plush,a "Party Animals" night shirt (non-SP),and a small,Simba beanie key chain(also non-SP).
I now find myself mesmerized for hours at a time,watching the little spinning Kiara,and listening to "Upendi".
HaKuNa MaTaTa,
Stacy


Jul 29 - 11:41

Mabi
Timon and Nandi's baby daughter
Location: Pride Lands
E-mail: DaMish86@aol.com

Hello everyone! Does anyone have a screeen grab of adolecent Simba (second simba in log scene) because he looks kinda cute with that partial mane. Thanks.


Jul 29 - 11:38

Kiara

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I hate to keep repeating myself, but when is the release date at Barnes and Noble for the SP book?? When is the publishing date, exactly? Is it August 2nd or August 5th? I want to know because I resereved a copy. And the info you get on the website is totally different from what I heard at my local BN store. Could someone set the facts straight???!!! Thanx.


Jul 29 - 10:58

Alexander

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No offense, but could you guys read what is in the Rumor Mill postings before you ask questions? The same things keep getting posted. For example, I posted Kiara's lyrics to "We Are One" last week and now we are seeing them again from someone else.

I don't mean to offend anyone, but it would be nice to leave space for the new information and not keep repeating ourselves.


Jul 29 - 08:56

Christian (KH#1)

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There's not too many new scenes on the new "We Are One." Shows Kiara watching some birds and chasing a butterfly and about to get eaten by a croc. I noticed that the Mulan tape has a song from Pocahontas II but no attention is called to it. However, it says all over the tape stuff about the new "Lion King" movie coming out. Had heard a rumour that SP would be released on Aug. 4 at Disney World so I called up Buena Vista Video and they said it will be Oct. 27 everywhere and that no place has special privileges. One rumor down the drain. They also said they had no information about it being released on DVD, which is fine since I don't have a DVD player.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Kiara's Home Page (with new sounds)

Jul 28 - 22:00

Krazy Kat
The Kraziest of All the Kats
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Yes,
Beerit's around. She's either lurking (which is unusual for her since her messages are always 300 pages long..yet don't get me wrong i enjoy reading them ;-) or spiffying up her page.

I do hope someone MPEGs the new version of We Are one (As much as i hate the instruments..) I'd like to see a few more new clips.

I treated myself to a viewing of TLK, (I don't watch it too often so i can be fascinated each time..) and I figured out how to work my parents Bose speakers. They're really tiny but Man do they produce some sound!! My cat fled the room during the stampede and my dog kept looking around for birds and bugs. The floor rumbled often (which I love) and I blared it up since every room's connected. ;-)

If you have the VHS version and some good speakers, this is a nice experience if you don't have an LD player...

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 28 - 21:07

kiara

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kiara's verse is

If there's so must I must be
can I still just be me,
the way I am
Can I trust in my own heart
or am I just one part
of some big plan


Jul 28 - 20:56

Kiara

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Hey, I agree with you on that one, about the time spent on P2, and a few weeks ago I had the same thought!! :) :)


Jul 28 - 17:53

Ducky

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Kiara, i think there is a good reason why pochahontis 2 was put out before sp. i dont think disney spent that much time on p2 but alot on sp, so that might make it slower for it to come out. but also, sp would have come out earlier(i think) if they didnt have to rewrite the whole thing. i really dont care cause pochahontis sucked and i bet the sequel will suck even more! if anyone out there likes it, please dont take offence, i dont wanna get some other fight started!


Jul 28 - 17:36

Swyft

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I posted something earlier but it's not here, if it's not here later i'll re-post it


Jul 28 - 16:54

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

I was at K-Mart and I saw this little section of Disney books called Story Time Treasures. It was all this kiddy stuff but I noticed that there was almost every Disney film, Cinderella, Dumbo, Bambi, Lady and the Tramp, etc. and also there was Herc, Hunchback, and _Pocahontas_ of all things,there was not one single Lion King book. Weird. Oh well, at least there wasn't any Pooh. :)


Jul 28 - 16:38

Kiara
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So you mean since Aug. 2nd is the publishing date, that means it will be in stores then? I'm sorry if I sound dumb it's just that I want to know and i dont know much about publishing and all. I don't care if it's a kid's book or novelization, I just want to know the full story, which will keep me from going banannas untill SP comes out on video. Which also goes into another thing: Why is Disney releasing Pocahontas 2 earlier than SP? I don't think that's very fair to us LK fans. Well that is just my two cents for now.


Jul 28 - 16:28

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello All,

Just a note to amplifiy what Kese said. The publication of a book is the official moment of release to the public. It has little to do with printing and distribution, other than most publishers like to get the books to the retailers by the publication date ;-) Some copies do sometimes escape; some sellers jump the gun and so on, as has happened with the singalong video.

I wonder if this book is a kiddie thing, or a more serious novelisation?

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 28 - 16:17

DiscoKim

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Hello

Is anyone going to have a clip of the "we are one" from the sing a long tape on their page or on your computer? If yes, could I download it cause I would really like to see it, thanx a bunch!!!!


Jul 28 - 15:09

Ducky

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i think the last two lines kiara sings is


"or am i just a part, of some big plan"


Jul 28 - 15:03

Kiara
Future Queen
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Thimba, Kiara's verse goes like this:

If there's so much I must be can I still jsut be me the way I am? Can I trust in my own heart, or am I just one part of some big plan?


Jul 28 - 15:03

Christian

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I think someone already posted Kiara's lyrics on the rumor mill here. If not, I'll put them up a little later. :-)


Jul 28 - 14:58

Thimba

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Guys, I just downloaded Kiara's line from the Sing-a-long and the words are hard to understand.

This is what I got:

If there's so much I must see
Can I ... just be me?
The way I am

Can I trust in my own heart?
..........................
.........................

And that's it! I can't make out the rest of it!

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE POST THE LYRICS TO KIARA'S VERSE? PLEASE?! I BEG OF YOU!

WeR1
Giza buyabo (I will return)


Jul 28 - 14:43

Kiara ,again!

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Oh and thanx everyone for putting up with my baloney since I came here!


Jul 28 - 14:32

Kiara

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I agree it may be already published but the original publishing date is august 2nd, but what I am asking is WHEN IS THE RELEASE DATE? DOES MOUSEWORKS HAVE A WEBSITE?? IF ANYONE KNOWS SEND ME THE URL!! sorry for my screaming, it's just that i have been waiting years for a TLK 2, and I want to know the full story soon without going nuts untill Oct 28th!


Jul 28 - 14:31

Raksha
Adoptive mother of Mowgli
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Hello, I'm new to the rumor mill -- Just wanted to say you people are cool. I'll come back when I have something useful to say
~Raksha


Jul 28 - 14:19

Dara

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Thanks Christian,
I was afraid Kiara would do all the singing!
But I think it's funny this way, when she also has some lines... and yes, maybe I need to get used to her voice.

Hakuna Matata!

Dara


Jul 28 - 13:49

Kese

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The SP book is most likely already published, packed and sitting in a warehouse awaiting release. Books are usually printed months in advance of release. Hoping that they publish it faster ain't gonna make 'em release it any sooner.


Jul 28 - 13:40

Christian

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Dara, Kiara has one verse in WeR1. You kind of have to get used to her voice. Simba still has all his lines. KH#1


Jul 28 - 13:24

Dara (just a short question)

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Hey guys! If Kiara sings "We are one" what about Simba singing it????

We saw the previeuw? Simba was singing we are one. Or was this just for the promotion or something?
I don't get it!
Or was Kiara singing it for the sing-along tape??

Could someone help me?

Bye!!!

Dara

p.s. I don't like Kiara singing. It was false! Simba has that beautiful deep voice!
Upendi seems like the song 'can't you feel the love tonight, something like that. Maybe I'm wrong. It sounded sweet, more like a lullaby.
But maybe it's because it's in a music box.


Jul 28 - 12:23

Dara

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mmm, I haven't been here for a while, but there seems to be no news... well, except for a peace-treaty between the Pooh and LK lovers...
Well Pooh, if ya also really love TLK, you can stay.

Yeah, the incest thingie is over now... Maybe Zira is related to Scar (and Mufasa) in some way.
Ya never know!

And yes! why can people be so stupid to make a sequel to Beavis and Butt Head??! I prefer to see SP!!!

Yeah Zinou! I heard that to about Simba saying Pllechide! I thought it was a mistake happend while downloading the soundfile or it was a mistake while recording... I first heard the sound, THEN I saw the previeuw.

I don't know Christian, what happend to Beerit.
Maybe she DID say goodby to SP and TLK, because she became a Hercules and Mulan fan??? Nč, she wouldn't do this to us, would she????

Ok ok, it's a lot of blabbering, but I have no news. I'm waiting for yours.

Bye!!! I'm going to check Kiara's "Upendi"

Dara


Jul 28 - 11:18

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail:

For those of you who don't want to spend money on the Mulan singalong try your local libary. I was at mine today and looked up the video. Turned out it is on order and should be there in a few days. I not saying all libarys will have it but it's worth a look.
So if anyone out there has the tecnology needed to make mpeg movie files, but does not want to buy the video, here is your chance to help out your fellow TLK and SP fans on the net :)

Just a few thoughts :)


Jul 28 - 09:28

Kiara
Future Queen
Location:
E-mail:

Does anyone know how long it takes for Mouseworks to publish their books? I hope it only takes about a week because I'm anxious to get the SP book. And I also hope that they are publishing it now so it comes out in the very beginning of August........


Jul 28 - 09:14

Zinou

Location: Ngorongoro
E-mail:

Heya, sorry I havent written in a while, computer's gone mad. ;)

I just wanted to tell ya'll that I went to my local Disney Store and looked around.
I saw:
Little porcelain figures
The lithograph, and the Kiara and Pumbaa puppet.
Some cups and stuff.
A picture frame with like Kovu and Kiara on it.
A display on the counter about SP.

I asked a salesguy about when it was coming out,
and he said " October 28th"
Then he tried to give me a sales pitch, about all the cool stuff you get if you preorder. If I can, I'm gunna get that stuff. hahaha.

H'OK! Now, I'm curious about the sing-along...
Is Kiara's 1 verse just added or is there other thingies?

BTW, has anyone listened to the May 10th preview
'We are one'
and the part where Kiara comes up out of the water, going "plech, plech!" (coughing)
Well, when Simba says 'Pride' he says it at the same time Kiara goes 'plech', so it sounds like Simba's going 'Pllechide..'
Weird.

Bye!
-=Zinou=-


Jul 28 - 06:30

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello All,

Taka - who is he? Well, most of us know, or think we know, that Scar was once called Taka. He was, in one storybook, or set of storybooks. The name was then taken up by FanFiction writers and elevated to the point at which many people call Scar Taka all the time. However, in the bits of SP we've seen so far there are two references to the lion formerly known as Scar, and he's Scar both times; "These lands belong to Scar", "To avenge Scar.". I am fairly sure that The name Taka will not be used in SP, and indeed probably is not used by Disney animation folks at all - the name was almost certainly a creation for a minor kid's book, nothing more.

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 28 - 03:54

Christian (KH#1)
Student enjoying the summer
Location: OC
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Judging from what I've seen and what others said in a couple other posts I think that the "We Are One" on the Mulan tape will not be what's actually on SP. Kiara's verse probably is a reprise and they just blended it in with Simba's parts to make it cohesive for a sing-a-long tape with some cheap piano and drum tracks that were laid down really quick. Sometimes on the video the art doesn't look all that great and sometimes it looks really good. One very brief scene with T&P looked very well done. Overall the quality was better than my recording of the May 10 preview and I'm hoping that someone will make a few new screen grabs soon.


Kiara-holic #1


Check out the new sounds at: Kiara's Sahifa.


P.S. Anyone know what happened to Beerit?


Jul 28 - 00:44

kiara

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i just got the mulan sing-a-long and i loved all the new clips from the movie i hope someone can put some pics. of the new stuff on there page because i am no computer wiz and can't do it my self. i also love kiara's solo but i think it will be a reprise of We Are One or somthing like that because it didn't seem to fit in with simba.


Jul 27 - 22:06

Blue Lion
www.bluelion.org
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I added 8 more screen grabs to my site from the Magoo preview... old news, but I likt to keep my pet project going (namely my site!)


Jul 27 - 19:31

Kiara (yet again!!)

Location:
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Oh if anyone wants for me to spoil the story for them when the book comes out I will


Jul 27 - 19:07

Kiara (again!)

Location:
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PS: I forgot to put in is that maybe being with Taka made Zira so like him and evil looking, and maybe they are related in some way which goes back to my incest post, but my question is: how did TAKA BECOME EVIL LOOKING? because if you go to the Text files page of this site, you find the story of Scar's lost autobiagraphy which I enjoyed very much. It turns out that he wasn't evil from the start, but how did he get to look that way (except for Sarabi or Mufasa giving him the scar...)


Jul 27 - 19:05

Kiara

Location:
E-mail:

Hey Snowy, I appreciate your comments very much about my idea, but remember when Simba calls Taka Uncle Scar and Mufasa Dad and Father, you have to keep in mind that Disney's plan for TLK was for ANIMALS to ACT like HUMANS and for TLKoB was just the opposite. You can't get mixed up with crucial info like this.............. :)


Jul 27 - 18:59

Jenna
www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/4569/
Location: Louisiana
E-mail: Jenna591@hotmail.com

Thanks Ducky and Kiara for the info


Jul 27 - 18:25

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: Krzykatmer@aol.com

Hey all,
Haven't posted in a while, (Basically because I had nothing to post..) Well, I heard Kiara's verse on the Mulan Singalong tape. Kiara sounds okay but I thought the way the rhythm and instruments was re-done, was HORRIBLE!!! PIano in the Pridelands? Honestly I like it better the other way. At least that was a little African and natural sounding... I'm praying that they change it!!! If this is the final version of "We Are One" and they're making a big deal of it, I'll be having my doubts about the other songs!

Hoping Her Heart Out,
Krazy Kat


Jul 27 - 18:12

Blue Lion

Location:
E-mail:

Not much news from me either, I just went to the Disney Store and saw some new SP merchandise, unfortunately it was all for kids... a tumbler and a kid's dinnerware set. I bought the porcelin figures... but I wonder why Kiara's muzzle in the figure is so dark.. it makes her look like she's got a 5 o'clock shadow or something.
About Upendi... is that like IJCWtbK or something? It kind of looks like Kiara's version... made me think of the first SP info I read about a year or so ago... (I mean WAY back... when the archive had that black background and the Simba image and all in front..) I can't rememebr if it was here or Ryan's Lion, but there was something about 'dancing wildebeests' in it... I think that might be Upendi (or a cut scene.. it was so long ago it was just first info and may have only been concepts..) My theory is Upendi is going to be like Kiara's version of IJCWtbK, kind of like a way of showing how she sees being queen and how it's different from young Simba's view of being king.. just a thought.

And I can't resist making this comment about Paramount... I read an earlier post (Amphriss I think wrote it) ...Beavis and Butt Head 2???? How stupid are they at Paramount!? (they were the ones that made it right?) The first one was terrible.. whay are they making it a sequal??? And releasing it with Dreamworks highly anticipated Prince of Egypt??? Do they have a death wish?? Why not release it on video opposite SP and totally kill themselves! Sorry about the comment.... I hate Beavis and Butt Head. Guess I need to fill a void since we're giving Pooh a pardon here:)


Jul 27 - 17:47

kovu

Location:
E-mail: wizzer000@aol.com

some sites say simba is going to die but i don't think so


Jul 27 - 16:54

Snowy

Location:
E-mail:

Kiara, about that incest thing: we've been over it before & we really haven't gotten anywhere with it. We'll have to wait until either the video comes out or someone gets the book (I've got one of six at my Barnes and Noble on hold for me). True, Kovu does look like Scar, but then again so does Zira, so it's hard to say (I personally think that he is, why else would Zira have such fierce loyalty to Scar?) About the titles though. As far as science can tell us (they say that animals can't express feelings like humans can but there are so many stories to the contrary...), you're right, lions doen't use any sort of destinction where relationships are concerned...but in TLK they do. Simba often refers to Scar as "Uncle Scar" and of course calls Mufasa both "Dad" and "Father," so where the TLK universe is concerned, these things do come into account. Just some stuff to chew on I guess. That's it for me, I've got a sibling breathing down my neck tellin me to get off the internet. Bye now.


Jul 27 - 16:38

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail:

Hey I really belive Kovu is Taka's(Scar) He looks so much like him and when I first saw him in the May 10th preview, that was the first thought that came to me. If Kiara and Kovu got married and had a cub, it wouldn't be incest. The reason why is because in the animal world, aunts, uncles,cousins, nieces, nephews,grandparents, and mothers and fathers don't really have any significance and no meaning as far as relationship and title, to a lion they are just other lions in their pride that are potential mates. They inbreed, but what do they know about the relationship of a cousin or uncle or someone in their family? Lions don't think the way we do: Titles have no significance if I haven't mentioned that before but if I did im sorry. Could anyone tell me what they think about this??!


Jul 27 - 16:11

Vulture

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Okay okay! Whatever you say, Kiara. I won't post I hate Pooh slogans or anything, you happy now? I see what you mean and that was a great "speach" you posted last time. And since I've been a pest to Pooh so much I will not post untill October 27th of this year, and untill i do it willl prevent me from posting anything mean about pooh bear. Bye everyone! I will post again when SP comes out!!


Jul 27 - 15:54

Ducky

Location:
E-mail:

I just got my sing a long tape, and i was listening to kiara sing and it sounds ALOT like lacey chabert!!! not exactly, but it does! i think that shes only doing her singing voice and some other girl is doing the talking voice, but i dont know yet for sure


Jul 27 - 15:02

Christian (KH#1)

Location:
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Attention!



