It is currently 18:06 Pacific Time on Mon Jun 3 2002. Currently in Saint Claire, it is a cloudy day. The temperature is 68 degrees Fahrenheit (20 degrees Celsius). The wind is currently coming in from the southwest at 9 mph. The barometric pressure reading is 30.04 and steady, and the relative humidity is 52 percent. The dewpoint is 50 degrees Fahrenheit (10 degrees Celsius.) Currently the moon is in the waning Half Moon phase (46% full). Meadow by Lake Arthur A large, open meadow spreads out before you, sloping down on one side to the shore of a clear blue lake. Scrawny field grasses sway slightly in a gentle breeze; scattered clumps of trees stand like outposts for the surrounding forest. Deer tracks crisscross the meadow, forming a network of lines through the grass. The deep forest of the northwest spreads out on three sides, balanced by the clarity of the crystalline lake. To the west, the meadow slopes down to a rocky beach on the shore. An ill-kept dirt road enters the meadow from the north, marks a curving line between grass and trees along the meadow's northeastern border, and veers eastward. A bumpy trail, scarred with the tracks of a dirtbike, forks away from the main road and passes beneath the trees to the southeast. Several overgrown trails lead off into the deeper forests to the south and southwest. Robert continues building the bonfire, feeding it carefully. As people show up, he gestures around the area, giving suggestions for placement and settling. Kaz, with a slight limp, wanders in from the general direction of Kent Crossing. Eamon finds the bonfire and the gathering, then heads over to Susan and grins at her. "Hey there, 'sup?" Luc arrives with Serf, looking none to pleased to be walking around on two legs. He looks around the clearing and finds an out-of-the-way place to sit. Susan's expression is sober as she greets her tribemate. "It's not good, I'll tell you that much." Andrea has spread out a thick blanket not too far from the bondfire, where she sits and watches Robert. Ruddy light dances on her sober face. Eamon nods. "Yeah. Listen, after the meeting we'll talk about teaching that gift, okay?" Susan perks up and nods to Eamon. "That would be good. And very much appreciated." She jerks her head towards her alpha, and says "Gonna go sit with Andrea. Join us if you want?" Seeker emerges from the woods and nods a greeting to the gathered garou, then sits crosslegged by the fire, quietly. Shadow-of-Blood approaches from the woods, but stays back /in/ the woods for now, not approaching the gathering yet. Owen makes his way in from the north, stopping once he figures he's within the 'gathering space' here. He pauses for a few to survey who's here already, then proceeds to move to stand by Luc. Jamethon steps in from the woods and stays at the edge of the gathering, just planning on listening in the meeting tonight. A fair time after the noise of a car to the north, and its subsequent silence, John, Rina, and Salem arrive at the same time, hiking in from where the road goes unpaved. They all bear somewhat grim expressions, and Salem is even wearing sunglasses, looking to be - subtly - in poorer shape than the others. Brittany joins with the rest, leading both Brigid, on her left, and Kristine, on her right, in a small show of SIlver Solidarity. She mutters something, quietly, to Kristine, then finds a spot fo rthe three to sit. Serf turns his head toward Owen when the Get joins Luc and breathes out in a chuffing noise. Kristine glances up to Brittany, giving a simple nod, then waits for the Elder to seat herself, before she moves to sit with Brigid. Robert continues feeding the bonfire, stopping to point out where people can pitch tenst if they've brought them, or throw sleeping bags if they'd rather sleep under the stars in homid form. He looks up towards where the slowly sinking sun hides behind some clouds, then nods to the latest arrivals. Andrea nods once to Eamon, from her seat on the spread blanket. The theurge Gaian seems a little distant, but she waits patiently. Brigid keeps a quiet ear to the other two Fangs, settling down after Brittany sits and resting both hands loosely in her lap. Luc grunts softly in greeting to Owen. Sepdet jogs out of the lengthening shadows of the woods and slips into the gathering, finding a spot somewhere near Andrea to settle. Salem lurks close to John and Rina; apart from the sunglasses, the Philodox is wearing a new trenchcoat rather than his usual black leather duster, and the brim of his fedora's pulled down low. There's a definite reluctance in his posture; hands are buried into jean pockets, and the set of his shoulders is tense. Moving almost lazily, Patrick threads his way through the crowd to take a sitting position behind Andrea on her blanket. The Uktena ragabash nods once to Sepdet as she settles nearby, then murmurs something to his alpha. Rina, wrapped in a leather jacket with some suspicious bulges beneath her arms, makes her way toward the fire. A black helmet hangs from one wrist. with the fingers of gloves sticking out of it. The young woman searches for the unfamiliar faces, and commits them to memory. Brittany's hand casually moves to her hip, where an empty holster is strapped. She then lets her eyes quietly roll to the Northeast, remaining tense. John follows the kin girl, with a blanket under one arm, and finds an empty enough place for them to sit. Jamethon carries with him, for those who look in his direction, a long wooden javelin with intricate carvings on it, a large cloth bag, and two spools of gold wiring. As the trickle of incoming Garou slows, Robert stands up from poking at the bonfire and dusts off his hands. "Walking coals is a common team building exercise, " he calls to the gathered group, "but admittedly it's not one for tonight. Everyone gather around. It's time to share information and talk of plans." Matt slips quietly into the back of the crowd as Robert speaks, sitting next to no one in particular. Kristine looks to the other two Fangs, before turning her attention on Robert, her arms resting in her lap, remainin quiet. For the moment. Susan glances up at Robert and flashes a faint smile for a moment. Shadow-of-Blood moves a few steps clser, to more right on the edge of the woods. Jamethon gathers in a bit closer, bringing his things along. Eamon snickers. "Or maybe we can play paintball." Kristine tilts her head towards Eamon, and gives a small little chuckle, but doesn't add to the comment. Owen remains standing upright, arms crossed over his chest, fingers drumming. Brigid inches slightly closer to Kristine and gives her attention over to things, mouth quirking in a small smile at Eamon. Andrea's lips curve slightly, but she stays where she is, relatively close to the flames. Serf wrinkles his nose in confusion, but the Stargazer remains silent. Trying not to be too conspicuous, a trio of cubs makes their way over toward the gathering. Aubrey, Cameron, and Tobin make their way over to sit/stand near Matt, through unspoken concensus. Salem sits down heavily, steadying himself with a hand as he lowers himself, crosslegged, onto the edge of the blanket. Subdued and silent, he folds his arms across his chest; reflected firelight dances in dark lenses. Sepdet raise an eyebrow at Eamon. "Not just now." She leans forward, clasping her arms around her knees. "News first." She looks around. "Scouts, battles, visions, we have plenty to discuss." Rina flips dark hair out of her eyes, and watches the man grimly. She doesn't yet sit down, standing at the edge of the blanket. Brittany opens a small pouch on her belt, pulling free both a pen and a small notepad, folding her legs for use as a desk, otehrwise ready to listen quietly. Susan raises a hand to the cubs and Matt, but she makes no other move away from her pack. Shifting uneasily, the no-moon glances towards Robert and then back towards Andrea. Kaz, who'd gone to answer a call of nature, wanders back to the (significantly larger) group. Jamethon sits in the spot he finds and once he has done so he pulls the javelin across his lap and, pulling out a sharp looking tool for wood carving, sets to adding to the intriate designs already on it. This is basically what he will be doing for the rest of the night, keeping an ear and eye out for important information. Tobin stands quietly by the Fianna, nodding silently in greeting to those of his tribe who are present. The alpha gives Eamon a small smile and a slight nod befor continuing, "We'll