It is currently 16:05 Pacific Time on Fri Oct 4 2002. Currently in Saint Claire, it is a cloudy day. The temperature is 60 degrees Fahrenheit (15 degrees Celsius). The wind is currently coming in from the southwest at 6 mph. The barometric pressure reading is 30.16 and falling, and the relative humidity is 80 percent. The dewpoint is 54 degrees Fahrenheit (12 degrees Celsius.) Currently the moon is in the waning No Moon phase (13% full). Location: Falcon's Rest There's been some thought put into the preperation for this evening. Drinks and various munchies have been put out. Kristine'll put the food out, but she's not going to wait on everyone for the entire evening. She sits in one of the lounge chairs, and just..well..waits. The sound of Apoc's big growling Honda roadbike can be heard outside, growing louder as the Metis pulls in. The engine cuts off, and a few moments later in comes the Galliard herself, headphones dangling around her neck, the wire trailing into a pocket of her jeans. "Hidilly fuckin' ho, good neighbors!" Apocalypse says, full of manic cheer. "What's the fuckin' good word?" Tobin walks into the living room from one of the other wings, hair wet from a shower and his clothes newly washed and ironed. He actually looks presentable compared to how he's been lately, what with running around the bawn. It's Apoc's grande entrance that brings Kristine out of her contemplative waiting state and she just blinks. She'd seen the metis in passing before, but, uh, was never around to truly ..uh, see her. "Well, someone's perky today," She comments with a grin, before adjusting her position in the chair, turning to look at Tobin, giving a nod, then back to the Metis, "Don't think we've met 'formally'. Kristine Vaughn-St. David, Stands-Proud, Theurge, Cliath, Fang. All that good stuff." She then turns and looks behind her, towards the door, "Uh, see anyone come in behind you?" Apocalypse glances back. "Nope," she says energetically, hip-bumping the door closed. Her eyes gleam at sight of the food Kris has put out, and she makes a beeline for it, offering her introduction in passing. "Defies-the-Apocalypse, Apoc fer short. Galliard, Cliath, freako Metis bangbaby... Originally from th' fuckin' Green in Noo Yawk." She's already grabbed a drink and is loading a napkin up with snack food. Tobin shakes his head at Kristine as he enters the room and finds a seat. "I haven't been able to contact anybody else," he says somewhat glumly, though a hint of a smile tugs at the corner of his mouth as he watches Apoc's enthusiasm. Kristine doesn't even have a chance to look..disappointed...for she's too busy watching the new Fang just rip into her little set up. Well, at least she isn't -too- messy. ANd New York? Well, that explains it. "Uh, the 'Green'? That mean Upstate?" Apocalypse grins, one cheek bulging. She chews, swallows. "Nah, fuckin' city. Caern's in Central Park. Mostly Gnawers... alpha's a real wacko old bitch Theurge named Mother Larissa. Fuckin' oldest Garou you ever fuckin' saw, I fuckin' swear. Hey, are those cashews? I fuckin' _love_ cashews." Tobin's ghostly grin grows a little more substantial as he sits and watches the two other Fangs get acquainted. Kristine sits there for a moment, stunned, and then slowly, a wide grin begins to spread on her face, and her eyes sort of light up in an 'All Right!' look. Definately an expression of acceptance, and liking, for the metis. "Ah, maybe I'll actually get around to meeting her one of these years." She chuckles a little bit, then nods, "Yeah, those're cashews. My favorite, too." And she's got HER bowl of nuts near her. Yay! "If you want something to drink with more backbone, liquor cabinent's that way." "Nah, I got it covered... 'less one a' youse scammed my Jolt from the fridge." Apocalypse sets her napkin of snacks down and vanishes briefly into the kitchen to fetch said hyper-cola. Tobin watches the Galliard go and comments to Kristine, "Who needs Rage when someone like /her/ has caffiene, eh?" "She needs Jolt like I need another voice in my head..." Kristine comments quietly to Tobin, before giggling a bit. "I know. It's refreshing, though, I think. Definately like her already." She waits for Apoc to return, her gaze occassionally going to the door, as if willing people to show up. "I heard that!" comes Apoc's voice, all sing-songy and cheerful, from the kitchen. She returns with a can of Jolt cola and a massive, manic grin. Tobin follows Kristine's glance to the door and his grin fades back into pensiveness. "I suppose we're it, at least for the moment. If anyone else shows up late, I suppose they'll just have to catch up?" He pauses and looks between the two other Fangs. "Shall we get down to business?" Kristine sighs a bit, though the grin does stay thanks to Apoc's return. She nods to Tobin, "Yeah." She looks to Apoc, "Just so we're on the same page, you've already dealt with your Chiminage, right?" Apocalypse piles as much snacks onto the napkin as possible, then takes the whole thing over to a convenient chair, somehow managing to get there and flop without spilling a single snack or a drop of cola. "Chimmy? I fuckin' guess so," she says. "I