Okay, people: I'm not doing this for the money. I'm doing it because I love you. You're the nicest bunch of people I ever met. The wav file of Kiara singing her verse of "We Are One" can now be found in the "Sounds" section of my website. I was able to find that Mulan tape at Target today but it cost $9.99. Also bought that Pride Rock Pairs game just because the cover's so cool. And my e-mail works again. I've included a link to my site. It will open a new browser window so you can come right back to the mill when you're done. Oh, "We Are One" sounds a little different than on the May 10 preview; a little less African sounding for some reason. And there's some cool new scenes as others have mentioned. Someone should make some new screen grabs because I don't have that capability. Peace and love to everyone.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Check out the Sounds section at: Kiara's Sahifa

Jul 27 - 14:47

Kiara
Future Queen
Location:
E-mail:

Oh and Vulture im sorry if I sounded harsh and Toys R Us has the sing a long and is about ten bucks and 6.99 in other places as of tomorrow. but yesterday when I got my tape, Tos R Us always matches prices to other stores so they matched the 6.99 price for me. How nice of them!! :)


Jul 27 - 14:39

Kiara
Future Queen
Location:
E-mail:

hey Vulture, even though we LK fans don't like Pooh very much except for the person who posted before me, don't be so mean!!! :P Even though TLK is Disney greatest movie ever and will be forever and infinity times infinity times infinity times infinity etc. to infinity.... than Pooh bear, you still have to respect the Pooh fans at this site, but even I only like pooh a little microscopic bit. I've got news for you,pal, I'm not defending pooh or his fans but the I hate pooh stories fad is over! How would you like it if Pooh fans said TLK stunk??! i want you to think about that.

PS: to all of the TLK lovers but Pooh haters, I was just trying to get a point across to Vulture so that Pooh lovers but TLK haters and TLK lovers but Pooh haters can live in peace and harmony at this wonderful Rumor Mill. Thank you one and all! :)

#MAY POOH LOVERS AND TLK LOVERS BE AT PEACE IN RUMOR MILL!#


Jul 27 - 14:31

Pooh

Location:
E-mail:

I don't want bad things done to me!


Jul 27 - 13:32

vulture

Location:
E-mail:

PS do bad things to Pooh!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jul 27 - 12:27

Vulture
A Menace in the Pridelands
Location: Outlands
E-mail:

What is the Mulan Sing a long Songs tape like as far as the SP song? Is it anything at all like the ABC preivew,or is it entirely different?? I would like to know if anyone has it yet where can you get it for a cheap price,and I heard it wasn't supposed to come out untill tomorrow. Well, since this is my first post here,and i havent looked at any of the recent posts (but I have read the old,old posts,) I gotta go now and read them. Bye for now!


Jul 27 - 12:26

Christian (KH#1)

Location:
E-mail: iluvronco@hotmail.com

Have been to six different places looking for the Mulan tape but just found out in a Best Buy ad I saw yesterday that its not officially supposed to be released until July 28. Some of us have already figured that out. So I'll buy or rent it tomorrow and put some sound clips up on my site ASAP. My dad's computer crashed over the weekend, so I had to go 48 hours internet-free until I was able to call tech support today and the nice man at the other end helped me get everything up and running. Then I tried to check my school e-mail account (the one that I have my kiara@lionking.org e-mail forwarded to) with the internet access and now I can't get in to it. I hope they didn't delete my account when I'm just home for the summer. That's why I put up my backup e-mail address until I find out what's going on. Saw the game at Target on Saturday called "Pride Rock Pairs: Animal Memory and Matching Game." The cover was done very good with a very nice scene and Kiara and Kovu drawn very good with correct coloring and correctly proportioned features. I hope they make a poster out of it. It wasn't some dumb thing that some two-bit artist who doesn't know what's going on rattled off hoping people wouldn't notice he did a poor job. Might even buy one of the games so I can scan in the picture for my site and save the game for when I have kids. Didn't see the "Hop-A-Croc" game though.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


P.S. If anyone e-mailed me and doesn't get a response . . . well, I'm working on it. I may, however, have permanently lost some e-mail.


We Are One


Jul 27 - 11:12

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail:

Jenna, I have an IBM computer, with an Acer monitor and they work well together. Does anyone have any news on SP? Im asking because Rumor Mill is getting rather dull when we get off the subject, but maybe we get off the subject BECAUSE THERE IS NO NEWZ!!!! But I sure heck there was something new going on, but that is out of fans' reach I suppose. Well that's my two cents for now! Bye!


Jul 27 - 07:24

Ducky

Location:
E-mail:

Jenna, i have a gateway and they are really good computers. this is our first computer so i dont know what this has that other pc's dont, but i guess its one of the best out there cause i read this artical and it said they were in the top 10. i hope that helps!


Jul 27 - 03:58

KiaraRose

Location:
E-mail:


I found the filmography for this "actress" at the Internet Movie Database and her credits date back to 1985. Obviously, this is not the 12-year-old who sang We R 1 back in April. Did somebody get some wrong info, or is it a coincidence that maybe TWO Kimberly Scotts are involved with SP?


Jul 27 - 00:47

Jenna
www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/4569/
Location: Louisiana
E-mail: Jenna591@hotmail.com

My mom is getting a new pc. We're pretty much absolutly getting a Gateway. What kind of pc's do ya'll have and have you had any problems with a gateway(if you own on) I know this wasn't SP related, but if i do get gateway, we might get a snappy(a camera that takes pics off tv and puts em on the computer) Maybe i can get SP pics


Jul 26 - 18:22

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail:

I just downloaded that Upendi thing at the Kiara's Sahifa and it sounds great! I can't wait until i get to hear the words and more importantly get to see SP. I heard that Disney will be gettting Simba's Pride in for sale on Oct. 9th? Is this true or just a silly rumor? I'd like to know cause i hope it's true. Can anyone confirm this???!!


Jul 26 - 17:41

Pooh

Location:
E-mail:

People hate me?


Jul 26 - 16:55

Sarabi
Former Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail:

What happened to all the "I hate Pooh" stories???


Jul 26 - 15:21

Tiki
Timon's mate
Location: Pride Lands
E-mail:

JFT, you don't have to tell me anything that's in the book because Since "Kiara" (the one who last posted is the one i mean,) and i live about 9 houses apart from each other, I can borrow her book but thanx for the offer of telling me most of the SP story :)


Jul 26 - 15:19

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: The Outlands visiting Kovu
E-mail:

I got the Sing a long today, and i love it, all except for the Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast songs. And I didn't just get it for the SP part I happen to love the movie Mulan and the otheres too. If I didn't already tell everyone, I preordered the SP book (like a couple of weeks ago) and it's supposed to be published in the first week of August and available in mid August so im told, but I hope that Mouseworks is publishing it RIGHT NOW AND WILL BE AVAILABLE SOONER, but you never can tell........


Jul 26 - 15:08

Pooh

Location:
E-mail:

I hate messages.


Jul 26 - 13:24

Ducky

Location:
E-mail:

Hey! i achually have info! ok, i went to this amusment park called Darien LAke(its near buffalo, New York) and i went into this store called "the looney bin" refuring to looney tunes. anyway they had merchandice for all types of chartoons and they had some stuff for SP! ok, you know those rubber keychains that have black backings? well they had one of kovu,kiara, pumbaa, and timon(i like him) and they also had the straws w/ the characters on them of only kiara( they had one of aladdin that was ugly and it made him look like he had no neck!) the products were by Applause so they should have them comming out soon:)


Jul 26 - 07:25

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@LionKing.org

Tiki, barnesandnoble.com has the SP book on preorder. It will be pulished on Aug 2. Hopefully it will be in the stores soon. I allready preordered a copy for next day air. If you want I'll tell all the best I can what hapens. Just to make sure, eventhough I'll be asked any how, I don't have a scanner right now so I can't scan it and put it on the net for you. I wish I could though.


Jul 26 - 07:14

Sarabi
Former Queen, grandmother to Kiara, mother to Simba
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail:

What is a snappy and what does it have to do with TLK and SP!?


Jul 26 - 06:49

jenna

Location: Louisiana
E-mail: Jenna591@hotmail.com

ANyone know a good place to buy a snappy?


My Site

Jul 26 - 00:26

TKABalster

Location:
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Ive recently seen a commercial about how Simba's name means 'lion'. They didn't tel of Kiara's name meaning 'water tank' :P


Jul 25 - 19:57

Kara

Location:
E-mail:

The official date for the sing along to come out was July 28th. Because of shipping or something, some stores probably put their copies out early. I'd look for it after the 28th. Hope that cleared things up.
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 25 - 19:14

Tiki
Timon's mate
Location: The Pride Lands
E-mail:

Like my friend Kiara just posted, Im sorry for asking those questions just like her so we r both sorry. I wonder if there will be a trilogy to TLK about Kiara(and maybe KOVU'S! :) ) cub! But since the circle of life has to continue because there is a second generation after Simba and Nala's, they might die :( . Oh well, Im getting ahead of myself because even the SEQUEL hasn't come out yet, but u never can tell. Ive talked enough for now and today so Bye 4 now!


Jul 25 - 18:09

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail:

Tiki and I are sorry for our repeatedly asked questions about the tape (We're best friends just so u know) I thank you all for the info (and so r my grandparents cause I've been bugging them about the tape!) Can anybody please make a Quicktime movie of the SP part in the Mulan tape because I have a friend Lithuania who is a TLK and SP fanatic and I dont think she'll be able to get the mulan thing where she lives so id be very happy if someone made it and i could send her the URL! Thanx for listening to my 2 cents today every1!


Jul 25 - 18:01

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail:

THE MULAN SINGALONG CAN NOW BE BOUGHT AT TARGET AND FOR ONLY $ 6.85 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jul 25 - 17:33

Amphriss
More News
Location: Boston
E-mail: Amphriss@AOL.com

Hi Everyone......Some Happy Meal Prize News.....Simba's Pride toys are slated to be at McDonald's Oct. 30- Nov. 19 (After that, Mickey D's will have Bug's Life toys) Don't believe me? Check out http://www.netcore.ca/~gkillops/bk.html
for all your MD,BK,Taco Bell and Wendy's toy news and releases!!!
Other Animation news.....There will be a Toy Story 2---- Andy goes to camp and leaves behind toys, an Evil toy collector steals Woody!!!

Dec. 18 weekend Dreamwork's 'Prince of Egypt' opens against Beavis and Butthead 2.

There will be a remake of 'The Incredible Mr. Limpet'......And for any sci-fi fans, Wing Commander filming is now in progress.


Jul 25 - 17:20

Alexander

Location:
E-mail:

I'll say it yet again----Toys R Us has the Mulan tape.


Jul 25 - 17:09

Tiki
Timon's mate and mother to four little Timons and Tikis
Location: Pride Lands
E-mail:

I agree with Kiara; WHERE CAN YOU FIND THE MULAN SING A LONG? I'VE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT IT FOR THE PAST 45 MINUTES! Oh well Hakuna Matata!


Jul 25 - 16:49

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail:

Well I went to Best Buy and Wal Mart and the store employees told me that the Mulan sing along wont be out untill July 28! What's going on here!!???!! CAN ANYONE TELL ME FOR SURE WHERE THE DARN THING IS ON SALE?! ID LIKE TO KNOW CAUSE I SPENT 2HRS ON A WILD GOOSE CHASE IN MY TOWN FOR A PLACE THAT HAS THE SING A LONG. Sorry for my caps thing. And I also wonder if there will be a second sing a long video for SP by itself with Upendi and maybe 1 or 2 other (unknown yet)songs from SP? Oh well id better stop worrying. HAKUNA MATATA EVERYONE!


Jul 25 - 16:43

Kichebo

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just curious...
did everyone's DS have their SP items prominently displayed? cause every time i have visited one of our 3 local DS', I had to hunt to find SP stuff....

like, the picture frame was on the top shelf of a wall display (at 5'7 i had to stand on my tippy toes to grab it), the ceramic figures were on the very bottom of an island display, the snowglobe was on the top shelf inside a glass case...
.
even the Kovu plush I bought was buried under old Simba and Nala plushes.... weird huh?


Jul 25 - 16:39

Kiara
Future Queen
Location:
E-mail:


Jul 25 - 16:37

AMPHRISS
NEWSFLASH EVERYONE!!!!
Location: Boston
E-mail: AMPHRISS@AOL.com

ATTENTION TO ANYONE WHO HAS THE SP BEANIE MAGNETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just called one of the Disney Stores locally and a 'cast member' told me that these beanies were only offered in 30 stores worldwide and WERE TEST PRODUCTS ONLY!!! This means that they may or may not be offered ever again!!! Don't pull off those tags!!!! SO if you have these, CONGRATULATIONS you have the first SP items of any real collectible value!!!!!!!

Anyone have any to sell :))?
I didn't think so.


Jul 25 - 14:56

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail:

For those of you with out a Best Buy The Mulan singalong can be bought at Target for $6.85.

On a related note is anyone going to put the Mulan version of We Are On on the net? I realy don't want to play into Disney marketing ploy of changing info by buying the vid, but that might just be me.

Just my thoughts :)


Jul 25 - 14:35

AMPHRISS

Location: BOSTON
E-mail: AMPHRISS@AOL.com

Hello all....
It's been awhile since I've been here! Wow, I've missed alot. I've finally pre-ordered SP (with the Kira puppet with the perpetually open mouth!)

Re: the envelope art.....Maybe Kovu gets his scar from a fight with Simba, then Simba recoils in horror because he sees himself helping repeat the past....Disney couldn't let something like that slide...Better yet, Zira gives it to him for switching loyalties.
Alsoooo......
Although Boston is graced with 3 disney stores, the one I went to was sadly lacking in SP merchandise. They had the kiara, Kovu, Timon and Pumba beanies (NO magnet beanies! ARRGHGH) the cheesy kid's glass (plastic), the waterglobe (Do I see shades of 'Warthog Rhapsody' here??) , SOME of the ceramics (NO KOVU OR ZIRA!! ARRRGH) , and the photo frame. I'm holding out for better merchandise--- the nicest thing was the waterglobe, but Disney uses very thin glass for it's globes.... they break easily over time (brittle glass!!!). I pre-ordered and went home. I'm hoping that Applause comes out with either ceramic or plastic character head mugs again for SP.
To Zira: I mentioned the Hallmark SP ornament a few weeks ago---- it's Simba and Nala 'necking', no new characters, sorry!! Unless of course there is something you know that we don't know! :) The hallmark SP orn was on the H. website before the Keepsake weekend Gala thing.

Disney's website has been sadly lacking in SP merchandise....What ever happened to the famed Disney 'synergy'?????


Jul 25 - 14:01

Alexander

Location:
E-mail:

If you really want that Mulan Sing Along tape, you can get it at Toys R Us. That's where I got mine.

And yes, all the Simba's Pride footage is a big mix----stuff you've seen, new stuff, and you won't see some things that you saw on ABC. They could have just played the song as is, but I guess they were looking at it as more of a trailer for the movie (but then again, the trailer for TLK was the entire Circle of Life scene, and nothing else).


Jul 25 - 09:46

the Panther
student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahooo.com

Chris: Thanks, you not only gave me an answer. You gave me info to put on my homepage, with your permission?

About Disney missleading, yes i think they do, and i think they should, no one wants to know the ending of a book before he/she has read it, right? well i dont anyway. The point is, if everybody knew the plot exactly, not many would buy the film. Thats what i think anyway.
Thanks

the Panther


Jul 25 - 09:44

Tiki (Nandi is my middle name)
Timon's Girlfriend
Location: Pride Lands
E-mail:

Hey I was just wondering if that the SP book from Mouseworks is coming out soon. If anyone knows, please post the date along with your other info and e mail it to me! Well, gotta go so bye!


Jul 25 - 09:38

Nandi
Timon's Girlfriend
Location: Pride Lands
E-mail:

Hey kiara, I think you r right about the birds and roar thing, it's just that i think it's unfair that the Disney company mixed everything up with the may 10th preview and the magoo traler. I know that it's a marketing strategy, but it still isn't fair! :( Is the Mulan Sing a long like that? can anyone tell me cause id like to know Im getting it tomorrow. Hey are there any Timonaholics out there!? E Mail me if you R!


Jul 25 - 09:24

Kovu

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Lucky yall- I don't have a DS or Hallmark :(


Jul 25 - 09:16

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail:

Hi! Your future queen here! If some of you are wondering where to get that Mulan thing, Best Buy stores will probably have them, and in my town, Best Buy has an entire section in the video department dedicated to Disney movies and they have a big section of sing a longs. Well hakuna Matata everyone! bye!


Jul 25 - 07:46

kiara

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i just realized somthing after watching the song We Are One for the 1000 time when all the birds fly up kind of in panic at the very begining of that scene you can see adult kovu and kiara standing on a high hill and i con sware that kiara roar (as seen at the end magoo trailer) is the reason for the panicing birds, but i could be wrong. you can check for yourself.

-kiara-


Jul 24 - 21:33

Kichebo

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got my Kovu plush from the Disney Store today, waaa-hoo!
What a cutie! :-)


Jul 24 - 16:31

Ducky

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Thanx Alexander! i wanted to know the songs cause my mom was going to the store and i wanted her to pick it up for me but i didnt wanna spend the money and have all the songs suck, but i like them so ill have to make her get it:)


Jul 24 - 16:27

Zira

Location: NY
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HI, just wanted to tell you that I found out that Hallmark is coming out with a sp ordement in oct.! I have a picture of it.


Jul 24 - 15:56

Christian (KH#1)

Location:
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

I'm trying to track down that Mulan thing so I can put up a sound file of Kiara singing her verse of WeR1 but they didn't even have it at the Disney Store!!! Well, I'm still searching. I thought the snowglobe looked pretty good. They never quite get the character's faces right but the design was cool. It has Rafiki sitting on the end of an elephant's snout and another elephant on the other side spouting out some water. Some other stuff too. T&P, K&K, etc. They had some items in a very nicely done Simba's Pride display case and I saw absolutely nothing Pocahontas II oriented there.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Kiara's Sahifa (Home Page)


Jul 24 - 15:45

Alexander

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Sure Ducky, I can post the songs off the Mulan Sing Along tape:

Honor to Us All (Mulan)
Zero to Hero (Hercules)
The Siamese Cat Song (Lady and the Tramp)
Where Do I Go From Here? (Pocahontas 2)
A Guy Like You (Hunchback of Notre Dame)
A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes (Cinderella)
We Are One (The Lion King 2 Simba's Pride)
A Little Thought (Belle's Magical World)
On the Open Road (A Goofy Movie)
I Won't Say (Hercules)
Father and Son (Aladdin and the King of Thieves)
I'll Make a Man Out of You (Mulan)

Hope this helps.


