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This page is for any user of the TLK WWW Archive to post what they've heard about Simba's Pride (the sequel to TLK) or anything else that's happening in the Lion King universe. Make sure to post only info you are sure is correct, and read all existing info before adding your own. Remember, this page will be around to read over after the sequel comes out!
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Beerit, thanks for the picture! I was wrong!! Sorry everyone. My apologies.
That's definitely Kiara in the bird scene! I guess my TV cut off some of the picture!
Okay guys, I've been reading your dish since Christmas break. Here' what I've got for all you TLK pals out there. Simba's Pride will be out on October 27. he mainplot line, or a guess in my opinion, is that Simba and Nala have a daugther named Kiara, who grows up with Scar's son (Kovu). They fall in love, and then decide to run away, but Kovu's mom wants to kill Simba. That's about it. Well, can't say much more, I've got 3 guys bugging me, so more when I get a chance. Bye!
Busa Simba!
Beerit trust me it looks better on TV then on QT. It still is not as good as the original though !
Did anyone notice that when Kiara walks back as an adult with Rafiki, Simba looks just like Mufasa. The rest of the preveiw he just looks a little darker, maybe to look older, but there it like carbon copy Mufasa. It's weird !
Just a thought.
Cold Dragon, hmmm.... good point... the truth, I thought about it, & I dont know... but I guess I dont think she is returning to pride rock, but saying good-bye.... I dont know how it adds up to the rest of the plot but that's how ot looks... I dont know.... weird....
The reason I think they show it is what i said before about them returning, there is not any thing else I can think of. I will be trilled to hear what other people think it could be.
Hi! Okay, I'm just putting in my two worthless sense here, but here's something. ((Probably nothing though :>))
Kiara is *definately* in the bird scene next to Kovu.
Yes, Kovu is clearly in the birds scene, but how do we know that a gold spot is a lioness? Why would they show a scene of characters on a cliff, showing Kovu, Timon, and Pumbaa but chop Kiara from the frame?
Hong Kong Phooey
Has anyone noticed that in the picture of the "Simba's Pride" beanies, the peach colored lion that looks like a female has a "Nuka" tag, while the dark yellow male looking lion has a "Vitani" tag? Did Mattel screw up or is Nuka the female and Vitani the male?
i never noticed it untill now, but simba does look like sarabi. i like kovu and kiara too. they are so adorable. maybe disney won't state it directly but perhaps by makeing kovu look like scar they are saying that its a possibility that he is scar's son. what i mean is that disney might just let people come to their own conclusion about kovu's parentage. just a thought even though its most likely wrong. is zira kovu's mother. she could be even if scar isn't his father. if she's scar's mate she could have had kovu, before or after she met scar, with some other lion. just anouther thought. anyone know if kovu's parents are in sp ? i was looking through the tlk encyclopedia of character's and was wondering if anyone knows if Aiheu is a lion god from african folklore or if the authors that wrote the fan fic he is in made him up. someone asked if disney put out any soundtracks for their other direct to video releases. they didn't put one out for any of the aladdin sequels, but i think they did for the beauty & the beast sequel . i don't know what all of you thought about the music from aladdin 2 and 3, but i hated it. aladdin 3 wasn't such a bad movie but i thought aladdin 2 was awful. when i first heard about a tlk sequel i figured the animation, the music and the plot would suck. i was kind of shocked when i saw the sp clip on abc a few weeks ago. the animation in sp will never be as good as it is in tlk but i think they did a damn good job, not just with the animation though but also with the music. so far everything looks great. a while ago i was disapointed that disney took so long in putting out a tlk sequel, but now i think the time was worth the effort. a few of you said that a third tlk sequel or even a cartoon of sp would be bad and i kind of agree. i hope they don't do a tlk 3 unless they have a great idea for one. but what about a tlk prequel about a young scar, sarabi and mufasa ? that could be interesting. Hakuna Matata !
Just gotta tell you this... I didn't download the previeuw (it was going to take more than an hour!) That will cost some cents.... talking about cents, here are two more. But if you all say it's really really worth it, I will download it. I've taken pictures of the preview from various sites. So I was able to see alot of it. And of course I've downloaded the 'we are one' song and now I love it, it's great!! I let my sister listen to it and she thinks it's cool too! You see, she is a bit sceptic about the sequel (she really loved TLK, we went to the movie for 4 times!) She's afraid it will turn out bad and ruin the first movie. But... I think we are all afraid of that someway.
Shenzi, I watched Rosie yesterday and was quite disappointed also. But like Christian said, the guest are probably told to "keep their little thing about SP" a secret.
Beerit At this point I think all almost all ideas about the SP plot are valid, including your idea. I could see what you said happening. Just one question if Kiara does not leave the Pridelands then what is with the one scean in the preview where Rafiki apears (to me anyway) to bring Kiara back to Pride rock. I don't mean to sound defensive, I just want your opinion.
cold dragon, I disagree! (u asked for it!)
Shenzi the little dragon in Mulan is named Mushu, like chines food mushu pork.
Dara, Bummer I cant move to your house, then I'de have someone to talk TLK with... ):
Just thought I'd poke my head in here and offer my two cents again. I have generally seen Disney movie soundtracks come out a couple weeks before the accompanying movie does, in at least several instances. My memory's clear on that. Am personally looking forward to the SP one. But what I'm wondering is: Do they normally do soundtrack CDs for the direct-to-video things? The only one I think they did is the B & the B Christmas one. But that's where my memory gets fuzzy. Also, some people have mentioned some of the voice actors of SP not mentioning SP on Rosie, which is unfortunate, but, and even though Rosie's show has a pretty free format, I think they (the guests) still are told to only mention their most current projects. There's probably a lot of network and corporate red-tape behind the scenes.
Hakuna Matata ! can someone please give me the adress for Beerits's website ? today i was watching Rosie O'Donnel again because she was having Kimberly Scott on. i thought she would sing " We are one ", for Rosie because Rosie loves Tlk, but she didn't. she didn't even mention we are one or sp ! ( Sigh ), i 'm so disapointed with these people ! i watched jay leno and other shows that had Mathew broderick on them and all they talked about was Godzilla. you'd think that on at least one of these shows he would at least mention sp. oh well. did anyone else see Rosie ? rosie gave kimberly scott a cute puppy dog. the girls mom was kind of shocked. rosie always gives her guets free stuff. wish i could go on her show !! kimberly has a beautiful voice, at first i couldn't believe she was 11, but still she's no substitute for lebo m. i hope he at least did one song for the sp soundtrack. everytime i see a preview for mulan it looks better and better. can't wait to see it. that dragon is cute, whats his name ? i think this will be much better than pocohantes. Busa Simba.
hello. for those of you unable to pull up the sp toys @ etoys. i'm sorry, but the good news is as soon as they are back in stock you'll be able to pull them up just by using the search function. so, just be patient.
Arctus So far I have not seen anything in writing about TLKoB on tour. The only reason I know about it coming to my town is that it was on the news.
I've heard that it wasn't a coincidence that they decided to put the image of a young Scar in the new Lion King movie.õ¿õ›
Just curious, Cold Dragon, do you know if the TLKoB show that is coming to your town is a touring show with a different cast than the original Broadway cast? Just curious... if they are doing a touring show, then I'll bet that there should be a schedule of the towns they're intending to stop at.
BEERIT, you're site looks pretty cool so far. I can't wait until it's done!
Beerit, I WISH I DID HAVE a local Disney Store!!
I have news! I didnt notice that many of the pics in my sute were wrong, but its fixed now so come over. I have updated my site! the only place that has "unwell" pics is the animated gifs section, but I'll fix it tomorrow, so....
Ducky, I read somewhere that the SP soundx (or whatever) will be teady in october 97'. it may noy be all true but every rumor has SOME truth!
I was just wondering,do you guys think that the soundtx to SP will come out earlier than when it goes on tape?? im not sure but i do remember getting the TLK soundtrack a couple weeks before it went to theatres, same for pochahontis( i really should have seen the movie before i bought that one!). and i do remember seeing the hercules soundtx out early too. this is just a guess, i dont know if they will have it out early cause its going straight to video.
Thanks Dara! & unfortunatly I dont HAVE a local disney store.
I'm using Netscape 4.0 too, that may be why it works for me too. Well, I'm off to bed it's been a long night!
You'r right! It does work for me without ww3. Lioness, Try http://www.etoys.com/shopping/etoys/html/dis0019.shtml
Looks like I missed everyone in the chtaroom. Sorry:( I was updating my site because I promised in writing that I'd have a cougar page added today. I'll try again later tonight and tomorrow
JFT-
The URL for the Kissing Kovu & Kiara is at
Why is everyone saying kovu might be gay? i highly doubt it!!! would disney intentionally make a gay relationship on their cartoon!! i dont think so!! plus, kiara is supposed to be in love w/ him and vice versa remember? if he does turn out gay, that would be a BIG surprize!!!
Blue Lion: I was in the chat room last night until after 11pmedt with 2 other people....I'll be there in about 20 min.
shenzi-
kara- i went on etoys and the only sp merchandise i saw were the beanie babies. i looked all over under disney and stuffed animals but couldn't find a kissing cubs kiara and kovu or any of the other sp stuffed animals you described. how did you find them ?
Arctus what you said about, if Beauty and the Beast did not come to your town then TLKoB won't is not true. TLKoB is scheduled to come to Baltimore and Beauty and the Beast did not come there.
thanks for your help kara but it just wont go through! I guess thats just life. could you send me photos of all the simbas pride toys? It would be greatly appretiated! Orange
OK, y'all... everyone's been inquiring about TLKoB. The question that everyone is asking is whether or not the show will go on the road. Here's the question you should ask yourselves in whatever city you live in:
hey everyone ! i was in that chatroom before and no one was there. anyway, i can't get into the chatroom on the computers in the library, i don't know why but it sucks. next month i'm getting aol at home so i hope to see some of you in that chat room. a few of you asked if tlk on broadway will be comming to europe. i don't think it will. performances in new york are booked to 1999 or something like that and its really hard to get tickets for good seats ( i got lucky ), if they're so booked why would pack up and go to europe any time soon ? who knows though. mcdonalds is going to have sp toys ? did anyone hear anything about an sp or tlk cartoon comming out after sp ? if disneys makeing one i hope its better than the 101 dalmations cartoon. the cartoon about the characters from the jungle book was kind of cute, but i don't think its even on tv anymore. does any one know if the sp merchandise on etoys will be sold in toy stores. Do any of you get the disney stores cataloge in the mail ? For those of you that get it haven't you noticed that since last year almost everything in the cataloge is pretaining to winnie the pooh ? its so disapointing. the only sp things i've seen in it are the tlk beanie babies . whats so great about pooh & his friends ? tlk's the bomb, i'm sorry all you pooh fans but i can't stand winnie the pooh anymore and i hope that this pooh obsession everyone has goes away soon or i'll go insane !!! c-ya everyone ! Busa simba .
Just a quick note: Looks like the Disney parks will be having Simba's Pride beanies of their own (was there ever a doubt?). I have read that they will ship them in August.
Hello all! About whatyou said about the mailing list: BELIEVE HER!!!!! It takes forever just to go through HALF of it! : ) Seriously. I quit a a few weeks ago which saved my foot! (it would always fall asleep which is really annoying!)
Hi, I'm back from a three days short vacation.
Cold Dragon, I think its a good idea 2, but
hi, i am new here, i have only just gained real access to the internet so i am looking up TLK stuff all the time, I am really excited to find people who are like me, i can't believe how much info i can find, and the pictures just make me so happy.
Sean, I'd like to as well , excpet I couldn't get on until 9:45 or 10:00 (that's usually when I get off work) It'd work if there's a bunch of takers, any out there? I didn't try it because I read in a post or something somewhere that there's not a lot of people on.
Yes, people I am serious. I'll try to be in the chat room at 9pm EDT EVERYDAY!!
General chat about TLK? That's what the TLK Mailing List (TLK-L) is for. See http://www.lionking.org/~tlkl for details.
Hey, does anyone want to fire up the chat room? Let me know here or by email...
I agree Cold Dragon, it seems people (including me!) like to just post about TLK topics.
I know this should proably be sent to Brian, but I can't give out my E-mail address to recieve an answer.
Does any one know if TLKoB is coming to Texas or south Texas for that matter? Any info will be greatly appreciated!! Thanks a lot peeps
To get to that etoys page, when your wrighting the "www3." DO NOT write the 3!!! i tried it like that and it didnt work but then a tried it w/ the 3 and it worked.
Sorry, but I forgot to mention last time, but Simba's Pride toys for McDonalds will be at McDonalds from October 30 through November 19 and will star characters from the movie. Thats it I hope.....