mean, I fuckin' kicked ass for y'guys when th' fuckin' Dancers were fuckin' ya, an' I fuckin' hauled trash ta fuckin' hell an' back, too. That cool?" She takes a long swig of cola. Tobin nods in confirmation. "She was with us in battle the night we did the Rite of the Silver Forge. And she was with us in the Umbra the night we took the caern back, I saw her there with Andrea's group. And I've seen her cleaning the caern, too, alongside everyone else." A sharp bark emanates from one end of the house. Moments later, a brilliantly clean Chance trots into the room unassumingly. Quicker than anyone can express outrage, the wolfen fang's muzzle disappears into a bowl of chips, then emerges, munching happily, tongue reaching to taste every last grain of salty goodness. Apocalypse grins at the Ragabash, greeting him with lifted soda-can and a cheerful, "Yo yo _yo_, lookee lookee, it'sa WOLFY. And fuzzy makes four." Kristine looks from Apoc to Tobin, then shrugs, "Considering I have no clue if Brittany gave you anything else, yup, that's cool." She then blinks as she watches Val saunter in, and frowns, "Hey, ain't you got manners, boy.." She says, deliberately adding a 'hick' drawl to her voice. She then looks back tot he door, and offers to Tobin, "Fifty bucks says that Britt's not going to show." She then takes a breath and grins, before offering to Val, "You should shift up, because, if you stay like that, that means I have permission to smack your muzzle with a rolled up newspaper for being rude." She's obviously playing. Chance's tail wags good-naturedly as he takes a single swipe at the chip dip with a pink tongue. He then shifts smoothly to homid, grinning sheepishly. "Oh, all right. I think you'd do it too, Kris. You get off on hitting people." He winks. Apocalypse stretches out denim-covered legs and toes off her orange sneakers. The grin never leaves her face; it just waxes and wanes with the ebb and flow of conversation. The mule's pale blue-lilac eyes dance. A series of knocks contact the door. They are sturdy enough sounds, but one follows the other with slight uncertainty. "I'll get that." She walks by, and moves to deliver a kick to Val's shin, for both his comment and for ruining the dip. Kristine then answers the door, "Ayup?" Valoran feigns mortal agony as he falls to the floor, clutching his ruined shin. "His crying is truly piteous. It's a good performance. Very good. Maybe he's done this before?" Tobin actually edges away from the chip dip, glancing sourly at Valoran. "Well, you've ensured that the dip is all yours now, certainly. Very clever of you." He doesn't seem to be especially upset about it despite his tone and look, though. He turns around at the knocks on the door and looks to see who's there. Apocalypse sniggers at Valoran's display, giving the extroverted Ragabash all the attention and approval he could ever need. "God, I fuckin' love this town," she says to nobody in particular. Her napkin's already empty, and she's working on the can of Jolt steadily. At the door, Wilbur is not facing in. His head is turned up to one side, his eyes turned over his shoulder. They trace a wandering line in the breezy night air, far-off, as if following something or another. His groomed beard lends a look of wisdom to this otherwise confused expression. When his eyes find Kristine, he slowly turns his head and shows her a pleasant but befuddled smile. "Good evening," he greets. "Is Miss Jefferson available?" Kristine hrms a bit, tilting her head, her nose twitching to the side. "Uh, no, actually, despite the fact you knocked, I was hoping you were her." She pushes the door open a little more, and steps to lean against the wall, there, so anyone that -can- recognize the man there, will. Valoran's tears vanish as he stands, hobbling what appears to be painfully toward the elder Silver Fang. "Mr. Wright! I haven't seen you in forever!" He looks genuinely pleased to see the man, despite the fact that he's clearly been maimed by some vicious attack. Tobin immediately brightens upon seeing who's at the door and he calls out cheerily. "Wilbur! Come in!" Apocalypse waves enthusiastically at Wilbur from her chair. "Party party, join the fuckin' fun!" The huge Ahroun is quiet for seven seconds, his look one of concentration. "I am not Miss Jefferson," he confirms to Kristine, and appears to be confident in that conclusion. "I.... " His head cocks as he looks beyond the woman. He shows a brief grin, and something seems to click in his eyes. Ah, yes, his face seems to say. Now this is making sense. He turns Kristine a look, bowing his head slightly. "May I?" It is about this point that he hears what sort of fun in which he has been invited to participate. Slight confusion again-- wait. Kristine's grin seems to match the atmosphere inside, "Sure, why the hell not." ESpecially since everyone has recognized him. She turns, and in passing, moves to deliver another kick to the 'uninjured' shin of Valoran. "Don't eat the dip though, it's got Val-doggy-germs." She then moves to sit down. Boom! Down he goes again, wailing like he's been stuck with a silver klaive. "Medic!" Apoc chirps brightly. "Man down! Man down!" Tobin