Jul 24 - 14:45

Ducky

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Hello, could someone please post all the songs off the mulan sing along for me please? if you could it would be a big help, thanx


Jul 24 - 14:10

Steele
Siberian Husky Furre
Location: Nenena, Alaska
E-mail: Smoke signal

Hello all! :)

I just had to say that I am *really* starting to like how Kiara's attidude looks. She seems like she will be a very normal kid, wanting to break away, be independant. She seems quite strong willed....I wonder if this was taken by Julie Taymor's version of Nala and Rafiki in the Broadway. I can't wait to see more of her character! SP is just looking better and better as the info, clips and merchandise get released. Looks like Disney may have finaly produced a good sequel......heres to hoping! :)


Jul 24 - 14:02

Nandi
Timon's girlfriend
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: DaMish86@aol.com

Hello everyone! Timon's girlfriend here! I'm posting the following cause I have to clear up some Timon issues here. First of all Timon and I are not I repat NOT old meerkats, we're actually young adults. When Fluffy Puff-er-I mean Timon and Pumbaa found Simba in the desert a few years ago, they and I were actually teenagers, its just that their voices matured a little faster, making them very old when Simba grew up and became king which is not true. And Timon and Pumbaa are not gay it's just that Pumbaa is too dense to even feel love and Timon and I have know each other since the colony, which leads into another thing: Pumbaa was an outcast because of his smell and Timon and I were outcasts and adopted Hakuna Matata as our lifestyle because the colony never let us have any fun so that's why we ran away. So I hope you enjoyed my explanations and hope you learned a lot. Bye! I have to go tend to Timon's and my little meerkats so bye!

-Nandi


Jul 24 - 11:39

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pridelands
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Hey! I just got back from a four day vacation in Wisconsin and this place is packed with a lot more posts than I expected!! Is the Mulan sing a long tape out yet? I want to see the We are One thing and I wonder if it's any different than the ABC May 10th preview! i hope so cause I watched it so much my tape is nearly busted and I memorized the whole thing! The SP book I ordered is coming out in the middle of August, and I hope the time passes very quickly!


Jul 24 - 11:27

Kovu

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Major Cast:
      Rowan Atkinson - Zazu
      Mathew Broderick - Adult Simba
      Neve Campbell - Kiara
      Robert Gualliome - Rafiki
      Moira Kelly - Nala
      Nathan Lane - Timon
      Zoe Leader - Sarafina
      Ernie Sabella - Pumbaa


Jul 24 - 09:46

Kara

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I looked up those names and came up with this:
Cheryl Freeman, Roz Ryan, Vaneese Thomas, and Twatha Agel (I don't know if I spelled that right) are from Hercules and Marni Nixon is from Mulan. I couldn't find anything on the rest of them, except that Mary Stout was from a TV show called Remember WENN. I don't know if that helps, but that's what I found.
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 24 - 09:44

Alexander

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Whoops! That name in my post below should be Vaneese Thomas.


Jul 24 - 09:11

Alexander

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Here's more female voices from the Mulan Sing Along credits. Maybe someone recognizes a name:

Arminae Austen
Cheryl Freeman
Michelle Horn
Marni Nixon
Roz Ryan
Charity Sanoy
Mary Stout
Vaneese Thamas

One of these ladies has to be Kiara's voice, unless it is Twatha Agee. This is confusing because the Muses song from Hercules was also on this tape and I don't know the names of the women who voiced them. Also on the tape was the "Honor to Us All" song from Mulan, which has a number of female voices.


Jul 24 - 09:10

Krazy Kat

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E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Cam Clarke for Simba's singing voice? He sounds pretty okay to me, but what ever happened to Joseph William, Adult Simba's TLK singing voice? Just a thought...

Agh!! Geez people you didn't have to bite my head off!! I DONT KNOW WHAT LACEY CHABERT, NEVE CAMPBELL, OR KIMBERLY SCOTT SOUND LIKE!! I'm SORRY!!!!!!!! Geesh!

Well, i have no news.

Hey, maybe someone could make an MPEG and a Quicktime of the new "We Are One" clip? I don't mind the bouncing ball or whatever...and I'm sure neither do most of the others....?

Uhh...that's about it for now.

Krazy Kat
PS- LET THE PEASENTS REJOICE!!!!! I fixed my computer!! Beerit, now as soon as I can scan my new artwork since i got the comp with the scanner back online I'll send them to you. ;)


Jul 24 - 08:53

elyse

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alexander..i did a search on twatha agee & apparently she is a back-up singer, but that is about all the info i could find.
~elyse


Jul 24 - 08:50

Alexander

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OK, I don't know why I didn't do this earlier, but I fast forwarded to the credits on the Mulan Sing Along tape and:

It appears that Cam Clarke sings for Simba and Matthew Broderick does the speaking voice.

Lacey Chabert is NOT the speaking or singing voice for young Kiara. There was no listing of Lacey Chabert at all. There was also no mention of Kimberley Scott, and just to rest some of your minds at ease, Neve Campbell has absolutely nothing to do with the voice of Young Kiara (we all knew this but I wanted to further confirm it). It appears that young Kiara was voiced by a non-famous person. A possibility from the names listed in the credits: Twatha Agee. Anyone heard of her?

"We Are One" was written by Jack Feldman and Marty Panzer, with music by Tom Snow.


Jul 24 - 07:53

KH#1

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Dang, that last post from me had an incredible number of spelling errors and typos. Maybe its because I can't wait to see the new preview scenes. :-)


CMZ


Jul 23 - 20:35

Christian (KH#1)

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Disney isn't really being misleading when they put different scenes in the "We Are One" video. It really is meant to be just a collection of snippets from the movie set to music, but I suppose they have a secondary (not primary) purpose of not giving away too much of the story line. When it shows the song in the actuall video the action going a long with it will probably be a fairly straightforward Simba leading Kiara around the Serengeti type thing and we'll see alkl those other scenes in different parts of the video. I might go rent that Mulan Sing-A-Long thing now. Don't think I would want to but it. It would be good to get screen grabs from it but it probably has those words at the bottom with the ball bouncing on them or something. Cold Dragon: hope you find a way to listen to "Upendi" soon. have some big news too, but I'll confirm it first before reporting it. Peace and love to all.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Kiara's Sahifa


Jul 23 - 20:33

TKABlaster

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"We Are One"

As you go through life you'll see
there is so much that we, don't understand.
And the only thing we know
is things don't always go, the way we planned.

But you'll see every day
that we'll never turn away,
when it seems all your dreams come undone.
We will stand by your side
filled with hope and filled with pride.

We are more
than we are,
we are one.

Even those who are gone
are with us as we go on.
Your journey has only begun.
Tears of pain,
tears of joy,
One thing nothing can destroy..
Is our pride, deep inside,
we are one.

We are one, you and I
we are like the earth and sky.
One family under the sun.
All the wisdom to lead,
all the courage that you'll need....
you will find when you see
we are one...


Jul 23 - 19:28

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail:

Sorry I missed a few days again, I realy am trying to keep up to date.
Anyway now that I wrestled the computer away from my Dad (he should regain consciousness in a hour or so) here are a few jewls :)

First
Thank you Christian for offering to E-mail me Upendi. I can't take you up on that though, my Dad won't let me give out my E-mail address.

Second
TKABlaster GET A LIFE AND SOME HELP !!!!!!
I am also a perfectionist, but I try not to purposly annoy people with it. I am also very much into having realistic things in movies, but you have to understand that somethings are not ment to be realistic. Try to appreachate things in there own way instead of complaining about things that won't change. Scar's real name is Taka. A TLK story (I don't remember which one) said that Sarabi gave Taka his scar. Scar was hitting on her (to put it in a G rated way) and she defended her self.
Also Just Can's Wait to be King was supposed to be a childs fantisy. Case in point Simba does not realy want Mufasa to die so he can be King!!!!!!!!! Ever see a kid color animales in a book they become all diffrent unnatural colors. KIDS DON'T CARE IT IS EYE CANDY THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS TO THEM!!!!!!!!!

Kovu King of Kings in the RotPl cd version of HM it said that Timon use to work in a meerkat colony. He was always trying to get ahead and never had time for fun. It sounded like a yuppie in the 80's type of thing.

I forget who started the dream buisness (no offence). I have also dreamed about SP. In my dream I went to Walden books in my local mall. A friend of mine works there and she tells me that they got in an order of SP books in July. She lets me buy copys that day. I then read and share that story with everone here and there is much rejoycing.

Sorry to wrote so much but I never know when I'll will be back. Can't wait till I get my own computer in August :) :) :)

Just a few thoughts :)


Jul 23 - 19:16

Alexander

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OK, I've got Kiara's lyrics to "We Are One":

Simba: We are more than we are we are one.


Kiara: If there's so much I must be
can I still just be me
the way I am?
Can I trust in my own heart
or am I just one part
of some big plan?

Simba: Even those who are gone. . .

I'm not sure if Kiara's lyrics are really part of the song or if they are part of a reprise (like "Belle" in Beauty and the Beast"). This is quite confusing!

Also, a little note: At the beginning of "We Are One" Simba and Kiara watch a mother bird and her babies. One baby bird flies out of the nest and the mother makes the bird come back to the nest. Kiara makes a disappointed face.

At the end of the song, after Simba shows Kiara Pride Rock, the same little baby bird flies on to the screen around Kiara. The bird flies off into the horizon, and Kiara makes another disappointed face. We then see her perched on a rock as the sun sets (this was shown in the Mr. Magoo preview).

Nice foreshadowing here, and maybe a good indication that this will really be a well thought out film.

Some shots from the ABC clip were not included, and not much at all from the Mr. Magoo clip was shown.

Some new stuff is shown, as my earlier post says. We also get to see what may be Kiara and Kovu's first encounter (Kiara crashing in to Kovu).

As for Kiara's singing, it could be Lacey Chabert's voice. It sure isn't Kimberly Scott.


Jul 23 - 18:43

TKABlaster

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Hey I have We Are One lyrics if ya want em.


Jul 23 - 16:10

Alexander

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Yes, there is an extended version of "We Are One" on the Mulan Sing Along Tape, and yes, Kiara sings a verse. I just bought the tape today at Toys R Us. I have not written down what she sings, as I wanted to post this right away.

Unfortunately, while this is an extended version of the song, things are as confusing as ever, as a great deal of footage was clearly not related to the song. There was more new crocodile footage (with Kovu freaking out because there's a croc behind Kiara), and a sequence with some birds that answers the question of what young Kiara keeps looking at during "We Are One." The music sounds a bit different than the ABC preview, especially the very begining of the song. There was one more lioness in the Zazu/Timon and Pumbaa scene in which they are headed towards Pride Rock.

I'll post Kiara's lyrics soon if someone doesn't beat me to it.

Also, I saw the Simba's Pride board (Hop on crocs) at Toys R Us today. Nothing spectacular---I didn't get it. A fairly simple looking game with cardboard pawns of Kovu, Kiara, Timon and Pumbaa.


Jul 23 - 16:09

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello Folks,
Panther - the Serengeti (the spelling varies a bit :-) National park is in Kenya on the Tanzania border - i.e. East Africa. The problem is that there are a number of backgrounds seen in TLK that are recognisable, particulary Mt. Kilamanjaro and the Victoria Falls, but these are in fact hundreds of miles apart. In other words the TLK landscape is a patchwork of bits from all over Africa rather than any one place. Pride Rock itself is sort of like any number of rocks, but unlike any particular one. TLK happens in a sort of 'Fantasy Africa' which doesn't really exist in the real world, but looks rather like parts of the real world.

The report of the extra verse in "We Are One" is interesting. To be honest I could not detect any edit in the soundtrack on the preview, but then I was not looking for it. There again, Kiara having a verse sounds a perfectly good idea. From what I've heard of kimberly Scott (which is not very much it must be said) she *deosn't* sound like the 11/12 year old she is. If, and its a fairly big if, she really does sing on the video then I'm fairly sure it would be for Adult Kiara. If you remember she sung "We Are One" for the Animal Kingdom TV special, and I presume that's why she's thought to be doing the video, but it may not necessarily follow - she might not appear on the video at all, or maybe on the titles like Elton did on TLK.

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 23 - 15:41

Dara

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TKABlaster and Kovu King of Kings be really nut now and post your e-mails so you can argue in private...
o.k. nothing more to say 'bout this.

Lioness, thanks!!! Luv ya!
I'll wait for the mail to come!

Krazy Kat, did ya have some dreams lately??

HAKUNA MATATA!

Dara


Jul 23 - 14:53

Lioness

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Krazy Kat-
What does the We Are One song have to do with the Mulan Sing- Along tape? Does it have the song on there or something?
You think you can get the words to the verse Kiara sings?


Jul 23 - 13:29

Kese

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E-mail: sollarus@erols.com

They would be near to impossible to find now. They were a special offer from a book company(Groiler) when TLK was first released. After four years I'm sure they've run out of them:(


Jul 23 - 13:01

Alexander

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Krazy Kat, Neve is in her 20s, and sounds nothing like young Kiara in the We Are One clip.

Neve is definitely voicing adult Kiara.

If I had to guess, I'd say that maybe Lacey sings for Young Kiara.

Then again, Kimberly Scott is only 11, so I wonder if she sings for anyone (I kind of hope not!). You don't suppose Adult Kiara's singing would sound like an 11 year old, do you?

I don't know, but Neve is definitely NOT young Kiara.


Jul 23 - 12:35

Krazy Kat

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E-mail: krzykatmer@aol.com

AHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Skip the trillion exclamation points)

Pay attention children I do believe I've got something here. Ahem, i'm quoting from Chandra on TLK-L (thanks for posting this Chandra!!) that i read this morning. ahem:

"My buddy got the new Singalong song tape to mulan and on We are one there is
brand new footage and KIARA HAS HER OWN VERSE! I dont know if anyone has posted
this yet but I thought I would let you all know!:)

-Chandra"

Now, what I first thought wuz, "HOLY CRAP!" The "We Are One" clip is NOT the full We Are One song...tsk tsk tsk, Disney's been misleading us again!

Now, everyone was talking about how Young Kiara does NOT sound like Lacy Chabert a while ago. (I'm not sure I've never heard Lacy Chabert b4) I was glancing at Brian's SP page, and i noticed under the voices:

"Young Kiara: Lacey Chabert
Adult Kiara: Neve campbell, Kimberly Scott (singing)"

Now it COULD BE that we have these two confused. it would make sense wouldn't it? Well, sorta. If Kiara has her own verse maybe Neve Campbell is her young voice and kimberly scott is her young singing voice; making Lacy Chabert her adult voice.

Now don't throw rotten veggies and boo at me!! I havent really seen anything w/ Lacy, Neve, or Kimberly in it so I'm not exactly sure what their voices sound like. Comments? Suggestions???????

Your (As Best as I can Be) SP Updater,
Krazy Kat ;)


Jul 23 - 11:54

Swyft

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

Kese- where can you buy "The Six New Adventures of TLK"? it sounds pretty neat

-Hakuna Matada


Jul 23 - 11:51

the Panther
Student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahoo.com

TLK is played out in Africa Serengeti, right? is this place real or made up? if its real were does it lay? couldnt find it in my maps,
thanks

the Panther


Jul 23 - 11:36

TKABlaster
CIA
Location: The Great Big Place Where People Like Me Come From
E-mail:

Of COURSE I'm gonna flame him. He's my next door neighbor :(
Well, anyway, those pics are something I would love to send but my dumb computer changes 'em to wav. files!>:(


Jul 23 - 09:38

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail:

Brian--you redid the Rumor Mill! I like! Very...uh...dignified looking. You just got mail from me cuz I'm disappearing from TLK-L for a while. Unfortunately, I should have left it for a friend who I've told Rindimo about. But, I will return (Shadowland). Hope no one there missed me too much!

Well, this will be short and sweet. I'm being taken to a funeral (goody) and where I am headed, they have probably never heard of the net. (Computers are very new to them) I'm only here to get my internet fix (as my dad calls it, but so far I haven't been on long enough to get a fix that will last UNTIL THE 31! Aggh! Melt down! I'm about to be thrown into the car so...quick statement: TKABlaster, you have a problem. Coming in here and acting like you own the place, well...you don't. I don't think that there's been a catfight in here in a long time (Brian, verify to me, I don't think that has ever been), so why don't you just cool things between you and Kovu King of Kings. You act real immature in here. Well, I have someone staring me down, so I have to go!

Nala


Jul 23 - 06:19

TakaNuka

Location:
E-mail: takanuka@hotmail.com

Hello!
Does anyone know where I can find pics of or info on Nuka?
Thanks!


Jul 23 - 05:05

Vitani
Student of Zira.
Location: The Outlands.
E-mail:

QUESTION:

Has anyone seen any pictures of Vitani online? If so, could you please post the address here, or e-mail them to me?

.::{Vitani}::.Many thanks,

Vitani

"The Winds Have Tasted My Roars."

--Amber.


Jul 23 - 00:16

Smilee

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E-mail: coryhicks@geocities.com

TKA Blaster: I would love to see these pics that you are talking about.

Also: Does ANYONE have a pic of the handpuppet that you get when you pre order SP?

Smilee
E-Mail coryhicks@geocities.com


Jul 22 - 20:17

Krazy kat

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Brian,
I am using a crappy old AOL Browser. It must not be java enabled.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 22 - 20:09

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

Actually, Java was new in early 1996. It's very much a standard thing today. All major browsers have been supporting it for over two years now. What browser are you using that isn't Java-capable?


Jul 22 - 19:32

Kovu King Of Kings

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What's Timon's story? Pumba's is told, but why is Timon an outcast?

PS: Is there a Kovu? I want to shorten my name.


Jul 22 - 19:04

TKABlaster

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Java is a fairly recent program that enables advanced vidoes to be played directly from the Web Page you're on.