Orange, I don't know why it doesn't work, maybe I didn't type it in right. Again, it's:
kara i tried to get to that web sit with all the simbas pride toys on it but it wouldint work! is their another way of getting their? HELLLLLLLLP!
Hi!
Has any1 heard any more about Yvonne & Yolonda? Especially Yvonne. She really has no clue as 2 what compony shes telling lies about!!
Beerit, I do believe the word you were looking for earlier in discussing religious differences in regards to Judaism was orthodox.
hi,, if anyone want to keep discusing what,, well, we have been discussing,, please mail me,,
Chris Boyce, I know that the info in my site is'nt all new, or all true, but I *ONLY* wrote what has been said over & over &
Alright, after staring and drooling over the toys from Simba's Pride, I've decided to put my input:
Hey! I don't know if anyone has said this yet but there are lots of Simba's Pride merchandise other than the beanie babies on etoys.com! They have kissing Kovu and Kiara, purring Kiara, purring Kovu, licking Nala,and the family pack with Simba Nala and Kiara. Sadly, they are out of stock, but there will be more! You can see them at http://www3.etoys.com/shopping/etoys/html/dis0019.shtml
Yvonne, why would anyone take the word of someone who can't even spell "anonymous?" how old are you Yvonne? 5? 6? or are you just a high school drop out?
Kris, Belleau, and Big Bird (ByrDIE)..................
I LOVE Lion King!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It rocks! I can't wait for Simba's Pride. What is the scar look-alike baby lion's name? I NEED to know!!! Oh, and wuzzup with that girl Yvonne? What is with her? "Hi Belleau!" Well, see ya!!!! Byrdie
Hi mollouf queen! u know me from school. take a guess! Hint: Major weirdo. Yvonne, where do get off telling lies like that? That is stupid. Reliable scource my butt
Yeah, right...they'll make Kovu gay...RIGHT!
I heard from a reliable ananomous scorce that they are making Kovu gay
Hello Folks,
The name Timon may have been taken from Shakespeares' Timon of Athens. Or from a line in Love's Labour Lost, "And critic Timon laugh at idle toys."
But who needs spanish when we have swahili!
I have *new* info on nuka & vitani!! hurray!
Nebula, I've never read Pole to Pole, but I wouldn't doubt if some of TLK is based on it.. I read it was originally based on Hamlet. A kind of interesting side note, there's an ancient Egyptian legend called Isis and Osiris that's a lot like TLK. I guess it's just a traditional type of story , but a great one at that!
Hmmm....
sorry, brian, I only found one messege.
Read "Pole to Pole" by Michael Palin and see if you don't think some inspiration for TLK came from this book.
i saw that play othellio, yea it does have the name iago in it. the play was really bad, it was alot like romeo and juliet but romeo and juliet was alot better. i dont like shakspere that much cause in mostly every play, the whole cast dies
ok, I mant ESt time zone, 5:05 k? sorry bout that
actually, I'm the same person as Lioness
Thanx Neema!
Do any of you go to chat rooms anymore? I've been there a lot and nobody shows up. I've even been there at 9:oo EDT,when it says to, but it's still empty :( Let's visit more often, k?
Does anybody know where I can find SP websites? What about LK or SP merchandise?(pleaz e-mail me) I saw the plushies and they're so cute!:)
Thanks Aardwulf! I hope I'm not going to be wrong about Mulan. I don't think so, I haven't been this eager to see a movie since TLK (the dragon Mushu looks especially cute)
OOOPSSS! I mis-calculate the 2 books of the art of TLK.
About this incest argument. In real life there is such think as Lion having incest. don't forget, when Disney was making this film they where megering certain Lion and human trates.
hello, that thing about how disney puts a shaskperian name into everyone of there movies, well, i dont know what play timon comes from, but i do know that sabastien(the little mermaid) is a name from the play "tempest". i saw it on wishbone!!(i watch it w/ the kid a babysit for)
For anyone who wants a copy of "The Art of The Lion King", go to www.Amazon.com, and search for Lion King. I just ordered a mini "Art of The Lion King" and I love it. I now have them searching for the Limited Edition big version(read BIG MONEY). But they have the regular big version for $35 US+shipping. Heck, I only paid $10 with shipping for the mini-book.
hi, everyone. i was in border's books a while ago and was reading a book called Mouse under glass and found a few interesting things about tlk. besides writing warthod rhapsody, elton john and tim rice wrote a few other songs that never made it in the movie. one of them was a song called To be King, that mufasa sings to simba. disney dropped that song cause they couldn't imagine mufasa singing. anouther song was called The lion in the Moon. Sarabi was supposed to sing the song to simba after his adventure in the elephant graveyard. i think the book said that scar might have had anouther song to that never made it in the movie. my tlk script has a different version of Can you feel the Love tonite, one that Pumbaa and Timon sing. a while ago some one said something about disney using the name of a shakespear character in every one of their movies and that Timon was it in Tlk.Timon was really the name of a shakespear character ? from what play ? Beerit - i didn't read Touch of Nisei but i read chronicals and Under the Acacias. I thought both were good even though scar was portrayed as a poor victum of fate. very different from what disney had in mind, but interesting. elyse- i saw those russian nesting dolls in several stores on long island and i saw them in virginia but i didn't get them. i should have ! they're cool and they would make an interesting addition to a tlk collection. The panther - i am reading The Mists of Avalon right now. i'm at the part where Kevin is telling Morgaine she should go back to Avalon. i love this book and i pretty much agree with you're comments. Does anyone know if lebo m wrote and performed music for sp ? i have the tlk sound track and The rytham of the Pridelands. they are probably my favorite tapes. my friend said she loved tlk so much because of Lebo M's music. i am so glad they wrote two new songs for tlk on broadway. some of their music from Rytham of the Pridelands is in the play too. i gotta go. i'm on the libraries computer and they are shutting down in 9 minutes ! C- Ya !!
About the beanie baby toys...
Can anybody tell me where I can find the site where they show the SP toys or beanie babies?
I know a couple of people said this already, but there was nothing said of SP on the Rosie O' Donnell show!! ARGH! But, even if Rosie didn't talk about it or bring up the subject about SP, she would have mentioned the name along with the other movies Matthew Broderick acted in before he came out. Right???
panther responded aparently as i was typing my previous message. I think adults are going to do what adults are going to do, but Disney mainly focuses on a child audience, so I feel they've done the right thing not having Kovu related. Children need to be protected and taught right from wrong so that when they are grown they will be responsible and able to protect themselves. I'm 25 & I understand that this is a cartoon and only a cartoon and not something to base my life off of, but that is not necessarily the case with children. I'm not saying that one viewing of Simba's Pride with an incestual relationship is going to make children want to have an incestual relationship, but several movies and/or several shows of anything will desensitize you. How many of you 5 or 10 years ago heard of junior high & high school students going on shooting rampages @ their schools. The more desensitized people become
and by the way,, for the 7430791346 time,, is there a possibility that the lion king broadway musical will ever leave the boundries of the us?? to,,, say, Sweden??
I think The Fox and the Hound is my second favorite Disney movie of all time Bambie coming in a very close third. Both totally classic Disney, but in my opinion no movie will ever out do TLK.
elyse: when i said incest was ok i meant not kids doing it, i was thinking more of older relatives,, and i am aware there is danger in repruduction with closer familymebers, but as i said,, there is condoms, i wasnt talking about fathers raping there kids,, then its pedofilism as well or whatever you call it,, but i am aware i did not say this allaborate enuff,, so i apollogize,,
Here's my opinion/response/whatever to various things brought up recently. Please don't take anything too personally. :)
I agree that the church has doen some stupid things for bad reasons. The Catholic church whole preists not marring was started so that church land would not be split up. At teh time land was split between male heirs.
(2 more wrote in the while I was ticking...)
I bought the book about 'The art of the Lion King' 3 years ago in a book store in Euro Disney.
PANTHER... I have thought about your comments and wish to add a few of my own. I don't believe the sex in the clouds thing is such a big deal, nor do I think that a tad bit of foul language is a problem either, however I do have a problem with incest. Kids are confused enough as it is to even think about trying to add that to their problems. I don't want to sound like a public service announcement, because I don't have all of the answers and afterall this is supposed to be about TLK not the world's problems, but I have seen too much child abuse in my life and when you start saying incest is ok, what will happen to children that are unwillingly being sexually abused by family members? And about the condom thing, I agree that if you are going to have sex you should be protected, but I think it is much to accepted that children are having children, so maybe it should go back to abstinence until marriage. At least there weren't so many children being put in garbage dumpsters or being buried alive as that was what recently happened here in cali. It all boils down to responsibility and EVERYONE being responsible for their portion of the world's problems and doing something about it. I'm going to lunch now, but I'll be back in an hour to read your response.
i just have to comment on how everybody seems to get so upset by swearing and words like sex that unintentionally pop up on the screen,, ther just words, in my country if a parent sees this, they probably just would smile a bit and forget about it,, and this with incest,, what a hmmpf makes that so wrong?? read the mists of avalon by Marion Zimmer Bradley or whatever its called in your language,, its not like they get a child with there mother,, or sister,, and its my belief, that its the religon that makes incest wrong, and it was religion that tried to prevent condoms and the like,, so what makes religion the highest law on earth??
Dang Brian! No need to yell. Poor Beerit.
Beerit-- for the *third* time, there are lots and lots of scans from "The Art of The Lion King" at http://www.lionking.org/~ryan/lionking/concept.
Correction, I got this info from some site:
"The art of the lion king"?!
I too saw the Rosie O'Donnell show and I have to say that I was also disapointed that they didn't even mension Simba's Pride. Even though Godzilla is the big news and that's obviously what they were going to talk about, it was a shame that they didn't even bring it up.
I think Vitani and Nuka are in Scar's pride, based on the merchandise. They come in a set with Kovu, so I'm assuming all three are connected.
i watched the Rosie O'Donnell show this morning just to hear matthew Broderick talk about simba's pride. Guess what ? he didn't say anything ! grrrrrr ! I am so mad ! all he talked about was godzila. whoe cares about godzila, tlk and sp are more important. so, theres really going to be sp merchandise ? I know what I'm spending my money on when i get a job. Who are vitani and Nuka ? are they in simba's pride or scar 's. i can't beleive scar had a secret pride and a secret mate. speaking of scar, i wonder why he gets blamed for the drought in Tlk. droughts happen, lions can't control the weather how can it be scar's fault if it won't rain and the land dries up ?
Did you know that thr lion king simbas pride is coming out in the fall, you probaly already know, please write about simbas pride.
I LOVE the SP plushies!But when are they gonna make different collectibles?I WANT TO BUY EVERY LAST ONE!!!
Dara, sorry if I was incorrect. I'll have to double-check my video.
Hong Kong Phooey, about the lion on the cliff... There IS a lioness standing in the picture frame. Look closely on the left side. And I'm sorry, there was indeed no Zazu but Timon and Pumbaa. That's because I couldn't find the adress of the picture which Chris posted earlier. Now I've found it again:
Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I only see ONE lion in the "flock of birds" scene, and he's clearly got a black nose and a black mane. He's standing with Timon and Pumbaa. Scar is dead, so we can rule him out. And the character is with Timon and Pumbaa, so he has to be somewhat friendly. It is Kovu. By the way,Zazu isn't in this scene.
I'm sorry to cause such a ruckus about the Aristocats thing. You never know. And, yes, they do swear in other movies other than the Hunchback of Notre Dame. I can recall one in The Little Mermaid right off the top of my head.
*shakes her head* I wouldn't be surprised at ANYTHING those disney people do anymore. If you want my opinion, they are totally, er, wacked out. Too bad. They used to make some great movies (The lion king, for example) but now they just keep getting worse and worse.
sorry to reply to an ancient post, but...
someone mentioned Doug Ball bedore?
Maintainer's note: What do you mean, you can't find them? You just posted the URL to one of them. There are about thirty more on that same page. -BT
we are one (are we?)
oh, thanks brian! now u took the fun of scanning them!!!!
Maintainer's note: Yes, I already said in an earlier response-- ftp.lionking.org ... -BT
Alicia Miller, u can hear all the somgs u mentioned on www.lionking.net!
OK! Since when did we start talking about other movies and homosexuals? Come on people! %-year olds read this page! This is The Lion King Rumor Mill, not Aristocats or any other movie.
From what I read at the Simba's Pride site Vitani is female and Nuka is male. I never thought he was a cub, for some reason I pictured him as an adult until I saw the merchandise page. For those looking to order, I think they're just sold out. When I went there I was able to order them, unless somebody screwed up and I get a letter saying I can't have them yet. I'll find out in 4-16 buisness days I guess.