start at the beginning. I think everyone knows the how and wherefores of how the caern fell by now. The most recent assault, I think, has not had time for all the information to ge out yet. I, for one, am somewhat curious. If someone could inform the rest of the sept about the assault in the city?" Robert asks, looking towards John, then to Kaz. Kaz looks at John. "You were there for more of it than I was. Mostly, I just got shot by snipers." Shadow-of-Blood barks sharply from just inside the woods as discussion seems to start. Matt gives the cubs a kind smile, and gestures to the grass next to him. Make yourselves comfortable, the gesture says. He nods to Susan, and gives his attention over to John. Owen, on edge enough, darts a look towards the bark. In turn, he heads over towards the source. Eamon nods and stands. "Yeah, I got some news. Earlier this week Aburey, Tobin and I talked to some spirits in the Harbor Park umbra and got an idea of what's in the caern's shadow. There are balefire banes, crystal banes and some kind of thing that looks like a black puddle with arms and legs. The merlin spirit we talked to also saw another bane it couldn't identify, plus numerous other smaller banes. The spirits haven't been able to get near the caern recently, so I dunno what's gone in there since then." Kaz adds, "An' Tobin an' Aubrey an' Cam're kinda servin' as translator types, an' intermediaries, for them's as needs it." Sepdet rises to her feet, only half-listening. "They wouldn't dare," she whispers under her breath, staring in the direction of Shadow-of-Blood. Rina glances to the Strider, and then looks over her shoulder to Owen and Shadow-of-Blood. "I've done some research into those banes," Andrea speaks up quietly. "Since Eamon brought me the news." Aubrey sits down in the grass beside Matt, offering a silent smile as she looks across to the others. As Eamon speaks, she looks up and pays close attention. She shuffles her legs cross-legged as she simply nods. Robert raises an eyebrow at Eamon, then nods to the ragabash. "In time," he says. "We need not to just start randomly. First, the assaults we've seen. Then, the information we have gained from visions, scouting, and asking. Finally, plans for the future." He looks over towards the woods, then sighs before swallowing a few times. ~Right,~ he says haltingly. ~Translate for Talon, then.~ He grimaces for a minutes or so, swallowing several more times. "Since he'll need someone to translate." Kristine raises a hand, "I can also help fill in what happened at the Walker Safe house, as I was there for most of it as well." The alpha looks back to John. "Short and sweet, but covering the subject, if you please, or delegate it to another." John tilts his head up to speak. In homid, given that there will be translation. "I only arrived after the chaos had started, but through questioning of those who were there, I've got a pretty clear picture of what happened. I don't know how, but I guess it was inevitable, given the high concentration of Garou living in the safehouse... We got made. Banes and Dancers seem to have infiltrated via the basement's connection to the sewers, and perhaps through one of the apartments. All the Dancers and banes were killed, though a sniper - using silver bullets - on the roof, eluded me when I went to go clear the umbra and rooftop. A packmate of mine - Roger Cohen, ~Howls-When-Dreaming~ - died; he killed the creature with his dying breaths." The Walker Elder pauses a moment. "The safehouse was rendered unlivable, and given a high volume of criminal evidence within, and the fact that the Dancers were aware of it... it is fortunate that a cocktail of dangerous chemicals in the basement resulted in its destruction." Sepdet's expression clears with relief. Sepdet, jumpy? Never. She resettles herself, leaning back to ask something of Andrea and Patrick in a whisper. Rina drops to sit crosslegged, beside Salem--close to John's feet. She turns her attention to the fire, as he speaks. Her expression tightens visibly, a sharp grim look, almost a scowl. Brittany chirps a short attention-getting whistle at Kaz, holding something small in her right hand. "Souvenier," she says, simply, then lobs a small shiny thing at the Gnawer. Owen kneels down beside the Talon, shifting to lupus in the shadows so as to translate for the Talon. John adds quickly - low, but clear - "Those who fled to the Rialto, which I requested we make a rally point for that night, should no longer live there. High concentrations are risky, and we don't want to lose another safe place." Kaz catches somewhat reflexively. "Yeah, an' they got that made, too. Also, the Junkyard. I gotta get that spread. So don' go there no more." Robert nods at Kaz. "More information that fits into the puzzle later, but it's important enough to mention now. Also, Andrea said she had something to add about the aftermath of the safehouse assault?" Brigid listens alertly, unable to stifle a shiver at the assertations of once-safe places being grossly less so. Licking her lips, she leans over and whispers briefly in Kristine's ear. Luc tries to follow the various speakers talking at once, gives up eventually, and lies down on the ground, looking up. Andrea's voice likewise strains with the effort of speaking the Mother Tongue in this form. ~Not the aftermath of the assault, but building on information brought to me. The darkness bane was seen to disintergrate spirits it touched. I've never seen its like before, nor have any of the spirits I asked. I don't know what it would do to a Garou. The crystal banes are likely corrupted glass elementals. Balefire, many of us have experienced before. Only the Fianna's gift of resistance is any proof against the green fire.~ She clears her throat, then goes on, ~Two nexus crawlers came with them, but they were defeated by the wards and the spirits. Fog is greviously injured, or was when the last of the spirits I spoke to had fled.~ Rina straightens visibly, looking toward the Cild of Gaia--and then she glances up to John, a hand tapping his arm. John looks sideways - and down a little - to Rina, shooting her a questioning glance. Sepdet signs to Robert, a silent question, placing her hand on top of her scalp and lifting it up about half a foot to what would be her glabro height. John winces faintly, and begins translating the Mother's Tongue for Rina - softly, to her ear. Kristine pulls her lips thin, listening to Andrea. Not good at all. She takes a deep breath and glances down to the ground briefly before looking up. Robert raises an eyebrow. "And still information slips through here and there. Interesting. Good to know the wards took down the nexus crawlers, as well." He turns back to John, saying, "Thank you. I might add, incidentally, that there will be a terrorist cell--the Scarlet Dawn? Something like that, at least--calling the FBI soon, perhaps as soon as tomorrow, to claim responsibility for the explosion. I have also been assured," he continues, with another glance towards Andrea, "that the remains found are human, and cannot be tied to the Garou." Rina leans toward the Glasswalker, but her attention remains on the Garou who speak. Andrea just dips her head in a nod at that one, confirming the statement. Brittany wordlessly jots in her pad. Kaz exhales. Salem appears to be intently studying the ground in front of him. The alpha smiles grimly. "Some of us are not without resources. Have there been any other assaults anyone knows about?" He looks over at Sepdet, tilts his head, then nods slowly. Eamon winces at that. "Are you sure about that, sir? I don't know about having "terrorists" be responsible. We could have FBI crawling all over the city again. It might be better to make it look like a meth lab blew up, something minor like that that the local police can handle. Last time the FBI were in town, we almost got found out." Rina nods minutely, looking across to Eamon. Her expression is dark, preoccupied. John raises an eyebrow at the terrorist information. "Is this a bona fide terrorist group you have... contact with, Rhya, or is this a fake-out of ours?" Covering all bases, though he doesn't appear to have given the former possibility much credibility, by his expression. Touch Deer wanders towards the gathered Garou, making a line for his packmates. He looks quietly around the small crowd as he moves, noting some familiar faces and many more unfamiliar ones. Sepdet settles into her favorite shape, which allows her to see over