stands up and makes introductions. "Will, I don't think you've met her yet, but this is Kristine, Theurge Cliath of our tribe," he says, gesturing towards Kristine. He then reverses the gesture to indicate Wilbur while speaking to Kristine. "This is Wilbur Right, the Ahroun who I mentioned to you before who helped train me." Wilbur shuts the door behind him, thumbing it locked. The room is surveyed briefly-- the shrieking Ragabash is shown a look of stern dismay. His eyes flicker to Tobin, and he studies the boy a moment before his attention is turned to Kristine-- along with the offer of a hand. "Ma'am." Kristine's expression lifts again, "Oh! Wonderful!." She stands up, and takes the hand offered, giving it a shake. "I am quite pleased to meet you, Mr. Wright." Hoooboy, this must look positively odd. The Silver Fangs' very own Mutt and Jeff! Valoran pulls himself along the floor this time, the yells subsiding into whimpers as he hoists himself onto the couch with Apoc reaching out to her in powerless dismay. His eyes, however, sparkle with amusement and he winks at the mule. Apocalypse leans over and grasps Valoran's hand in her own firm grip, grinning like a loon all the while. "Here, poor 'coz, lemme fuckin' help you up. Poor baby. Did th' mean ol' Kris fuckin' hurt you baaaaaaad?" "How do you do?" says Wilbur to Kristine, then, his shake firm and his eye contact level-- though he is the first to look away. This is not necessarily a sign of submission: he is looking at Valoran. His eyebrows have inched toward his hair. "I say.. Mr. Gray." Kristine sighs and puts her hands on her hips, "Val, get up or I'll -really- hurt you." She then turns to Wilbur, "Just have a seat, help yourself, but avoid the dip." She gesutres to the coffeetable. "We're having an informal meeting of sorts, to discuss all things tribal." Tobin rolls his eyes at Valoran and retakes his seat, surveying the antics of his tribe and slowly shaking his head in a vague sort of wonderous disbelief. Valoran looks up at the Ahroun, grinning widely. "Yes, Sir?" Apocalypse settles back into a boneless, careless slouch, legs drawn up and bare toes curled around the edge of the chair. She nurses her soda, watching with a crooked grin. Wilbur's mouth opens as if he were about to ask something, but that question fades as he turns his face just slightly to one side. There is sternness, however, in his eyes-- they linger on the Ragabash a moment, and then the last semblences of his comment have evaporated. "An informal meeting," he repeats, then. "I see.. ah. What issues are we discussing at present?" "We hadn't actually gotten to the issues quite yet, actually," Tobin says with a token glare at Valoran. Valoran adopts a fake british accent. "At present, we're squabbling over the dePLORable lack of decorum that plagues our present day tribe. We could certainly do with a bit of serious contemplation, wouldn't you say, old man?" "Hum," replies Wilbur with a polite distress that can only be shared by a proper Victorian gentleman who, having decided for a much-needed holiday away from his dreary study, has come for a bit of the tomfoolery and shenanigans-- mayhaps a bit of the bebop!-- and has found himself in the centre of Rick's Party Jungle Surf Bar, tophat-deep in ecstacy-pumped preteens seizing to the epilepsy-inspiring mixture of bad Japanese techno and strobelit bubbles, their twitching telegraphed by the twirl and thrust of glowsticks whilst they acquaint their anatomy with perfect strangers in a four foot thick pool of foam in which, as the DJ likes to announce, ANYTHING CAN HAP-HAP-HAPPEN. If Wilbur had a monocle, it'dve popped out by now. Apocalypse, the poster girl for lack of decorum, finishes off the last of her Jolt and chucks the can, with fair accuracy, at Valoran's head. "Well, I'll leave that up to you all, for now. Since I'm nice that way..." Kristine opens her hands up to the gathered, "What is first and foremost on -your- mind, and we can hash it out." She then looks to Val, "I'm going to pop you with something--" She then watches the can sail and nods to Apoc, "Thank you." Apocalypse beams at Kris and gives the meeting's leader a rather sloppy version of the Rimmer salute from _Red Dwarf_. "I, ah.. " Wilbur's eyes follow the can's flight path. He looks distracted. "Would like to ask, first, where is Miss Adams. Has she taken some sort of holiday? I do not believe I have been able to find her." Kristine's brow raises as she turns to look at Wilbur, "Uh, who?" Tobin looks confused as well, looking around at the other Fangs for some clue as to who Wilbur is referring to. Valoran grins and laughs. "Duh, guys. He's talking about Brit." Kristine blinks owlishly at Val, then to Wilbur, then to Tobin, "We're going backwards. Now he's going to call her Miss Washington." Wilbur's look grows momentarily odd when that name is mentioned-- but he blinks, and nods slowly, as he paces, his footsteps swallowed by the lush persian rug. "Pardon. I do mean the Philodox, Sterling-the-Pure." Kristine gives a snort, her tone carrying an edge of bitterness, "Somewhere not here. I Haven't seen her in ages." She crosses her arms slightly, apparently a