I HAVE TO AGREE W/ YOU TOTALLY!! BUGS BUNNY IS FLAMMING!!! on the other note, i dont think that disney intentionally made some of the aristcats "fruity" but it did seem like it. and no, i highly doubt there gonna have a gay relationship w/ sp, heck, disney doesnt even swear in the movies(except the hunchback) so i doubt they are gonna have a homosexual relationship w/ anyone. but in mulan i heard, a girl thinks mulan is a guy and starts to like her, hmm..........
Could you there give me a confirmation about The Lion King have won the Drama Desk Awards in EIGHT categories?
Heya! I noticed you all are talking about a Lion King Book, and I have the 'specs' on it:
Well, good news!
Heya....
Did anyone catch the cameo appearance that Pumbaa made on 101 Dalmations the Series yesterday? When the good Cruella had imported all kinds of jungle wildlife?
I don't know of any characters in "The Aristocats" dressing in drag. BTW, "The Aristocats" was Disney's 20th animated feature, released originally in 1970.
First thing about the scene "lioness roaring at the flock of birds"... I actually DO think it's Simba and Nala. In my opinion the are calling for Kiara who's lost (someone mentioned that before) and wasn't that Zazu flying in front?? (or did I mixed this picture up with another?) If it was Zazu flying in the front the lions are at least of Simba's pride. And since Zazu is Simba's majordomo he has to help and go searching for Kiara.
Hi again. :)
The book in question is "The Art of The Lion King", which was the first in a series of big art books Disney had been publishing with the release of each new theatrical feature.
Ducky, I took the image from a GIANT disney book my friend gave me. I'll have to check it out, but it IS TLK related! It was from 13/1/92 if I m not mistaken. well, it was 92' for sure! I have plenty of cool stuff of that book! I'll show
Netanya, what are you talking about? What "Aristocats" character dresses in drag? Could you possibly mean the English Cat, who is supposed to be a long-haired "hippie" (the Aristocats was released in 1971)?
Hi everbody!
heya guys. I was just wondering. While we're on the subject of questionable Disney stuff, has anyone noticed that one of Thomas o'Malley's friends is gay? I mean, come on, he's dressed in drag, talks like a male, and even dances with another male cat. Heard any controversy over that? And another point. Someone asked earlier what was up with all of Disney's characters having childhood sweethearts. I don't know. Obviously, Disney doesn't believe in love at first sight. Or maybe it's something more subtle, like they don't want ppl to think its another love at first sight story, so they give it background. Maybe they think, well, instead of having them fall in love in ten minutes, we'll make 'em childhood sweethearts so they can have at least an hour or two. Get where I'm going with this? Just a thought.
I just wanted everyone to know that I could care less if there was an "incestual relationship" in Simba's Pride. I was just stating why I don't think that there will be one, because parents might be concerned.
Ducky--
I have some interesting info on the SP beanies. The ones available at eToys are not the same as the ones you can get at The Camp Snoopy Toy Store at Mall of America. Both sets are by Mattell, but the packaging and design of the toys are quite different. Another interesting note is that the tags on them have different character pics. Collectors beware, there may be two production runs to track down! Horrayyyyy! I get to hunt down merchandise again. ;)
Beerit, i saw your page, its great! i wanted to know, that scetch of young simba you had, they cut off the year but do you know what year they drew that cause i was curious. it looks sorta like simba, but not that much, and is the warthog supposed to be pumbaa? and also,it said on the sheet that this was for "the king of the jungle" was that the lion kings original name for the movie???
My oh-so-expected site is now complete!
I hav'nt written here in a long time so I'm sorry if I answer already anwered questions...
Maintainer's note: Well, there's ftp.lionking.org ... :) -BT
Well, for those who are surprised that Broderick may also provide the singing voice to Simba, here's a little help for you all. In 1995, one year after the release of The Lion King, Broderick starred in the musical stage show How To Succeed In Business Without Really Trying. If you are the star and it is a musical, you will most likely sing. Broderick won the Tony Award for Best Actor in a Musical for that role. He sings fairly well and I think he will do just fine to make this sequel not as... well, you know what I mean when I mention the other direct-to-video sequels Disney has done. Also, someone needs to contact Disney and ask for a list of the cast. I still want to know if Neve is really playing Kiara. Doesn't sound like Neve to me.
I agree Brian, let's keep our focus sharply on what's at hand The Lion King II SIMBA'S PRIDE.
Um, that "Anne" thing is several weeks old, if not months. How about J-U-S-T D-R-O-P T-H-E S-U-B-J-E-C-T ...?
I'm new here but I got one thing to say.Anne,GET A LIFE!!!You actually think we belive YOU???PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!So,let me spell it out for you,J-U-S-T S-H-U-T-U-P!!!!!!!!!!!
In light of "The Black Cauldron" being released, and since there is bound to be something on there with TLKII on it, I'm curious... has anyone here seen "The Black Cauldron", from when it was originally released theatrically over a decade ago? I was pretty young when I saw it in the theaters, and for those who haven't seen it, I would dare to say it runs a very close second to TLK for me... so, just a little plug there for TBC... go get it when it comes out! :)
The song "We Are One"was what they showed
My Take On This Whole Kovu Thing:
My info about TLK2 simba's pride is that this picture is going to be big!!!!! with simba's daughter as a spunky little female lioness who does NOT!!!!!!! want to be queen we all saw the pemiere of we are one after the regal performance of the lion king already I think that the Hiegnahs who killed scar might be back again cause does anybody truly happened after the fire that killed scar????? and maybe they will I mean simba and daughter will argue about it for maybe the entire movie Who knows? but show me your opionion at my address later lk fans,
Went to the site. Thought the beanies were pretty cool. The "Black Cauldron" is the last of the 5 movies and comes out in August. So, there will be plenty of previews for Simba's Pride before it actually comes out on video. Can't you tell they're taking a lot of effort to hype it up? Good sign.
Hello!
Elyse, I just went to that web page Etoys.com. Those beanies are ADORABLE!! I beleive that Nuka and Vitani seem to be friends of Kovu or something. Hopefully they'll sell 'em at Toys R Us...I'll be sure to keep my eyes peeled for them as well as any other SP merchandise. :) Just one question...WILL they sell SP merchandise, I don't remember any for the Aladdin sequels or BatB, and I haven't seen any Pocahontas II stuff out yet...
Hi. This is my first time having any info to share. ETOYS @ www.etoys.com has two set's of Simba's Pride bean bag toys. One set has Kovu, Vitani,& Nuka, and the other set has Kiara, Timon, & Pumbaa. They are very cute and only $12.99. I hope I've made a few people happy.
by all means, don't forget Disney's 25th animated feature, "The Black Cauldron," which I believe is also slated to be released before SP.
The whole Kovu son of Scar/ not son of Scar thing.
Two things that have something to do with Disney and Lion King:
I have heard several things, and the things i'm about to say here is not certain:
Hi,
It's confirmed merchandise from SP has already been released to a limited number of stores. So far all I've seen from a pic are small plush toys of Kovu, Nuka and Vitani. All pictured as cubs.
Shanobi, not that this is anything new but Vitani is mentioned on the SP site .. all it says is she's a female cub.
Hey, i thought the hunchback and hercules were really good movies!!! hunchback had AWESOME songs and hercules was hilarious!!! but, i still think tlk was the best(and Aladdin also)but i cant say anything good about Pochahontis! not many people liked it. i think it was really hard to make people like that because it was right after tlk and since tlk was so good, people expected pochahontis to be evn better, but it wasnt!!it wasnt even close!
So none of this is definite? That is what I thought at first. Sometimes I have a tendency to believe anything I hear. It's just a thing I do. So, we don't know anything about SP ey? Well, at least we know that Simba will be in it =-)
hey, wutz up ? i don't know why disney couldn't make kovu scar's son. he and kiara would be second cousins or something but it don't matter to real lions, like they would care. i don't think little kids would understand anyway.and it doesn't matter because every time disney puts out an animated movie some stupid scandal follows , like that sex thing in tlk. some one even told disney that tlk was racist and sexist and when tlk premired in Japan some people told disney that they copied off of the japanese cartoon series Kimba the white lion. Any one ever hear of kimba ? whatz it about ?? anyway disney said they didn't even know a thing about kimba. i read about it in this book mouse under glass. no matter what scandals seem to follow disney, so who cares if kovu is scar's son, he's gotta be related to scar by the way he looks. are kovu and kiara also adults in the movie ? i saw the sp preview like everyone else. i agree with a lot of you when you say that the animation in sp is not as good as it is in tlk, but hey, its a lot better than the animation in any of the other disney sequels. at least this time they tried to make it look good. the animation in alladdin 3 was awful and the music sucked.i think disney is takeing a step toward improving the overall qualities of their sequals. i think some one said a while ago that they were disapointed in the animated movies disney has put out in the last few years. i agree. pocohantes was allright, hercules was cute but is was dopey and the music was not at all memerable. it was a kiddie movie. the hunchback had some really spectacular animation but it wasn't such a great movie otherwise. i really hope this mulan thing is better. i think that disney should try an animated movie that breaks away from the traditional one with a hero and a heroine who fall in love and have funny sidekicks. most disney movies had that and all the characters were royalty. they should try something new and unconventional. thats why i like tlk. yes it had love and royalty in it, but it was more of a story about growing up and it focused mainly on a father son relationship instead of a romantic relationship as the main focus. it had a little of everything. i think think its cool that the animated films are musicals but its weird to. i mean, imagine if people in real life burst into song every few minutes. in newspapers and on tv people say that with anastasia and that knew stupid looking quest for camelot movie disney has some compition. No way !! disney and tlk are still da bomb and always will be ( at least to me anyway ). i just think disney's gotta do something better than hercules and hunchback. oh well we can't expect every movie disney puts out to be as good as tlk. i was on a disney web site and found some interesting tid bits of info. any one ever read Beowulf in school ( i hated it !!! ) disney was gonna make a beowulf animated film but they dropped the project ( so I've heard but who knows ), i also heard they are working on something called Kjngdom of the sun. its original like tlk and its supposed to have something to do with a boy and the aztecs. i think disney should do a animated film set in south america about the anchiet cultures, or something set in anchient egypt or india or africa. i know alladin was done in the middle east and mulan is being set in china but most of the disney movie's of the past were set in european kingdoms. enough of that stuff already. wow, i can't beleive i wrote so much, usally i write just a paragraph ! C- Ya !!!!!!!!!!
So is Kovu Scar's son or not? I've heard yes and no the same ammount. Anyone know, FOR SURE?
Hello. Let me state my opinion here before I say anything else:
Heya PPL!
Hi,
What about the Kovu-is-Scar's-son-thing?!
OK, I'm sorryn I strated and argument about incest in S, I was just mentuioning something I heard on the SP site at crosswinds (about why they changed the original plot)
Beerit, you were right. I was wrong, although I don't know what happened. When I was on another computer, www.simbaspride.net worked, but I'm on another computer now, and the link to the place has a different address. It's the same webpage, though. The new address:
Beerit, "Timon and Pumbaa" was CBS' top-rated Saturday morning show in the United States. It also had a successful run on the "Disney Afternoon." I guess not extremely successful, though, because Disney stopped making the series.
Alright. Rachel McWhirter, what's the deal with more TLK after Simba's Pride? You mean, after this event happens, the Rumor Mill
Christian, you're mistaken on the fact that Disney has never released a sequel to the big-screen. They did, once--"The Rescuers Down Under" was a theatrical release after "The Rescuers." Of course, from what I've read, it didn't do in its whole run what TLK did on its openning weekend :D
When browsing through the Rumor Mill as I often do I often see people wondering why SP will not be released on the big screen. Here's a few of my musings on the subject:
> KOVU will not be Scar's son
Hey Lion King fans! I've got some NEW info fer ya's!
Hey, you know what? I'm really excited about the whole Lion King 2, but I'm also really disapointed! Why isn't Disney releasing the movie on the big screen? My guess is that they are not putting their greatest effort into it. If anyone has a clue about this feel free to mail me, I'm not one to keep up with huge msg boards :) Thank you.
Does anyone know if if there is going to be a "Shani" on Simba's Pride, and what character she will play?
Sorry folks, but there's a correction to my last post. The correct URL for the second picture is:
Hello Folks,
Hi
hey,
Okay, I know a bit of info concerning the last posting:
So is Kovu Scar's son or not?? Who knows?? We'll find out. How 'bout some new rumors here? Like is Chaka still alive? And who was Kovu's mother?? I want to know this stuff.
Oh, come on!
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I'd just like to tell all of you TLK fans out there that this Thursday Matthew Broderick is going to be on the Rosie O' Donnell show. They may show a preview of SP.
