It is currently 19:19 Pacific Time on Thu Aug 8 2002. Currently in Saint Claire, it's a sunny day. The temperature is 79 degrees Fahrenheit (26 degrees Celsius). The wind is currently coming in from the east at 5 mph. The barometric pressure reading is 30.30 and falling, and the relative humidity is 34 percent. The dewpoint is 49 degrees Fahrenheit (9 degrees Celsius.) Currently the moon is in the waxing No Moon phase (1% full). Yellow River Medicine Shop- Upstairs Apartment The apartment has several rooms, the living room, Lyra's bedroom in the attic, Meiran's bedroom, the Laundry room/Bathroom, and the Kitchenette. The living room is one long rectangle, and shows signs of an Asian influence to say the least. The only item of furniture -not- made of bamboo, it seems, is the vinyl, bamboo-green sofa placed up against the wall. The floor is tile, colored like white sand, with several snow-white scratches gored into it. There's an umbrella stand right next to the stairway, a Zenith television across from the sofa, and a small CCTV screen above it, set into the wall. Several bamboo-slat paintings are hung on the walls...women playing musical instruments, tigers prowling in the forest. In the back of the living room is a small, rectangular dining table. The wall there is covered in family photos and certificates for things Lyra did in her younger days, although some of the certificates have been shot full of holes. To the right of the table, the wall is cut out, with a restaurant-like counter into the kitchenette. Convienient for passing plates of food between rooms. To the left of the door is the laundry/bathroom, and an exit to the fire escape. To the right is a small hallway, leading to the kitchenette, a full sized bathroom, and Meiran's bedroom. There are retractable stairs in the ceiling of the hallway, leading to a small attic room with a large window looking out behind the shop. Lyra is sitting on her knees on the floor of the living room, a bowl of water in front of her. Her eyes are closed, breathing slow- incense burns in the kitchen. She appears to be meditating, or...Reaching? Once upon an August dreary, as Lyra ponders, weak and weary... or not. In any case, there comes a rapping at her chamber door. Rap-rap-rap. Businesslike and such. There's a sharp intake of breath as the cub is jolted out of whatever she was doing; again, her efforts where disturbed. Lyra simply sighs, grateful she didn't spill the bowl this time. Just to be on the safe side, the cub picks the bowl up as she stands, places it on the dining table and heads into the laundry room, for the business of opening the door. "Hello?" she says loudly, standing before it but not touching it yet. Too bad there isn't a peephole or anything in the fire escape door. The voice that comes through the door is perfectly familiar, if muffled through the barrier. "Lyra? It's Salem." Something like apprehension, worry, confusion- all gives way to surprise as Lyra opens the door, slight at first, then upon visual confirmation, wide open for the Walker. "S-Salem-rhya? I...um...oh, the house is a mess," the cub blurts out, tucking a strand of hair behind her ear. Salem takes off his sunglasses as he steps inside. His gaze sweeps the apartment, briefly surveying the decor, his expression stern but otherwise unreadable. "Am I intruding?" he asks the cub at last, focussing his eye down on her. "No rhya...please, come inside." Lyra quickly heads into the living room, then kitchen to snuff out the incense. "I wasn't doing anything important. It's a real surprise to have you stop by, but it's a pleasure." On 'pleasure' Lyra's head pops into existence from the empty space in the wall that lets those in the living room look into the kitchen. She smiles brightly at the Philodox cliath. "May I get you something to drink or eat?" "A glass of water will be fine," Salem says, slipping the sunglasses inside his jacket and walking up toward the counter. "You live here with your... aunt, yes?" Lyra's smile loses some of it's brightness in the short moment she turns away from Salem and walks to the fridge, reaching inside for a bottle of Evian. "Yes, but she's been away for some time," she replies, rooting around until she's got the bottle in hand and stands up, closing the fridge. "I don't know where, or when she'll be back. But someday." The Gnawer cub smiles wistfully as she hands the bottle to the Walker from across the divider. "Are you looking for spiritual or medical guidance, rhya?" Salem's eyes narrow at the question, the blind one narrowing to a mere slit of dead white. "No," he says, accepting the bottled water and unscrewing the cap. "Actually, I came to speak to you about a remark you made at the caern last night." Nervousness