woman of bigger 'tude and mouth than her body. "She fuckin' off wit' one'a those packs off fuckin' Gaia knows where, mebbe?" asks Apocalypse, ignorant of the fact that Brittany belongs to neither Reforged nor Ouroboros. Tobin's expression sours and he nods in agreement with Kristine. "She's off somewhere, and who knows where. And no, she didn't go with Andrea or Nightflash. She's been gone since we took the caern back." Valoran snorts. "Yeah... check Elizabeth Arden's in New York. She's probably treating herself to a mud bath and a cucumber facial...." Wilbur blinks so slowly that it would seem in mind is in the deepest of thoughts. His hand trails across the back of the sofa as he passes it, and then he has folded his arms behind his back. The Caern? Andrea? Nightflash? Brittany doing what with cucumbers? But those are no questions for a gentleman to ask. Instead a new one arises, borne of concern and cavalier notions: "Do you suppose, then, that we may need to find her?" His confused look begins to clear. "Do you think she may be in danger?" Kristine sighs a bit and shakes her head, "I wouldn't worry too much about it, Mr. Wright. She does this. She disappears for months at a time, then comes back. In the three or so years that I've been with this Sept..I've seen her..for roughly a year's amount of time." Tobin says quietly, "Brittany has been more than lax in her duties as Elder. Andrea was going to do something about it just before the caern fell. It's been more than obvious for a long time that she's no longer fit to lead us, which leaves us with the obvious question." He lets the thought trail off, glancing around at each Fang present. Apocalypse sticks a hand up. "I nominate Valoran!" Valoran leaps up, standing on the couch, with a foot on the back of it. "I accept. I will faithfully execute the duties you have bestowed upon me in all humility. I swear it." He points to Wilbur. "You there. Coffee, cream, no sugar." He points to Kris. "And you... put the kettle on. I should like some tea with crumpets after my coffee." "Where is it that Sterling goes?" asks Will, cutting in-- it is not polite, but his rousing consciousness has seized on the topic of Miss Jefferson. "Has no one investigated? Is it the Other Side she goes to? Do not forget what happened to our brothers and sisters of Golden Sky who shared that habit." Kristine turns to look at Tobin for a moment, the way her eyebrows come down, it's eviden tthat that's a topic that's been weighing heavily on her mind, but she turns to look at Apoc as she nominates Val for the eldership, and then Val makes a mess of it. "Uh, that's a no in my book." She picks up a cookie and flings it at Val, her aim also rather good, and she always goes for the head. She then looks to Wilbur, "She doesn't tell anyone. And I don't pry. I respect people's privacy until they give me a reason to do otherwise. Last time she did this, she just went back home to Virginia. You can call and see if she's there, or if they have any clue to where she's gone." Apocalypse just gives that big toothy grin of hers, unabashed and unrepentant. She uncoils and heads briefly into the kitchen, returning shortly with the other five-sixths of the sixpack of Jolt. Tobin glowers at Valoran then ignores him and explains to Wilbur. "Brittany is also a lawyer. It may be that she's just been off doing...lawyer things. More likely she went back home." The Ahroun's eyes slip half-lid, then, as he wanders the parlor. Lawyers and family get-togethers are far more anticlimactic than he had hoped; he is precisely the type of man who lives to rescue a Princess-- perhaps he has before. "It is difficult for me," he rumbles. "That we should not be led by Her Highness, Sterling-the-Pure, Princess of Virginia. So it is in her absence that I nominate Calls-the-Spirits-to-Battle to assume eldership of the Silver Fangs here gathered." Valoran chokes. "I'm sorry.. you didn't say.... Are you serious?" Kristine's eyes move to rest on Tobin, then to Val. Her expression's gone remarkably...unexpressionate. "Val, be serious, and cast a vote. You too Tobin. We'll do this democratically. I don't want this tribe lead by someone who all of us as a whole don't want there." She then looks to Apoc, "If Val isn't your serious vote, you should cast a serious one. And I'll help any of you, that get chosen. And I'll abstain, you see, because if Brittany did show up, I was planning to take back what I gave to her. That'd be Eldership. But, since she isn't here, I want to know what you all think." "I reckon as serious as you are silly," Will replies to the Ragabash;"Mister Gray, you damned buffoon." His look is sharp now-- alert, intense, far more animated than the confused brute from before, a titan freshly escaped from the imprisoning volcano. Valoran gets serious suddenly. "Kristine. Kristine should be elder. Tobin, with all due respect, you've only been Cliath for a few months, for the love o' the Mother." Tobin's eyes go wide and he stands up and stares at Wilbur, looking utterly floored. His jaw works up and down a bit before he's able to find his voice. "Ah, I'll have to decline that nomination, though I thank you for your