Ok, since everyone is posting their opinions on Kovu being Scar's son, I thought that I'd let everyone know what I think (as if anyone cares). I, for one, am totally against Kovu being in ANY way related to Scar. I admit that there's an uncanny resemblence between Kovu and Scar, but has anyone ever actually looked at a group of lions before? Obviously some are going to look like some others even if they are from totally different prides. I'd like to think that it's all just a coincidence since Disney didn't want Kovu to look like Simba as a cub. I mean the lion's either brown or tan in color, right?
hey!
Hi there, fellow fans.
Thanks for the Chaka info Brian. You must be up really late. I was going to add that there's a big article about the whole Jungle Emperor/Lion King thing in the Journal of Popular Culture Volume 31.1 Found it in my school library's periodical section.
"Chaka" was one name Disney was originally considering, back when they were first writing the SP script in 1995. That was a LONG time ago, and the script has undergone many massive writing changes since then. Chaka was just one early possibility. :)
Before I get totally flamed here, let me just say up front that I know this will sound like a dumb question. I always wanted to find out what the name of Simba and Nala's son presented at the end of TLK1 was and recently found out that it's Chaka. () So how come he apparently has nothing to do with SP?!?! Did he get written out of some fan fiction and Disney followed the fan fic's cue? Or what? Did he accidentally get dropped off of Pride Rock? Did he get eaten by hyenas? Did he get hopelessly lost in the elephant graveyard? Did Scar's spirit kill him? Did he get blown away in a drive-by shooting? Did he run off with a warthog and a meerkat and never return? Someone please fill me in by adding to the rumour mill or e-mailing me.
I know this is a LK message board, but who watched Seinfeld last night. The clip-show was ok, but the last episode I didn't exactly like. "I've always love you-nited airlines!"
About this kovu/scar thing.Even if they did say that kovu was his son, i doubt most of the little kids would care!!! i mean, we see whats going on, but i doubt they do. im not saying little kids are stupid, but they dont understand things like these like us older peoples do.
Hmm..
Okay peeps,
I agree with what Blue Lion said earlier, except for the strong friendship thing. Personally I am a big Scar fan and I wouldn't mind letting Kovu be Scars real son but the idea of him falling in love with his cousin is a bit unnerving. Even if lions do it in real life, you have to remember this is a kids show and the animals are writen more like people than real animals. I don't know how Disney is going to explain how Kovu looks like Scar. Maybe they'll say that Scar was really Mufasa's adopted brother or something like that, though I think it's unlikely. They may not even bother explaining it at all. All the same I hope the sequal turns out to be really good.
This is just a little note:
hello once again!
So many of you have written that you HATED the "Timon and Pumbaa" series and you seem to imply that it was some sort of failure. I've got news for you folks: "Timon and Pumbaa" has actually won a few awards, including an "Annie" (which is given out in the animation community for outstanding achievements). Not a failure in my book. I'm not a big fan of the show, but I don't intensly dislike it like some of you do.
Hiya!!
I've been reading about how Kovu and Scar are so similar and here's my two cents. I think it has to do with the original plot of him being Scar's son. Disney changed it when the realized that a relationship between Scar's son and Simba's Daughter would be incest. They probably didn't however change anything about Kovu except the fact that now he's NOT Scar's son. IMHO, they should've kept him Scar's son and made Kiara fall in love with another lion, and made her relationship with Kovu just a strong friendship.
Okay, the address to the SP webpage is already on this page. Sorry for the inconvenience. But, anyway, I'll write it again so you don't have to go searchin' through Brian's page to find it. It's http://www.simbaspride.net
Well, I've heard a lot of stuff. I found a webpage that is all about SP, but now I can't find the address. I think it was something easy like http://www.simbaspride.com or something close to that. Anyway. You don't want to know why I'm a laughing hyena just now, although it has something to do with my computer teacher and the breeding habits of birds;) Also, check out my friend's webpage. See if you can get some e-mail through and tell her to jazz it up. ( Tell her Jazz told ya to.) the address is http://www.angelfire.com/ky/NorthStarStud/
James,
Wow!
Ok, this is the third time I've tried to post something here and the last 2 have failed, so I hope it works this time. This isn't a surprising fact, but Disney hasn't added all the detail into SP like they did in TLK. Example- where Simba's head first comes out of his mane- in the first one, you could see ruffles of fur sticking out, but in SP, it just a curve. And, as I'm sure you all noticed, I made a huge typo in my last post that made it- I said that Simba sang One by One when he sang WE ARE ONE. One more thing- I might be setting up my own TLK page sometime- depending on how things go over here. BUSA SIMBA!
okay this may be a dumb question but is Kova Scars son or not I have heard yes and no and maybe. Also
Uh,....Shanobi?
When and if they sell Simba's Pride merchandise, do you think they'll sell merchandise from the original movie too just to promote it more? Not everyone knows who most of the characters are besides the originals and Kovu and Kiara. I have already seen more Pocahontas stuff out lately, perhaps promoting the upcoming Pocahontas sequel. Do you suppose they'd do the same for TLK before Simba's Pride comes out? I hope so :)
Erynn, no offense, but, you're kinda wrong about the thing you said of a lion pride consisting of several lionesses and "one" male lion. Didn't you know that two to four or even FIVE male lions can rule over a pride? And also, if there five or more dominant males, they can rule over MORE THEN ONE PRIDE!! I've read a book called, "Lions Share" once, and in one part, there are SIX male lions ruling over THREE or FOUR prides!!
Ok, i think disney is trying to confuse lots of people!!! i mean, kovu is like his twin, and there names mean the same, but there NOT related!!!! people are gonna wonder!!! i am!!! i have to agree w/ dara, the timon and pumbaa show would be alot better if they didnt have human things(like cars and houses and people) if they just stuck w/ the jungle, it might have been more liked. AND the aladdin cartoon was achually very good, the animation was better than the return of jafar!! plus it was achually interesting. timon and pumbaa was really about stupid stuff, i still watched it though:P
Hello you MEGA writers...
If Kovu is part of scar's pride, Along with that lioness-what's her name?-He would HAVE to be scar's son. Here's why:
Lots to write!!!!!
Sorry I misunderstood about the whole Kiara's cub thing. But I agree with Ducky, Simba dosen't have to die for his daughter to have a cub. Although I do still think the may have one at the end, ( like the last couple of minutes in TLK where Rafiki holds the cub up) since it would follow the Circle of Life theme of the original (Kiara completing the circle)Sorry again!
Hello once again!
Im alittle confused, why if kiara has a cub, simba has to die??? is it like a ritual or something??
(continued from below)and also James it's 12 frames per second for most movements, and if you saw the preview on Quicktime like I did, it's missing quite a few more frames due to the speed it should be playing at.
James, why do I get a question mark after my name ? The movie Simba's Pride as far as I know is made in America the series is being produced in Australia with the same animators, they are being sent over here to work on it.
what?! I didn't say she was going to have a cub!
HOW CAN YOU HATE TIMON AND PUMBAA!!! they were the best characters in the movie cause of comic relief!(thats my opinion, i always like comic relief). yea, the cartoon did suck , but they will return good in the sequel!One reason is cause nathan lane is gonna do timons voice again, i dont know who does it on the cartoon but they are no match for nathan lane!!!
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Hi to all the Lion King fans out there!
What's all this about Kiara having a cub? Is she/he going to be shown at the end like Kiara in TLK? I think that'd be the best way, seeing as how it would follow the whole Circle of Life theme , the circle continuing with a new cub.
Just a note...
Heya! After reading all the posts about, I'm beggining to see some pretty downed ppl, and they're all sad about Simba's Pride not gunna be as good as the original, and blah blah...
Man.. If Simba dies in SP, I'm going to be soooo disappointed!!! hmm...
I have all new info!!!!!!!!!!! straight from the presses!!!!! Sinces i work at Pride Lands Co.
Help!!!!!!! I am Drowning in a sea of Charectors and can't get out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, it's not just you. I thought the color was a little different too. But a long wait for a good sequel can do that to people. I just want to take a minute here to point out and laught at everyone I sent a letter to at Disney because they denied ever making it. HA HA HAAA!
I know it's weird, but when I first heard Kiara talk, she sounded just a BIT like Jonathan Taylor Thomas. You can disagree is ya want... *grin*
Is it just me or does that new cub in TLK II appear to be a really strange color? I wish Disney would release the movie to theaters. I bet it would do almost as well as the the first LK! Oh well!
Beerit:Is Kiara going to have a cub???
I think, for the most part, everyone's opinons about the "Simba's Pride" trailer and direct to video sequels are valid and quite honest. I think what everyone here needs to remember is that the Disney of today is not the same Disney we all knew just four years ago. Disney has, in my opinion, lost a great deal of its specialness in recent years. They have quickly become a company that is just like everyone else. They make tons of live-action movies under their Touchstone, Hollywood Pictures, and Miramax films divisions. They own DIC Television shows (Inspector Gadget, Madeline), and their "One Saturday Morning" shows, while successful, are more like Nickelodeon shows than Disney characters. And the good old Disney characters are being whored by Disney, appearing in just about every form of media and merchandise you can possibly imagine. Don't get me wrong, I still like Disney, but these days they don't seem to care as much about anything. Just stick the "Disney" label on something and it sells.
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.ã. Wow! do I have a lot to write! my last message didn't post!
I posted info last night why isn't it up(there is new stuff there this morning?)
OK, this has sort of been rattlin' around in my brain since the SP clip on May 10 & I just need to get it out of there. Shouldn't Nala be teaching her & Simba's daughter & not Simba? I mean, Kiara (or whatever name they choose since they didn't mention it in the clip) is going to grow up to be the *queen* after all.
I liked the trailer, I guess, but a few things
I watched the scene with the birds in slow motion on my VCR, and I'm thinking it might be Kovu as an adult. Just my opinion.. I guess we won't really know until October .Hasen't that phrase come up a lot! And an opinion we all share.. I'm sick of waiting!!!! I was told by yet another Disney store cast member (a manager this time) that the SP pre-sale is in "Late May or June, right after the Spirit of Mickey" but I read on the Simba's pride site that August 4th is the day. I saw the Spirit of Mickey go up for pre-sale this week, so I'm wondering, which is the right date? May, June, August?!?! (probably August, I was given thew wrong date last time... but I did get great TLK collectable!)
i got a tlk script from Hollywood Collectibles. it is a real script and they're very nice. if you want to order a tlk script or any other movie or television script you can get a catolouge by writing to : Hollywood Collectibles 1205. San Fernanado Blvd., Unit 446, Burbank, CA 91502. their telephone nuber is 818 - 845 - 5450 and their fax is 818 - 845 - 5422.
I may be one of the few TLK fans to think
Hi yo!!
Well, I know this fella who's really into the Lion King, and he's a very good writer and song-writer too. Anyway, as he's not on the 'Net, he asked me to ask around as see how opinions might go if he said he had a great plot idea that would follow on after TLK, and be set in the same time period as TLK II. I've heard the plot, it's a bit rough but with work it'd be OK, and he'd post it as an unnoficial sequel or something. I was wondering what feedback might be like (I told him to do it anyway, it's not as if he's profiting from the characters). What do you people think?
Maintainer's note: Sure-- that's what fan-fiction is all about. :) We can always use more...
Cheers now,
Whoa! Brian, I just went to that page you mentioned earlier and I didn't know Kimberly Scott did young Kiara's singing voice! I thought it was Lacey Chabert..
Maintainer's note: I don't know for sure. I'm just going by what the most people have said here in the Rumor Mill. I'll be updating the cast list as time goes on and we get more info. For instance, we may well have different actors and singers for both Young and Adult Kiara. We'll see. :) -BT
Oh well...
okay, when i saw the movie at lionking.net, i sent the following email to racc
ooh, really? i need to check that out!:D BTW, just finished this quick sketch of kiara. It's my first try so don't judge me ppl;) hehe, bye!
If you see at the begining of the song, when all those birds fly up, you can see that Kiara is smiling at these two lionesses and a lion that looks just like Scar ( the grown up one ) but it's only for a brief second because the camera flies by real fast. That might be Kovu's dad.
i dont know if its definent but i heard that disney might come out with a tlk cartoon after SP. if they do i hope its better than timon & pumbaa . that show sucked ! the animation on sp looks way better than the aladdin sequels. the music is better too. Did matthew broderick sing " WE are one " ? whoever sung it sounded a lot better than the guy who sang simba's adult part in tlk !
Can NE1 E-mail me info on the new movie as in, "who are the new characters?" i only know the ones from TLK and am reallly confused on the new one's names. Also, send me any other info on the sequel. Thanks in advance,
Hi fellow LK lovrs! I'm kinda new to this place but ever since I saw that preview I've had to tlak with ppl about it!:D It looks terrific! The animation looks pretty good considering it's a sequel:) I recorded it and from what I have recorded, I've done quite a few pics ofKovu. I'm a bit of an artit with plans to work in feature animation in a few years so I need the practice.:) I'll probbly scan a few tonight in case anyones interrested in seeing them. Chow! *hugs*
Sorry, forgot somethin'.