Jul 22 - 19:03

Krazy Kat

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Lioness,
as much as Id like to chat, my browser is not "Java Enabled" whatever that is. what is "Java Enabled" (and if anyone answers Coffee I'll kill you. ;)?????

I did a search on Jennifer Lien (Vitani)and Andy Dick, (Nuka) but I had no luck whatsoever on their SP work. All the SP info i found was from 1997 and was very incorrect. If I find something new at all I'll post it...

Krazy Kat


Jul 22 - 18:34

Lioness

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HI everybody! Well, no news here but I do have a question. Does anybody come onto the chat anymore? It says to meet at 9:00 eastern time and recently (these past few days) I haven't seen many people. Just thought I'd say something.....


Jul 22 - 18:14

Kovu King Of Kings

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I got a bunch of that stuff from my gf... she's a bigger nut then I am!


Jul 22 - 17:53

Blue Lion

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The Disney store now has a Kovu plush, I just bought one tonight. It might not be available at all DS but it couldn't hurt to check!


Jul 22 - 17:52

Krazy Kat

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ARRRGGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TKABlaster and Kovu King of Kings, if you're gonna argue PLEASE SO IT THROUGH PRIVATE E MAIL. we don't care how you waste our time as long as you don't waste ours! Please!!!

Stacy,
want to give you a welcome back, even though i havent met you yet (Only been here a few months) but i look forward to your posts! There is a snowglobe but there is also a music box that plays a new SP tune "Upendi". I E Mailed it to Christian and it can be found on his Kiara's Sahifa (link in Brian's SP section) or if you like I can E Mail it to you privately.

Dara...I wish my dream was true too!!! ;)

That's all folks,

A Disturbed,
Krazy Kat


Jul 22 - 17:49

Kovu King Of KINGS

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Yeah whatever.


Jul 22 - 17:40

TKABlaster
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Shut up, Kovu King Of Blobs of Goo, or I'll change birth record to where your middle name is "Major Lion King Moron Jerk" or something like that.
And I can. And I would.
Whatever.


Jul 22 - 17:39

kese

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E-mail: sollarus@erols.com

Scar's birthname can be found in the book set "The Six New Adventures of TLK"
It's pretty messed up though, Taka means:Garbage, worthless or wanting. Kinda makes you wonder about Scar's mom and dad....


Jul 22 - 17:24

Stacy (im back !!)

Location: Tsavo,Africa
E-mail: nala858585@aol.com

hi,im back from almost a year of not posting (shame,shame)!Anyways...i found the Kiara plush,both of the beanies,the pre-purchase for the video,the frame,two of the ceramics(Kiara and Timon and Pumbaa-my disney store doesnt carry the others),and the Timon&Pumbaa plush....but whats this music box?? Or is everyone refering to the snowglobe with Kiara and Kovu in the center,timon in a hippos mouth(why did they put him there!?!?),pumbaa in the water,and simba and nala on the back?

oh... sorry about the last post.....my comp froze up and it mysteriously posted....

HAKUNA MATATA! -Stacy


Jul 22 - 16:49

Stacy
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Jul 22 - 16:37

elyse..yes me again

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did you know????? that there was an ape in planet of the apes named zira??


Jul 22 - 15:46

ELYSE

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HEY KOVU KING OF KINGS....YOU BETTER BE CAREFUL, TKABLASTER MIGHT GET A HOLD OF YOUR VISA. j/k
~elyse


Jul 22 - 15:20

Lioness

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Ok Dara- check your email in a bit ;)


Jul 22 - 15:11

TKABlaster

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Fine.


Jul 22 - 15:06

Kovu King Of Kings

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Shut up TKA you nut.


Jul 22 - 15:06

TKABlaster
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Question: How the hell did you find Scar's birth name?!? <:(


Jul 22 - 15:05

Dara

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Gee! I just noticed how dumb I really was not noticing lions cannot shift their eyebrows...
Guess TLK is all a fake if we have to believe TKABlaster... (a little tip: try to use the proper names next time... I've never heard of Bonzia or Rafreaky)

Mmmm, Christian, I think Zira is not the type for a hypnotizing... I think mybe she'll brainwash him or something. She doesn't look like a type who's in the hypnotizing business... Kaa (Jungle Book) is. Please Ducky, let's not get stuck in another "gay" confrontation again. They're not gay! Timon loved some girls before in the Timon and Pumbaa shows. I think maybe Pumbaa is to dumb (exuse me for saying this) to fall in love or something.

TKABlaster, what's so interesting about Visa bill's? I think most of us don't care. It's kinda private don't ya think?

Hé Krazy Kat! I can't remember being in the US!! But how I wish your dream was true!

Oh Lioness, did you read my message far below?
Hope you did. It's about the picture you made for me. it's ok if you send it to me if the pic isn't bigger than 63Kb. Try to save it as an JPEG file or JPG file or try to make it smaller if it's more then 63Kb. Please? Hope to see it soon.

Bye everybody!!
HAKUNA MATATA!!

Dara


Jul 22 - 14:44

Neema

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E-mail: neema@lionking.org

Here's from a very madmad Neema. :P


Well, my mom was nice enough to let me power-shop at the Disney Store. NOTHING ON SP. Alllright... well, it's probably because I live in the middle of nowehere, and it's in the desert in California -- intresting, no? Anyhoo, I didn't see any music box, no plushies, no ceramic figures... this stinks. :< Anyway, no rumors or whatever... I'm just here to ask what do the plushie things look like? :>


Neema.


Jul 22 - 14:28

TKABlaster
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You have no idea.


Jul 22 - 13:56

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Its official now, I'm no longer a TLK/ Hercules fan...
no, don't scream!
I'm no longer a TLK/ Herc fan couse 3 movies I loved of Disney is too much!

I SAW MULAN!!!!!!!!!!
tehetehetehe!!!!!
It was great!!!! I loved it!!!!!!!
Now I'm an official Disney fan!
if I loooooove 3 movies out of the last 5, then something is terribly good
about that company!!!! Now onwards to my Mulan review:
some of the backgrounds were great, and some were... not...
I think Mulan is the very first feminist character on Disney. or was that
belle?
Whatever, the thing I loved about Mulan, was that she wasn't a "Don't call
me babe!"
Kinda feminist, she was really sweet. Mushu is great! much better then
Timon if you ask me.
The bad guy looked like that beast from beauty and the beast, really mean!
his horse was kinda like an oversized dog!
Mulan's horse was really cool. her dog was hilarious!
I loved it when her dad was preying to his ancestors, and the dog started
running around. that was brilliant!!!
I hated her mom, but her grandmother ruled! "Sign me up for the next war!"
LOL
something I thought I should mention, is that if your into that big heroin
hero kiss thing (or as on TLK, heroin hero nuzzle), forget Mulan. she just
invites him for dinner. how lame!
of course, in some cultures if a women offers a man water, it means they're
gonna get married. oh dear... (:
The theme sucked!!!!!! "be true to yourself, you have to, um...
blablablabla!"
how dumb. I hated it! I'm gonna buy the soundtrack anyway, though!
I never saw a movie in the theaters more then once before, but that's couse
I haven't seen a Disney movie in the cinema in over 5 years!!!!!! I'll see
Mulan more then once, you can be sure of that! it ruled! if you haven't
seen it, go now!!!!
I cant imagine seeing it on TV!!!!!!!!!!! moving picture rules!!!!!
Ahhhhh.............................. Mulan. great movie indeed.......
Erg, I cant seem to shack the feeling of the Disney loving thing....
I really want to get the soundtracks of TLK, herc, Mulan, hunchback (never
seen it, but its suppose to be musically amazing!), and beauty and the
beast.
I re-watched that movie, in english this time, and it totally rules. the
beast is a great character! he reminds me of my dog. he's so
adorable!!!!!!!! even when he's mad! no, especially when he's mad!
but when he turns human he starts to suck. yuck! he's so ugly!!!!!!! I
preferred him as the beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! B&tB rules!

well, I've been gone for 5 days so you can imagine the catching up I have
to do!
I'll respond to the messages tomorrow, key?

we are one


Jul 22 - 13:49

Lioness again

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Hmmm, thats wierd, not all of my entry was posted. Well the only thing that was left out was when I said that the lion head was on the front, I mean the one from TLKoB CD cover.Just to make myself clear on that :)
Oh well, Hakuna Matata!!


Jul 22 - 13:44

Lioness

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Nothin much here, but I went to the Disney Store Catalog Outlet and the only thing that interested me was a TLKoB t-shirt. It's black and has that lion head on the front It's only in kid sizes, but just thought I'd let you know.
Alexander- I really like that dream about getting SP early!!! :)
Oh ya, and I called The Disney Store to know what they have and the only new thing was the SP music box- they said it was 15 or 18 bucks.


Jul 22 - 13:41

jicin

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Scar's birthname is Taka.


Jul 22 - 13:36

Alexander

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Did anyone see "Timon and Pumbaa" on the Disney Channel today? It was the one where Zazu messed up the animal census (he didn't count himself) and gets fired. Edward Hibbert provided his voice in the cartoon (I looked at the credits). So if you've seen that cartoon, you know what Zazu is said to sound like in SP.


Jul 22 - 13:33

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
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Hey ya guys. I didn't put my e-mail address in this, cuz I think we had some vistors, but they didn't post anything, and now I'm getting e-mail that I DON'T want, so leave me alone you freaks. I don't reconize the addresses, so it's no one on the TLK-L. Now to another subject.

Ducky--Have you been into Ryan's site (off of this one) Read this essay that Brian wrote called Sex in the Lion King. Quite interesting it is. I brought it up cuz you were saying that Timon and Pumbaa aren't gay. There's no showing of it in the movie, but Brian's essay brought up some good points. Nathan Lane (we all know who he is) has even been quoted for saying that he felt Timon was a gay character. I have absolutely no problems with it if they are or if they aren't. No hard feelings?

KrazyKat--I've been having some SP dreams too. But I was in the movie as Nala. It was very interesting (now there's a choice word for this!). I know what it's like to have SP dreams, just as long as none of us die. I also agree with that really nice note about TKABlaster. We don't like nitpicking, it's a movie remember, a movie that we all love. Keep it that way. Besides, TKABlaster, do you think that I give a rat's *** (I did that for you Brian) if someone doesn't like you in a chat group. That's not mine, KrazyKat's, Kara's, or Kiaraholic #1's problem. (sorry to anyone I left out, that's a lot of you, but these are my mane {haha} people) Okay--I'm killing myself here, so I'm gonna go read some TLK-L fic.

Love always-(to those who deserve it!)

Nala


Jul 22 - 13:31

Zira

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Thanks elyse!


Jul 22 - 13:20

elyse

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Zira-- Simba, nala, & pumbaa with timon on his back are $8 each & kovu & kiara are $6 each
~elyse


Jul 22 - 13:15

Zira

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krazy kat,I didint exactly mean the lithograph was a still from the movie(sorry my mistake.) I meant the folder it came in.actully Im not shure if the folder cover is a still,but I agree with you they messed up simba BAD.can someone please tell me the cost of the sp seramic figures each???


Jul 22 - 13:09

elyse

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tkablaster- what is up with you & the visa thing???!!!??? to quote simba, "you're so weird". i'm not trying to be mean, but prozac may help. j/k.
krazykat- i know exactly what you mean. i think we all need to enter a tlkanonymous program or something. i guess it could be worse huh? i mean we could start eating grubs. **
~elyse \/


Jul 22 - 11:42

Krazy kat

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You know you just can't wait for SP when...
You begin to have SP dreams. Yes, I've had two SP dreams. I'm going to write them down because I have nothing better to do with my life.

SP Dream #1
"My Copy of SP"

Ahem, this dream was a few nights ago but i have already forgotten quite a many details. I'll describe as best fits my ability.

I was in Best Buy, (I dunno if any of you have any Best Buys near you but its a great AV store with great prices, MUCH better than the Disney store..) and i saw about 300 copies of SP on the shelf. (yes, they DO get that many often..keep in mind this is July too.)

Wow! I grabbed my cordless phone (Not a cell phone- one that's in my kitchen) from nowhere and called a number. It was all of you, like you were all in the same place together and I guess I was on Speaker Phone. I said, "Hey, Rumor Mill, they've got SP here, we don't have to wait for October now." Then you all ran down (I dont know how i knew it was all of you since i dont know what most of you look like and some of you are not even in the US...but you did.) the people that were in my dream from here: Beerit, Alexander, Christian, Nala, Lioness, Dara, Elyse and Ducky...hmm...aaaanyway, you all bought your copies and we did the Tango (Don't ask).

SP Dream #2
"The Upendi Horror"

This one's lastnight's.

I had a dream I was in some store (It wasnt hte Disney store although there were Disney Store products there) i picked up a number of Music Boxes, most of them Disney, but there was also The Wonder Years, Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley and Brady Bunch music boxes (I dont know why..) i looked at the bottom of them all and i noticed they were all marked "Tune: Upendi" and I started screaming. "It must not be from SP!! I just gave everyone A meaningless song!!" then I had some sort of a nervous breakdown..that's all I remember.

Prolly more to come.

A Disturbed,
Krazy Kat


Jul 22 - 11:32

TKABlaster
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Crap he has not a Visa card.


Jul 22 - 10:54

TKABlaster

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Alex, find me his real name and I could run uphis Visa bill :b


Jul 22 - 10:49

Alexander

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OK guys, I have a favor to ask you.

On the Animation Blast site (www.awn.com/blast) there is a TalkBack section where "your voice can be heard." Anyhow, some idiot by the name of "Uncle Gun" just said that Walt Disney was NOT an innovator and then he said that if Walt were to "thaw" (relating to the myth that he's frozen), Uncle Gun wishes he'd thaw to the consistency of strawberry yogurt.

Anyhow, this pissed me off big time!! Please go to www.awn.com/blast to the Talkback section, scroll down the page, and check out the posting "Blast" by Uncle Gun (my rather harsh reaction to his post follows).

If you guys like Disney, which you must a little to like TLK, please go respond to this windbag!!


Jul 22 - 10:47

Kuvo King Of Kings

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Hi all!


Jul 22 - 10:46

TKABlaster
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Still- wouldn't they notice Be Prepared? You can see the Outer Rim from Pride Rocks. What is Scar's real name? How did he get a scar? Waht about CYFTLT?


Jul 22 - 10:38

TKABlaster
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Don't get me wong: I love TLK. I'm just a perfecsionast i guess... ;)
Oh, and the bozo who posted the Sarafina Nala thing in MY name.... I got him good. His Visa bill showed a mysterious $150.87 charge on it! :-)


Jul 22 - 09:32

TKABlaster

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Kichebo: Death to my E-Mail Program!!! >:(


Jul 22 - 09:26

Krazy Kat

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Zira,
I honestly don't think that the lithos are stills from the movie. If they are I think we'll all be greatly dissapounted with SP! the litho is ok but it's nowhere near up to our standards. The Litho envelope is just...augh...ALL screwed up...first of all, Kovu has a scar over his eye. Now Kovu COULD get a scar in the movie but i doubt Disney would do this AGAIN. it would make SP seem like an old shoe.

Plus did anyone noticed that Simba and Nala match Mufasa and Sarabi's position on the TLK cover? And poor Simba- what did they DO to him on that envelope? He's half Simba half Mufasa! And they did Nala no justice either....poor guys...

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 22 - 09:24

elyse

Location: sacramento ca
E-mail: elysemize@lycosmail.com

good morning!! i went to the disney store last night & lo & behold they had new stuff. they had the ceramic figures. 5 of them (which i bought), simba, nala, kiara, pumbaa with timon on his back, & kovu. i wonder if they are going to have a ceramic zira???. they also had the kiara plushie, but no kovu, the pre-order litho & puppets, 3 different plastic cups, the music box, children's clothing, a purse and coin purse that i couldn't decide if it was nala or kiara (no tag), of course the beanies, but they also had teenie magnet beanies of pumbaa, simba & kiara, and a teenie beanie key chain of simba. needless to say, i wanted it all, but for now i only bought ceramics, i bought the frame last week. i think by august we might just be overwhelmed with merchandise. i can't wait!!! i wish october would just hurry up & get here!!!
~elyse


Jul 22 - 08:12

Zira

Location: NY
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Good morning!(well at least where I live its morning.)Alexander,Ill try to post some pictures somwhere for you to see and anyone else who wants to see them.I think the ending of sp might be like tlk,but when I got my lithograph, On the outside of the folder it came in it showed a still of the very end of the movie and all it showed was adult kiara and kovu standing side by side with simba and nala standing right behind them and rafiki was standing all the way in the back so I guess disney desided to do that so the ending would not be to much like the ending of tlk. I also got tickets to see the TLKoB.... NEXT YEAR!! isint that pethetic? ttfn


Jul 22 - 05:43

Christian (KH#1)

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Just wanted to add that I went looking through the archives of this good old rumor mill here and it was positively strange. Go see for yourself. Some people were thinking that SP would be released June 1997 in the theaters. Other strange things too. One person called themselves "Kara Hoholic" and it wasn't me (I can spell better than that). Someone else said that Kathleen Turner said she was going to sing a vicious lullaby in the movie, so that's not necessarily the title of the song. I think it was supposed to be sung by Zira to Kiara (don't quote me on that please) so it reminds me of Kaa the snake trying to put Mowgli into a trance. Also on the Magoo preview when Kovu says "I will avenge Scar" it almost looks like Zira is hypnotizing him, so SP might show Zira having hypnotic powers. Oh yeah, Jafar was another Disney hypnotist-villain.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Jul 22 - 01:56

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@LionKing.org

The spotlight, multicolered animals and the guysers I believe were susposed to be some kind of Imagantion of the sigers. Spot light Simba. Guysers Scar. It was in The Art Of The Lion King.
Read It, Its good.