floods the cub, hands clasping and unclasping slowly. Of course Salem didn't make random house calls... "Which remark in particular? I...said a lot." Lyra takes a deep breath, trying to steel herself. Salem stares steadily down at the younger Philodox, his elbows resting on the counter. "Does 'oh, bloody honor' ring a bell?" About 24 hours too late, Lyra's hands fly up to cover her mouth. She just blinks. "I..." The hands come down, slowly, as the cub tries to speak, the struggle for an explanation not long. "Yes...I said that. I'm sorry I did," she adds earnestly, almost desperately. "I shouldn't have been so terse. I lost my temper." Salem studies the girl's face for a long several seconds, then says, "...Which is precisely what a Philodox should not do." His voice is perfectly even, his body language all rigidly-controlled calm as he takes a sip of water. "I'm sure that Kaz has taught you the Litany. Has she told you the Creeds as well?" Lyra shakes her head slowly, meeting Salem's gaze longer than she might have in the past. But nothing in her eyes is challenging. "Unless under a different name, I don't believe so." "Hmnh." Salem's jaw clenches subtly at the meeting of gazes, whether challenge be meant or not. "Honor is _everything_ to a Philodox, Lyra, whether that Philodox is a Silver Fang, a Shadow Lord, or a Bone Gnawer. A half-moon without honor, or who disregards the importance of honor, is as bad as an Ahroun who flees battle." From the cant of Lyra's head and surprise in her eyes, this comes as real news to her. "But...honor is a way other people perceive a person. It can get in the way of truth by blinding someone who wants it more than the truth. I thought justice and peace meant everything to the Philodox." Salem's mouth compresses into a thin grimace. "You've been misinformed," the Glass Walker says, rather coldly. "Justice, yes. Peace? Who told you that? And honor is no more the way others perceive you than any other part of a Garou's standing. A Garou who is dishonorable is dishonorable no matter how well he hides it, or how honorable others think he is. Just as a Garou who is a fool remains a fool no matter how well he mimicks wisdom." "Anneka told me," Lyra says quietly, voice mildly reproving without her meaning it to be. "She said halfmoons are the peacekeepers and judges. And honor..." The girl trails off, thinking, finally shaking her head again, looking frustrated. "Maybe I'm confusing honor with pride..." "We're judges," Salem says, with finality. "And... yes. Pride and honor are two extremely different things." He takes a sip of water, then recites, "'I shall be respectful. I shall be loyal. I shall be just. I shall live by my word. I shall accept fair challenges.' That is the creed of honor." Lyra's fingers play about the zipper of her sweatshirt, more out of idleness that nervousness. "And I wasn't respectful last night," the cub supplies ruefully. She wriggles her nose, annoyed with herself. "But, honor, as it pertains to Bear...she seems perfect! It's such a -shame- to make dishonor so terrible. It was a long time ago that that happened, Andrea-rhya said. If Bear really was dishonorable, she would be a Wyrm spirit by now. How can honor be a good thing if people will turn others away based on solely on it?" Salem shakes his head. "There are many spirits who lack honor, yet are not of the Wyrm. Flea. Coyote. Fox. Even Uktena. Bear is simply one of these. If a healing spirit is required, Unicorn is just as strong in the healing arts, and Reforged and Robert have proven that there is no lack of strength in him." Lyra listens, the nods, acquiescing slightly. "But Unicorn wouldn't be grateful for the oppurtunity to be a Totem the way Bear would. Why couldn't we do something...something..." She reaches for the right word, and misses a bit. "Innovative? If the Caern is healed and well defended, will it weaken us to know others consider our Totem dishonorable? It's...not fair to blame the spirit for something that it itself did not do, shame it, and then refuse to give it a way to become honorable again. Besides, what if we -did- work twice as hard to gain honor back? Wouldn't Bear be all the more glorious then?" "Bear is not a beggar, Lyra," Salem says. "There are plenty of Garou packs who follow Bear, and there are even small caerns that do so as well. You persist in seeing Bear as a poor, helpless, unloved and rejected thing, but Bear is not a puppy thrown out of a moving car, nor is he a kitten thrown into the trash. Bear has power, but this does not change the fact that Bear lacks honor, and those who follow Bear lose honor for doing so." He takes a drink of water. "Also, you underestimate the potential power of our caern. To be a caern