Golly,how can you people aready have pages of those Simba's Pride clips up and running? Don't you have school or work or something? Anywho,I agree with the comments made on that hippo. The thing looks like it fell out of a Don Bluth film.
oh, I didbt mean he's OLD!
Hello folks,
That preiview last night was soooooooo cool! I taped it and watched it 5 times. I thought the song was really good to. When I heard the plot of simbas pride I coudint understand the part when they said simba had to eccept that scars son would be king? whats up with that? has anyone heard about toys for sp? o and alica sorry about taking so long with the test but Im working on it! hopefully I will get my web sit up soon,I think I'll just call it simbas pride. and can someone tell me where I can get some clips for my web sit? One more thing,how do you get that chat room on this web sit to work? by!
Hong Kong Phooey, it's funny what you said about the Land Before Time Dino look, because I had the same exact thought and that's what was worrying me about the animation. But I guess we can't expect the top quality animation in the original. I watched the preview a few more times, and I'm starting to like it a little better. Guess we all won't know 'til October though!
to Janet:
Thanks to this site, I saw the sneak preview of Simba's Pride.Here is what I think ,The title is actully describing-Simba's love for his family.If you listen close to the words in We Are One- You can tell ,What the Film is Going to be about.Just like Circle of Life told the story.
Oh...it was wonderful...I'm going to watch it over and over again!!!! Kiara looks so CUTE!!! Kovu looked cute too. Was that Matthew Broderick singing "we are one"? It sounded a lot like him...
Guys...
I just love this place!
THANKS, for all the hopeful news you gave me!!!
my friends, the time has come to say....
I saw the preview of "Simba's Pride" last night and I'm still not sure what I think of it.
Having been in the theatre business for almost 50 years, I am so very surprised to see "Simba's Pride" go direct to video. Most videos do well after a box office hit. Although Disney is probably assuming the megahit of Lion King I will probably propel the sequel to fabulous sales, won't they be losing an initial big cash flow from theatrical release. Perhaps the video will sell for beaucoup bucks and will be a sort of cut to the chase scenario. After all, the expenses of making 35mm prints for wide release, shipping, advertising for each screen, etc. is very high. It this the future trend - going direct to video with proven formulas?
re zinou
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Hi there!
Uh, was just wondering...
My two cents:
Hello everyone,
Hello everyone. I have always wanted to have something worth posting, so here it is. I watched the SP preveiw many times and after I stopped screaming :) I went threw and wrote down the word to We Are One.
gee, thanks guys!
Amira said that EST means eastern time but it means Eastern Standard Time. This is daylight savings so 7 pm EST is 8 pm EDT (Eastern Dominion Time) So, right now you can't say EST. Well, whatever, where is the SP sight anyways guys? I don't know.
Hey y'all!
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Ok! I saw the picture's of The Lion King 2 Simba's Pride web site and when I saw Scars son I thought he was too dark "mea, crual, etc...". When I saw the preview on ABC, he does look a lot better, so maby he will work for me. On anoutherr note I recorded it but, my antena mesed up the reception and everythig after the middle of the show came ou in Black and White. The sound is good, picture is filled with lines but no color. So please tell me where to get it in Quick time or whoever elese has it. Thanks, JFT
I am sooo happy!!!!! the animation didnt suck!!! its a BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGG step from the aladdin sequels! simba looks the same, and kiara and kove are adorable. but pumbaa and timon looked different, they look like the way they look on the cartoon which is bad because the cartoon animation sucks! kiare did not sound like either lacey or neve, but she does grow up so she'll probubly be neve when shes bigger. 'we r 1' is a good song, but i didnt like it that much.i hope the story line is good though, cause the animation is good(for a sequel) and the song is ok. well, now we have to wait even longer!
Nothing that no one else hasen't said yet, but the preview was so cool! Anyway, at least now we know from the preview that Kiara will be shown as an adult. I'm thinking only at the end, since it the story is about Simba coping with her growing up. I'm still wondering who Vitani and Nuka are. Also:
Is it just me, or in the preview a while ago, simba's cub looked like Sarabi, only as a cub.
Hey everyone, I don't want you all to think Im dumb or something because I called the sone "We are One" One bye! I was just soooo exited about the sneak preview that I didn't remeber anything and couldn't type!! Oh well
I saw the Simba's Pride preview! I can't wait to see it! Scar's son looks so cute! He looks so much like him! Now, I just learned that there was a sequil a few months ago, so I know very little about it. Anyone care to e-mail me and tell me what is rumored to be happening? All I have heard is that Simba's daughter and Scar's son are supposed to like each other. Oh, and Timons in it! I saw him! He's my favorite charicter!
Hey hey! Just was able to psot stuff here, and I JUSY saw the preview for Simba's Pride! It looked so awesome! ( I must state that the animation looked differnt, but it wasn't -bad-..) and Kovu? er..Scar's son? Looks cool. =) I taped it, and that 'We are One' song wasn't too bad. I dont know what to think about the cute animals...ew.
Hey there, guys! :) OK, now don't jump all over my case here, but I wasn't able to see the preview tonight... did anyone tape it and put it online in MPG or QT format? Please let me know ASAP, thanks!!!
I just saw the SP preview, and all I can say is....Wow. I loved it! It's /definatly/ going to be better than the first one! Kiara is SOOOOOOO cute! Kovu is cute, too! Looks like a mini Scar, though......The "We are One" song is soooo neat! I'm going to watch it over and over and try to write the words! Simba looks a little different though.....o-well.
Well i just saw the preview of the new movie, The Lion King: Simba's Pride. I have to say the animations are not of the best quality. I hope the movie looks better than the preview did. But i can't wait for the new movie to come out. Well I just thought i contribute my thoughts , so bubbye!
I just saw the SP preview. I don't know, guys. I'm puttin' alot of faith in Disney not to massacre TLK. I'm not going to say it looks bad, because it doesn't and I haven't seen much anyway. But the animation doesn't look as high quality as the original to me. I just hope it looks a little better in the whole movie! I guess the song wasn't too bad though. I could get used to it.
Shalom everyone out there in the pride lands. I watched TLK on CBC's Wonderful World of Disney an hour or so ago (good thing about being on eastern time) They played a video clip from SP called "We are One" It is cute and a great song but I noticed Simba is animated a little differently, has a smaller chin, darker around his eyes (like stage make up to age him?) also his singing voice seems different from TLK. I can't wait to see SP though!! So excited I jumped around, I taped it so I'm going to try to get the "We are One" words. There is one scene where Simba and his daughter run through some water it is beautiful, also I noticed Mufasa in the clouds...It looks to be great! I can't wait. I just discovered TLK this year and so hopefully I wont be so far behind with Simba's Pride! ;0)I can't wait to see the broadway show too, "Endless Night" gives me shivers! PS I love this site Mr. Tiemann. And BTW anyone notice Scar's son looks alot like the cub Scar drawn by Margaret Petrie?
WOW! I just saw the preview too and it was amazing! But, there were other scenes too, could that have been the second girl cub? Maybe since Kiara doesn't want to be queen, she'll give the throne to her sister and the boy lion, Kovu. This looks like such a cool movie, I can't wait to see it!!!!
Okay, that other cub in the preview (Kovu, or whatever) has such a resemblance to Scar that if he is truly romantically involved with Simba's daughter, Disney is going to come under heavy fire no matter what they say about his true identity.
Just saw the trailer on TV. It was the "We are one" song mixed in with some scenes from the movie. The song was better than when what's-her-name sang it during the Animal Kingdom special. But of course that's only my opinion. From the trailer, the sequal looks like it's gonna be alright. It's DEFINITLY going to be better than the Alladin sequals. At least I know that I can't wait until it comes out.
Hey everyone!!! I just saw the SP sneak preview, and my mind is totaly changed about it!! I can't wait to see the movie!! The animation of Simba is Exactly the same as the first TLK His mane is colored differently though, but WHO CARES!!! The wildabeast in this one look different than the first one, but then again, who cares!! Simba sang One by One great!!!! Kaira is pretty good in the movie too!! Talk to yall later!
WOO-HOO! WOO-HOO-HOO!
I reeeeeeally don't think I kin make it......only ten more minutes.....
Okay, this may seem like a dumb question: but I heard that -- aincxe I live in the Western USA -- it will come up around 7:00 PM here; as well as everywhere else. I think I'm wrong, but could someone clairfy this to me? Thanks. :)
O.K. you guys, I don't have ABC where I live just like Chris... That leaves me very dissapointed. But..... I rely on you all who have ABC!!!!
Arctus, it comes on at 7:00 EST at where I'm at. Still don't understand? Well, too bad.
Maintainer's Note: You are aware, aren't you, that "EST" means Eastern time? It's a perfectly valid question. -BT
I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only ten more hours 'till TLK!!!!!!!!
to Anoyed:
We don't get ABC in the UK so if anyone out theres gona record the event tonight and has the ability to create Mpegs or QuickTimes of the best bits please do so. The rest of the world is relying on you........
Beerit- where's your new website ? can't wait to see it. i wonder too if kovu and kiara will be adults in SP. i hope so. Any one out there from new york or long island ? I have a pretty big tlk stuffed animal collection but i can't find a scar plush or hyena. if anyone from long island or new york knows where i can get one, please tell me. Thanx. It's hard to get tlk merchandise on Long Island.
hello, about the SP preview tomorrow night, the preview wont be on till the end of tlk so you dont have to record the whole thing if you already have the movie on tape(which i think most of us do) so like if your gonna tape it, start at like the very end of tlk like right when rafiki holds up kiara(i think) and then you wont miss it. this is how it was for pochahontis. they may have changed it though, im not sure but i think they'll play it at the end, just so they can make us wait impatiently and start going crazy waiting, building suspence. well, i hope everyone gets to see it! bye-bye
The TLK thing starts at 6:00 Central Time on ABC
Quick question, Amira:
Vitani, the SP special comes on at 7:00 p.m., ABC.
Hi, what time will the Lion King come on ABC tomorrow? I can hardly wait, and I really don't want to miss it!
hello, about the name "timon" not being in swahili. Im not sure but i think its italian cause im italian and one of my really really great great uncles was named timon who was from italy. how it got into tlk beats me but i dont think anyone really cared that much.
trailers?! u can find cool trailers in www.lionking.net, or to be exsect:
what the HELL (sorry....) will happen on may 10th?! a preview of SP?
Just a little more then 24 hours until the first real preview of Simba's Pride. The final countdown has begun.
ONE MORE DAY!!!!! I can't take it anymore!!! I'm going nuts over here! Practically
Hello Folks,
Ok, I just saw a bit of animation from SP on Entertainment Tonight. In my opinion, this sequels not gonna be as good as the first one. To me, the drawing looks a bit cheezy. But, I think it'll turn out alright. They also showed Simba singing. I couldn't tell whih song it was, but Simba looks a different color than he did in the first one.
I just went to the Swahili language page.
I just found something that I just know everyone will be glad to hear. I was on that Very Extrordinary Disney Animation Archive or whatever its full name is & it said that the release date for SP has changed yet again--now instead of being on Oct. 27, it's Oct. 8! Yeah!
I was recording figure-skating last night (ABC), and guess what! They showed a preview of the SP thingy that was coming on May 10! It showed a little of Simba nuzzling Kiara, and then him standing beside her. It looked so lame compared to the first TLK, but I was impressed! I can't wait untill May 10!!!!!!!!!!!!
I found this really cool site where you can watch the Lion King 2 Simba's Pride preview. It takes a while to download, aprox 10 for the Quicktime 3.0 and about 20 for anything lower, but it's definatly worth it. It's at:
To Craig--
Sorry, beerit, about calling you a "his". I had a bad week, so I've been messing up things lately.
swhili directory, u say?
Yup, haven't written here in a looooooooong time, I know, but I do have a question: Anyone know where a Swahilli dictionary can be found? I had one bookmarked but I lost it :(
Ooooh! I can't wait to see your site, beerit! I wonder when your web page opens up...
Wow! That's cool Beerit! When will you actually open your site? Before the 10th of May?
Maybe so, pissy, maybe so........
Beerit - true there are loads and im downloading them as fast as possible. BUT HOW LONG UNTIL THE RIAA A-- HOLES TRY TO SHUT THEM DOWN. THE NET IS SOPPOSED TO BE AN OPEN UNRESTRICTED FORUM. THESE CORPERATE S--- HEADS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONTROL THE WEB FOR YEARS AND THEY MUST BE STOPPED NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwww..........
Maintainer's Note: Will you knock it off? The RIAA is perfectly well within their rights to ask websites with MP3s to shut down. MP3 proliferation is taking a sizeable chunk out of the revenue of the recording industry, and if nobody does anything about it, there won't BE a recording industry in a few years. So I fully support the RIAA in this.