Jul 21 - 21:42

Kichebo

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er...TKABlaster, it still came as a WAV file, and when i used my Picture It software to view the thing, it showed only text...... it's no big deal tho
:-)


Jul 21 - 21:05

Kara

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Geez TKA Blaster, you don't have to name all of Lion King's flaws! I mean, the point of an animated cartoon is to go free with your imagination and to get a point across. If it was down to earth, it just wouldn't be interesting! I wouldn't be dissing the Lion King intil you make your own animated movie! Instead of finding the bad parts of it, you should appreaciate it more, Disney didn't HAVE to make the movie! You have no right to come on a Lion King FAN site and point out all the things that you don't agree about, so just BACK OFF!! Sorry, I just got carried away. On another note, that Mulan sing along will be out out July 28th, next Tuesday. Sorry about the wrong dates, I guess I read the website wrong... I hope it shows more footage!!!!
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 21 - 20:33

Ducky

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TIMON AND PUMBAA ARE NOT GAY! HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT THERE IS NO ACTION IN THE MOVIE THAT WOULD SHOW THEY ARE GAY!!!

sorry, im alot calmer now. but really, who cares if the movie had flaws, i mean, its disney they dont care! they spent 4 years making that and if they thought the movie had bad flaws they would change it. plus, disney personifies alot of things in there movies but that makes them better! i mean, both iago and zazu had teeth, but no1 cares!


Jul 21 - 20:25

Krazy Kat

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Rafiki;
My spec on the ending is: (Although this may not happen we can never be sure) that The Outlanders and Simba's Pride come together and Kiara and Kovu are together. Eith 1.) Simba and Nala step down from the throne and Kiara and Kovu become queen and king, or 2.) Kiara and Kovu are the inheritors of the Pridelands but they are not king and queen at the end of the movie. (You know whut i mean? That they get to be together but theyre still prince and princess??) Well, all we can do is guess. Any other specs?

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 21 - 19:50

Rafiki
Predictionist
Location: Haven
E-mail: DPelzel495@aol.com

Okay here's the deal on SP's ending. Should it be like TLK'S ending where Simba becomes King and the Pridelands go back to normal. Or should we have a different ending? I mean I think we might want to start some speculation on SP's ending don't you think? We've got the storyline, the charater layout, and some pics and previews on the thing. But I've seen no speculation on the ending so far. So tell me, what kind of ending would you think SP is going to have.


Jul 21 - 19:28

TKABlaster
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What was Scar's real name? How did he get a scar?


Jul 21 - 18:04

Blue Lion

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Hollywood, according to Chronicles of the Pride Lands Taka got his scar when he crawled into a badger hole and got attacked by the badger


Jul 21 - 18:02

TKABlaster
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Crap that jerk.
Sorry. I have sort of an arch-enemy in this one chat-room. I annouced this address so I guess he decided to screw my good (?) name up.
Sorry.


Jul 21 - 17:27

TKABlaster

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I'm sorry. Some friends of mine told me they thought Sarafina was getting happy when she licked Nala but I don't believe them... :(

Not my idea.


Jul 21 - 17:05

krazy Kat

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TKABlaster,
I'd hate to be mean, but all your nitpicking is just ticking me off more and more!!!! ITS A CARTOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can we stress that enough? Disney's not going to show wounds throughout the whole movie or make Simba get splaterred all over the place during his exile. Maybe there were no hoofprints because if you had noticed; it was really dusty and when the dust settled it may have covered up the prints slightly, or Disney didn't feel it nessecary for them to put millions of hoofprints when no average kiddie viewer would notice that anyway. I don't mean to be harsh or nasty it's just getting slightly on my nerves..

Anyway...
i saw no point in pre ordering SP from the Disney store. Sure, it's SP but i refuse to pay 24 bucks for the movie, a weird looking litho and envelope and a puppet. I'd rather go to my local Best Buy and get the movie for 16 or even 14 dollars!

Ack! I sure hope my Disney Store comes out w/ the Kiara plushie and ceramic figures, etc. All we have right now are the beanies, the frame, and the music box.

I was watching the Mr Magoo preview, for the 3000th time, and then i watched the We Are One preview- for the 3000th time. I noticed in "We Are One" they portrayed Simba as his nice old self and very caring...but in the Mr Magoo trailer he seemed angry in every scene. (i.e "GET OUT!" "You were banished with the other outsiders" and when Kovu is following Simba Simba totally looks pissed...) They could have showed some nice Simba scenes in Mr Magoo, poor guy. Just a thought. No real point here. ;)

Umm...I have nithing else to say. Ta ta all.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 21 - 16:50

TKABlaster

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Also, hate to be a NITPICKER, but I frame-by-framed the scene where Simba was running on the desert, and one frame just happened to have a rather suspiciously placed clump of "fur." Sorry.


Jul 21 - 16:15

TKABlaster

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Kishebo: Krap. I have an annoying little virus on my computer where it occasionally sends to wrong file. I had played a wav. file while I pasted it to e-mail, and it struck. Sorry. I'll send again.


Jul 21 - 16:14

Kichebo

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TKABlaster -- you sent me a WAV file, not pics......
and f'godsakes, TLK is a cartoon! lets try not to be too nitpicky, eh? and i meant that in the nicest possible way :-)


Jul 21 - 16:03

Hollywood

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Does any one know how Taka got his scar???


Jul 21 - 15:57

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala413@hotmail.com

This computer is sooo slow, but I did manage to read a little bit. Ya know what--who cares about all the little flaws in TLK. Its a movie remember???? Sheesh. Some people take everything so far! Yatayatayata. Not much to say. I'm probably gonna reserve SP tomorrow, and see if I can find a Kovu plushie. I hope I can find one, or fur is gonna fly at the Disney Store! Lata!

Nala


Jul 21 - 15:52

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I know perfectly well they can't talk!!!


Jul 21 - 14:50

TKABlaster

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I mean, the waterfall after CYFTLT.


Jul 21 - 14:49

TKABlaster

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At last!!! I have proof SOMETHING happened during CYFTLT! Check the sky when it fades to Timon and Pumba when Simba and Nala are nuzzleing- then check it on the waterfall. There is at least ten minutes difference there!!!!
<:P


Jul 21 - 14:48

Alexander

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TKABlaster:

It is a cartoon! Real lions can't talk, either!

Zira, I for one would love to see the items you found! Can you post the pictures somewhere? Maybe on Beerit's site?


Jul 21 - 14:48

TKABlaster

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Some stuff:
* Lions have retractable front claws, and their back claws are always out. None of TLK characterd have back claws, and Scar can't retract his front ones.
* At beginning, when Rafreaky lifts Simba, Simba's eyes focus on the animals under him. At that young an age, lions can't focus their eyes at that far a distance. not for several weeks.
* When Simba chokes Scar- This is impossible, seeing as lions don't have opposable thumbs.
* The African chanter in "The Circle Of Life" at the beginning says "vigina" at least once. At the end, he says "buy Tylonal."
* With Scar's jaw- It seems to be de-hinged. At times, his lips go behind the jaw hinge!
* Lions can't move their fingers seperatly.
* Zazu should not have such a bendable beak!
* Sarafina has 4 lines in the movie: Hmm, what do you think, Sarabi?, (gasp), and she roars twice.
* Lions cannot shift their eyebrows.
* Zazu shouldn't have thumbs, either.
* Lions can't make faces, per sia- They don't lift their nose with their fingers, or wiggle their tongue, or squeeze their lips!
* Red elephants? Blue and purple monkeys and pachederms?
* There is no way many of the animals involved could have survived "I Just Can't Wait To Be King."
* There are many differences between the sound track and the movie.
* All characters move like they shouldn't.
* Hyena Head Gear?
* Wouldn't the lions have noticed that the Outer Rim had exploded in fireworks, singing, and earth-shifting?
* Zazu should have remembered Scar's punch.
* Gorge should have had hoof-prints.
* What is Scar's real name? He couldn't have been born Scar.
* Bonzia instanly losses his thorns.
* That fall during his exile would've killed Simba.
* On the plain after his exile, right after the thorns, he was moving way too fast.
* When the hyenas shouted at him, where did the echo come from?
* Hyenas don't have thumbs, either, and can't hold bones.
* How in the world could Scar control the lights/ geysers/ gasses/ crevises during "Be Prepared?"
* In "Hakuna Matata," where did the spotlight come from?
* How could Simba grow up healthy on three years of bugs?
* Zazu has very flexible wings.
* Wounds seem to vanish instanly!
* Nala says Simbas not brave. He saved her life like thrice.
* Are Timon and Pumba gay or something?
* When Pumba carries Simba, Simba's back gets real thin.
More later!


Jul 21 - 14:43

Zira

Location: NY
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no its not the bean bag,its a jumbo stuffed kovu and actully I Think its applause,you can find tons of sp stuff at this place called cartoon land. Ok its official,that cub on the picture frame is vitani,so now we dont need to argue anymore! if anyone wants any pictures of the sp applause stuff I found Just ask. o and I just went and listened to the uphendi tune and I didint have any trouble downloading it. TTFN!


Jul 21 - 14:04

Alexander

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Zira, I promise I'm not just telling you a story: the cub next to Kovu on that frame is, without a doubt, undeniably Vitani!! I have seen that frame at the Disney Store. She is at a different angle on that frame than she is on the picture of her on the Vitani Mattel bean bag tag. It is Vitani!!!

I haven't seen the Kovu plush toy you are talking about. It is not the bean bag, right? I have only seen the Kiara plush, not a Kovu.


Jul 21 - 13:48

Zira

Location: NY
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hello again! um about that kovu plush,yes I did buy it. The thing that got my attention whas the tuff of hair on his head (thats my favorit thing about him). (Im a big kovu fan) and about that pictur frame are you guys shure its vitani??? has anyone else seen the picture frame or is it just from what Ive said? and another thing that cub next to kovu (suppositly vitani)the way shes looking at kovu,can she possibly be friends with kovu? I mean she has this look on her face like shes evil, or yet maybe she could be vitani because she looks sort of sly,hmmm..


Jul 21 - 13:37

Alexander

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Hollywood, I have not seen any plastic TLK2 figures anywhere yet. The only figures I've seen are the ceramic ones at the Disney Store.

Applause will have some TLK2 merchandise, but I have not seen any of it yet. I'm not sure which stores carry a good supply of Applause merchandise. The only stores I can think of are SunCoast and Books A Million, and neither has anything relating to the Lion king yet.

Yes, you can pre-order SP at Blockbuster.

About the "sex" in The Lion King: I really don't know if it is there or not, but I could care less. So what if it is there? Sex is part of the circle of life! It seems sad to me that those religious groups are so anal about what appears in Disney cartoons. I do not believe that watching The Lion King will make children go have sex! Those religious watchdog groups need to get a life!


Jul 21 - 13:04

TKABlaster

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I sent those pics, Kichebo (?).


Jul 21 - 12:25

TKABlaster

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Sex is too in the dust! After he slams himself down, still frame. It will form the word sex!


Jul 21 - 12:17

Krazy Kat

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E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Hello all,
Christian, I d/led my Upendi tune from your site (Gives you an idea as to how bored i was...) and it worked all right for me. Cold Dragon, maybe something's wrong with your wav player? Or it could even be your modem. My modem gets screwy sometimes (Like trying to d/l the Mr Magoo SP trailer 10 times on diff sites and only getting 25%, i speak from experience..) and you should sign off, let the modem cool, and try to d/l again to see if that works. If that doesnt just drop me a line and when i get back on my other comp. w/ Upendi I'll send it to ya.

ta ta all,
Krazy Kat


Jul 21 - 12:04

Christian (KH#1)

Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Hi Everyone,


Cold Dragon just mentioned that he (she?) had trouble getting the "Upendi" music box wav file to work. If anyone else has trouble let me know. What you could try doing Cold Dragon is having Krazy Kat e-mail it directly to you and see if that works. I see that you don't have an e-mail address listed and that's one of the reasons I put it on my site: for people with no e-mail. Of course, if you're able to go to the rumor mill then you would also be able to start a free internet e-mail account from Yahoo or Geocities or Hotmail or Excite, etc.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Jul 21 - 11:30

Dara

Location:
E-mail: m082890@home.vu.nl

Thanks Lioness!!!! That's really neat!!
mmmm.... now where could you send it to?

How large is the pic?? If it's less then 65kb you could send it to my e-mail adress (above).
Save it as an JPEG-file and if it's still too much try to make the pic smaller. If it's larger I'm afraid my e-mail server will crash!
I understand Brian can't take it to his site.

Hope it will work! Thanks for helping me!

Bye!!!

Dara

p.s. I received my TLKoB CD!! that's quick! Within a week!! The music sound even more wonderfull than on a (copied) tape... I'm listening to it right now.


Jul 21 - 11:00

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland,USA
E-mail:

Christian
I went to your sight to try and down load Upendi.
Three times my modem stoped in the middle, and finally when I did get it down loaded it would not play. My guess is that it is my computer but I thought I would mention it just incase it's your computer's problem.


Jul 21 - 09:32

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland, USA
E-mail:

On the whole Disney's habit of dirt stuff in there movies

There are plent examples of these things in other Disney movies. The original cover of The Little Mermaid had male genital in it. In Aladin if you turn up the sound at a certon part Aladin says to Jasmin to undress ( to put it nicely). The worst example is that is you watch Who Framed Rodger Rabbit frame by frame Jessica Rabbit is nude at times.

I have never been able to see the Sex in the dust in TLK. Back when I had time I watched the whole movie frame by frame. There was some stuff you miss if you see it in regular time, but nothing dirty.

Just a few comments :)


Jul 21 - 09:14

Lioness

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Hello all!

Well, I dont think the word "sex" is in the dust, and I agree that its probably SFX if there really IS anything. I dont believe that Disney would put that in their movies either!

Anyways, Dara- I drew a pic of the 3 young hyenas holding Zazu close to the Birdie Boiler. Banzai doesnt look as cute as he does in the book, I must admit, but its pretty close. Where should I send it to? Brian doesnt take pics that have been drawn from from a pose already made, and its not SP, so....


Jul 21 - 06:13

Christian (KH#1)
GSI
Location: 10 miles away from Disneyland
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Sorry Krazy Kat,


I was in too much of a hurry typing that last entry to be non-gender specific. I guess that has happened a lot here. Heck, it even happens to Kiara. Everyone thought she was a boy when she was born. Thanks for the wav file!


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Jul 21 - 01:03

Cold Dragon

Location: Maryland,USA
E-mail:

Long time no post
My modem crashed once again, and then my Dad/my schedule would not let me get time on here. Oh well life goes on.

Here is my latest nugget of joy

I think that Kiara runs off to the outlands, mets Kovu. Then the scean with Zira roaring at Simba takes place.... Anyway I think that leads into the We Are One song. I am guessing this from Simba saying "as future queen you have to be carefull......" This might be a general warning, but for the flow of the story I don't think so.

Anyway I don't think this is a good thing as far as plot is concerned. This is way to much like TLK. Simba going somewhere he should not and then getting a heart felt talk with Mufasa. The sceans are too similar for my comfort.

I am really hoping this is not just going to be the same story reshaped slightly, but this makes me wonder.
Here is hoping that I am wrong

Just a few of my pesamistic thoughts :)


Jul 20 - 21:13

Krazy Kat

Location:
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Ahh! Christian, we're starting on the gender stuff again! Just to let you all know, I'm a female, gal, girl, fille, etc. Not a guy as Christian said- but maybe that was just a slight typo. ;) No new info here. ;)

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 20 - 20:44

KH#1 (Me Again)

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Krazy Kat e-mailed his wav recording of the Upendi music box playing and I just added it to my website. It can be found as the last selection in the "Sounds" section.


Christian


Kiara's Sahifa (Home Page)

Jul 20 - 19:34

Christian (KH#1)
Security Officer/Student/Research Assistant
Location: OC
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

I've never seen SEX in the dust with the video playing even when I'm trying to find it. I did see a freeze-frame on some website and it sort of looked like it. I heard (rumor maybe; good place for one here though) that Disney said it really was SFX as in special effects. If it really does say SEX then there's different explanations for it. Probably just one of the peon artists throwing it in and the big execs never knew about it until some watchdog groups had a cow about it. I'm all for responsibility in sexual matters (should even be reserved 'til after marriage IMHO; uh oh . . . I think I see some controversy developing here), but I never heard any parents complaining that their kids went sex-crazy after watching The Lion King so i don't really care if it does say SEX in the dust.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Jul 20 - 19:29

Hollywood

Location: Hollywood, CA
E-mail: Lt_Hollywood@yahoo.com

What's all this crap about sex in the dust? IT'S THERE!!!! It's not hard to miss. Disney has a reputation for that junk. In Aladin and the The Little Mermaid you find that crap also. Disney either likes to do that or there clean up animaters are blind. I for one do care if they put that in a movie or not. The intended watchers of the movie most likely can't even read! SO WHO CARES IF DISNEY LIKE TO HAVE FUN WITH THERE MOVIES!!!!!!
From:
a very annoyed Hollywood

PS
Almost every word up there is miss spelled!!!


Jul 20 - 19:21

Hollywood

Location: Hollywood, CA
E-mail: Lt_Hollywood@yahoo.com

What's all this crap about sex in the dust? IT'S THERE!!!! It's not hard to miss. Disney has a reputation for that junk. In Aladin and the The Little Mermaid you find that crap also. Disney either likes to do that or there clean up animaters are blind. I for one do care if they put that in a movie or not. The intended watchers of the movie most likely can't even read! SO WHO CARES IF DISNEY LIKE TO HAVE FUN WITH THERE MOVIES!!!!!!
From:
a very annoyed Hollywood


Jul 20 - 19:20

Hollywood

Location: Hollywood, CA
E-mail: Lt_Hollywood@yahoo.com

To the people (and animals) of the Rumour Mill:
(I'm not going to stop with this untill I get an answer!!) Are the plastic TLK2 figures out yet???? If so how much do they cost??? Where can you get em??? And is it true that TLK2 is out for pre sale at blockbuster(I'm to lazy to go and see)??? Oh, and what the hell is the Disney Catalog?!?!?!? Well got to go.
From:
Hollywood


Jul 20 - 19:15

Krazy Kat

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Agh! You people are driving me crazy with ol' Saffi being in SP!! If she is she will and if she's not she's not! Just deal with it!

John Doe,(TKABlaster)
I have myt doubts about that "Sex" in the dust. I remember reading someplace that the dust was CGI? But I'm not too sure. i have never believed that rumor and I don't see anything even when I look for it. And what animator with no life would take their time to put that there anyway? And if you DO see it w/out being told it's there and having to tilt your head sideways or whatever; I think you would need some help. IMHO, It's NOT there. Chris, Beerit, Christian, Lioness? You guys have opinions on this subjects?