spirit is one of the greatest opportunities a spirit can get, and there's no reason that Unicorn wouldn't be just as happy to join with us as Bear." He grimaces faintly, as if tasting something bad. "Why else do you think that Wendigo took Little Bear's offer so readily?" "I don't see Bear like a poor little animal. I think she's something grand, and wise, and part of the earth. I just don't want to see honor be the main reason to disregard her. And I'm a Gnawer of Bone, rhya," she adds dryly. "When it comes to being judged too quickly, it's hard to beat my family. As for Wendigo, um." Lyra blinks, gazing at Salem as though the answer was tattooed on his forehead, then decides it was a rhetorical question. Abruptly, she changes subject. "Salem-rhya, why is it you don't see peace as a part of a Philodox's duty?" Salem sets the bottle of water down, his expression turning flinty, like granite. "Bone Gnawer or Shadow Lord, Silver Fang or Glass Walker, it _makes_ _no_ _difference_. A Philodox's way is Honor." He really does manage to pronounce the capital letter. "Otherwise, he... or _she_... is no Philodox." Lyra smiles. "Cheers for gender equality," she says softly. "I can accept that Creed, I think. It doesn't say 'pursuit of', after all. That would make it pride, right?" Her head stops its canting, and hazel eyes turn rather murky as they edge their way along into another color. The cub notices the lack of response to her other question and resolves to bring it up again in a few more moments. "Pride and honor can be easy to confuse, yes," the Glass Walker agrees. "I'm still confused as to why you don't see peace as a part of a Philodox's duty," Lyra adds, trying to make the sentence sound like an innocent statement. Salem answers, "Justice is our duty. Keeping the Laws is our duty. Discerning the truth is our duty, as is the punishment of those who transgress." He hasn't smiled once since during the entire conversation, and he certainly isn't smiling now. "Occasionally, we are called upon to act as mediators when two Garou are in disagreement, but this is so that the matter can be settled fairly, or if there is a challenge involved, that the terms of the challenge are observed. Peace may be a byproduct of our duties, but seeking or enforcing peace for the sake of peace is not." Lyra thinks about that...and nosewriggles, backing up so that she can lean against the other kitchen counter, and maybe for caution. "With no disrespect, rhya," she says carefully, "That's a textbook Webster definition. Anneka said a halfmoon has to think with their head and their heart. What do -you- think about it, what do -you- feel?" Salem's eyes narrow dangerously, but Luna's in hiding tonight, and his anger is well-leashed. "I've just told you." His voice is cold. Lyra notices the eyes, but hears nothing, or ignores, the chill in the voice. She watches Salem with a mixture of frustration, worry, and confusion...or maybe she's just debating the distance between them. Another abrupt change in topic. "Are you happy?" Salem's expression changes. It passes almost too quickly to read, but for the briefest moment, there's uncertainty. Wariness. The question slipped through like a particularly well-aimed arrow and hit home. Then he straightens up, and the Gnawer can all but _see_ the walls slamming down over his eyes. If his voice was cold before, now it's wintery enough to give Wendigo himself the shivers. "That's none of your business." Lyra's hands, fingers drumming on the countertop idly, clench around the counter-edge tightly as she winces, teeth nipping at her lower lip. "But you are a guest in my home, rhya," she replies, voice gentle and without tremor. Any worries that Salem will come leaping at her from across the divider can been seen in how tightly she holds the counter behind her. "You have been served the refreshments you asked for; I have not been disrespectful, I think; but still you have not smiled, or relaxed." She pauses, then continues more softly, "Business is for strangers. Such questions are asked by friends." Salem doesn't leap across the divider. Any violence inherent in his manner is exactly that -- inherent, part of him, and it remains under his firm control. "I came to offer instruction to a cub who I feel has a great deal of potential despite her tribe." There's nothing in his tone of voice to mitigate the insult buried there. "My personal life is quite beside the point, and off-topic besides." As Salem hasn't yelled nor attacked her, her two greatest fears, she eases her grip on the counter-edge. Blood returns into once-white knuckles, and she holds up on finger, smiling a bit. "Wrong on both, rhya. You said that seeking peace for the sake of peace is not the way of the