confidence in me, but I just can't..." he trails off weakly, then nods at Valoran. "Kristine was Elder before, and that's who I was going to nominate." "Calls-the-Spirits has been here for far longer, Mister Gray," replies Wilbur, his pacing bringing him closer. He tugs on the sleeve of his suit. "But in those months he has shown the wisdom and the will necessary to lead." His eyes are on the boy, his chin lifted in a single jerk as the young Theurge attempts to beg out. "Dutastachna," he whispers sharply. "Ya ni saglasin, tyelyonakloona. Plokha!" "Remind me to nickname him Bubba..." Kristine murmurs rubbing her fingertips to her forehead. Though, despite her desire to wrestle the mantle of Elder from Brittany, she still blushes hearing she's being voted for. She'll eventually quit being so damned humble one of these years. "Right. Anyone else have anything to say? This time in English?" "Kid's got my fuckin' vote," Apocalypse says, chipping in with her opinion. She slants a grin over at Tobin. Valoran grins. "Kristine..looks like you get the tie breaking vote." Tobin makes a slashing motion in the air with one hand and says sharply to Wilbur, "Nyet! Ya nishd--" he breaks off as he realizes he is not, in fact, speaking English. "No, Will, I need more experience in this life before I'm to lead. More deeds before the sept will accept me." He sighs and shakes his head, looking upset. "Excuse me, I...need to step outside a moment." And he steps out the back door without another word. Kristine's teeth bare slightly, grimacing, or sneering, whichever people prefer. As Tobin leaves, she glances down to the ground, boring a hole into the carpet, or she would if she had laser vision or something. Her laced fingers bring thumbs up to tap against one another in a perfect 4/4 time, and she just..thinks. The only thing she offers, for now, is a general, "Let him be," To anyone that wishes to follow after him. It's a request, out of respect, but if people wnat to go, then that's their business. Apocalypse lifts a shoulder in a careless shrug, sipping her Jolt, her grin all slanted. Valoran yawns suddenly. "Well, this has been nice. I've cast my vote, and the other leading candidate's backed out. I'd say that make you the bee-otch in charge, Kristine. Congrats... Now, I'm gonna head for bed... You comin' along, baby cakes?" He waggles his eyebrows at Apoc jokingly. Wilbur's eyes follow the young Theurge and his departure, disappointment and irritation in tow. The expression that crosses his face is the precise type that he would get before reducing the boy to raw hamburger after a day's dissatisfaction in cub training. But Tobin is a cub no longer, and it is obvious that it pains the Ahroun to see Tobin back down from his birthright. Wilbur does not follow-- yet. His facial scars untwist, and he pulls a breath strongly in through his nostrils. His eyes rest on Kristine. Apocalypse smirks at Val. "In yer fuckin' dreams, fuzzyhead," she says, amiably. "Sorry, gotta leave ya t'Rosie Palm's tender mercies." Valoran chuckles before turning to Wilbur. "It's been good seeing you, Sir. Please don't make yourself a stranger." There's no trace of joking in his voice. Nothing but respect. There's unexpected laughter from the tiny Theurge. "YEs, definately going to like you. Similiar to Di. Rare few could dare to compare with her." She then stands up, and turns to look up at the big Ahroun. "I know you'd like to see Tobin be Elder." She looks to Apoc, "You too, probably the only Fang you've really gotten along with." She shakes her head, "But he doesn't want it. Not right now." There's unexpected laughter from the tiny Theurge. "YEs, definately going to like you. Similiar to Di. Rare few could dare to compare with her." She then stands up, and turns to look up at the big Ahroun. "I know you'd like to see Tobin be Elder." She looks to Apoc, "You too, probably the only Fang you've really gotten along with." She shakes her head, "But he doesn't want it. Not right now." She lifts her hand to wave to Vale, "You be good, and take your damn dip with you, punk." Valoran picks up the bowl, taking another lick of it before setting it down. "Mmmmm." Then he heads upstairs to his room. Apocalypse shrugs again, completely affable and easy-going. "Fuckin' cool, fuckin' okay. Fuckin' chilly-groovy." She wiggles fingers at Valoran in parting, still slouched on the chair. Wilbur nods, a single jerk of his chin, to Valoran, but his eyes have not moved from Kristine. They drop, and look away. It is a wolf's respect. "Then, I swear fealty to you, and trust in you, that you will assume the mantle of leadership in honor and all the responsibilities that it entails." "What he said," Apocalypse offers, casually. She takes another long swig of cola and lets out a short belch. It -is- kind'a hard to divert your eyes to someone who's over a foot shorter than you, ain't it. She smiles a little bit, "If it makes you feel any better, I plan to make Tobin Beta. Kid's got real potential, and the only way he's going to learn things is to ride shotgun." She says this quietly, though, her own issues preventing her from really rolling in the position. "First thing I