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 20 - 18:08

Alexander

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Zira, YES, that IS Vitani on the picture frame.


Jul 20 - 17:34

Kichebo

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E-mail: Nuka311@aol.com


the snow globe cost $55 (w/out the Magic Kingdom Club discount)....i ended up buying both the Kovu ($6) and adult Simba ($8) ceramic figures.....

Zira, that is indeed Vitani on the picture frame, and she does have the signature "bowl cut" as some folks here like to call it ;-) it is just less pronounced because she is facing forward...

By the way, I would like to disagree w/ anyone who believes that Vitani is looking at Kovu seductively on that frame....1) she isnt looking right at him and 2) she looks more scheming than seductive, ya know?

I thought the Upendi tune was kinda catchy, if you can tell anything from a music box anyways....

TKABlaster, if you are for real, i would love to get some SP pics, feel free to email the address above.....

BTW Zira, you mentioned a Kovu plush...did you buy it? What did it look like? It wasn't the "purring Kovu" plush made by Mattel, was it?


Jul 20 - 17:32

TKABlaster

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In TLK where Simba makes the word sex with the dust? I think that was intentional. (?) Animators have done all kinds of crap- in Pocohantos 1, there was going to be a frame where Pocohantos squeezed Smiths hand real hard, making him scream. They took it out.


Jul 20 - 15:55

Lioness

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The "Friends in Need" book will be about &1.50- 2.50. I got it for 1.45, but it might be higher elsewhere. I've seen it at Barnse & Noble (sp?) and at different discount book stores.
Dara-
I drew a pic of the young hyenas walking little Zazu to the Birdie Boiler, but do you know where I can send it to?


Jul 20 - 15:44

TKABlaster

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Christian: It's a big file, so don't worry if it takes a while. Thanks.


Jul 20 - 15:41

Christian (KH#1)

Location:
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

TKABlaster,


Please e-mail me the pics and I'll try to get them ASAP for all of us TLK/SP fans. My e-mail address is up there.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Jul 20 - 15:34

TKABlaster

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I found a cast list:
Sarabi is in. I'm not sure of Sarafina. I asked Disney- they don't seem to know Sarafina's name themselves!


Jul 20 - 15:34

TKABlaster

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Anyone know a nice SP page where I can post my 264 pictures?


Jul 20 - 15:29

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello Folks,

I hate to have to say this, again, but the general film going public don't know or care about Sarafina, they have no idea who she is. Putting her in SP doesn't make a lot of sense - she simply isn't a well-enough defined character to make it worthwhile. I'll say it again - yes, those could be Sarabi, Sarafina and Nala, or Kiara, or whoever. Wanting it to be Sarafina doesn't mean it will be her...

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 20 - 15:25

TKABlaster

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Ew. I just searched for "Lion King" and on page 13 or something was a page about people who like the lion king characters... and I mean REALLY like!!! :P


Jul 20 - 15:20

Zira

Location: NY
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Its not vitani because the the lioness cub on the picture frame didint have a tuff of hair on her head, and vitani does!


Jul 20 - 15:17

TKABlaster

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Cause I don't feel like it, or know any frequently visited SP site anyone I know goes to!


Jul 20 - 15:16

Snowy

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TKABlaster:
If the pics are TLK/SP related (I'd imagine they would be or why mention them here?) why not just send them to someone's site to get em out of your computer? That way we all can see them.

Just a thought. Bye.


Jul 20 - 15:06

TKABlaster is bizarrly annoyed.

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Jul 20 - 14:56

TKABlaster

Location:
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Look. I work for the CIA. I can ruin your life.
Someone take these $&%*$ pictures before my computer crashes from a lack of memory!


Jul 20 - 14:53

Alexander

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Zira, that is Vitani on the frame sitting next to Kovu.


Jul 20 - 14:50

Zira (again)

Location: NY
E-mail:

o and kara Ill try to get some pictures for you to see,and Is it it possible to post pictures on the rumor mill?


Jul 20 - 14:49

TKABlaster

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Get em now, cause I have a small hard drive.


Jul 20 - 14:48

TKABlaster

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Pictures, anyone?


Jul 20 - 14:46

Zira

Location: NY
E-mail:

ok heres the list of sp stuff I got.......... a sp picture frame a kovu mug a larg sized stuffed kiara and kovu. medium kiara and kovu bean bags. small kiara and kovu bean bags. a kiara and kovu music box that plays the song Upendi from the movie sp. a mini kiara coin holder. a kiara hand puppet a picture (lithograph) of kiara and kovu. a kiara and kovu bank,and I pre-ordered simbas pride. (just a thought) on the picture frame I got it has most of the sp charicters all around the rimm, and on the top it shows kovu sitting next to this lioness cub that looks really evil, and it certinly not kiara because kiara is sitting on the bottom with her father simba! so I was just wondering who could that evil lioness cub be? its certinly NOT Kovu's mother Zira!


Jul 20 - 14:44

Kara

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I just got back from the Disney store, and I talked to the people that worked there. They said that Kovu was NOT going to be Scar's son and that all the original voices were coming back. Even Zazu, they said. They were telling me that they had papers in the back that had the entire cast and that they saw previews of the movie every 3 monthes and that it looked like a very good movie. I was so jealous... but I gues it doesn't matter. Zira, I would like to see the pictures of the merchandise, could you post them somewhere on the net?
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 20 - 14:38

Snowy

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Swyftt:
I got my "Friends in Need" at a Long's Drug Store (mind you, those are legal drugs :) awhile ago. I have since seen it many times and, to my knowledge, it should still be available. As to the cost, I don't feel like checking it (it's downstairs in my bedroom), but I'm practically positive that it is less than $5 (I think somewhere around $3). Good luck.

Just for the hey of it, I'm going to through in my $0.02 about Sarafina and such being in SP. Based on that clip of the three lionesses following Zazu, T&P, I'm inclined to think that the darker one is probably Sarabi (aside from Nala, who else would lead lionesses that appear to be from Simba's own pride), the lioness next to her is probably Sarafina (heavy build like the first lioness and when compared in color w/the third lioness and pics of Nala from SP, the second's a bit darker and Sarafina was darker (not by much, but darker none the less) than her daughter). The third lioness is probably Nala since the markings are the same and so is the coloring when compared to other pics of her. Of course this is open for debate, but if they are lionesses from Simba's pride, just nameless ones, it stands to reason that at one of them is probably Sarafina and another is Sarabi. (Remember how, even though Sarafina only got one line, she could be recognized visually in a few other scenes, the same might be true in SP for both Sarafina and Sarabi: we see them but we might not hear them.)

I guess I'll stop rambling now....Hakuna Matata!


Jul 20 - 14:37

TKABlaster

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Hey-
I have an amazing cache of SP pictures, large & small, I'd share 'em all!
Just post your e-mail and say ya want em, you got em. Don't reply, please.


Jul 20 - 14:31

TKABlaster

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Something I found on the Web:

The plot of Simba's Pride has been in almost constant revision since rumours of a Lion King sequel began bouncing around in 1995. Originally the story centered on Simba's cubs--his son Chaka and daughter Shani--and his coming to terms with them growing up. Later, the focus of the story changed to Shani and her boyfriend Kovu; Chaka became an extraneous character and was written out of subsequent drafts of the script. It was revealed that Kovu was the son of Simba's murderous arch-nemesis Scar; the fact that Shani was in love with Scar's offspring, and that as such the next king of the Pride Lands would be of Scar's get, would be understandably difficult for Simba to accept, and this conflict was to be the main thrust of the story.

The plot, and character names, changed once again; Kovu became Nunka, a conniving villain who was to seduce the princess Aisha in order to gain control of the throne he believes was stolen from Scar by Simba. (It is now known that Nunka is actually Nuka, a cub who is apparantly from the same pride as Kovu but probably not connected with Simba or Simba's daughter in any significant way.)

Another story revision takes us back closer to the first plot in which Simba's little girl--now called Kiara--and Kovu are in love with each other. However, Kovu was reared by Scar's widow, Zira, to infiltrate Simba's pride and take over the throne one day. Kovu therefore starts out as a villain (or at least a villain-in-training), but becomes a good guy when he befriends Kiara.

Some other, somewhat more outrageous rumours have been flying too: that Sarabi will either die during the film or simply be written out of the story; that Simba will be killed in a climactic battle with Scar's pride; that Timon, Pumbaa and Zazu will all get girlfriends. Mufasa is also said to make a ghost--er, guest appearance.

Finally, one rumour stated that Simba will have two daughters: the older adolescent Kiara and her little sister, Shani. Most likely the 'two daughters' theory is a misinterpretation of the fact that two voice actresses will portray Kiara--one as a cub, the other as an adult. This, like all other rumours, is open to interpretation; we'll probably never know all the facts for sure until the video comes out in October.

Think about it.


Jul 20 - 14:25

Swyftt

Location: Texas
E-mail: hover@tisd.net

Can you still buy Friends in Need? If so, where and how much?


Jul 20 - 14:03

KH#1

Location:
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

Zira,


Could you list all the SP items you saw because I only know of about 5-6. Thanks.


Christian (KH#1)


Jul 20 - 13:24

elyse

Location: sacramento, ca
E-mail: elysemize@lycosmail.com

hello. well i'm back frm my weekend @ disneyland where tlk & sp might as well be non-existant. the only sp items they had were the beanies & for tlk there were 4 plushies pumbaa, timon, rafiki, & timon, a snowglobe of simba,timon & pumbaa on the log & a small photo album with pumbaa & timon. i was soooo disappointed. everything was pooh, pooh, pooh, & of course mickey & the gang which is fine because without mickey there would be no disney. i guess i was just expecting a few more sp items. oh well, there's always the disney store. other than the merchandise dissapointment it was a very nice day & the lines for the rides weren't very long at all.
~elyse


Jul 20 - 13:23

Rafiki

Location: Haven
E-mail: DPelzel@aol.com

Okay let's get one thing straight. Sarabi is NOT going to appear in TLK:SP! Kovu turns out (don't ask me how) not to be Scar's son. Now how many other male lions could Zira mate with out in the Outlands? It seems to me the males are very limited in TLK. But that doesn't mean that they aren't there. They just aren't shown. And if a third film does come around lets see how many male lions there are in that film and compare them to the last two.


Jul 20 - 13:18

Zira

Location: NY
E-mail:

hello. I just went on vacation and I went to the disney store and pre-ordered simbas pride.It also comes with a kiara puppet and a lithograph.I also found ALOTE of simbas pride toys,exactly 12 items. If anyone wants me to share with them what all of the sp stuff is Ill be glade to share. I might even be able to send people photos of some of the things I found. If anyone wants A picture just ask on the rumor mill! see ya!!!!!!


Jul 20 - 12:52

Dara (again)

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For anybody who's interested...

I received an e-mail from Disney Theatrical Productions. I asked them when TLKoB would come to Europe...

Good news! That would be mid 1999, in London!!

Bye!!

Dara *being happy*


Jul 20 - 12:25

Dara

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Thanks Lioness, that would be great!

Rafiki, that's a neat story! I didn't know it exist. But it sounds like a prequel to TLK.
TLK is Disney's best movie and will always be!
I've seen all Disney's movies except 2 maybe 3.
There never was a better story than TLK BEFORE (although I like numerous stories because they are favorite childhood movies!), and I never saw a Disney movie better than TLK AFTER it. I've never ever felt so much for a movie. No wonder it's on the 5th place of worlds greatest movies!! I saw it 4 times in cinema!!

See ya!!!

Dara


Jul 20 - 12:21

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Nala, IMDB eh? Sorry, but you'll have to get more evidence than that - indeed more than webpages can provide. IMDB is NOT a reliable, nor authoritative source. It gave the year of SP's release as 1997 until I changed it! How about trying to get something from a Disney source, and no, DS cast members are not particularly reliable either, for a start they cannot agree, as we've found out.
It could be that those three (yes, Beerit, I know there *could* possibly be more) lionesses following T&P *could* include Sarabi and Sarafina, but I have a lot of doubts about that.

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 20 - 12:02

Christian (KH#1)

Location:
E-mail: kiara@lionking.org

A few more scattered thoughts: I think it was alright for that one review to say that Mulan was Disney's greatest achievement since TLK because its just saying that Mulan is better than Pocahontas, Hunchback, and Hercules. If you think about the wording of that review it isn't saying that Mulan is as good as or better than TLK. I liked Mulan (I refused to pay money to see Godzilla and Armageddon) but it clearly is not as good as TLK. I think part of the magic of TLK is that it is completely untouched by human characters. Even Bambi has the hunters in it. The picture of all the animals gathered around Pride Rock is almost archetypal, like the Noah and the Ark story. I look at that picture and it seems like it comes from a story that could have been around much longer than 4 years. There's something very timeless about it. Alos, it seemed pretty obvious to me that a lot more was going on during CYFTLT than meets the eye. Do I need to point out the specific spot? I think we all know what I'm talking about. If not, maybe your parents will have to have a birds and the bees chat with you. Peace and love to everyone.


Kiara-holic #1 (CMZ)


Jul 20 - 11:36

Laurie

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Rafiki, I don't know about having a trilogy- seems like by the third one all our favorite characters would be dead. Unless it was a prequel. But I still do think TLK is Disney's all time best, at least to me. It's the only movie I've never tired of, which is amazing. I can't quite figure out what it is, but there is definately something very unique and magical about it, and it's really quite unlike any other Disney movie.


Jul 20 - 10:30

TKABlaster

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Great. First time I use my name and I misspell it.
That's TKABlaster. Oops.


Jul 20 - 09:16

TAKBlaster (formerly John Doe)

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So Simba might have married and had children with either his coisen or sister.
Huh.


Jul 20 - 09:14

John Doe

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Nala: Ok, ok- on the web I'm called TKABlaster for God knows what reason.
But here's something: Both Simba and Kiara, when Rafreaky holds them up, have colored, open eyes. Lions don't get color in their eyes, except for blue, for several months.
In Hakuna Matata, Timon files down one of Simba's claws. Impossible. This would have hit the quick and caused him to bleed all over the place.
Towards the end, when the charred pride land turns green?... that took about 4 or 5 months- for the rainy season to come and go. That is about the gestation period of an average lioness. So Simba and Nala must have coupalated (big word here) around the time they first meet. What exactly happened during "Can You Feel The Love Tonight" anyway?
And, about Scar loyal lionesses- all the lionesses attacked the hyenas and they all roared at Simba at the end.
Huh.


Jul 20 - 09:13

Nala
Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Nala413@hotmail.com

It sure has been a LONG time since I've been here! I'm not even on this list (until now!)

Chris--you wanted proof that Sarafina and Sarabi are in SP, well here it is. They are both listed as characters on the list of actors, to be played by Zoe Leader. Its under the Internet Movie DataBase. :)

Rafiki--when I saw TLK, I was in a town that consisted of 1000 people (give or take). It was a two room movie theater, and it only played one movie at a time. It was Friday, and guess what: everyone in the town showed up to see it. People were STANDING in the theater to see it. (Of course, I already knew half the story) It was interesting, I missed half of it cuz of all the hicks talking, and had to see it 4 more times to get all of it into memory.

Hey--this reminds me of something. I fanybody here has seen TLKoB, can you please let me know if there is a book that contains the entire script? They had one for phantom, and I can't remember if there was one for Beauty...(which I didn't like)

Who is this John Doe that keeps showing up? It's driving me insane. Why do we have to know who Nala's father is anyway???? What if it's Scar??? Ooooh! Simba married his evil cousin....yea right. (with my luck, it's true)

Enough for now, about the SP stuff at DS. Ya know, I was just there, Friday (I think) and there was nothing! (except for the picture holder thing) Talk about something sucking! I guess I'll have to go to the bigger DS, I wonder...how soon I can get a Magic Kingdom Club Card, I'm a member, or so I've been told...oh well, enough spam already. Whenever you get sick of me, lemme know. Simba already knows to tell me to shut up. Don't you love?? Where'd you go??

Bye guys!

Nala


Jul 20 - 08:16

the Panther

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Plus, three is a symbol of luck, and mystery. it is said to have great powers,, and more


Jul 20 - 07:52

the Panther
student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahoo.com

Rafiki: yes, TLK will be the gratest film forever, even if disney has said that about all the movies when they come out, (havent seen even one exeption yet). Maybe it will be a trilogy, you cant include just two points in a circle, three looks better, and its all about the circle of life, right? am i making any sence here???
well, thanks anyway

the Panther


Jul 20 - 07:50

Rafiki

Location: Haven
E-mail: DPelzel495@aol.com

Hey TLK: SP fans I've been thinking, after the TLK: SP comes out don't you think their should be a third film? The Lion King 3 anyone? This time around come out in theaters? Say Tenth Aniveresary? People let me know your thoughts on this, after we all see how TLK: SP ends let's hassle Disney into making The Lion King Triology. Hey if you think about it this The Lion King has just about topped every Disney film yet, and even Mulan not taking as much credit as TLK as they said that Mulan was there greatest Masterpice since the Lion King and people that is not true. Let's face it, TLK will now and always be Disney's number one animated film of all time. Plus just when you the previews for TLK didn't you think that all the elements of the film such as the music, the art, and everything else draw you into the film and made you feel things that you thought you would never expierence? IF ANY OF YOU FANS THINK THAT TLK WILL ALWAYS BE DISNEY'S NUMBER ONE ANIMATED FILM GIVE ME YOUR RESPONCE AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF THIS FILM FOR WHAT IT REALLY MEANS!!

RAFIKI (PANTING)


Jul 19 - 22:23

Rafiki
Shamon
Location: Haven
E-mail:

Dara the book "Friends in Need" focuses around Mufusa as a Lion in his prime (just before his excile to throne), and Zazu the same kind of bird he is before he becomes Mufusa's majordommo. The hyenia's appear at the begining treatening Zazu's life with the "birdy boiler" but Mufusa interviens just before and save's Zazu's life and for saving his life Zazu pledges his service to Mufusa, but he doesn't see how Zazu could be of service to him.