people's shoulders without having to stretch quite so much. Aubrey looks up and over to Kaz as she lightly signals the Gnawer's attention. At least for a brief question, while she pays attention to the rest of the conversation taking place. From someplace generally north of the area, a familiar to some young man strolls in the direction of the group. Likelyhood is Geoffrey was probably just wandering about, as he doesn't seem to be in any sort of a hurry. Just finishing a cigarette among his boots crunching in the dirt. Kaz raises an eyebrow at Aubrey. Andrea's sitting on a blanket with the other members of Ouroboros present. She smiles briefly at Scab-Survivor in greetings as he joins them. Robert raises an eyebrow. "If the chemicals were consistent with such a lab, it would be given more credence. I was led to believe that such was not true, between those who knew of the chemicals and the preliminary police investigations. Additionally, if they seek terrorists, they are less likely to investigate the owner of the building more closely. To John, he answers, "They are contacts of friends of friends who owe me favors, and are as legitimate as any other dozen people in the Middle East calling themselves terrorists. I've been pulling strings all weekend long." Eamon sighs and shakes his head. "They already ruled out terrorism, why stir shit up? We should just let it blow over." John shakes his head slowly, looking down. "Because there's no link to /us/ specifically, and our kin remain free of scrutiny. For now, anyway. Why it was a target will be a good question to try answering." Matt shrugs with Welsh fatalism. "Done is done, neh? FBI'll be at least as mooch Barney for th' dancers as they will fer us." Aubrey scoots across over towards Kaz as she crouches next to the metis. The young Fianna leans across to the other woman as she whispers quietly, seeming to have an expression of lightly concerned. As the conversation goes on, a noiseless shadow flickers at the western edge of the treeline. Sun-Stare crouches silently in the lowermost branches of an old tree, hispo form camoflaged by foliage. Robert narrows his eyes as he looks at Eamon. "Because I, as Alpha, do not want the police investigating the comings and goings of those who lived there and the one who owned the building. If you can be certain that no one could identify, say, John as someone who was coming and going from the building regularly and could possibly be identified as a potential drug dealer and thus someone to more closely watch and investigate, and would be willing to stake your own /life/ on that, then that is one thing. Until then, act, don't just criticize and hope for the best." Brittany notes, "John won't be in their database. We took care of that in Seattle." She then shakes her head, adding, "The rest, however? I'd rather not take the risk." Rina nods a curt agreement. "Some of us don't want police attention," she mutters, with a wry glance over to Salem. Eamon nods. "All right, all right. It's my job to question, y'know? I just hope this doesn't blow up in our faces." John murmurs, "My ID's pretty limited. No real proof I exist. But there's others to think of. Rina has a file with the FBI that's longer than my arm." Tobin listens attentively to all that is said, not missing the fact the Eamon left something out and waiting for the right time to add it. Wildfire growls at something recently said as he continues to translate for the lone Talon. Geoffrey sees all sorts of forms all over the place as he comes on scene from the distance. So, to be the least intrusive he shifts down two four legs and circles wide about the group. So, a black jackal approaches toward his elder. Kristine's head turns back and forth, as if she was watching a tennis game. She's quite, otherwise. Serf cocks his head, then shakes it in confusion. A mumbled growl rumbles in his human throat. Robert nods. "This should deflect attention to a small cell of international terrorists. At the least, the authorities will be checking rental records and plane manifests for a long time."He waits for a moment, then asks again, "Are there any other assaults from the Spirals yet anyone knows about?" Sepdet says quietly, "Questioning is good, but not merely for the sake of questioning, when so much else is at stake this night." Her eyes round in faint shock at the jackal picking his way through the assortment of elders to her place by Ouroboros. She points Tatiana towards him hurriedly. Kaz thinks, then shakes her head. "Ain't heard of none." Aubrey lets out a light sigh of relief, but she also give Kaz a second glance. "Sometimes I wish I could be in two places at once." She sighs again softly, "Hope things will be alright," she mutters lowly. Then she gives the Gnawer a hearty pat on the shoulder before she retakes her place next to Matt. Andrea shakes her head. ~Not yet,~ she says, the short statement easier on her throat. Kristine just shakes her head in answer. Robert then turns to Eamon. "You started to speak of the spirits earlier. Do you have anything else to add about them beyond what you ad Andrea reported?" Eamon shakes his head. "That's pretty much it. Nothing other than what Andrea expanded on. Tobin, you got anything to add that I might've forgotten?" John tilts his head up again to grunt, "When we got time, Rhya, I got a question for Andrea-Rhya... and I think hearing the answers would probably benefit us all." Sun-Stare inches down along the trunk on the tree, vaguely simian as she flexes claws deep into the treebark. The Hispo swings a glance towards Sepdet across the clearing, chuffs lowly, and leaps to the ground. She moves unobtrusively to the Strider elder's side, head held low in vage respect. Tobin steps forward, back straight and head up, and speaks for the first time since coming here. "The only other thing of note, was of the spirit that the merlin said it had never seen before. I asked for a description, and the merlin said that it was very large, like a big pile of mud with arms and legs, and it moved very slowly. The merlin didn't get close to it, though, and said it didn't do anything unusual or significant." His voice is clear and confident as he speaks, and he takes a step back into place when he's done. As more and more people begin chiming in and the slang starts to get out of hand, Luc rolls up onto his feet and heads back toward the woods to sit near a tree. Disgruntled, he shifts back into the wolf form. The athro Gaian frowns slightly, then gives both Sepdet and Andrea meaningful looks. "Thank you," he says, nodding to Tobin. To John, he asks, "Does it have to do with her pack's scouting? That will be covered in time. If something else, though, ask." John shakes his head slowly. It's the scouting, alright. Aubrey looks up for a moment as she was in thought. Then raises her hand breifly, but she declines as she looks up at the elders. Robert nods in response. "Soon, then. Are there any who were on the first scouting on the eastern side of the bawn here currently?" he calls, looking around. He looks at his watch, then suggests, "The Mother Tongue would be completely safe soon, as the park closes. We should be the only ones here." Road-Rage does the Silent thing, and settles to a quick seat by Sepdet's side. A very quiet chuff is offered up in greeting. "H'rugglings," Andrea murmurs. "Possibly." She changes languages, as request, but seems otherwise unbothered. Robert looks around the gathered group. "None, then?" he asks. Tobin nods to Robert as he takes his place by Cameron and Aubrey once more. Clasping his hands behind his back he once again waits his turn. It's going to be a while, but he's patient. Rina wrinkles her nose, and leans over to John. "You get to whisper in my ear," she murmurs quietly. Serf grimly sticks to homid form after the alpha's admonishment, though he's obviously unhappy with being the last of his pack in that form. Wildfire grumbles to himself. Someone had to translate. He then barks out that he is not routinely invited on scouting missions. Kaz says, "It was Yi and Leonard and... a couple other people I forget. Mitch, I think." Sepdet raises a hand. "My pack was there. They found what appeared to be a metis strung up with his bones melted, near the Lone Boulder. Retreated quickly when they heard whipporwill cries." Robert nods to Sepdet. "THank you. Also, if you could speak about the visions?" At the mention of the Visions, Kristine's eyes quickly snap to Sepdet, and just waits.. Touch Deer looks to Kaz at the mention of Leonard. John leans over and begins murmuring quietly to Rina, but not much. Nothing's warranted it, yet. Sepdet rises to her feet, dropping into a tongue she doesn't have to fight. ~Many of the sept have dreamed, cubs to elders. Some see the totems of Magpie leaving or Buffalo gored by his horns. Others have endured the caern's suffering, death, and pain. Sometimes an Eye and a face seem to watch us, other times it is Dancers, fomori. Sometimes I see a winged white figure bleeding into the pool, the waters stained red, as when the Wheel Renewed's heart was raped by ben Isaac's demons. And finally, a great many have glimpsed a tower in a ruined land that rises forever, climbed its spiral stair. Some of us rush the tower: Andrea, Eligio, Cyllan, and mages that have allied with us before. A storm boils overhead, demons dance in the clouds, stone gargoyles ring its top like a wall, and a small white statue of a winged child lies at the heart. I see a circle of signs far too ordered for the Wyrm's madness, that seem to speak of some ritual, binding order, chaos, and perhaps the Triat themselves. Words. A name: Marbuel.