If you're going to post your opinions here, leave out the bad language, please. This is supposed to be a family website. -BT
heym "Pissed Off",
Sorry, Rafiki. I must have heard wrong about the name. But anyhow, Lion King on Broadway got nominated for 11 Tony awards. The ceremony is June 7. I wouldn't miss it for anything.
I haven't visited the Rumour Mill for several days and I have missed a lot. First of all, Rick Hunter, thank you very much for the address of the trailer. And I 've got two questions for everyone: will Kimberly Scott be doing a voice in S.P. ( the singing voice of Kiara for example) ? And will the " We are one" song" be performed by any of the characters in S.P. ? Also for Janet I agree that Sarabi is dead in S.P.but I think that she died after Kiara's birth and presentation and not the way it was suggested in the Tales of Tanabi. Besides there is no other way to explain why she is not in the sequel. By the way do you know that last week (28 April) it was the birthday of Madge Sinclair( Sarabi's voice)? Poor woman, I couldn't believe it when I heard that she died. And for the person who posted under the name Vitani, I really don't know what this character's part is. Since she is a cub she might be a friend of Kiara and she might have only a few speaking lines. Or maybe she wont appear at all in the sequel ! The story has been rewritten several times so she could have been part of an old project and was finally cut out.
I can't belive Brian has actualy taken down his MPEG-3 music files, I HADNT GOT THEM ALL YET. For those of you on TLK-L then you know Brian was told to take down his MPEG-3 files by the RIAA,
Hello, just a reminder to check out my 'reminder' picture/wallpaper for the May 10th preview on this very own site, in the Simba's Pride section! Tell me all what you all think, feel free to email.
i just heard that sarabi and the hyena's won't be in simba's pride and that Kovu isn't scar's son. if he isn't scar's son who is he ?
Heck, I don't think that talking about Matthew Broderick is innapropriate!!! :) After all, he IS the voice of Simba, not only in TLK but most likely in the sequel!!! And heck, I think he's fantastic too, Annie! Of course, that's just ME, but hey, we all have our favs, right?
Uh...Annie, I don't mean to be rude or anything, but...this is a site for Simba's Pride. Not Matthew Broderick.
For those of you who've been clamoring for SP sites, I've got my own crummy little thing going at
As Simba becomes an adult and believe the entire role was made when Matthew Brodrick did the Lions voice. Matthew is not only a talented actor but has such a wonderful character voice to make the whole movie! Matthew Brodrick is so wonderful and to watch more of this performences rent the following Movies: Addicted to Love, Cable Guy, Farris Buller's day off, Project X, and the Freshman. All these movies star the lovable man who does the voice as Simba as an adult.
Just a note... I've got both trailers, in MPEG and QuickTime, on this site.
Has anyone happened to take note that there's an actual trailer with 3 or 4 seconds of scenes from Simba's Pride? I'm not talking that recycled footage one we've all seen on Rocketman or Flubber, I'm talking actual animation of Simba and Kiara! Check out the quicktimes at http://www.lionking.net/
Alicia, my nephews name in the 'Timon and Pumbaa' series is indeed Nefu, like Hong Kong Phooey said.
For Amira: The 2 sites were Busara's Home Page (you can find the link at this site on the links page) & http://www.lionking.net
Snowy, what are those SP addresses you mentioned earlier? How did you ever find other sites of SP besides Neema's site and the one with info and pics?
Some interesting information on a "Simba's Pride" voice actor:
Hello! you know how tlk2 is only coming out on video. Why would they only put it on video? wouldint they make more money if they put it in the movies first? I saw a preview of sp on tv! and it said their would be more info on May 10th on ABC. i might make a sp web sight. if anybody has any ideas for my web sight please e-mail me or post an idea on the rumor mill. I really want to hear from some people!!!!!! -Orange
Well, it seems that Sean was wrong. I KNOW all about the Lion King and here's how to prove it. Check out this sampling.
OK, it seems like everyone's lookin' for some SP pics. Well, while I was cruisin' the net, I found a couple of sites w/some pics. One is Busara's Home Page (link from the links page here). The other is www.lionking.net
Okay.. about TLKoB being booked 'til 2001:
hi, i'm 16 and a big tlk fan. does anyone know if lebo-m will be recording any knew songs for simba's pride ? it would suck if they didn't, although i liked the song " We are one ". how did Neve cambell get in a tlk movie ? ! I got tickets to see tlk on broadway but it was hard. some one told be they are booked from now to 2001 ! has anyone seen it yet, how is it ? I read in a news paper that whoopie Goldburg might revive her role as shenzi and nathan lane might do timon. I would love to see them on broadway.I wonder if disney would have a simba's pride on broadway .
Hey, if anyone knows of place that has pics or anything from SP, send me the site!
I was lucky enough to attend a preview of Animal Kingdom two weeks ago. I also thought you all might be interested in its stage show "Festival of the Lion King."
I Just love TLK and I`m gonna love TLK 2!
As a lover of TLK, I love pictures. Just to ask, if anyone out there has any pictures of SP,
According to Angie's comment, not only did I see the letters s-e-x on the part where she saying Simba fell down on the grass, but I saw those very same letters appear when young Simba is searching to find his father after the stampede and a lone wildebeest appears. It runs in between him and Mufasa, and while the wildebeest runs away, a cloud of dust rises and s-e-x show up on the screen.
I am 14 years an I loved the lion king movie it is so great.
Maintainer's Note: This is listed in the FAQ. There is a very complete page on this little controversy at http://snopes.simplenet.com/disney/films/lionking.htm. -BT
Disney's #1 Fan
I would LOVE to know more about Simba's Pride. Could someone please send me all of the information that is available about SP? Thanks.
Hey, Janet, that's a pretty good thought!...Maybe that IS why Sarabi isn't in SP...
I was reading "The Tales Of Tanabi" this morning and one of chapters in it tells how Sarabi gets killed. She's murdered WHILE Nala gives birth to her cub,...so....I was thinking, since the movie SP starts out when Kiara (or Shani)is a older cub, maybe Sarabi was ALREADY dead, and that's why she's not in the movie. Perhaps though, Simba might mention his mother's name in SP?...Who knows?
Hi everyone. I'm anxiously awaiting SP. Aren't we all? When I heard a year or two ago that they were doing a TLK sequel I thought, "Oh, no. I hope it isn't some piece of crap like 'Return of Jafar'" I liked "Aladdin," but you can ruin "Aladdin" but you can't ruin "The Lion King," so I thought I wouldn't even want to see TLK2 if it was going to blow. Fortunately the reports on it are good, which makes me feel a lot better. By the way, I believe "Aladdin and the King of Thieves" (definitely a step up from 'Jafar') was fully intended to wrap up the story line.
Hello, Can someone please tell me this:
PLEASE SEND ME INFO ON TLK2 I NEED IT!!!!
O.K., So Alicia is a know it all...but she don't know how to spell knowledge:)LOL Anyway, I hope Disney keeps the sequels coming, as long as they can keep the quality of the stories and the animation up to par. I know I'd like to see something like the Chronicles stories done on video. Hakuna Matata!!
oh god, if you taped that Animal Kingdom thing, and have a Tv capture thing, "MPG" it.. i MUST see it :) I will provide space, whatever it takes. Some feel for us poor no A.B.C. people and up it so all may see it
Hi! I was wondering what time the Magical World of Disney is on. I can hardly wait to see the Simba's Pride stuff!
FINALLY!!! i think disney learned their lesson in sequel righting!!! this is the only one i know of that has good music, AND good animation!!! i highly doubt they'll make a tlk3. Why they made one for aladdin, since the second one sucked, they felt like making anouther one, i dont know. if they do though it would be a great suprise!!!
I'm glad everyone was watching (and taping) ABC's Animal Kingdom special Sunday night (those of you pausing for commercials are probably kicking yourselves now). I must say that I was very impressed with what I saw! The Lion King Sequel looks like the most lavish direct-to-video project that Disney has ever done---it looks way better than the upcoming Pocahontas sequel.
I was just thinking what Rachel said about saying something about if Disney ever made a TLK3. I don't think it would be cool, though, because it would make the first TLK boring or something. Disagree if ya want, but all I'm saying is when they created Aladdin 3, the first movie was forgotten. Sure, I guess I have to admit that they could make a TLK3. But, imagine if the first TLK movie was forgotten. Horrible, huh?
Hé you guys!!!
The Disney's Animal kingdom show last night on ABC was a smash hit! SP sneak peak on May 10th...it will be on video, but the animation I saw was awesome! The first clip was with Simba and his daughter (looked like young nala with simba's little hair jazz thingy on top and simba's color.) standing on the same hill where Mufassa told Simba about the Circle of Life (you know, with the Antelope running below them) The next clip was Simba ontop of Pride rock. There was also a clip of Simba's daughter running through some zebras and giraffes. They all looked like baby's or cubs.
The MAY 10th Ad with some SP shots is avlable at the address below,
Well, one person has taken the challenge, Lion King challenge that is! Do you REALLY believe you know everything about Lion King and Lion King -oreiented stuff? If so, post your name in this rumor mill and your email address (I have to email it to you)and tell me why you think you deseve a screen name like mine. That is to say to be OFFICIAL Kings and Queens of Lion King. This is a test of knowlede on many areas. Do you know it all? Don't bother looking through the FAQ, the answers aren't there. Don't look in the Lion King quiz, there are no answers there etheir. So, if you think you have it all than post or email me today for the coolest test ever!
Well, I'll say this: From the preview I saw (and taped :) the animation looks good, just like Lion King 1 but the music, mainly "We Are One" SUCKS! Disagree all you like but I think that girl can't sing. I sing WAY better than her. The opening number, (provided by my fav Lion King man, Lebo M) was the best musical number in the show. I will tape Lion King on May 10th and give my report. Also, I've heard a rumor that there is a remix of "We Are One" on Lebo M's "Deeper Meaning." Someone from South Africa who has the album confirm that for me please.
May 10th, May 10th, May 10th! Yeah! I hope nobody missed The Animal Kingdom Special. Did you see the shots from Simba's Pride? They were spectacular! They were awesome, not stupid looking like Disney's previous only to video sequels. They really looked like they put a lot of effort into them. Simba's Pride is going to be great! Be watching on May 10th, I know I will.
YESSSSSSSS!
I saw the "Animal Kingdom" too!! It was awesome!!! I saw clips from Simba's Pride too, just like what SOmeone said. And I recorded it too!!
I saw the "We are one" scene on The Animal Kingdom thingie too! It was sooooo cool!!!! Will Kimberly be doing the song for the sequal I wonder. Also, afterwards they showed clips from the new Simba's Pride movie! I had Simba nuzzling Kiara, some animals on the plain and Simba and Kiara on a log: SImba was saying something! They said there will be more clips on May 10th when they show THe Lion King on the Magical World of Disney!
Hey People! I am soooo excited about the new sequel to TLK! Knowing me, I'll probably buy it the first day it comes out.
Hey, i saw that animal kingdom 2, "we are one" is an awesome song!!! this is a good sign cause this may mean they spent more time on sp than the others. AND FINALLY, ON MAY 10 BE SURE TO WATCH ABC CAUSE THERE WILL BE A PREVIEW ON IT!!!! i know laurie just said that but i want everyone to be sure to watch it!!!!
Hi i am so excited about Simba's PrideI could scream the continum of the LION KING is absolutly AMAZINGGGG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey, if you guys saw that Animal Kingdom thing on ABC, they said that "We are one" song is from SP. Just thought you'd like to know, since it straight out of the mouth of Disney!
Hello, in TLK at the very end where they hold up the lion cub doesn't that mean the cub is king because that is what they do to Simba and he became king or is that just some sort of ritual to become hierarchy?
What a waste of time....
Hi Guys! My name is Rachel, long time reader of the rumor mill stuff, but I have some SP info.
Guys, the MPEG isn't going to "damage" anything. That message you get when you download it is just telling you that it's a file type your computer hasn't encountered before, and so it's being paranoid. Just say "yes" to it and download it. It's just an MPEG movie file.
Sorry guys for using this as a personal message kinda board, but Rick can you please send me a copy of the sp preview....I tried to download it and had the same problem that everyone else seems to be having with the web site. I tried to e-mail you, but it said that you were "an unknown aol memeber" To everyone else, have a nice weekend....
I think that the "Pride" in "Simba's Pride" is one of those little double meaning things, too. I hope that thing about the names Nimka and Nuka are wrong. They sound wierd, like Janet said. Nuka makes me think microwave (like, nuke it).