want is a roll call, do it Mickey Mouse style if you want. I don't want to lose track of my people." Apocalypse follows the short belch with a shorter one, then takes another drink. "Ya want my celly nummy?" she asks Kristine. "I mean, I'm usually sleepin' elsewhere these days." She grins crookedly, the expression somewhat wicked. The Ahroun's right eye twitches when Apocalypse emits the first of her unpleasant noises, but it is not fully registered as his attention--now clouded-over, semi-confused as before-- is settled on Kristine. "He will serve you well," Wilbur attests. "He already has-- he is a good boy, and very bright. He could do so much." He looks a little placated, now, though the second belch does not help. Kristine just smiles to Wilbur, "He spoke highly of you. I can see why. If Tobin's a testimony to how well you train cubs..well..Let's just say I can't wait to get a new one." She then looks to Apoc, and is apparently unphased by her behavior. "Well, that'd be nice. And there's a spare room or two here, I think, if you want to just adopt one." "I got livin' arrangements," says the punkish Galliard, with more of that wicked grin. "Gimme a pen and paper 'r some shit an' I'll write it down for ya. Th' fuckin' number, that is." Kristine's hands disappear into the pocket of her blazer, producing a small notebook and a pen. She hands it to the other woman, calmly as can be. "How are your contacts, out of curiousity?" SHe looks to both here, a question posed for them both. Apocalypse scrawls out a phone number, writes, "Apocalypse," above it, and offers the notebook back. "Contacts?" Wilbur nods his head once to Kristine, a quiet "Thank-you, ma'am" made. He produces his wallet-- a black unsmiling affair-- and locates therein a small crisp white card. The wallet is shut with one hand, and replaced. "If you do mean by that what humans are available to us," he says. "I have a man by the name of Upton, a kinfolk to our tribe in high standing. He controls a real estate agency. Our specialization would be land deals and large sells." The card is offered: indeed, it names Mr. Wilbur Right as a real estate agent and consultant. "Kin, and Kind both. We're not exactly remarkable here, I want to fix that." She pauses, and takes the card a nod of thanks to Wilbur. SHe tucks the card in the notebook and then tucks the items back in the blazer pocket. Kristine sits down again, sighing a bit. "I've also thought about, perhaps, trying to encourage some of the Garou here to wed." Apocalypse makes an 'oooh' noise of comprehension. "_Contacts_. Riiiiight." She tucks the pen behind her single ear. "Um, all th' fuckin' people I know that youse guys fuckin' _don't_ know are all out on th' other fuckin' coast." She scratches at the scar tissue where her other ear should be. "I mean, I'm datin' this guy at the college, but he ain't _connected_ unless ya need somethin' at the theater..." She blinks a little at Kristine's mention of 'mawwiage'. Kristine turns to smirk a bit at Apoc, "You're excempt, of course." Apocalypse grins broadly. "Figured. S'good. Rick ain't Fang blood. Probably ain't fuckin' even kin. But oooh, those _eyes_ of his... a girl could fuckin' drown..." She tilts her head back, her expression blissful. Kristine tilts her head at Wilbur and sighs, "Actually--we have a distinct shortage of Kinfolk. Which is why this entire tribe isn't in that sorry ass state of supposed wedded bliss." She snorts slightly, "Buncha bullshit if I ever heard it. 'Specially when nearly ninety percent of them are arranged." She shrugs, then tries to be a little more.. 'reserved', "Sorry, Fianna influence," She says to Wilbur, as if to explain her personality 'slip'. She turns to Apoc, "Oh, hush, I hadn't had sex in nearly five years." "Good fuckin' GAIA, woman!" says Apoc, aghast. "Get yourself some fuckin' man-meat. Really. Bump uglies fer a night. Shit!" Wilbur keeps his expression simple. "It is unfortunate," he says by way of politeness,"That there are so few kinfolk. They are very precious to us, able to walk among Men when we cannot. What occupations do they hold, here, that aid us?" His hand comes to clasp his wrist. "Man Meat?" Kristine just gives Apoc a look of ..well..surprise, "That's been Even..." She then cuts off, looks to Wilbur, and flushes crimson. Ahem. While the urge to spout 'Black Fury Influence' is there, she tactfully keeps her mouth closed. "Actually, the last Silver Fang Kinfolk left about two years ago." "I do not believe Miss Kristine has the need for any man meat." Wilbur holds a serious, somber look, though he looks vaguely confused. "That is clearly a violation of the Litany. And it has an unpleasant taste." He shakes his head. "But I fail to see what this has to do with the topic at hand-- I want to know what kinfolk are useful to us." Apocalypse rolls her eyes upward, sniggering, and mutters, "She wouldn't hafta put it in her fuckin' _mouth_..." Kristine blinks, looking at Wilbur. Her expression is just...priceless. It's this odd mix between shock, disbelief, and utter hysterics. Yet, the hysterical laughter follows through, and the Ex-Elder-Turned-New-Elder falls on the floor, her laughter further