~ She folds her arms. ~A mage, Robert-rhya. Every dream convinces me the more.~ Robert's watch starts beeping. "Okay," he says. "From here, we should be safe, between the spirits that've been bound to the area for the night and the rangers." At Sepdet's story, he frowns, then shifts up. ~THat could be a problem. I know little of them.~ John's translation stops at the mention of mages. And his teeth grind. Audibly. Sun-Stare crouches soundlessly at Sepdet's side, but not before giving Road-Rage a judicious sniff and bowling the smaller cub over with a scarred shoulder. The Hispo lifts her single ear towards her elder, and listens. Andrea's lips tighten as she keeps her attention to Sepdet. With relief, Serf drops back into lupus and heads for his pack. Kaz mutters, "Down boy," at John. Kristine turns to look at Brigid, and moves to whisper in her sister's ear at the mention of Mages. A cinnamon-colored cub perches on the edge of the meadow, rather intimidated by the large gathering of...Garou? Four-Leaves sniffs the air. Yes. And definitely many. She lopes further in, in time to hear Sepdet's speech, canting her head and waiting till she finishes, then sidles up to Kaz. Mama Ears, she says sheepishly, My apologies for my tardiness. I...got lost. Salem finally looks up, staring toward Sepdet with lips compressed into a thin, tight, harried-looking grimace. His fingers dig into the sleeve of his coat. Kaz reaches out a hand and scritches Lyra's ears. "Dude, me too. Don' worry 'bout it. Jus' be glad y'came t'th' party at all, y'know?" Brittany mutters darkly under her breath, eyes aiming at her knees, lest she give some thought away. Rina sets a hand on John's wrist, and she leans toward him. "What?" she whispers, almost inaudible. Brigid's mouth curls faintly in a smile and she shakes her head at Kris's words, murmuring back to her quickly, hands clasped very tightly in her lap. When Sepdet speaks of the visions, Tobin's posture changes every so slightly, becoming more tense, more alert. He watches the Strider keenly. Eamon blinks as Sepdet makes her announcement. "Hey, weird, I had a dream like that. With Magpie. And Marbuel, wasn't that the demon who was with ben Isaac?" Sepdet grimaces. ~Some of us have had ill luck and fair with them. I was thinking this was your friend Carter, John, but there are a few other possibilities.~ Her eyes drift to Brigid. ~Which I'm trying to track down.~ John murmurs back to Rina, without completing the rest of the translation. A simple, short syllable, laden with loathing, and acid hate. "Mage." One could imagine the Walker's hackles were rising, despite his form. Kaz blinks at Eamon. "Say hey what? Expand on that, dude?" Road-Rage resigns to lying down next to his elder, paying attention enough to understand without getting creepy dreams jammed in his brain. Well, he was going to until he was knocked on his ass. He gets back up and shakes his fur out, followed by a snerf at the hispo. Again, he resigns to an attentive seat. Susan nods to Eamon. ~Magpie~ she says, pointing to herself. Kristine gives Brigid that 'Oh hell no' look. Aubrey shifts lightly uncomfortably as Sepdet speaks. The girl simply folds her arms to the mention of the mage, although she looks around to the rest of the party. Garou speech or not, Rina catches something in the Strider's growl. Her jaw tightens when John confirms it, and she swallows. Unobtrusively, she strokes his arm, trying to soothe the edgy Ahroun. Andrea's dark eyes turn to John. She regards the ahroun's seething attitude almost absently. Brittany glances to Kristine, and nods. When Road-Rage goes head over heels...head over paws, whatever, Four-Leaves peers at him in the darkness, then glances around at everyone, before looking up at her elder. Why does this ~mage~ bother everyone so much? Eamon nods. "Back when ben Isaac was tryin' to take over the caern, there was this demon with him, named Marbuel. Ben Isaac got killed, Marbuel got away. No idea what it means, though." Brigid directs a faint nod to Sepdet, tiny smile still stuck to her face for the moment. Whether there's a genuinely happy/amused/pleasant emotion behind it is hard to tell as she slips back into a blank expression. Sepdet suddenly freezes and utters an extremely loud curse, taking an involuntary step backwards and nearly tripping over her favorite elder. Andrea startles back toward Sepdet as the small Strider nearly trips over Andrea's outstretched legs. "Sepdet?" Kaz says, with vague disgust, "It means we got random entities coming back for revenge /again/." Just call her Jumps-To-Conclusions. Sepdet grips her shoulder. ~The darkness bane,~ she says, keeping her voice level with some effort. ~Little Bear just found it. He is running.~ Rina looks to Sepdet distractedly, a flash of worry in her eyes for the Strider. Brittany glances to Sepdet, warily, thumbs sliding back to her hood, then draws it from her neck to cover her whole head and mouth. "He comes this way?" Sun-Stare snaps upright immediately, making a move to steady the elder Strider with a long-fingered paw. Kristine looks at Brittany, then looks at Brigid, then just rubs her forehead in a helpless mometion. SHe glances up and blinks. She's on her feet quickly at mention of the bane. Andrea's eyes widen slightly as she waits for Sepdet to say more. Road-Rage pulls a sort of doubletake as his elder breaks out the fun words and nearly trips over someone. With little else he can do, he tries to make sure no elder-tipping happens tonight. Sepdet shakes her head. ~Not close.~ Her expression loosens as she attempts to concentrate. ~Bawn. Umbra.~ Tobin's attention had wandered from Sepdet to others present as the discussion went on, but his head snaps back around to her as she mentions this news. Tensely he waits for more. Four-Leaves' ears flicks. That didn't really make things much clearer for the cub, but she settles on the ground, ears pricked towards Sepdet. And look, everyone was antsy again. The red wolf sighs, lays her head on her paws mournfully, not comprehending most of the conversation. Touch Deer looks to Sepdet, lips pulled thin at the mention of his tribesmate. "Is he getting away?" Andrea asks calmly. "Or does he need reinforcements?" Brigid sits up a bit more alertly, her right hand straying to rest against the side of Kris' leg in a gesture that's meant to steady both Fangs. Peacekeeper growls lowly. ~Even if we'd be a bit late, if he needs help, we can at least send a party in for him.~ John grunts sideways at Rina - still twitchy - "Leonard's in trouble. This is feeling like superbowl over the radio," he rumbles, gruffly. Kristine nods her agreement towards Robert, turning her head back towards Sepdet. She'll volunteer, if it'll come down to it, but it's wise to wait to see if it's needed first. Brittany half-stands, an action which blocks Brigid's right and Kristine's left from most eyes, as she asks, "How many do you need, Sepdet?" Rina presses her lips together, and glances over at John. Her expression is guarded. Salem turns his head, just enough to look briefly over at John and Rina, saying nothing. Sepdet bares her teeth in annoyance. ~No, he seems to be getting free. And coming /here/. Shall I tell him to keep the hell away?