I was just in the Disney Store today (4/25) and Simba's Pride wont be available for pre-order until 8/4/98
Okay:
I was just thinking.....this may sound dumb, but doesn't Nimka (one of the names that were decided for the name of Scar's son) sound like something from the word nimcompoop? Nothing interesting.....
Blackfox, thanx for the pics!
OK, I'm adding more confusion to the information we have on Simba's Pride.
Panther: They could mean pride as either way. Maybe they named it that to make people like you that pull stuff like that apart wonder.:)
Amira, The TLK2 promo is not on any kind of web page its just a download and should start automaticaly or ask if you want to save it to disk (win 95) if your browser is not enabled to accept downloads try changing it or just e-mail me at RHHITMAN@AOL.COM and I will sed it to you personally.
hi, a couple of questions: the name,, Simbas Pride, do they meen Pride, as, im so proud of you?? or, a pride of 7 lionesses a male and three cubs??? i would guess the first, thinking about how the plot rumordly is
Rick, I have tried getting on the sp site you mentioned, but when I try to get into it, the stupid computer says it'll damage something....
you know what. my class is doing a song from the lion king for a concert! its just so weird how the lion king is coming alive again. all the people in my class are talking about it. has anyone else notice that? -Orange
The Disney Catalog is already taking pre-orders on the Pocahontas Sequel, which is due in August. Keep your eyes peeled for Simba's Pride action in the next few months!
Get TLK2 SP preview vid at
ATTENTION: ANNE GARCIA IS IN PRISON WE CAN REST IN PEACE KNOWING THAT LION KING CRASHER IS GONE!
Hey! can some one help me out? I have no info on
Janet, the same thing happened to me on neemas page. i dont mean to bash your page or anything neema, its awsome, but you might wannna see if something is wrong, thanx, bye
All I know is that Kathleen Turner takes over Scar's old dominant position. She was on the Rosie O'Donnell show a while back, and she sings a song to her baby that she hopes will revenge his father (Scar's) death
THE LION KING 2 - SIMBA'S PRIDE PROMO VIDEO FEATURING TIMON AND PUMBAA IS NOW AVALIBLE AT THE ADDRESS BELOW, ENJOY
and I am new to this so can any one send me any information about Simba's Pride and plecse do email
IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE TLK2 SIMBA'S PRIDE PROMO YET DOWNLOAD IT NOW AT,
Ok, I've read that SP will definately come out in October 27, 1998. Is that right?
Snowy, "the festival of the lion king" is a big parade!!!! I hope everyone is planning to watch the lion king on may 10th on abc at 7:00 cause i have a feeling that there showing it(again) because of the new sequel!!!!!
I recently read in USA Today that the voice of kiara will be Neve Campell from "Scream, Scream 2" fame.
Yah, I saw that thing on Good Morning America also, it was pretty good. They showed some clips from the Animal Kingdom show on Sunday (the beginning of it) and they were singing CoL. BTW, there was something that I found sort of cute on it; did anyone who saw it hear how on of the safari jeeps was referred to as "Simba 1?" There was also something on Regis & Kathy Lee about the new show at Animal Kingdom, "Festival of The Lion King." It certainly looked interesting.
For Lioness Laurie, I am sorry I didn't post sooner about the address but I had no time at all. It is a bit strange because I just checked out the address I posted and it was correct. It was the same with the one that Disneyaholic posted. Anyway thanks Disneyaholic. For Ducky, yes there was a detailed preview of The King of Thieves but still, I don't remember a detailed preview of the Enchanted Christmas.At least there wasn't a detailed one on the Cinderella tape.For Dara, I think you are right, if there is just one daughter and she appears as a cub and as an adult then she will probably be voiced by Lacey as a cub. Now, if there are two daughters then the younger one will be Shani since she is the one who is said to be voiced by Lacey.But then which of the two will fall in love with Kovu? And which of the two is the cub that we see on that picture with Kovu? Kiara or Shani? I do hope that there will be just one daughter because I just don't see how the second one can possibly fit in the story.
Kalia, is the ''mummies alive'' movie for rent? If it is, is the SP preview that's on it a detailed one, or just a crappy logo?
I have just watched Flubber. The only TKL2 thing on it is the logo. It is just Pumbaa and Timon talking. There is a good preview of Pocahontas 2. I think it is called Pocahontas: Journey to The New World. What will happen to this Rumor Mill once the video is released?
Hey again. Thanks for clearing up that address Disneyaholic. Did anyone see the Good Morning America on April 21? It had a big thing about the new Animal Kingdom park and they showed a performance of the Circle of Life song. Granted, some of the dancing was cheesy, but I thought it was interesting to watch anyhow. The costumes were neat, and it included some floats from the Disneyland LK parade, where I come to my point: Has anyone seen that parade? I thought it was so cool when I saw it a couple years ago! Bye.
Ok! now im getting mad!!!! what the h*ll is mummies alive???? ive never heard of it!!!! oh and that preview on flubber, is it a detailed one or the one w/ timon and pumbaa talking????
Hi All! Just heard from some friends on the net that there's also a preview of Simba's Pride on the new Mummies Alive video that came out.
For those who saw my mistake, I'm sorry! I put my sister's name instead!
ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY! LISTEN UP!!
Matt, your right!!! i do remember one now!!! it was on like the hunchback of notre dame or one of those close to it!!! but there was also one in that little movie book you get w/ a movie so im gonna look for that 2!!!!!
To Lioness Laurie:
yo people I have a question. does anybody have a pride lands in their room you know like a pride lands that you you play as a lion and you use stuffed animals as other characters.I know someone who does. -Orange
I've been reading these posts here for such a long time, but never actually had anyhting to post. However while checking out Disney's website I found out that the Wonderful World of Disney will be airing The Lion King on May 10th. What a perfect time for them to show a trailer for Simba's Pride! I know I'll be glued to my TV set that night.
Ducky,
The Animal Kingdom Special airs on ABC on April 26th. I don't know if it will air on the Disney Channel.
I was just wondering if "we are one" will be on the ABC special this saterday night cause i dont have the disney channel(i had to give it up to get online, but what the hell)
Hi, I'm another newcomer and obsessed LK fan. This is just a quick question for Vicky P.; I tried to go to that site you mentioned- http://www.crosswinds.net/columbia-mo/~wdisney/Future/SimbaP- but I kept getting a message that said it didn't exist. Is it still up or am I crazy? Bye.
Hello, I'm here again!
This is just a guess, so take it w/a grain of salt. To speculate of Jeffy's question about a SP soundtrack, no they didn't make one for the Aladdin sequels (& yes that music sucked), but while in the Disney Store one day I did notice that there was a soundtrack for the Beauty & the Beast sequel. Based on that, I'd say that it's very possible that they'll do the same w/SP.
Hello All,
I agree with Ducky about the 2 daughters of Simba. I think one will do the voice of young Kiara and the other will do the voice of adult Kiara.
Hey, I'm new so I have ALOT of questions!!!!!
Hey, I just wanted to say something about this Kiara/Shani thing. I think that anything is possible right now. There could be one daughter or two, and yes they might fight over Kovu, but what ever happens, it should be interesting. Like Ducky said, we wont find out for sure untill the movie comes out in October. Since I work at the disney store, I'll try to get some info if I can. I do know one thing, merchandice is schedualed to come out in June/July so keep a lookout:) When I say that, I mean like stuffed animals and stuff like that. I think they're coming out with Kiara, Kovu, and Zira's 2 offsiders stuffed animals but im not sure, when I'm sure, I'll post it:)
If Simba has two daughters, why would Disney only make one male cub for them to fall in love with?
Neema, i agree w/ you about how shani and kiara might fight over kovu, but i still think that there might be a shani voiced by lacey. kiara is probubly gonna be a teenager or young adult, since neve is doing her voice and she has a voice in that age range. now, lacey has a little kid voice, she did the voice of the little girl in "babes in toyland". now, i think that shani might be alittle girl instead of old enough to be interested in kovu, but this is only a hunch, anyones opinion could be right, we wont find out for sure untill october.
Okay, to get this cleared up:
Zodiak, Simba's Pride is coming out on 27 Octomber 1998. According to current rumours Simba is NOT going to die in it. As far as Kovu is concerned I am not sure at all. If you want to find a lot of info and a few images go to http://www.crosswinds.net/columbia-mo/~wdisney/Future/SimbaPride.htm For everyone, I checked out Lacey Chabert's biography and according to that site she is really doing Shani's voice. The address is http://cat.nyu.edu/tkbalt/salingers/chabert.html
Zodiak,
When will the god damn movie
There are exactly 1274 movie reviews on the IMB posted under Annoymous! LUCKY ME!
Ok, for who ever saw the sp preview on "rocketman". Is it the same preview as on tv??? id like to know cause i dont want to rent the movie w/ a preview i already saw if the movie is crapy.thanx bunches!
Good morning everyone.
Well, since we know the sequel is shown on Rocketman--hey, a -detailed- version might be on Mulan! Let's wait and see... =)
Hi! O.K., since it seems that Disney never promoted the video release of "Rocketman" (I guess it sort of bombed then), well, yes, it's out already on video and can be rented TODAY!
Hi y'all..
Snowy When does Rocketman come out? Or is it already out? Did you actually see the preview yourself Snowy? Okay that's all.
Snowy, whats the movie "rocketman". ive never heard of it!!! What actors are in it? maybe i do know it and never knew what it was called cause i want to see that preview!! is it exactly the same as the one on tv cause i saw that one.
Ooooh, cool!!
I MISSED ALOT OF STUFF!!! ok about this Neve/Lacey thingie. Im pretty sure that Neve is doing Kiara cause it says so on the PO5 web page. On the same page it said Lacey was doing a voice too but it didnt say what part. Now, i forgot the address but you can find it on yahoo i bet, if you go to the "LOST IN SPACE" web page they have a thing for Lacey and it says shes doing the voice of SHANI!!!! so i think that there will be 2 daughters but kiara will be the mane one. seriously, i dont think lacey will sing for kiara cause her voice and Neve's are really different! it would sound weird if she sang for her.
Have u noticed that using the
IT IS TIME!
I don't have any new info about S.P. but I found a short , "interesting" review of the Lionking and I thought that you might want to read it. The address is http://www.rinkworks.com/movies/m/the.lion.king.1994.shtml
Hey all. Blue Lion I'm with you on this one. I'm almost dead positive I caught a preview of it on the TV so start watching you televisions.That's all I got for now.
The case of Anne has been solved.
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How do you get an email address here?
I heard some info about the pre-sale of Simba's Pride. I was at my local Disney Store and they were advertising a Lion King Open House to promote a new 'Simba's Spotlight' sericel on April 25-26 (it's supposed to be at all Disney stores and Disney gallery stores). When I picked up this info, a cast member mentioned Simba's Pride to me. I asked her if she knew when I could pre-order it and she said she thought it would be available for pre order in a few weeks. I think this meant during the open house. This may not be true, but I hope it is. Based on what she told me, I'd say either during the Open House or shortly after. Well, we can hope it's true, only two weeks to wait for a SP lithograph!!
IF Simba is going to have two daughters, I was wondering......if one daughter falls in love with Kovu, shouldn't the other daughter get jealous or something?
The address of the Internet movie Database S.P. site is http://us.imdb.com/Title?Simba%27s+Pride+(1997)+(V) But have in mind that, as Chris very well said, the IMDB cannot be taken as a reliable source since S.P. hasn't come out yet.
Ok, Lyn, for you I just added some Kovu info to Simba's Pride IMDB entry. I also made one other change. Miana, if I can change it, anyone can - there's no way it's in any sense reliable, nor necessarily accurate. BTW, the changes I made were based on the best available primary source data.
I went searching in yahoo and I found the Internet Movie Database. But if it is a reliable source? I don't know.
Miana, could you please give us the adress from the Internet Movie Database?
Simba WILL have two daughters.
Ooops! Sorry, what I meant to say in my previous posting is that Neve Cambell might be doing Kiara's speaking voice and Lacey Chabert might be doing Kiara's SINGING voice ( if Kiara has any song). I hope I didn't make anyone feel confuged.
Hello Folks,
You are right Chris. Indeed the IMDB is not a reliable S.P.spurce but it is not impossible that Simba might have two daughters.There were rumours in the past that the original plot would involve Simba's daughter and son. But to be quite honest I hope that Kiara will be Simba's only daughter in S.P. (how can the second one fit in the story anyway?).But since two actresses are said to be doing Kiara's voice the only explanation I can give is that Neve Cambell is doing Kiara's speaking voice and Lacey Chabert is doing Kiara's speaking voice.Remember, in "Anastasia", Lacey Chabert was doing young Anastasia's singing voice { her speaking voice was done by another person).And in the Lionking, different persons were used for Simba's and Nala's speaking and singing voices.Young Simba's speaking voice was done by Johnathan Taylor Thomas and his singing voice was done by Jason Weaver.Adult Simba's speaking voice was done by Mathiew Broderick and his singing voice was done by Joseph Williams. The same goes for Nala too. As a cub her speaking voice was done by Niketa Calame and her singing voice was done by Laura Williams and as an adult her speaking voice was done be Moira Kelly and her singing voice was done by Sally Dowrsky.