Jul 19 - 22:01

Jenna

Location: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/4569/
E-mail: Jenna591@hotmail.com

I went to my local..okay maybe not so local disney store today. The closest one is 45 minutes away :( Anyway, I saw nothing SP related except for a Kiara beanie. I was broke. ALso, if anyone happens to get those Lady and the Tramp Lithographs, can you scan them for me?


Jul 19 - 21:18

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail:

sorry, john doe i thought they were born w/ their eyes open because i read that in numerous places over the net.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 19 - 18:20

John Doe

Location:
E-mail:

And- I'll cut the seperate message crap- I think Nala means "Mate", or some crap like that.





Blah.


Jul 19 - 18:20

John Doe

Location:
E-mail:

And, Krazy Kat, Lion cubs take 4 or 5 days to open eyes. Trust me. For some jacked reason "Born Free" was required reading in 11th grade at my dumb dorky school.


Jul 19 - 18:16

John Doe

Location:
E-mail:

On my 16th birthday- 9/29, one year after TLK came out, my grandparents got me a cute cake with young Nala and Simba on it. With "Made in China" branded on their butts.


Jul 19 - 18:13

John Doe

Location:
E-mail:

Yeah about Nala's father.... But still, with lions and all, Nala's mother might have found Mufasa atractive......;)


Jul 19 - 18:05

Timon's Girlfriend Nandi

Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: DaMish86@aol.com

Hey! R there any Timonaholics here!?? I hope there are, cause of course I like anyone who loves my husband.Isn't he dreamy.....? Oh well I'm getting off the subject. What does Upendi sound like? Could someone E mail me the sound? Thanx. Well I have to go and give our little meerkats a Hakuna Matata lesson so they grow up as wonderfully as FluffyPuff -er- I mean Timon did!


Jul 19 - 17:46

Alexander

Location:
E-mail:

Finally got to see The Disney Store's new SP stuff. The only thing I got was the ceramic figure of Kovu ($6). The snowglobe is pretty neat, though maybe a little "busy." I didn't even check to see how much it was. Anyone know?
I wonder if the animals on the snowglobe are in the movie? They look kind of like the animals in the "Just Can't Wait to be King" section of TLK.

The music box looks pretty cheesy, but then again the Disney Store has cheesy music boxes for a number of other films (I saw one for Beauty and the Beast when I was there). The Kiara plush looks nice. I was really looking for a SP book, but no luck finding one yet. Again, the only thing I got was the Kovu figure (pretty nice!).

While I didn't buy much of anything at the Disney Store, I made out like a bandit at the Warner Brothers Store, which is having a summer sale-------I love the Looney Tunes. If you have the slightest interest in them too, it may be worth your while to check out your local WB store.
(Sorry that didn't relate to TLK).


Jul 19 - 17:22

Lioness

Location:
E-mail:

Dara-
I cant scan the book in with the type of scanner I have :( But I'll try to draw it and then send it in ok? But maybe I'll think of something...


Jul 19 - 16:50

Jenna

Location:
E-mail: jenna591@hotmail.com

I don't have a scanner and I don't know of a place with a scanner


Jul 19 - 16:37

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

Hello!!

Lioness and Kiara what is that about the book "Friends in need"?? It sounds great!!!!!
couldn't you guys scan the pics of little mufasa and (especially) the young hyena's??? And then send it to Brian's site or some other or put it on a server???

*PLEEEEEAAAAAAZZZZZZZZEEEEE???!!!!*

I always wanted to know what the young characters of TLK would look like!!! I'm so curious!!

Bye!!!

Dara


Jul 19 - 16:18

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello All,

I'm sorry, but though it's possible, I really cannot see Sarafina appearing in SP *at all*. About the only reason for her appearing in TLK was so that we could see that Nala was NOT Sarabi's cub. Ok, so it is still possible that she will appear, but I really have serious doubts about this, it simply isn't credible to me that a very minor character in TLK will suddenly become important in SP. It's looking almost certain that Sarabi won't be in SP, so should why Sarafina - whom no ordinary TLK watcher can even name? Then again, if someone can produce some evidence to back up such a claim then I'll gladly admit I was wrong.

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 19 - 14:58

Rafiki
Shamon
Location: Haven
E-mail:

I have to say that I'm sorry but I think one of the
confirmed rumores I posted just might not be true but there is a pretty good chance that I might be right! It's the one about Sarafina having more then one line, I can't remember which site I got the confimered rumores, but I assure all of you most of them are confirmed and will be seen in the film. Now back to Sarafina, in the first film, we had Sarafina have one solotary line out of the WHOLE picture, but I'm sure that's changed
because now we have most of us are wondering who the hell Nala's father is. I don't want to get into that but I'm sure it was because of that we'll be able to see more of Sarafina. The second reason is that we've got a more complex storyline for TLK:SP then in the last film, and with Kiara we'll be seeing more of Sarafina. And picture this if Disney just had a repeat of Sarafina saying only one line, we would be left in speculation forever, and how would you view the company for doing the same thing over again. Now if your thinking that TLK:SP is going to be better then the last one, hold on, I really don't know if this new film will make the cut like the last movie. When I saw it at the movie theaters THERE WERE LINES OUTSIDE!!!
This is direct to video so sales might not be as big as the last film brought in. Now if your tired of reading this like I am just go to something else and I'll continue later.


Jul 19 - 14:28

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Hey! A couple of years ago I bought that Friends in Need book, and yes, its cute!


Jul 19 - 14:16

Lioness

Location:
E-mail:

HI everyone! Just got back from a 5 day trip and look at this place! its packed!
anyways- Jenna-I have that book to, and I agree with you! Even the young hyenas look cute! :)
well, I'm also glad that Sarafina will have more then 1 line, but Sarabi!! I wish she had a bigger part in SP!
Wow! The merchandise is really rolling in, huh? (good thing my birthday is a few months away!) I gotta call the Disney Store and see if they have anything yet!
I heard the "Upendi" song (that Krazy Kat sent me- thank you!) and it sounds pretty good!! I wonder who's gonna be singing...
Oh well, nothin much here so I better go...
Hakuna Matata everyone!


Jul 19 - 06:48

Jenna

Location:
E-mail: Jenna591@hotmail.com

I was looking through my old TLK Stuff and I found this book called " Friends in Need" It was about Mufasa and Zazu, bbut Mufasa was younger. It showed how they met adn the Mufasa go mad at him always following. Then Sarabi got trapped in a pit, Mufasa pushed a tree in and saved her. Anyone else seen this? If so, don't you think the characters wer "cute"?


Jul 19 - 00:18

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: krzykatmer@aol.com

The SP info was nice of you to post and I'm glad Sarafina has more than one line this time!!!! But where exactly did you find that out? I've been to every SP site and the movie database but I don't remember seeing any Sarafina info anywhere....if you'd give me the site's addy I'd appreciate it!

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 18 - 21:34

Rafiki
Shamon
Location: Haven
E-mail:

Hey TLK:SP fans I've been looking around some other websites assoiated with TLK:SP and I can confirm some of the rumores going around about the movie. I've got some of them listed below.

1. Simba will not die
2. Sarabi and the hyenies will not appear it TLK:SP
3. Sarafina has more then one line
4. More lion cast
5. The only girl friend anyone is having is Kovu
(I bet we all know who that is)

I don't want to give to much away, but if any of you think that I spoiled some of movie for ya then just don't sing, just bring it!


Jul 18 - 21:29

kiara

Location:
E-mail:

i just went to the disney store and saw a music box, picture frame, snow globe, and kiara, kovu, and timon & pumbaa stuffed animals. and of coursethe bean bags and the movie offer.


Jul 18 - 20:08

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: krzykatmer@aol.com

Dara, that stinks about your mail. I sent it to Beerit for her site so that maybe she could put it in her Misc section but she hasn't gotten back to me yet...

Chris could be right. "Upendi" may be Zulu since if you'd note that most of the chanting and such is Zulu and only the names are swahili. Is there a Zulu online dictionary anyone knows of...?

That's all folks,
Krazy Kat


Jul 18 - 16:42

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

I love those merchandise!!

Krazy Kat, I would love to hear the 'Pendi' tune like I said before, but my mail server doesn't support more than 65Kb. If the song is smaller than it could. But if it's bigger, I'm afraid the whole stupid thing will crash! It happend before, with the result that I couldn't send or receive any mail!! I would prefer to download it from somewhere... Maybe you could send it to one of the guys who have a kiara/kovu/SP site? But that's up to you of course.

Bye!!

Dara


Jul 18 - 16:25

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello All,

"Upendi" may not mean anything in Swahili, but what about Zulu? Remember most of the TLK songs have Zulu rather than Swahili words, apart from Hakuna Matata that is.

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 18 - 14:42

Neema.

Location:
E-mail: neema@lionking.org.

Geez! I'm gone for a few weeks, and look that's sprung up. I've gotta make my mother drag me to the Disney Store--I gotta. I'll die if I don't see or hear this 'Upendi' stuff. :> Anyhoo, to the point... (Wow. She finally has a point?! Amazing.)


I can't wait to see the 'Upendi' music box--I'd love to hear it, but my speakers are being evil on me. So, can someone tell what it sounds like? I've gotten confused; at first, I thought it was a new character. Boy, am I dumb. Oo. There's a new character? Is Upendi a lioness from Scar's pride? Does it seem like a bad idea? :) Aaaaanyway... so, there's plushies and a music box? Cool. I'd better get 'em. Back to what the subject--this paragraph, actually--is upon: Upendi. So, 'upendo' means love, and 'upendi' means... nothing? I think upendi sounds better, and I have a theory! That this could be that lullaby Zira sings to.. whoever. Who was it again? Kiara? Kovu? Vitan-- I'm rambling. Or it could be a {gasp!} song Kiara sings to Kovu. Or vice versa. Or something Nala sings to Kiara as a little girl...? Boy. Am I ever rambling...


Merchandise! Oooooo! I'm getting all hyper and happy! Lithographs? Plushies? Music boxes? This is too much--Disney is murdering me. I want to see Simba's Pride and I wanna see it NOW! :) I'll clamp my maw shut, now. I'm ramblin' and talking too much. Hakuna Matata and all that nifty stuff.


Neema.


P.S.: I'm gonna be gone for another week--yay. Vacation in Florida. I might be using my badbad laptop, but I don't know if it has internet access... Goodgod, help me if it's AOHell or MSN. :b


Jul 18 - 14:11

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: KrzyKatMer@aol.com

Snenzi, you said you saw the music box but you must not have read the tune. It's on the botom. the tune is called "Upendi". Again if anyone wants the little music box twinkle tune E Mail me. ;)

I did buy the music box, i agree it's not worth fifteen bucks but I am on an SP craze. I hope they make Vitani and Nuka plushies too. Umm..that's about it for now. Ta ta.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 18 - 13:27

Panthera Leo
Lioness
Location: Norway
E-mail: pleo83@hotmail.com

Heya everyone!

Shenzi, after from I have read here, I think 'Upendi' is the name of a song witch will be in SP. When I looked in the swahili dictonary, I couldn't find the word, but I found the word 'upendo' witch means 'love'. I guess it's a love song of some sort, and that Disney either did some oopsie with the name, or they think 'Upendi' sounds better...

Later!

-Panthera.


Jul 18 - 13:21

shenzi

Location:
E-mail:

hakuna matata ! wutz " Upendi ", is she an sp character ?


Jul 18 - 13:07

Kaetaylor

Location:
E-mail: childoffire@prodigy.net

Just in response to the comment about Kovu having a scar like Scar does--if you watch the video really carefully, there is NO scar over Kovu's eye.


Jul 18 - 12:42

shenzi

Location:
E-mail:

i haven't been here forever and i just posted a message and it didn't post ! any way i brought a kiara stuffed toy at the disney store yesterday. every week i go in there they always something different. this week they had more kiddie clothing, a nala purse i mistook for a stuffed toy the first time i saw it, a small nala change purse, and an sp music box. the music box is cheaply made and i won't pay 15 dollars for it. kiara was 15 and she was more worth it. one of the store workers said they will get a kovu soon plus an sp ornament and some collectible figures. i gotta go, this message better post or i will be pissed ! Hakuna Matata !


Jul 18 - 12:38

Hollywood

Location: Home
E-mail: Lt_Hollywood@yahoo.com

This message is NOT Tlk related in the littlest bit, but oh well. Do any of you know of a game for the Game Boy called Final Fantasy Adventure? If anyone does (And has beaten the game) how do you get out of the deseret? That stupid kid is a lier! Well If anyone knows please E-mail me. Well, I need to go, my download is finished (YEAH!! FINALY!!!).
C-YA!!
-Hollywood


Jul 18 - 12:35

shenzi

Location: long island
E-mail:

i haven't been here in so long. i don't even remember when i was last here. i haven't read everyones messages yet, but i'll get to it soon. its only july but every week when i go shopping the disney store has new tlk and sp stuff. i just brought a kiara stuffed animal. they have a music box, which is cute but cheaply made.in my opinion it is not worth 15 dollars. they have more kiddie clothing and a cute nala purse that i mistook for a stuffed toy when i first saw it. the nala change purse is also cute but i probably won't by eighter. one of the store workers said that they will come out with a kovu stuffed toy soon, an sp ornament and collectible figures. for those of you that liked mulan and collect the disney art books there is a new book out called The legend of Mulan. it retells the anchient chinese legend in english and chinese and has sketches and pictures from the disney movie. it folds like a fan and costs 18 dollars. its not a book for kids. now my pooh obsessed cousin watches the lion king eveyday. there is hope. hakuna matata !


Jul 18 - 12:31

Hollywood

Location: Home
E-mail: Lt_Hollywood@yahoo.com

How much do the SP figures cost?!


Jul 18 - 12:19

Alexander

Location:
E-mail:

Sorry, this isn't SP related, but:

JFT, like I said in my earlier post, I DID end up getting the TLK cake figures for my birthday (on the cake).

Yes, I have asked around at numerous bakeries in grocery stores before and the response was the same: we only sell them with a cake.

However, I recently learned that Meijers---the very place my cake came from----does allow you to buy the figures seperately for $5. Strangely, I asked them before and they told me they did not sell them seperate. Guess I talked to the wrong person before.

This relates to SP: Does anyone know of a site that has the SP ceramic figures? The Disney Store near me doesn't have them.


Jul 18 - 12:04

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: JFT@lionking.org

Alexander, I am a amature cake decorator. When I lived on a different side of town I found a shop that sells cake toppers and bought them for about $1 each. You just have to look around. Try a local cake decorating supplier. As the people who work in the bakery for help. If all elese fails, Buy the cake. My parents did the same for me on my 21st B-Day.
Good luck, JFT


Jul 17 - 21:42

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: krzykatmer@aol.com

Kichebo,
how much did the ceramic SP figurines cost? My D. Store hasnt gotten any SP items except the beanies and the "Upendi" music box. I was just wondering because since I bought my scanner I'm running out of money- fast.

Again if anyone wants to hear Upendi's little twinkle tune from the music box drop me a line. That's all for now.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 17 - 21:38

Smilee

Location: NF Canada
E-mail: coryhicks@geocities.com

Does anyone have a pic of the pupets that you get when you pre-order sp? Mine are comming in the mail from the US but I really want to see what they look like now :)

Smilee


Jul 17 - 19:46

Kichebo

Location:
E-mail:

kay, seen the Kiara plushie, she is indeed adorable, plus i've also seen the ceramic SP "family" ; adult Simba, adult Nala, Timon w/ Pumbaa, Kovu, and Kiara....
of course i only bought the Kovu figure, but if money suddenly sprouts in my backyard maybe i will get the whole set :-)


Jul 17 - 19:37

CyberwolfL
wild red wolf
Location: woods
E-mail: *BURP*

On my last message, I meant the lith and puppet were cute, not cut.

GIVE POOH A BREAK!


Jul 17 - 14:26

CyberwolfL
wild red wolf
Location: woods
E-mail: *BURP!*

Hey, all U Pooh Haters U! Now, what's wrong with poor old Pooh? Come on, give him a break! Sheesh!
Anyway, I'm soooo excited about TLK II! Oh, I just can't WAIT for TLK II! What's Upendi? And what's the deal 'bout viscous or vicious lullaby?
And the lith and puppet U get when U reserve you're copy of TLK II look funky. But, the're cut anyway. I saw a cee-uute little ceramic Simba with all four paws raised. I also saw the sno-globe ya'll were chatting about. Pah-leese visit my webpage at www.mindspring.com/deltav/lauren1.html.
PS I LOVE TLK & TLK III SOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jul 17 - 14:24

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: krzykatmer@aol.com

I went crazy with my Sound Recorder and i decided to record "Upendi". Keep in mind it's just a twinkle tune from a music box so there's no words or anything, but it's still cute. If you'd like me to send you the sound, please E Mail me and I'll be glad to.

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 17 - 13:57

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail:

Dara,
I don't think they waited a week to present Simba. I could see the next day, but not a week. Lion cubs are born with their eyes open so Simba's eyes being open would have nothing to do with that. =)

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 17 - 13:34

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

Hi!!

I'm very curious... does "Upendi" sound better than "We are one"? I really loved the song we are one. Can someone put Upendi or just a short piece on his or her's site?

Beerit, in the lion king stories for kids I have "read" or looked in, most of them say that Simba is presented to the crowd the very next day. Simba looked pretty young while Rafiki hold him high. But his eyes were open, which means he was about a week old at that time... but I don't think Disney was going this far into lions real life.

Um... I don't want to upset anybody, but Mickey works on my nerves too. I like Donald Duck better. In the country were I live Donald Duck is more populair than Mickey. Sorry Mickey lovers...

Chris, of course lion cubs will suckle for longer period, but they don't need their milk nessecarily. Hello Chris! did you have studied for lions life? I wasn't digging THAT far in lions life, but you're absolutely right! I was more talking in the theoretic way. Of course in practice it's different most of the time. And yes, a lions (especially males) life is tough!

Alexander, happy birthday although it's a bit late... I wish I had parents like yours! I know they would do it for me too, but only when I gave them clues or when I begged them...

Well.... that's it for now, I guess.