~ Road-Rage flicks an ear distantly at Four-Leaves in greeting. Gotta love the cub-to-cub stick-togetherness. Right. Anyway he gets back to being generally attentive of the gathering convo. Peacekeeper snorts. ~Don't come directly, and romp through streams. We can hear his reports tomorrow, if we need.~ With that, he turns to Ouroboros, conveniently near Sepdet. ~More recntly, you went scouting last night. Please tell the sept what you found?~ John tilts his head to one side, as he regards Sepdet. "If he lures it out here, and there's twenty or more of us..." he muses, softly. His jaw's still tight, and he trails into silence, looking to Peacekeeper, expectantly. Brittany sits back down, now, but doesn't remove her cowl, as of yet. She touches Kristine's thigh for attention, whispering something to the Fang, Like a Greek statue come to life, the regal woman before you has a cold, impassionate beauty about her. In her early thirties, her skin is still smooth and pale, her eyes a faint blue, and her hair snow white, giving her a washed-out look. Her classic features and perfect posture lend to her elegance, with high, arching brows, slender lips, and chisled features. Her neck is slender and swanlike, her body long and lean, like a wineglass, and her fingers are the long, tapered digits of a musician. Her hair is a perfect ivory in shade, in a soft and stylish bob that falls midway between her shoulders and chin. Her voice is low, soft, and tinged with an Old South accent. She's clad in a form-fitting black body stocking, complete with gloves, boots and a removable (And currently removed) hood. It looks as if she's some sort of bare-bones commando, but has none of the additional goodies one would expect, save a single black belt, upon which dangles a sheathed Klaive. Sun-Stare hunkers down nearby her tiny elder, posture protective and gaze alert. Wildfire snarls a bit, stopping his translation to the Talon. He stands up, shifting to the war-form, a rather large axe appearing in his hands. Peacekeeper nods curtly at John. ~If it followed him this far, it would give us good opportunity. I would say it does not leave the bawn. Consolidate the holdings before expanding.~ Four-Leaves lifts her head at Road-Rage's greeting, a greeting bark rising in her throat- and quickly suppressed into something like a low cough. Hairball! She opts for an ear-swivelling hello instead, then catches sight of large sharp objects just appearing in crinos' hands and rubs against Kaz. Mama Ears? she asks tentatively. Is something- is a Dancer coming here? Sepdet stands rigid a few seconds more and then slumps, nodding tightly to Peacekeeper. ~He's been told.~ Her clipped words have rather seething rage bottled behind her teeth, obviously half born of worry. Kaz tells Lyra, quietly, "Bane. Leonard was scouting and got found." Kristine turns down to Brittany, gives a nod, then back up, looking still at Sepdet. SHe lets her arms dangle at her sides, but she doesn't sit down. She's just looking for any sign that her help's needed. Andrea starts the story, once she finishes measuring Sepdet with her eyes. She turns toward the group and shifts herself, so she's in a form that can speak Garou more easily. Road-Rage leans somewhat comfortingly against Sepdet. Yes, nothing like having something four-legged and fuzzy leaning on you to make life suck less. Or at least thats what he's going for. Who knows, maybe the ahroun cub did get a hand on that whole rage control concept after all. Brittany passes more information quietly, this time to Brigid. Rina watches Sepdet, tightlipped, clearly picking up the Strider's worry. Sun-Stare casts a quick glance at the exposed meadow, and borders of deep forest. ~This place is a bottleneck,~ she ventures, raising her scarred voice clearly. ~It's a place for ambush.~ Sepdet sits down so as not to block Andrea as she begins to speak, obviously still somewhat distracted and tightlipped. She shakes her head at her tribesmates, settling her hands one on each jackal's back. ~He'll be fine,~ she mutters. Somehow it sounds like a threat. Brigid nods tightly at Brittany, though it's quite obvious from her expression that whatever was said does not necessarily make her very happy. Um, says Four-Leaves, rather shy of talking to this group, I...don't think there's an ambush here. I came in just fine, didn't see anybody, even when I was lost. Nobody's around. Having spoken, the cub tries to hide by squishing against Kaz more. Eamon rolls his eyes. "I must have words with him." Kaz murmurs, "Nah, kiddo, /we/ could ambush /it/." Sun-Stare shakes her head agitatedly, the stub of her lost ear twitching. ~No,~ she rasps. ~It's a place for /us/ to stage an ambush. Does the bane follow?~ She glances back to her elder, at this. This is a strange composition of sand-colored fur and lanky muscle: canine at first glance, yet the creature holds itself in a way that suggests the ability to stand upright. Size brings to mind the prehistoric canids of biology textbooks. Its face is equipped with direly massive jaws, and a savage set of teeth to match; its limbs end in a peculiar set of long-jointed claws. The observant might notice a few details, if given a chance to look: one of the animal's pointed ears is nothing but a stub of scar tissue, and what might have been atail-like appendage is now truncated. Various other scars mark the tawny pelt, and the creature's wet-gold eyes gleam with unmistakable sharpness. Andrea says, ~While I was at Western Eye, I received aid in making difficult talens. My packmate Patrick,~ She gestures at the Garou in question. ~Can turn invisible, but the rest of us cannot. We approached from the south. About halfway into the bawn, we could feel the change. After some cautious looking, Tempered-Blade and Faces-Shadows were able to determine it was a sniper stand. We got past the guard using the talens and a gift. Further investigation showed he wore communications gear, had equipment to see in the dark, and was himself not Garou, but a fomor. We went further in. They have wounded the land, but not tainted it yet. Much of the cover is cut or trampled, but their very destruction helped cover our scent and what noise we could not muffle. About five minutes run outside the caern, we began finding a maze of traps--tripwires and deadfalls. Faces-Shadows flew on and saw they've also used fallen trees to create a barricade around the caern itself. They are well-fortified.~ Kaz mutters, "There's a shock." ~I could still see into the Umbra,~ Andrea continues. ~Though I did not see many of the banes that we've heard of from where we were. I saw one patrol of banes, strong, but not bearing any particularly deadly charms. We could also hear things--a chainsaw off and on and, most importantly, before we retreated, we heard a conversation.~ Eamon chuckles. "They're using too much tech. That'll cost 'em." John grunts back to Eamon, "Not if the Wyld spirits which despised the tech are gone." John continues his translation to Rina. Rina nods at Eamon's words, grimly. She leans a little toward John, listening as he whispers to her. Interest sparks in her eyes as she watches Andrea. Kaz tells John, "Yah, but we got folks as can jam shit." Sun-Stare snaps her jaws shut, deferring uncharacteristically to Andrea. She lapses into listening again. The named adren Uktena stands and adds, ~Actually, they've finished one barricade and are working on a larger outer one. Near the middle was a big bonfire, bigger than this one,~ he adds, pointing to the Garou's fire, ~and they are ... doing stuff around it. Like stuff to make some nasty hentai shit seem pretty tame.~ Eamon nods at Kaz. Kaz looks blank. "Hentai?" John winces. And continues translating. If cubs could blush...Four-Leaves covers her muzzle with one of her paws, but doesn't quite become invisible the way she wished she could at the moment. Cartoons. Animated, er, mm, sexual situations, explains the cub sheepishly. Road-Rage erfs quietly to himself, his ears flatting out against his head. A sort of news he doesn't like to hear about. A long story nobody wants to hear about, really. Alas he can't help a near laugh at the bad Hentai reference. Kristine reaches her hand up to smack her forehead at the Hentai comment. Brother... Patrick shifts back down to explain, "Japanese anime porn. These guys go beyond tentacle sex." Rina pales slightly, and murmurs something to John in Italian. Brittany asks, simply, "And what of the burial grounds?" Sepdet rubs Tatt's thin pelt silently, still taut as a branch bent to the breaking point, but focussing on the conversation at hand. The translation, when it comes, does not seem to help her mood at all. Andrea continues patiently, seemingly unbothered by the multitude of eyes, ~We killed their Ritemaster in the initial assault. I think it was the woman that I struck with gifts when Seeker fought her with claws, though I'm not certain. They are uncertain of their current ritemaster. Though they should be holding the ritual to desecrate our caern in a matter of days, their ritemaster holds them to the time of our strength, to the full moon. Their warleader is an adren and well-respected. He was the one that ordered the assault on the Safehouse, and the speakers expected a sneak attack on the Junkyard and the Rialto during the dark of the moon.