Philodox," the cub repeats, tone growing a bit more lively. She even moves about the kitchen as she speaks, with unhurried but unfettered movements, preparing tea. "Then you said that was also how you felt. I feel differently. Yin and yang, dark and light, half the moon- it's balance. Anneka said the job of a Philodox is to restore balance to where it was been lost. When something is balanced, its chi is at peace, so a halfmoon must try to bring peace." She sets a tan teapot on the counter, a shiny thing with white swans or herons painted on, and sets tea leaves inside. "Many weeks ago, I learned of the bad blood between Jarred-rhya and the Gnawers. Jarred-rhya disliked Aiyana and I because of it, and Renee and Mama Kaz disliked him. Well, Renee seemed to dislike all Shadow Lords, but." That fact is waved away with a flick of her hand, like the cub could will it into insignificance. "Distrust, anger...very bad energy, Auntie Mei would say. Neither was looking for resolution, but their own prejudices were influencing cubs. So I tried to bring peace to the situation and reconcile Mama Kaz and Jarred-rhya. Some tension between the two has been relieved, and now Jarred-rhya is more accepting of Aiyana and I. There is more balance than before. So it -is- a Philodox's duty to bring peace where they can, do you see?" Salem's expression remains stony as Lyra speaks. He listens, hands resting on the counter, his face revealing nothing but that hardness, that coldness. The unyieldingness of a mountain. "Are you done?" Let me tell you a story about a mountain.... "Nope," Lyra chirps. The cub pauses a moment as she pulls her hair back from her face, then lets it fall free again. Somehow she produces hot water and pours it into the teapot, colorless liquid turning yellow, then green, smalls wisps of steam rising. "I asked if you were happy. Mr. Salem, if you are unhappy, there is an imbalance, bad energy. As a Philodox who seeks peace, duty or not, I want you to be happy." Lyra smiles brightly, one corner of her mouth quirked a little higher than the other. Somewhere along the line she'd crossed over to the divider again, teacup and plate in hand, held out to Salem. "Tea?" Irritation flashes across the Glass Walker's eyes. He regards the tea-offering little Gnawer for a moment, rigid, and then accepts the tea with the air of someone too polite to do otherwise. "I don't need a social worker," he says, not drinking it, and the anger that's not on his face is audible in his voice, like a thin snarl of warning and a flash of fang. "Nor a therapist. And not from a child." Indignance, and more than a little disappointment, settles in Lyra's eyes. Not yet beaten, the Gnawer tries again. "Not even from a friend?" she asks softly, hopefully. The tremor she'd been careful to keep out of her voice somehow gets there anyway. Salem seethes, absolutely rigid, but his first response -- one that would clearly have been both swift and vicious, cruelly cutting -- is bitten back unsaid. Though his real reply is more calm and without intentional hurt, he still sets the tea down as though not quite trusting himself not to hurl it across the apartment. "You're a _cub_, Lyra." The said cub can't help but take a tiny step back from the ledge, although she makes it look intentional as she wipes her hand on the towel that is run through a ring on the edge of the sink. Dark green eyes watch her hands dry themselves from imaginary stain. "I know," Lyra says quietly, not daring to look up. Salem stares at the young Philodox for several long moments, silently, his breathing slow and controlled. Lyra just keeps drying her hands over and over. Whatever resolve or spirit she had seems to be leaking away. "You didn't answer my question, rhya," she says, voice low enough to be a whisper, but seemingly loud in the all-too-quiet apartment. Salem lets the silence stretch out a moment more, then exhales a near-soundless sigh. "You want to know if I am happy?" A mute nod, as Lyra lets go of the towel and looks up, almost wary. Salem seems to consider his answer, looking ruefully down at the cub as he does so. "More or less." The wariness fades to a small smile. Then a wider one, and a giggle. Lyra quickly covers her mouth with her hands again, but the smile's in her eyes, and she's not really trying that hard to hide her laughter. Another person would start smiling back, would start laughing along with her. Not Salem. He just continues to look rueful, and after a few seconds he shakes his head wryly and takes up the tea. Lyra reigns in her good mood and settles for a smile that somehow remind's one of a blue jay looking pleased with itself. "A very balanced answer," she points out, still grinning. "But I'm very glad to hear