Dara

*Beerit, if you'll FRY the Pooh then I'll BOIL him..... in the BIRDY BOILER!* (maybe Shenzi wants to help me??)


Jul 17 - 11:56

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail: krzykatmer@aol.com

Kiara,
The only SP product at my Disney store right now is the music box that plays "Upendi", (Beerit that's one of the new songs from SP) costs fifteen dollars. The frame is a bit higher quality but surprisingly only costs eighteen dollars. Again, the addy for the frame is:

http://members.tripod.com/~mirrani/lionking/spframecup.jpg

That's the best pic you can get of the frame because you can't scan it, mainly because it's 3D. It looks better in reality. ;)

Um, I was really bored yesterday so i drew two new SP pics. One is "Super Kovu" which is Kovu flying through the air with a red cape w/ a big "K" on it...then there's another one with Kiara's forepaws up in the air and a surprised look. This is entitled "Kiara getting held up at the local Pridelands Bank." They're silly, but cute. I would send them to you Beerit because I'd really like for them to be up on a site, but :::Snaps:: MY STUPID COMPUTER CRASHED AND I'M STUCK ON THIS GODFORSAKEN LAPTOP!!!!!!!! Sorry.

Um, that's all for now.
~Krazy Kat~



Jul 17 - 09:55

Alexander

Location:
E-mail:

This doesn't really relate to SP, but:

On my birthday (July 12) my parents got me a Lion King cake at Meijer's (it is sort of like a Walmart Supercenter). They had the cake decorator put "Happy Birthday" on it and the lady decorating said "Oh how cute for a little boy." My parents responded, "Uh, no, he's turning 23."

Anyhow, about the cake: it was decorated with two Lion King plastic figures, one of young Simba and one of Timon "surfing" on Pumbaa.
The figures look GREAT, some of the best I've seen, and are made by Applause. However, they are ONLY available as cake decorations and NOT at any gift store. I tried to buy them from Meijer's bakery some time ago, but they would only sell them with a cake. Since it was my birthday, my dad thought, "Hey, let's get him that cake since he wanted those figures." Nice parents, eh?


Jul 17 - 08:23

elyse

Location: sacramento, ca.
E-mail: elysemize@lycosmail.com

good morning!! i went to the disney store yesterday & i didn't see any new merchandise. all they had were the frame & the pre-order stuff & tlk infant clothing, but no music box, snowglobe or anything else. i know, i just need to be patient right?? well, on the plus side i'm off to l.a. this weekend. my friend is getting married saturday. so, of course that means disneyland on sunday. YEA! i can't wait. maybe they'll have new sp stuff. i hope so.
~elyse


Jul 17 - 07:54

Panthera Leo
Lioness
Location: Norway
E-mail: pleo83@hotmail.com

Hello.

Beerit, about your question....
Of course I don't know the answer, but I think they wait some days before the presentation of the cub. When a new cub is born, I doubt it would be any good to be picked up and shown before all those animals right away. And how should they get all the animals to come right away? I think the cub is born some days before the presentation. Then theking has time to tell the kingdom, and the cub's parents get to spend some time alone with their newborn cub....

But that's just my opinion. What do you other guys think?

-Panthera.


Jul 17 - 03:26

Chris Boyce

Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk

Hello Folks,


> The young cubs suckle for milk for about 2
>months. After 3 months they'll learn to hunt.


Hmm, cubs will suckle for much longer than 2 months, 9 is not unusual, though at that stage milk is not a particularly important part of their diet.


> As what I have heard before, male lions are
> sexually mature at the age of 3, they are adults
> then(look at the scene of simba on the log with
> Hakuna Matata) Till that age they're teenagers.
> Females are sexually mature at the age of 2.
> Someone correct me if I'm wrong!

Not so much wrong as misleading. To say the lionesses are sexually mature at 2 and males at 3 is equivalent to saying girls can have children from 11 and boys can sire children at 12, both of which are technically true. Sexual maturity doesn't imply physical maturity. A three year old lion is a teenager (as is a two year old lioness), and like human teenagers, are capable of sexual and reproductive activity, but are not fully adult. A two year old lion will still be well below full adult weight and will only have a part formed mane. The average age for lionesses to bare their first litter of cubs is around 4, and lions cannot expect to father cubs until they are around five. The intervening years, 2 to 5, are generally spent outside a pride, as lions cannot challange for a pride until they have reached full adult weight and strength. There are exceptions, and of course, lions behaviour in captivity is necessarily somewhat different. Even when a lion has a pride, or more accurately, a pride has him (and probably his collegues too) he will be lucky to hold it for more than two or three years before being forced out by younger adults. It's a tough life being a lion.

Bye,
Chris.


Jul 17 - 02:42

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Dara, I didnt see your message yesterday.
oh, man! well, sorry if I missed a message... Dara thanks for the info.
the address JFT ment was actually www.lionking.org/~jft, & not JFT (big latters) like he wrote it.

well!? what do u guys think bout the presentation?! u think that Rafiki presents a cub right after its born or does he wait a while?!
John Doe, I herad sometuhing like that too, but I think Disney made a blooper with that, Kiara is definatly NOT a water tank!
hey, could u sum me the info we have on upendi. I missed it, I just know it some song that will be on SP & maybe its on some music box?! tell me.
Krazy Kat, I dont like mickey too. I always loved pluto. arf...

we are one

what, did we get tired of pooh hating messages?!
#FRY THE POOH#


Jul 17 - 01:39

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: jft@lionking.org

Thanks for the complemment Dara. I'm sorry about the case sensitive net address. Just so their is no more problems, I'm going to put a web link in for my page. I hope this works.
WWW.LionKing.org/~jft
After a while I believe the story gets better, tha wrighting side that is. It's been a while since I took creative wrighting in school. My pholisphy is , "If you wright a story and you didn't like it you wasted your time. If you did like it then you did'nt waste your time for you are your worst cridict." Thank you verry much.
Enjoy the fic.


Jul 16 - 22:37

Mike
Koral Hamburger
Location: Hell
E-mail: JaymzLarz@aol.com

In response to John Doe's question, in my belief, Treize is Nala's father. Personally, I don't think Nala's mother ever found Scar attractive in that way.


Jul 16 - 21:18

Kara

Location:
E-mail:

I forgot to ask, but what do all the new Simba's Pride items cost? Like the musicbox,etc...
Thanks.... Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 16 - 18:38

Kovu

Location: Pride Land
E-mail:

Does anyone know where I can get SP figures? My stupid dog ate my TLK figures so I need new ones. I figured I get SP ones becaues as far as I know they don't sell the TLK figs. any more. Well thanks.
-Kovu


Jul 16 - 18:35

Hollywood

Location: Colorado
E-mail: Lt_Hollywood@yahoo.com

I know one thing about Kovu. It means Scar in some lang.


Jul 16 - 18:24

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

What is "Upendi"? And what does that frame look like? can anyone send me a link to a site that has a pic of it? Well, bye


Jul 16 - 18:13

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail:

Hey all,
Beerit, i got the addy for that frame from TLK-L. I went to my Disney Store and i saw no signs of figurines, snowglobes, or a Kiara plush. Although i was hoping so!! They did have the frame and the music box; i did buy the music box, though. "Upendi" sounds pretty nice!

Um, I didn't really see a point in pre-ordering "Simba's Pride" because for one, I wasnt paying twenty three dollars for an odd looking litho and a puppet. I doubt it will sell out that quickly. I never buy my movies from the Disney Store because i can always find them at my local Best Buy or BJ's wholesale club for sixteen or even fourteen dollars.

POOH ALERT:
Mickey is no longer loved!! I was standing in line with my (adorable!!) music box, where two trendy girls stood behind me. I'll state what they said to a point:

(Girl looks at "The Spirit of Mickey" tape) "I don't really like Mickey."

(girl 2) "Yeah, he gets on my nerves. I like Pooh better." (I guessed they were holding some sort of Pooh object.)

Now, what i FELT like doing in this situation was turn around to defend the mouse and say, "Look, if there was no Mickey there wouldnt be any of your precious stinking Pooh, now WOULD THERE?" But i contained myself...

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 16 - 17:57

John Doe

Location:
E-mail:

Who is Nala's father?


Jul 16 - 17:41

John Doe

Location:
E-mail:

In Swahili, Kiara means "water tank."


Jul 16 - 17:38

Kara

Location:
E-mail:

Hey guys! I just got back from Target and they have this Simba's Pride matching game. The object is to get Kiara and Kovu together, very cute. Wow! Simba's Pride ceramic figures and a music box, I can't wait to go to the mall!!! This must be a very big movie if its merchandise is coming out already! I haven't seen any poco 2 stuff yet, like I care! Anyway, that's all. Oh, and does anyone know the lullaby? I'm so confused.
Kara (Kiara) We Are One


Jul 16 - 17:05

Ruth

Location: IL
E-mail: eagle10@mediaone.net

I am a TLK/SP fan and a hope to be someday Disney Animator. I have come here often, but this is my first time really posting. I just got back from the Disney store. They had a SP snowglobe with Kovu, and Kiara as cubs in the middle, and Timon, and Pumba in the water in the front. Simba and Nala were on the back, and Zazu, and Rafiki were also on it. It played Upendi. They also had a Kiara plush.

I cant wait for this movie to come out. Looks great! and the animation looks good to. The best I've seen for a sequel. Does anybody know which unit worked on it? Was it the Australia unit? I believe they are the ones that usually work on the sequels and the TV shows.


Jul 16 - 17:00

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

Uhmmmm, Beerit, I posted some info about lions 2 entries ago.... maybe it's not much, but I hope it will help you. If you don't know anything than ask, maybe we all can help you. Or else, maybe you can find anything in the animal encyclopedia.

Bye!

Dara


Jul 16 - 14:27

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Krazy Kat, thems pics rule! how did u find 'em anyway?!

JFT, thanks 4 the info. what about the other questions! I'm heading to that part in my fan fic & without some answers I'll be stuck! think, people, think!
"viscous lullaby", u guys crack me up... even if u dont mean to...
all this talk about beverly hills makes me hungry. wonder what's in the fridge. or ON the fridge, as the case may be...

we are the cornflakes (no, that aint right)


Jul 16 - 14:19

Dara

Location:
E-mail:

Beerit, that 'Simba's Favorites, Lion King II'. where I was talking about is a CD. I ordered it at the amazon.com. They only sell books and CD's.
I reveived a mail from Amazon in with they confirmed my orders as CD's.

I don't know if this is a CD about SP. Maybe it's just another sort of RotPL CD. I won't know untill september I guess.

I think JFT is right about the age. About 10-12 years. Not pretty long is it? They can live in groups from 3 to 30 animals, ruled by 1 up to 4 males. Males fight against male intruders. Females fight in almost the same way against female intruders. those fights are fierce and they end up in death most of the times. The young cubs suckle for milk for about 2 months. After 3 months they'll learn to hunt. As what I have heard before, male lions are sexually mature at the age of 3, they are adults then(look at the scene of simba on the log with Hakuna Matata) Till that age they're teenagers. Females are sexually mature at the age of 2. Someone correct me if I'm wrong! Male lions are banished when they reach the age of 2, at that age, their mother will give birth again. Lionesses will search for a good and quit place near water when they are about to give birth. Lionesses roar after a succesful hunt.
Sooo, some info about lions. Hope it helped...

Ducky, who was mean? I didn't noticed anything.
I hope you don't want all messages to be holy!
This is not a church or something! What's wrong with some mild discussions? Discussions (if you think that's mean) doesn't mean hate.

Krazy Kat, the SP frame is really cute and beautiul!!

JFT, your site's adress (JFT) has to be typed with undercast letters. Or else it doesn't work.
Where did you get Mufasa's gohst??! By the way, this is a very origional way to read a story!

Bye!!

Dara


Jul 16 - 14:02

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail:

Ah, thanks for clearing up the "Vicious Lullaby" thingy- I was unaware it was just a joke song, because my web browser won't let me access it...stupid thing....

~Krazy Kat~


Jul 16 - 12:57

Steele
Lead dog. ;)
Location: In the snow
E-mail: Flare gun

FYI vicious lullaby is a joke song...quite funny though. :) It is in no way truly connected to SP. Worth hearing though.


Jul 16 - 12:46

the Panther
Student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahoo.com

~TIMON~: you were looking for pages on Timon, why not make one yourself? Maybe you allready have one? anyway go to the members pages of lionking.org , among the pages on lionking.org i think theres a Timon archive

thanks
the Panther


Jul 16 - 11:40

Brian Tiemann
www.lionking.org
Location: Cupertino
E-mail: btman@lionking.org

I hope you guys mean "vicious lullaby", not "viscous"...

"viscous" means thick and gloppy, like motor oil. :)


Jul 16 - 11:13

Steele
Just being a Husky (what's new?) ;)
Location: Roaming Alaska
E-mail: Via telegraph

First, thank you Krazy Kat for posting about the music box. I have so many people to update I forgot about here. :P The other thing that was not mentiond though was the TLK polar fleece. They just got in (unboxing only yesterday) high quality emboidered polar fleeces. The characters included are: Simba, Nala, Timon, Pumbaa, Rafiki and Zazu. They all appear in seperate squares, they look pretty darn good. :)..........now for the bad news, the fleece is bright orange. :P Oh well, at least it's TLK, and $48.


Jul 16 - 10:22

TLkFan

Location:
E-mail:

Hi! :)

I just came back from The Disney Store and got the picture frame, music box and preordered SP, along with the litho and Kiara puppet. They had no signs of any ceramic Kiara or Kovu figures, but I DID see a new SP plushie. It was of Pumbaa, with TImon on his head. What sux about this is that the Pumbaa looks like a small version of the TLK Pumbaa they have, except without the bugs in his mouth, and the Timon just looks like the Timon Beanie baby :P Anyway, is it me, or are the songs similar to the ones from TLK, I mean you have the song for the theme of the movie "We are One", for TLk it was "Circle of Life" Then you have a villain's song, probably much like "Be Prepared" and you have Upendi, which translates to "Love" though the word is really "Upendo". I thought We are One was pretty good, and hopefully the other ones are just as good :)


Jul 16 - 10:04

JFT

Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: Now it's JFT@LionKing.org

I saw a post asking how long a lion lives. If I rember right they live to be about 10 to 12 in the wild and up to 20 in captivity. If I rember right.

My fan fic has been mooved to WWW.LionKing.org/~JFT
It is almoust finished just give me a few days to wright it on paper then a week to get it on the Computer to post the final chapters on the net. Enjoy the story.


Jul 16 - 09:57

Krazy Kat

Location:
E-mail:

Wow, never saw such overwhelming demand to see something....well, here's the addresses:

This is the original:
http://members.tripod.com/~mirrani/lionking/spframe.jpg

And the close-up is:
http://members.tripod.com/~mirrani/lionking/spframecup.jpg

Hope that helps...
Also i saw the URL for a song called "Viscous Lullaby" I think sung by Zira- but I can't seem to access it...as soon as I can, I'll inform y'all.

That's all for now.
~Krazy Kat~


Jul 16 - 07:38

Kiara
Future Queen
Location: Pride Rock
E-mail: Hvn711@aol.com

Hey Timon, be4 I became a Kiaraholic, I was a Timonaholic and i still am. So yes, Timon, I love you! Youre a female meerkat's dream and a lot smarter than anyone else in the Pridelands!


Jul 16 - 06:16

Beerit
The Sunshine Society
Location: www.lionking.org/~ari
E-mail: beerit@inter.net.il

Dara, u'll LOVE your new CD.
can u tell me this:
how long do lions live? in the age of 2 (when they can have kids) r they grown or teens (dumb question?)?
one more question 2 all of u, u think Rafiki presents the new prince/princess RIGHT AFTER they're born, or do they wait a few days till the prince/ess is settled down?
I'm afraid my fan fic covers the LIFETIME of a lion so soon is'nt the right word to describe when I'm finished... (:

what is 'Simba's Favorites, Lion King II'?
a computer game?! what's it about? is it like the lion king activity center? filled with pointless games & no plot mentioning?
Ducky. who was mean? (exept pooh hater/derek/lindsy/****)
Krazy Kat. where did usee the frame?!?!?!? give me the address please!

we are one


Jul 16 - 04:32

Timon

Location: I'm right here, ya mook!
E-mail: Timon19149

ARE THERE ANY TIMONAHOLICS OUT THERE IN WHERE EVER I AM?!?!
"Father, I feel so alone..." Ya know, if more Timonaholics don't show up, I'm just gonna haveta e-mail Mageuzi & tell him the KiB isn't working as we hoped it would. If ya have ABSALOUTLY no idea what I'm babbling on about, e0mail & tell me to shut up [I mean it]. Timonaholics, please e-mail me & tell me you love Timon! I'm sad! Well, good bye! [fade to black pic of me kissing a pic. of Timon. Hey! Just 'cause I call me self Timon dosen't mean I'm a guy!] LOVE TIMON (or else)!
~TIMON~
certified Timonaholic


Jul 16 - 01:30

Timon

Location: Meerkat Burrowst
E-mail: Timon19149

Thaanks, Krazy Kat, that did help alot. The only SP beanie I have seen is Kovu & he;s not that great. I LOVE my timon beanie, though. He goes everywhere with me. I think I'll buy 3 more... Whaddya think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I'm Timon crazed but i have my rights, right? Oh, boy! I gotta quit writing late at night. If anyone see's new Timon Stuffies PLEASE Tell me right away! PLEASE! Long live Vitani! Love Timon!
~Timon~
certified Timonaholic


Jul 16 - 00:45

Timon

Location: Meerkat Burrows
E-mail: Timon19149

Hey! I'm glad someone saw that oopsie I saw. Um...things like scars don't get passed down in genes 'cause wounds just DON'T DO THAT!!! I really think that Kovu is Scar's son. Look at his coloring. But...he looks like Simba, so maybey he's Simba's kid. Hey, it's a dumb idea but he DOES kinda look like Simba. Dosen't he? Okay, enogh hair-brained ideas for today. Any one know a really good Timonaholic page? I'm in dire need of one! Long live Vitani! Love Timon!
~TIMON~
certifed Timonaholic


Jul 16 - 00:35

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