~ Eamon looks disgusted at the mention of Dancers having sex. "Jesus fucking Christ." Sun-Stare blinks once, twice--losing the reference. The Strider is far too agitated; her scarred hide bristles along the hispo's back as she begins to pace tightly, tensely. Kaz says, "Uh, yummy," to Patrick, and then settles into shutting up and listening, again. Tobin pales a notch or two at the varied accounts, but otherwise remains stoic. John shoots a look towards Peacekeeper, indicating he'd like to share at some point. And murmurs to Rina, "Probably isn't. It's... not a rare thing. With the Wyrm." Salem lets his veiled gaze drop back to the ground, his shoulders hunched. Rina nods curtly. "Still," she murmurs. The woman glances to Salem. Wildfire plants the head of his axe upon the ground, resting his clawed hands upon the butt-end of the weapon's shaft. He looks every bit the executioner. ~Thank you, Bitter-Cup-rhya, for telling this in the Mother Tongue.~ He's obviously making a point. ~Did you hear, however, where the fuck they are getting the information about where we gather?~ Eamon nods at Owen. "Yeah, I'd like to find that out myself." Brigid's cheeks turn an interesting shade of pink at some point during the description, a shade that fades after a bit as she rubs the bridge of her nose and refocuses her briefly distracted attention on the business at hand. ~What we learned from this conversation was this.~ Andrea holds up one finger. ~The planned attacks.~ Another. ~The ritual time. Much as they attack us during ours, we could attack them when they are distracted and bleeding themselves.~ And a third. ~A handful of names, including their existing and former warleaders, and their new ritemaster.~ Turning to Robert, she adds, ~When reporting to Kaz earlier, I realized something. We know their names; they had no reason to be secret in their own stronghold. We can call for the silver river to rise and wash them into the mouth of Erebus.~ Eamon says "We can also set up an ambush for them when they hit the Rialto and the Junkyard." Andrea shakes her head at Wildfire. ~That, they did not say. They may have spying spirits, or a scrying stone, or yet some other method. They did not speak of any particular informer.~ Kaz says, dryly, to Eamon, "No shit. Junkyard's preferable, my Kin's doing some work already on that front." Rina nods at Eamon's words, her eyes brighter as she follows the discussion. Sepdet exhales as Andrea lets out that bombshell, emphasizing the point more for morale's sake than redundancy: ~Flush them from the face of Gaia. Painfully.~ Peacekeeper blinks, taken slightly aback. ~I ... didn't even consider Erebus. If you have confidence this could be done, then I recommend making the attempt. At best, it will cripple them further. At worst, if it succeeds, it's one less Spiral.~ John frowns. ~Erebus? Someone explain this to me?~ Kristine winces, slightly, at the mention of Erebus, but doesn't say anything. Not a pleasant thought. Tobin clears his throat and steps forward again. "Ah, Rhyas? If I may. What about Agatha-rhya? She had turned, I understand. And perhaps they had taken what she knew before sending her back here, to perhaps test us?" He hides his nervousness fairly well, but by no means completely. Brittany shakes her head at John. "Get with me later." Matt's eyes widen. Ooh. Silver river. Good one. Andrea bows her head. ~It is a difficult ritual,~ she says. ~But they are badly in need of Charyss's attentions. It is for such things that she gifts us with that shard of her power.~ Shadow-of-Blood shudders at the mention of the Silver River. Purge them. Send them to the suffering. Kaz tells John, briefly, "Hell. You know. Expiation of sins? So basically, Andrea's pack can stick 'em in there." Four-Leaves nudges Kaz gently. Child-Holder and I met the Strider kinwoman, the one with two pups of her own and is the equivalent of a theurge. She has offered home, supplies- whatever is necessary. She was looking for you, she too had a vision. She and Child-Holder discussed it. The cub's ears flicker. And there is my shop, as well, should the rest of the tribe need another safehouse. John looks sideways towards Kaz, expression darkening - but with a thoughtful bent. "We only have to know their names? I had no idea we could send 'em there remotely." Sepdet nods to Tobin, but presses the point home, gesturing towards Brittany. ~No. /Everyone/ needs to understand what Andrea is saying. She swam the silver river. She can call on its power. It is a force of Gaia, which can cleanse the Wyrm from anything or anyone... with pure molten silver. It is not something to call on lightly.~ Wildfire can't help but grin at the news of this rite, an expression that doesn't come across as very appealing on the Get ahroun. Kaz evidently heard Andrea's news earlier. She shakes her head again, still somewhat awestricken, and then asks Lyra, quietly, "Yeah? When'd you see her?" Brittany shakes her head. "We can't do that." She ammends, quickly, "Rather, we can't do that to their Alpha and the one above him." Andrea turns to John. ~The ritual raises the silver river to fill the Gauntlet for the one for whom it was called,~ she explains. ~It will not take effect until they step across the Gauntlet. If it is called in poor judgement, the Ritemaster will also be taken to again purify in the silver waters.~ Touch Deer grimly looks down towards the ground as people discuss the Near Realm he just recently returned from. Rina raises both eyebrows, and gives John a wide-eyed look. "Jesus fuck," she whispers. The cub thinks for a moment. Two days- three days ago? Four-Leaves murmurs. Yes, yes, three days. Andrea turns toward Brittany as she dissents. John eyes Brittany. "Why's their Aplha immune?" Remembering himself, he repeats the question in the Mother's Tongue. Peacekeeper nods absently to Tobin. ~That is one working hypothesis,~ he tells the cub. He looks back over at Andrea speculatively. ~These are the perfect targets for that rite,~ he admits. ~On this, I defer to your judgment. You know both the rite and Erebus.~ Brittany stands, here, looking between Andrea and Robert, before asking, "If I may?" Sun-Stare narrows those yellow-gold eyes, bares teeth at the mention of Erebus, and continues to pace like a caged jaguar. ~And what if we lose our first Ritemaster?~ The question is snarled, addressed to no one in particular. Sepdet looks towards Brittany incredulously. ~These may be the same Dancers that have taken at least three caerns in the northwest. If this is not the time, must we wait til Phoenix' last sign has fallen before us?~ Andrea's already looking at Brittany, though Sun-Stare's statement gets a quick inquiring look. Tobin steps back into place beside his packmates. Peacekeeper looks at Brittany curiously, much like one might look at a bug, trying to decide whether or not to step on it. ~You may /briefly/, Sterling-the-Mostly-Pure.~ Wildfire grumbles lowly from where he stands at this turn in the proceedings. He manages to keep his mouth shut, though. Kaz says, "Huh," to Lyra. "I already got with her. Mebbe she had a new one. I'll call her, later." Tobin frowns as his Elder is insulted, but he keeps his eyes on the ground and his thoughts to himself, though. Brittany points to Sepdet. "Exactly why we cannot do it." From there, she rolls her words, quickly, but clearly. "John and I both went through Seattle's fall, and you well remember that Hanford and I were closely tied as well. If anyone here wants them gone more than I, I will be impressed. However..." She points to Andrea, noting, "The Silver Forge allows a return. It can be overcome, it can be escaped. You do not leave without change, but you *can* leave. This one is too cunning, too crafty, and too dangerous to be left alive. He must die, convincingly, completely, and beneath our claws, or we will never know if he will return to haunt another. It is not our Caern, our sept, which is at risk, but all across this region, and from here, who knows how far? I won't risk another Caern for our own's safety." She finishes, to say, "Their leaders must be killed." Eamon grins at Brittany. "That's 'briefly'. B-R-I-E-F-L-Y." Sepdet shakes her head. ~You don't understand the forge at all, Princess.