increased thanks to Apoc. The unconventional Galliard beams brightly at Kristine's response and lifts her can of Jolt in a salute. Wilbur is faintly alarmed by this, looking between both strange females. And just think, the giggling little waif's your Elder. BEWARE! Actually, her resume, and all the shit she's been through would probably impress hardened Garou. She kicks a bit then stands up, "Uh, Man-meat..uh, slang for male genetalia. She's refering to having sex. You know. How you make babies?" "Rutting!" Apoc clarifies, cheerfully. "Hum. Mating." Wilbur's look is impassive, stitched in scars. "I see." Still, his question is not answered. Kristine just shakes her head laughing, seemingly even MORE amused at Wilbur's look. "I told you. We don't have Kinfolk in St. Claire. Not Fang ones. I know there's a Walker Kin that works in a Lawyer firm, but that's it. Hell, even the Fianna Kin seem to be hiding." Apocalypse finishes off the can -- her second? third? -- and belches again. She hefts the empty in her hand, consideringly. The gentle giant has started to turn a little pink; for one instant he looks all of his twenty-seven years, beard, frosty hair, and sharp suit aside. The instant passes. "An attorney," he remarks, clearing his throat. "That is fortunate. What does he specialize in?" Kristine scratches her head, turning to look at Apoc. "I bought more of that, by the way. I saw the Sixpack in the fridge, so I figured someone got it, might as well stock up. Check the crisper drawer in the fridge." She turns back to Wilbur, not bothering to stand up from the floor. It'll be safer if she gets into another giggle fit, "Uh, Corporate Law I think." Apocalypse grins. "Bitchin'." Then she slams the empty can against her forehead, intending to crumple it. It dents a little at best. "Ow," says the Galliard, rubbing the impact mark. For a moment, it stands out starkly against her pale skin, and then fades, vanishing in seconds. She leans over, grabs another can from her current six-pack, and cracks it open. Wilbur is not privy to that suspicious process; he does not deign to watch Apocalypse anyhow, his eyes on Kristine though she sits on the floor. "And others?" he prompts. "There was Mary Kaftan, Megan's mother, she was a teacher at SCCU. But I don't think she's around anymore. There's a few Kin who teach there, since it seems to be a breeding ground for Garou. I'll ask around, see what we got in the works." Kristine offers. "Hum." Wilbur shakes his head. "I do not understand; there are usually so very many." Apocalypse scratches at her ear-scar. "Mebbe they're hidin'?" she suggests, not all that seriously. Kristine stands up, "I wouldn't be surprised. With the Caern falling, they probably buggered out of town to avoid any backlash should we have failed to take it back." She crosses her arms, her brows coming down in a frown. "An' there was that one bitch who turned traitor, yeah?" Apocalypse wrinkles her nose. "That is true," Wilbur murmurs, a hand brought up to thumb his beard. Caern falling? "My wife was to join her father and myself here, but circumstances made it unwise. --A kinswoman has betrayed us?" Kristine uhs and looks to Apoc, "Huh? I'm a bit out of the loop on Betrayals Monthly.." Apocalypse blinks. "Back when the Dancers were in town?" She scratches at her head, fingers digging into the messy platinum blonde hair. "Some Strider kin, fuckin' heard she was around for fuckin' ages. Two kids. Turned traitor, killed an' ate one of th' fuckin' kids. Was a fuckin' unchanged Garou, too." She bares her teeth slightly. Kristine just...stares. "Damn. That's... damn." That's the only thing she can come up with that kind of horrific atrocity. Wilbur's eyes widen; he has nothing to say to this. "Met hers, though, for fuckin' certain." Apocalypse has no grins for this, no smiles. She slugs down some more Jolt. "Th' other kid's off wit' another Strider kin. Anyway... long since taken care of." Kristine just dips her head and shakes it. "That..There are no words that can even express what I feel. At least she's dead, though, she probably 'died' long before that." She turns to sit down in her chair again. "Yeah, well." The Galliard shrugs, her expression still grim; it doesn't sit well on her face, really. "When the Enemy sinks in his talons," Will remarks. "We are no longer ourselves." He shakes his head. "I should see to Mister Tobin." Kristine tilts her head and nods, "OKay. 