that. It means the charm is working." Salem arches a brow quizzically for a moment, but only for a moment. "You mean the nightingale. Yes, I remember." If Lyra looks any more happy, she might pop like an overfilled balloon. "I met your newest acquirement, Quentin," she chatters absently, pouring herself some tea. "He's really a bright pip. Did he get a name yet?" "No," Salem says, and it's good that Lyra is so brimming over with glee; she has enough for both of them. The ex-Ronin still looks pretty solemn. He turns a sharp eye down on her. "Nor are you to run around giving him one. If he wants a deed-name, he'll choose one, or one of us will choose one for him." Lyra mock-glares up at Salem. "Deed names aren't cub names," she chirps, before taking a sip of her tea. And burning her tongue. "Atch!...meh, em, anyway, I couldn't give him a name if he didn't want it. I thought maybe Heart of Gold? Because of his wolf eyes? And his kindness." Salem takes a sip of tea. "Deed-name, cub-name, wolf-name, there's no difference. Quentin will take one if he chooses to. Or he won't." He doesn't seem to think the subject a particularly important one, and the Gnawer cub might remember that Salem doesn't seem to have one himself. Or else has never introduced himself with one. Lyra remembers, suddenly, and with surprise. "Say, Salem-rhya...why don't you have a name?" Full of questions, she is. "I do," says the Glass Walker, deadpan. "It's 'Salem.'" Lyra quirks one corner of her mouth, determined not to let him get off that easily. "Okay, if that's your wolf name. So your real name would be?" "_Jack_ Salem." His eye glints, and he takes another sip of tea. Still without the slightest hint of anything resembling a smile. Lyra giggles despite trying to look serious. "Come off it, you -know- what I mean! Very well, Mr. I Live By Webster. What's the name on your birth certificate? Or did you just pop into existence one day, out of the Umbra and such." It's clear she doesn't hold much weight in the last scenario. The corners of the Walker's mouth twitch downwards; the question makes him more solemn, not less. "Officially and legally, my name is Jack Salem. If you wish, I'll show you my driver's licence." Lyra cants her head, blinking, caught off guard by the answer in words and in body language. Then she's all smiles again. "I get it! You don't like your middle name, do you?" Salem drains the last of the tea and sets the cup down. "Lyra, do you know what a Ronin is, in the Garou sense of the term?" Lyra's not done with her tea- Salem's finishing first reminds her to try it again. It's cooler now. After a quick sip, "No, but I've never heard the word before." Pause. "Is -that- your middle name?" Salem shakes his head, his mouth twisting into a wry little grimace. "No. A Ronin is a Garou with no tribe, an outcast. A Ronin has no place, no standing, no rights, and above all, no name." "Oh," is all the cub says. Lyra takes another sip, waiting to see if Salem has more to say about Ronins. Salem explains patiently, though the grimness of his tone adds weight to his words, making them heavy, like boulders. "Before I was a Glass Walker, Lyra, I was Ronin. Before I was Ronin, I was a Shadow Lord." Silence is loud as the meaning of that sentence bores into Lyra. "Ohh," she repeats, eyes widening slightly. "I didn't know you could change tribes. That...must have been something terrible. Being alone, like that?" The sympathy and awe the cub has for the cliath is obvious; the extra respect he's earned suddenly may not be as obvious, but it's there. "I told Kent-" She means Quentin "-that the only thing worse than losing our old lives would be having to face the new ones alone." Salem doesn't seem all that eager to go into more detail about his past, except to say, "It isn't pleasant, no. In any case, when I lost my birth tribe, I lost my birth name as well. In Garou terms, that person was dead. So I took a new name." He pauses a beat, then adds, "It _is_ my legal name, now. Many people change their names, after all." Lyra nods, sipping her tea again, which is starting to get too cool. "Auntie Mei used to say that names were for other people to give you. I used to want people to call me Suu. But she didn't like that." The cub shrugs lightly. "Names are a strange thing. No matter what the sound, it doesn't change who the person is, inside." She smiles a bit, embarrassed. "Well, that's what I think, anyway." Salem folds his arms across his chest. "Hmh. Yes and no. Names _can_ have power. We are Garou, after all, not pure wolves, and we gain the power of names and labels from our human ancestry." Lyra grimaces as she downs her cooled tea. "Eh. I still can't help but feel like a per...human. Just one that can turn