~ Kaz says, "So explain it to her. And /us/, too." Peacekeeper stands aside for others to answer, looking towards Ouroboros. Rina purses her lips, her expression focused as she watches and listens. John grunts lowly towards Brittany, "There is always redemption, Jefferson." Kristine goes back to looking like she's watching a game of tennis again, her head turning to listen to Brittany, then to Sepdet, then back again...she's going to have a stiff neck before the night's over. Eamon says "Even if they could return, which is highly unlikely for garou like them, the taint will be burnt out of them, right? They won't be a problem anymore." Wildfire drums one hand's fingers on the back of the other, still resting on the axe's hilt. Andrea says flatly, ~You do not leave Erebus until the last taint is burned from your body and spirit. There is no tricking the Brood. There is no deceiving the Mistress of the Silver Lake. You burn until all hatred, all cowardice, all taint is burned from you.~ She takes a single step toward Brittany. Her voice is even, measured, ~You scream, though no one hears you. You see visions. Your soul is flayed open and found wanting. Not until you are pure do you find the shore, no matter how much you may wish it. No matter your power.~ Salem keeps his mouth shut; the grim set of his face hardly changes. Sepdet turns towards Ouroboros as well, respect in her eyes. Brigid simply curls her hand gradually into a grip on Kris' pants leg which happens to be beneath it, holding her breath somewhat and listening intently. Sun-Stare listens intently to Brittany, though she continues to circle and occasionally twitch. An irritated glance is thrown towards the moon's face. ~Words are cheap and multiply like rabbits,~ she growls under her breath. Four-Leaves winces, not liking this murderous discussion at all. If there is the chance they can be saved, we had best try for it, she says softly. The worst that happens is that we must...kill them afterwards. Kristine winces as she listens to Andrea's discription. "Remind me..not to fall in," She murmurs to herself, though, Brigid could probably hear her clearly. If she did, she'd probably be in there for a long, long time. Brittany turns from Andrea, after a tense moment, to look to Robert. "You are warleader, I will accept your commands. You gave me permission to say what I did. Thank you." With that, she sits, right hand in her lap, left wrapped tightly about the blade of her hip-bound Klaive. She's clearly unhappy, but not about to resist. Touch Deer folds his arms, exhaling slowly as Andrea finishes speaking to Brittany. Tobin looks like he's having trouble staying his homid. He's shut his eyes tightly and gritted his teeth as he wavers back and forth from glabro to homid. As Andrea finishes her rebuttal he calms down and takes a deep breath, staying in homid now. Those near him can hear him murmur to himself, "There, she explained. Happy now?" Sepdet growls something under her breath. Andrea smiles without humor. ~Believe me, Sterling. Death is far, far kinder. And for one that has Danced, their suffering will be measured in years, not months.~ Kaz adds, as if dredging it from memory, "Ain't the story that they eventually die, but they get t'go home t'Gaia afterwards?" When John murmurs to her, Rina answers, softly, "A-fucking-men." Sun-Stare shakes out her fur violently, and snaps at the air. ~Enough," she snarls, stalking back towards her elder, eyes blazing. ~Which direction are the scouts?~ There's a demanding edge in her posture, and the Galliard's hackles are at full-mast. Kristine shifts slightly in her position, frowning, and looking like she very much wants to say something, but, is holding back. John, by contrast to the Strider, seems to have calmed significantly. He sits back, frowning, not bothering to translate half the growls and chuffs that fly about. Faces-Shadows answers Kaz, ~Perhaps they go to Gaia, and she sends them back as changed Garou. I am certain they would not return in the body of a Spiral. Regardless, in time, if they leave, they are cleansed.~ Andrea finally turns to Tobin. ~It may have been Agatha,~ she agrees, more quietly. ~Or Biter, in his terror. Or others. Or it may have been spies that watched for places where unusual things happened and investigated. It is certain they know, however they have come by the knowledge.~ Peacekeeper looks around over the concolation. ~Is there other information to be shared? John, you had a question of Andrea?~ John shakes his head slightly, jerked from the contemplation and easy translation. ~No question, as much as information. Related to what the Dancers have been doing.~ Sepdet's hands suddenly grip her knees in a spasm. Her expression smooths out and goes almost completely blank. Kristine blinks once or twice, watching Sepdet. "Um, Sepdet-rhya?" Yup, she forgets the Mother-Tongue at the moment. John frowns, eyeing Sepdet and Tatt. Then his eye strays to the woods. Touch Deer looks at Sepdet, attentive. Brigid relaxes her grip somewhat and looks up at Kris, following her gaze to Sepdet, whereupon she frowns slightly and slowly shifts to sit on one knee, the other raised to her chest. Tobin blinks, realizing that he's being spoken to. Belatedly he nods at Andrea. Wildfire decides at this moment to heft the axe up, resting it against his shoulder. He also look out into the trees. ~News, Hope-Star-rhya? I am in need of seperating a head from its owner.~ Sepdet shakes her head at Kristine. ~My packmate may die of his folly.~ There is a note of quiet finality in her voice. ~He is too far away to aid.~ Kaz blinks. "The fuck you mean, too far away." She stands up, abruptly. "Hello, more fuckin' people die when we can help it? I don't think so. Where the fuck is he?" Sun-Stare bristles at the change in her elder's posture, digging her talons into the earth. Almost choking on her own frustration, she releases a full-throated, if broken roar at Sepdet. ~/Martyr/,~ she spits, the most acidic of insults. ~TELL me where.~ Kristine takes a step forward, "I'm with Kaz on this one.." She glances down to Brittany for a moment, then back to Sepdet, expecting an answer. Brittany hisses something to the two Fangs at her sides, then fumbles behind her back with her right hand. Sepdet growls. ~Eastern mountains. And not answering again. Can you run faster than me, Tatiana?~ Aubrey has remained very quiet, in fact her eyes do close as she listens only to words. Occasionally when some of the words are harshly brought out does she open her eyes to peer at the person who had spoken them. She does seem to be tentive as the Fianna suddenly blinks towards Sepdet and shifts uneasily. Finally she looks towards Tobin, lightly tugging at his arm. Andrea tenses again as Sepdet speaks. Sun-Stare's canine roar gets a baring of teeth, but Sepdet's words pull Andrea's attention back. Peacekeeper hazards, ~North side of the bawn was where Chaser was talking of going, last I heard. I need to stay, ancoring the bindings I made to keep us secret, but others may certainly go.~ Wildfire spits. ~He should pass what he learned and die like a Garou before letting himself be captured.~ Tobin has tensed up again, and he flinches slightly when Aubrey tugs on his sleeve. He leans over close to her, a questioning look on his face. Sun-Stare narrows her eyes down at the tiny Theurge. ~Maybe not, sister-rhya. But I have enough gut in me to try.~ With that, the scarred Galliard whips around and stretches into lupus even as she breaks into a run. Andrea turns to Eamon. ~You can find him, can you not?~ she asks. ~Even if he does not answer?