'Sides, gives me time to get to know a little bit more bout our most recent addition." SHe indicates Apoc. Apocalypse lifts her eyebrows. The grin returns, albeit in a quirky, muted form. "It was good for all of us to gather together," Will says, showing them a nod. "And, I suppose, to decide a leader in the wake of the disappearance of Her Highness. Miss Kristine-Rhya." He takes his leave. Kristine inclines her head, "IF you have anything else to bring up, PLEASE Don't stew on it, tell me. Communication's important." The back door opens just then and admits Tobin, who is looking quite a bit more centered than he was when he left earlier. He looks around and frowns very slightly. "Where's Valoran?" he asks calmly. Kristine turns to look at Tobin, then chuckles, "Wilbur just left to check up on you, and Val went to bed. Congrats, you're in a position of Authority..." Her eyes twinkle slightly. Apocalypse whistles 'God Save the King'. Tobin's eyes narrow with suspicion as he looks between Apoc and Kris. "Excuse me?" he says cautiously. Kristine gives a bully British Salute, and does remarkably well at keeping a straight face. Apocalypse doesn't keep a straight face at all. She breaks, giggling. Tobin snorts in wry amusement as Apoc starts giggling and seats himself in a chair. He steeples his fingers together and is silent for a moment before speaking. "In that case," he says in a perfectly serious tone, "I have a project for us." Kristine's brow arches as she turns to the 'Leader', "Oh?" Apocalypse sprawls, one leg hooked over the arm of her chair. "Dooooooooo tell." Tobin says evenly, "It's come to my attention that the St. Claire Zoo has been abandoned for several years, and that we need a new base of operations in the city." Kristine turns, all parts of playing seem to have melt from her features, and she listens to Tobin. Her head bobs in a 'Go on' motion, though, the tone of that bob is less like his subordinate, and well, at least an equal. Apocalypse listens attentively, chugging Jolt. Tobin does, indeed, continue. "I suggested this before to Sepdet and Rina, but they weren't too warm with the idea, because the zoo is apparently so close to the hospital. It's probably even infested. But if it could be taken, and quickly, we might be able to use it as our own. A safe place in the city that could even be used as a staging point for attacks against the hospital." He watches the other two for their reactions. Kristine blinks a bit here, having heard.. not so nice stories.. about the hospital. "It -is- risky. It's a good idea, just..risky." "Life's risky," Apocalypse opines, cheerfully. She doesn't seem at all worried. "Yeah, it sounds pretty good." Tobin nods once. "We can at least do some scouting. Once my pack is complete we'll be able to do some very effective umbral scouting. If it turns out it's too risky to take the zoo, then we'll at least know that, whereas we don't know anything now." Kristine gives a thumbs up to that. "Good. Thinkin' like a Beta should, there." She offers, before asking, "How is your pack coming along?" Apocalypse shifts around, reaching under her shirt to scratch idly at her belly. Her expression turns a little wistful at mention of pack, but it hardly makes a dent on her good mood. Her now quiet relaxed good mood -- though how Miss Hyper gets _mellow_ on a sixpack of Jolt is a mystery. Tobin starts to answer about the pack but stops and eyes Kristine suspiciously. "I'm sorry, did you say Beta?" Kristine tilts her head with a smirk, "I did. You didn't think I was -completely- fibbing about that position of Authority, did you?" Tobin doesn't look convinced. "Does Valoran know about this? Did he agree to it?" "He left before I could bring it up. Wilbur was convinced you'd make a good leader, Val's.. I haven't seen much potential in that department, Brigid just isn't interested.." Kris tilts her head, "If you don't want to, I'll understand, but I figured it'd be a good compromise for me being Elder instead of you." "Val's a Rag, ain't he?" Apocalypse blinks a bit, her smile crooked. "'Sides, if Krissy here's alpha queen bitch of us royal-types, what's he gonna say if she taps you her fuckin' right-hand?" Tobin nods, looking resigned. "I had a feeling this would happen," he says with a sigh. "You're right, of course. Valoran has been nearly as absent as Brittany at times. And Valoran can always challenge me for the position, if he cares enough, that is." Kristine laughs a bit at Apoc, and shakes her head, before turning back to Tobin. "Would you like it? Do you want it? I may be Elder, but I'm not a dictator." Tobin shakes his head slowly. "It still feels to early for this, but the time for it isn't so far off now in any case. No, I accept, it was the way things had to be. Valoran is a good Ragabash, but he's just not responsible enough to keep to those duties." He rubs at his eyes. "What I'm worried about is that he'll feel upstaged, since he's been here longer than I have." Apocalypse rolls her head back. "Fuckin' _gawd_," she says. A shory laugh. "Tobey, you got the fuckin' oldest head of anybody in this room. Fuckin' older than Val's, anyway." "I nominate her for our new spokesperson." Kristine points towards Tobin. "It isn't being around longer that matters Tobin. IT's what you've done, who's got your respect, your mind and your heart. That's what matters. If it was Time In Service, than we'd all still be following Brittany." "I _am_ a fuckin' Galliard, after all," Apoc drawls in her thick New York City accent, in response to Kris' nomination. She grins. Tobin scowls slightly but nods. "*I* understand that, about how people think, about respect, but that doesn't mean that Valoran won't be upset anyway. We'll see, though, and of course you have the power to override him." Kristine hmms a bit, and nods, "Considerate. Good quality, don't lose it." "It'll be cool," Apoc states. "Cool an' fuckin' froody. Hoopy."