into a wolf." She flicks her wrist, twirling the cup in the air and staring down at the tea dregs in the bottom. "Renee thinks they're Weaverish and that's it, but. There has to be something really special about humans, since all shifters have a human side." Salem grimaces. "Renee is a jackal," he says sourly. "No offense meant to the Silent Striders." Lyra seems taken aback by the vehemence in choice of words, but manages a quirked smile. "I'm sure Geoffrey doesn't mind. But, um, Renee's...certainly something. She Rited, did you know?" Salem nods, his expression still dark. "I'm well aware of the fact. You can also safely disregard her backward ideas of what humanity is or isn't." Lyra arches her brows, bites her lip, and quickly looks at some other spot on the counter, a classic "Mm, okay..." expression. "Salem-rhya, did Jacob tell you about the cub pack yet?" Salem arches a brow, but accepts the cub's change of subject without comment. "No, but Adrian did." The dark haired girl cants her head, trying to think. "He...did? Was I there?" Salem shakes his head. "This was before we took back the caern. He asked me for advice about being an alpha." "Oh, okay." Lyra takes her empty cup and Salem's and puts both in the sink, running water over them. "What do you think of the idea?" Salem tilts his head, watching the girl critically. "I've heard worse ideas," he says, his tone neutral. At least he's not disapproving. "At the very least, it's good practice." Lyra beams sunnily at the Walker; it's as if God himself had stepped down to say 'Good tea.' "I'm glad you think so!" She starts drying off the cups. "Jarred-rhya didn't like it, too much. I don't think he'll let Raven join, but. Tomorrow is our first get together, as a pack." Clink, clink, the cups chime as they are set down. "Can Kent come?" Salem's mouth twists into a little grimace of distaste at mention of Jarred, but he says only, "Kent?" "Kent, Quen-tin," Lyra repeats, wriggling her nose at saying the proper name. "I stumble over saying Quen-tin sometimes." "Ah." Salem rubs at his bearded chin for a moment, thoughtfully. "Hmnh. Has he expressed an interest?" Lyra smiles as she nods. "He said he'd ask you, but that was this morning. I think I got to you first. He'd be our second Galliard. Jacob's our only Theurge. We're trying to get all auspices and tribes." Salem says, "I don't see any harm in it. He may join... for now." Lyra seems to be walking on air as she puts the cups away, then heads into the living room. "Thank you very much, rhya," she says earnestly. "We're going to clean up the Caern tomorrow, all together. Oh." The cub's just remembered something. There's a strange pause as she eyes Salem apprehensively. Salem's eyes narrow slightly. "What?" Lyra fidgets, then takes a deep breath, lets it out. "I heard you had a talking to with Aiyana. About her and Jeremy." Salem unfolds his arms, then rests his hands, closed loosely into fists, on the counter. "And?" "And...um..." Lyra looks up at Salem almost apologetically. "I agree they shouldn't be having...close relations. But the two of them seemed so happy together, rhya. I...well, anyway. Jeremy seems to think you were especially upset because Aiyana is a Bone Gnawer." Salem leans against the counter, very slightly. "They can be as happy as they want to be," he says coolly. "As long as they're _platonically_ happy." Lyra takes a seat on the couch, in the middle, and looks up at Salem with a rather exasperated expression. "Platonic, at least to us pips, means -just- friends, so they can't be girlfriend and boyfriend?" Salem pushes off the counter and faces the couch with folded arms. "Exactly." Lyra rubs the back of her neck. "Even if they promised not to have...close relations?" Salem's eyes are narrowed. "Right." His gaze holds steady on the cub, almost expectantly. Lyra's returning gaze is the look of someone who has only one crossword left, but can't get the word. "Are you just being as mean as most parents might be, or is it because she's a Gnawer, and not Miss Dizzy?" "'Miss Dizzy' is as much a cub as you are, Lyra, and will be dealt with in due time. And not because of Jeremy." Salem's tone is not encouraging, and just a little bit dire. "And, to be brutally frank, yes. I told Aiyana to keep her relationship with Jeremy a platonic one because she is a Bone Gnawer." "Oh, well, she's a cub?" Lyra muses, now better informed. Then she pauses, and watches Salem a little bit longer. Finally, her hand comes away from her neck and joins its pair in her lap. "Why?" Salem's face tightens, and he answers her with the brutal honesty of one who has bad news that probably won't be received well, but must needs be said. His words are poisonous, but his vehemence is