~ Aubrey arches her brow towards Tobin before she lightly gives a shrug of her shoulders. She apparently doesn't say anything as she looks off again towards Andrea, to which her attention has been now drawn towards. John kisses Rina on the cheek, running a few fingers through her hair, then rises slowly. Eyeing the others. "He's one of ours, and rather than direct him to safety, we led him /away/ from us... Even if this is futile, the Strider will most likely need help. If only to drag her away." He shifts quickly, already starting off, after Sun-Stare. Kaz growls, "Hail to the fuckin' chief, baybee, I ain't lettin' fuckheads with no fuckin' pack jump off into the unknown with no fuckin' backup. Lyra. Get home. Matt? C'mon." And she's shifting into lupus herself, lighting out after Tatt. Eamon nods. "Yeah, I can find him. Can I get there before he gets himself killed is the question." Andrea shrugs one shoulder. ~That part is not in our hands. We must run. Come. We follow.~ Kristine walks over to Eamon, "Hey, c'mon, Smiley. It's at least worth a shot, ya know. Be like old times, you'n me." Rina looks over to John, and then stares about as the Garou rise to help someone that far away. "This is insane," she mutters. Sepdet shoots towards Eamon, ~He will live or die in the next few minutes,~ as she rises to jog after her tribesmate. Eamon shifts to lupus and heads off into the woods. Brigid glances between Brittany and Kris a moment and stands, carefully, arms held out slightly for balance. "Against my own better judgement, I will stay here." the theurge says quietly, stiffly folding her arms across her chest. Brittany watches the rescue party go, nodding at Kristine, then draws a black stretch of cloth from her belt pouch, wrapping it around her left hand, calmly. "Hey, wait up!" Kristine looks to Brigid, a small look, before shifting to Lupus and following after Eamon and Sepdet. Wildfire doesn't prepare to run just yet even though, sure as shit, others are. Instead he looks to wards the current Alpha. ~Peacekeeper?~ Rina lets out a futile sigh, and gets to her feet, shrugging the jacket into place on her shoulders. Peacekeeper nods. ~We can finish later. Don't be stupid, but save him if you can.~ Wildfire nods once, then is off with the rest. Salem stirs himself, albeit sluggishly, as John moves, shifting downwards to wolf form to follow the rest. Brigid shifts her stance slightly, so that she's sort of hugging herself instead of looking stiff. She looks after those going off into the forest with a mixture of longing and frustration. Tobin sighs, looking back at Aubrey. "No point in us going, really. We've got another job to do." The Icewalker pauses, as he senses his packmate moving to follow him. He rounds immediately - now that others are on the chase - and snaps to the Dark One, Stay put. Guard my mate, now and until I get back. That's an order. Walks-Thin-Ice then turns again and follows the others. Rina clenches her fists at her sides. "John," she snaps, followed by a string of slightly terse Italian. Aubrey nods towards Tobin, looking breifly to Cameron also. "You suppose we should head somewhere and gather up our own plans?" she asks a bit quietly. Salem stops short at the Walker elder's order, and for a moment -- it's obvious in his lupine posture, just before he snaps back to birth form -- he looks relieved. Rising back onto two legs, the half-moon removes his sunglasses long enough to rub at his eyes. Peacekeeper notes, a bit belatedly, "As things seem to have gotten derailed, we'll finish tomorrow if possible. Enjoy some time together. Get to know the rest of the sept. Your lives will depend on each other.~ Cameron hitches one shoulder in a slightly bewildered shrug. "Gotta admit, I'm sunk for what to do right about now." He looks at the Athro, and tilts his head sideways, consideringly. Almost to himself he murmurs, "Oh well." Brittany glances to Peacekeeper, quiet, but with a mind obviously racing. Tobin nods at Aubrey, then decides to seize an opportunity. He takes a few steps closer to Peacekeeper and bows low. "Rhya, if I could ask a question?" Peacekeeper nods. ~Ask.~ Brigid half turns her head as Peacekeeper speaks again, snorts softly, and returns to looking out at where all of the others raced off to. Her posture is tense, almost harpstring-taut, and her eyes practically blaze with her own thoughts on the situation. Tobin straightens and speaks. "Cameron, Aubrey, and I are currently on our Rite of Passage. As part of our task we have taken it upon ourselves to see what kinds of spirits are gathered at what glens, to make it easier to find them when the time for making talens comes. We expected to get input on what was needed but obviously we've been interrupted. I was wondering, Rhya, if you had any particular requests or needs for certain kinds of talens, so that we might keep a watch for those spirits?" Rina hangs back as Tobin speaks for the group-- though she does give Cameron a taut, strained half-smile. She watches Robert, studying him. Brittany ties her hand off, using her teeth until she manages to say, to Brigid, "Keep an eye on the northeast. They'll be counter-scouting." Cameron adds lowly, "And there's a time-limit, happily." He stands, and starts to move over to Rina, now that her consort has left. He flumps down next to her unceremoniously. "Hey." Peacekeeper thinks for a moment, shifting back down before answering. "Do you know the talen that Andrea carries, that was given by our allies at Western Eye?" he asks, apropos of little. Tobin shakes his head briefly. "I do not, Rhya," he says simply. Salem replaces the dark glasses and shoves his hands into his coat pockets. Glancing back, he gives Cameron a dour, weary grimace. Aubrey gives a light shake of her head as she listens, although she thinks that Tobin might know more about tha talen. The girl looks over her shoulder towards Cameron for a moment before she turns her attention back to Tobin and Robert. Brigid gives a slight turn of her head to indicate that she heard Brittany, and gradually alters her watchful stance to accomodate that. Both hands clench her arms in a way that must be painful since her face pales a couple of shades. "It is a talen that frees bound spirits. Relying too much on talens could be dangerous," the alpha says with a small smile. "Still, there are always those who can be helpful. Trickster spirits, if they can be found, can be excellent for various things. For a fight, most predator spirits, from a wolf spirit to a flame to a hawk, will be appropriate. Turtle spirits are excellent for adding armor. Andrea could give a more comprehensive list, being a theurge, but that should be a good start, at least. Think of what an animal /means/--not just literally, but symbolically. The Umbra is the world of symbols." Cameron eyes the Alpha thoughtfully. "Rhya... I was thinking earlier. I remembered from the stories of other shifters, that the Raven shifters were our allies and scouts. Would Raven /spirits/ be willing to perform the same role?" Tobin nods slowly at Robert and says hesitantly. "Respectfully, Rhya, these things I know. I was wondering if /you/ in particular wanted anything." His eyes remain on the ground. Aubrey seems to be enlightened and gives a smile suddenly. Then she figets as she looks across the meadow before looking back upon Tobin. "I think what he means is that they need anything that is resouceful for the cause." she says out-loud, rather suddenly. Robert smiles at Aubrey. "Insightful," he comments. "At the moment, we have little. If you /need/ to have specific instructions, of three of that, four of this, then those will have to wait until after we can hammer out future plans tomorrow night. I can tell you we will need talens of stealth and talens of strength and talens of defense." Robert also nods to Cameron. "Sometimes they are, or can be. We have been using some this way already." Tobin nods at Robert and bows low again. "Thank you, Rhya," he says quietly, then backs away and turns back towards his packmates. Rina walks toward Robert, purposefully, and offers a hand. "You'd be Robert." Aubrey smiles towards Robert, "Thank you, rhya." she replies. Brigid stands stolidly in place, scanning her ordered direction, until someone tells her to move or stand down otherwise. Salem moves away from the bonfire's light. In the shadows, he lowers himself to the grass, sitting crosslegged, head lowered. Brittany stands, here, motioning to Tobin. "Care for a travelling companion on the return?" Robert looks the woman over, giving her a smile as he shakes the offered hand. "And you'd hae a name up on me, though I think I heard John referring to you a moment ago? Welcome to the sept." Tobin walks over to stand by his tribemates for the first time. He eyes Brittany warily. "Just as long as you keep your silver well away from me, Rhya," he says and then quirks a smile.