well-controlled. "Because, apart from a few notable exceptions, yourself and Kaz included, the Bone Gnawer tribe is a tribe of cowards, slackards, criminals, and hyenas. Exceptions aside, the best are harmless mutts and the worst have the souls of jackals. They live in shit and revel in shit, and the very best praise I can think for them is faint praise -- they're better than the Shadow Lords." Eyes widen, breath is caught. Lyra couldn't have looked more hurt and shocked than if Salem had smacked her in the face. "I..." A slight pause, as she swallows, looking away from the Walker. "I'm sure Geoffrey won't mind." Her hands curl on her knees, clinging to the fabric of her jeans tightly. She falls into silence, hands clenching tighter. Salem waits patiently for the young Philodox to regain her composure; the sternness of his expression doesn't budge an iota. If this discussion had taken place anywhere else, Lyra would have run away by now. Unfortunately, this was her house. One arm comes up and brushes across her face, tears soaking into her sleeve before they fell. "That's...my family you're talking about." It's a quiet statement, although the cub's voice shakes. "Mama Kaz and Anneka and Aiyana and Yi are...are -wonderful- human...Garou...I..." Salem's expression, if anything, hardens further. If he feels any remorse for causing her tears, he doesn't show it. "I said that there were exceptions. I think rather highly of Kaz myself. But three Bone Gnawers, or even six, don't change the character of the rest of the tribe." Lyra refuses to look back up at Salem just yet, just presses her wrist to her eyes. Her breathing gets ragged, quick. "I...I don't know who I'm crying for," the girl admits suddenly, back straightening as she looks up at Salem with a tearful smile. "Myself, or my family, or you. Isn't...isn't that silly?" Salem gets that narrow-eyed, faintly suspicious look that suits his saturnine face all too well. "Me?" Lyra nods, looking away again. She takes a shuddery breath, trying to calm herself, but Salem's words have burrowed far too deep through flimsy shields. "Hate is learned, and a hate...like that...I'm sorry that something happened to you...to make you unable to see...the good in people." Every few words is punctuated with a pause as the cub tries to stop her tears. Salem gives his head a slight, sharp shake, jaw muscles tensed. "It isn't hate. It's experience. You're a cub, Lyra, and one of theirs. You haven't seen the worst. I have... from both sides, from above and below. If you don't believe me, ask Kaz about the Man-Eaters, and the Hillfolk cult in Appalachia. In any case, until and unless I am suitably impressed with Aiyana's character and satisfied with her motives, she is forbidden to be anything more than a _friend_ to my tribe's kinfolk. As a matter of fact, since Kaz _is_ one of her teachers, I am giving Aiyana every benefit of doubt. I haven't even spoken to her, nor put her to Gaia's Truth, since I laid my ultimatum. I am _trusting_ her not to go behind my back and defy me." His tone doesn't lighten at the latter part of this speech; if anything, it hardens more, and there's a strong hint of dire consequences should the Walker find out that Aiyana _has_ defied him. The girl shakes her head and laughs bitterly, a strange sound that seems too foreign for her. "That's what I told Jeremy," she murmurs, a bitter smile on her face to match her laugh. "I didn't expect being right would be so terrible...." Lyra shakes her head again, tears trickling unheeded down her cheeks from bright green eyes. "Rhya, if Aiyana disobeys...it's her fault. But..." The cub inhales sharply. "Don't you hurt her. Just...just don't." The last two words are a whispered plea, not an order. Salem's eyes narrow. "Whether or not I hurt her depends entirely on her behavior when I confront her in regards to her defiance. 'Accept an honorable surrender.'" Lyra's smile is still there, empty as her eyes narrow as well. "There are two kinds of hurt, but what would you know of the other? Bloody textbook-" The cub flings herself of the couch and staggers out of the living room, leaning against one wall in the hallway where she's out of sight, but not earshot. Stifled sobs are the only signs she's still nearby. "Please...please go, rhya. It's late, and...please." Salem's upper lip peels away from his teeth at Lyra's accusation that he's ignorant of hurt, but she's got her back turned by that time, and then she's out of view altogether. Regaining the semblence of unfeeling stone, he reaches into his jacket, pulls out the sunglasses, and slips them on. "Very well." Even now, he sounds unrepentant. Just before heading out the door, he farewells with a cool, "Be seeing you." And then he's gone.