Hello Folks,
*blinks*
TWO daughters???? Wow!! Sounds like a story me and my friend did. We did our OWN version of the LK sequel. I don't have it on disk, so I cna't give it to anyone who wants it. :( But the plot was the same. It was pretty cool. :>
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Hello Folks,
On April 26, there will be a TV special (I believe on ABC) celebrating the opening of Walt Disney World's newest theme park, Disney's Animal Kingdom (which opens April 22). A press release on this special mentions that "We Are One", a song from the direct-to-video Lion King Sequel, will be performed by 11-year old Kimberly Scott. Does anyone know who this person is??
Hiya, guys- LONG time no roar!
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Also, I thought you guys would like to hear this paragraph:
Whew! I'm really glad now that I know Anna's a stupid fake. Oh well, at least we can enjoy our lives now and go one about Simba's Pride...
Simba has two daughters??
After reading Raistlyn's posting where he mentioned that Lacey Chabert does the voice of Simba's daughter in the sequel I was surprised because so far everyone believed that Kiara was voiced by Neve Cambel. I visited the Internet Movie Database S.P. and guess what I found out : According to this site Simba is going to have TWO daughters ! The first one is Kiara and she is voiced by Neve Cambel and the other one is called Shani ( you remember this name don't you ?) and she is voiced by Lacey Chabert. Also for Kim, great list !!! Scar would be perfect as Cal.However I prefer Simba to be Jack and Nala to be Rose. In the "A matter of pride " fanfic story when Scar took over the Pridelands he declared that Nala would be his wife when she grew up. But Nala didn't like this idea so she ran away when she became an adult.What's more, an incident like this happened in the LK Broadway Musical. For everyone who is reading this, please have in mind that "A matter of pride " and "The Chronicles of the Pridelands" that Kim mentioned before, are just fanfic stories and their authors have nothing to do with Disney.So those stories and any other LK fanfic should't be taken as official LK sources. I don't really think that Sarabi ever fell in love with Scar. Maybe Scar liked her, although he doesn't give me the impression of a villain who lusts for a female (just like Frollo and Gaston).But I don't really believe that Sarabi ever liked him.In the movie it is obvious that her heart belongs to Mufasa.
i just watched lionking for second time after long time and we noticed something...the one scene where right before the leaves are blown to the monkey, the leaves spells out something really quick...whats that?? i had to come to a lionking site to ask this. guess i found one. by the way, this is one dope site.
Got a message for you all.
Okay I take it I've missed alot.!! Anyway this is going to sound queer, but does someone have a e-mail address for Michael eisner reason is there is a good possibility he's related to me because my grandma's maiden name is eisner plus some of my relitives in Kentucky thought it too.One other question anyone got a address to a sight for Lion king Broadway appearal becaue I've seen sights similar to that but no Lion king. If not any cataloges by chance? Go ahead and e-mail me also I'm not scared like some person on this site. But I'm not going to name names but her initials are FBI if you know what I mean.
heyyyyy everybudy!!!!
TLK is the greatest! Ever since I saw the movie, I've loved big cats, and will continue to do so forever! I'm glad there are many MANY sites like this one that show our appreciation for the work Disney has done, and the great movies they have made.
HI all TLK lovers I apologize for saying choice words on this website I should not have lost my temper the words I said was just an eye sore it just bothered me that some people just like to ruin it on people
Lovely Lacey Chabert,(Penny Robbinson in Lost in Space) is the voice of Simba's duaghter in the new video, but my question is which came first, Space, or The jungle.
When rafiki held simba on the opening scene above pride rock,
OK, I was thinking that since SkyBox (ya know, the card makers) made 2 sets of TLK cards and a special tin set, are they planning on making a set for Simba's Pride? I know they didn't for the Aladdin sequels, but I was just wonderin'.
Flubber comes out this month, I check it for a SP
ANNE shut the !@#$% up as you can see you are !@#$%^&*() everyone off and you are only a baby who wants to be noticed by everyone by crying or lying if you like to bother people go in a hole and yell all you want and no one will hear in other words SHOVE IT WITH BARBWIRE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maintainer's Note: All right, that's enough. Please, let's drop this topic and stop prolonging its life. There are already six responses to Anne's post before this one. We don't need any more, okay? For the record, she's posting from an AOL address; someone earlier looked up her name and found that she's 16 years old. This doesn't need any more attention... let's move on to a new subject. Okay? Thanks... -BT
On with the saga of Anne, the little orphan FBI agent... oh... wait. This is a site for LION KING fans:0 My mistake:) I see she still doesn't have an e-mail address. I guess she couldn't take the heat of the fireballs that would come her way;)
hello all!
Anne Garcia,
Anne, will you please go away cause no one is taking you seriously. If you dont like the Lion King, fine, we dont care but please, could you spend your time somewhere else? Surely you have better things to do like all of us here and i think you should spend your time on more important things. Thats all i have to say about thatÜ
Oh Anne, please "yawn" give us a break will ya?
Look, Anne -- stop this! You're /fake/, just trying to get us to hate TLK or something.. I don't know; but, for one thing, you are annoying the heck out of all of us. Please, if Disney wanted us not to do these sites and such, they would of told us. Please do not ruin everything for us..
Hello All,
Hi. I'm new!
Oh yes... another thing about Zira. Maybe she just felt too good to go hunting (with a possibility to get dirty, hurt or worse... killed) She seems like that kind of person (lioness) to me. Besides, she was the 'wife' of Scar then, and so too important to do a dirty job like hunting.
Ok, first off -- I agree with Dara. I mean, yes, they could of not been in love and whatnot; but what is the point of revenging Simba if she didn't love Scar in the first place? It's a pretty dumb thing for Disney to do, in my opinion, at least.
hi,, about the broadway Musical,,, will it ever go outside the boundries of USA?? i really like to see it, but a trip to USA is expensive,, very expensive,,,
okay, i've decided to do something here... i'll never post only one article at once. :P so here' my second, just like the last time i posted. is there any place i could find some more info on tlk2? are there any clips out yet?
okay, since tlk64 seems to be a hot subject, i thought i'd post about it again. first of all, writing to nintendo won't help; they wouldn't make the game. if you want it, write disney's computer-videogamegame-whatever-making people about it. they'd be the ones to produce it. and while i doubt there will be a tlk64, there could very well be plans already for tlk2:sp64. that's just my $.02
If Scar didn't have a love-affair with Zira, I mean, if the just "did it" to make a son, why should Zira revenge Simba? If Scar didn't love her what's the point then? She could only be mad at Simba because her son has no rights on the throne anymore. So, I think they were in love.
Hi y'll i've been watching you talk about the Lion King videogame but what if they made a Simba's Pride N64 game instead
Okay, guys, it's late and I have to make this quick, so listen up.
Hi my name is Gabriel. I am 17 and a meerkat.
To Peter Jenkins:
I wonder what will happen when Simba's Pride comes out what will Rumormll talk about not that i'm putting down but I wonder will this page close?
Maintainer's Note: We'll see how it goes... I'll watch to see whether people continue to find things to post about, and if they do, I'll leave the page up. If it just dies out, I'll remove it. -BT
Chui, I think Mufasa should be Jack instead of Simba because Mufasa dies in TLK as well. And if you read Chronicles of the Pridlands you will see that Sarabi was to wed Scar, but she fell in love with Mufasa. So I think it could work that way. WHy not makeit liek the movie.(Titanic) :>
KIM thankyou for agreeing with me I like the way you set up the crossover characters do you think that some of them should die or should there be a twist and they all live?
Hello, i wanted to comment on Vicky P's post. like, even if scar and zira didnt fall in love, they still had to mate and stuff cause scar needed a son(like you said) cause they have to keep thecircle going. now since she wasnt the head hunter she may have left for some reason, who knows, the time when simba is w/ timon and pumbaa is beyound us,, anything could have happened during that time. so, if they did do something like that, disney would find someway to make it make sence, they always do!
Hehe for the person who thought up a TLK/Titanic crossover idea. hehe I had that idea too. :> THat COULD be interesting. Here is my idea for the cast of characters. :>
This is for Megan. You mean that a woman does Kovu's voice? That's funny.... So he wasn't voiced by Jason Marsden ( Step by Step) ? And will he finally be Scar's son? I really don't like this idea. I also don't like the idea of Zira being Scar's widow. How did Scar meet her anyway? Was she a member of the pride from the begining or did she joined them after Mufasa's death? And where was she the day that Simba returned ? Was she banned from the pride or did she run away by herself and then she gave birth to Kovu ? Also think of it another way : if Zira was Scar's wife, she should have been the leader of the hunting party too ( at least this is what usually happens). Yet, the day Simba comes back we see that the leader of the hunting party is still Sarabi. So Zira couldn't have been there. But the most surprising thing is that Scar managed to fall in love ! How did THIS happen anyway? In the movie he appears to be evil and cruel and ruthless and he seems to hate all the lionesses.Maybe he just wanted a son . Well, it appears that many things will have to be explained in the sequel. And to Peter Jenkins : you are right about sequels. Although I like the two Aladdin sequels ( I haven't seen the Enchanted Christmass yet) I hope that Disney has done a better jod with S.P. and the Pocahontas sequel.
F.B.I. again.
I, for one, am NOT going to watch the Lion King sequel. I despise Disney sequels. I am one of the world's biggest Disney animated movie fans, and I collect them. However, the sequels to "Beauty And The Beast" and "Aladdin" were bad enough. Now I hear they are going to make a sequel to Pocahontas (which seems ridiculous) AND The Lion King. Face it, the sequels aren't by the people who make the original movies, they use cels instead of computer-colouring so the picture is never as good, and they just never get the magic that the original had. It drives me mad how they can't just leave a beautiful movie alone.
Hi again TLK lovers i've been on the WEB for a while and I wondered if it would be cool if Disney made a Lion King and Titanic parody with Simba as Jack and Nala as Rose with all the Lion King characters as crewman and pasengers
Grrr! No SP preview on Little Mermaid video.. Just thought I'd drop that bit of info for those who were wondering.
Hi ya all you pridland lovers so ann made a bad joke about the lion king lighten up even though i'm new i've been following up and you guys have some great information
To Mauloff Queen-
Well, I see someone took my joke a bit seriously. I was kidding around when I said that I was an FBI agent but who the hell is Anne? I know that it's not me. My joke was an early April Fool's but I think Anne took it seriously and stepped in. Boy, oh boy does she need to lighten up. I already know about the people and their little fake drawings and posters and stuff. I see those little copyright stuff. I made a Lion King scrapbook of pictures and stuff and even though I'll NEVER sell it, I STILL have a copyright page. So for all you sceptics who think Anne is me, think again. My post was a joke which someone happened to see and take for granted.
I also saw "Simba's Pride" commercial after a Barbara Walters special. It was with Timon and Pumbaa talking to each other about it. I also saw the lady who does Kovu's voice, Scar's son, on Rosie O'Donnell show a couple weeks ago. I agree that the next Lion King movie will come out in October 98.
Hi, I saw a preview for the new lion king movie so I got online to see if there was any information on it. I found this but the commercial I saw was different then what you've posted. It said "its coming back" and then you hear a lion roar and it then flashes "october 1998". I was wondering if anyone else saw this. Thank you
You're right Kris!!
Hi, everybody, does anyone know when the Trailer for S's P will be available to download.
Hello, fellow fans!
Hi everyone!
Who the heck is 'Anne', anyways?
While I think it'd be a great idea to make a TLK64 for the N64, there probably isn't much of a chance of it happening. Disney games on the whole haven't ever really sold that well (except for Aladdin on the Genesis, which, even though I personally hate Sega, I have to admit was a great game). Anyways, as far as I know, there aren't any plans for any Disney games on N64, but I'd sure sign if anyone's daring enough to start a petition for this thing. Lion King in 3D? That's enough to make your heart skip a beat... :P
Hey, guys! I forgot something last time I posted here. What site do you mean about Simba's Pride is shut down? The one on the Crosswinds is still up.
Ok, i'm abit interested in Anne saying that the pics on the now down SP website are NOT authorized by disney for the public viewing yet. Meaning we were not supposed to be shown them yet.
You go, Snowy! I hear ya about the first Ammendment thing.(How else would we have people like David Lettermann with their own TV shows?)
Please, what is all this about Anna and the FBI?
To Sichi/Sarafina,
Anna, dear, please listen to the other fans. They have a right to post pictures from the movie _The Lion King_, and since it's been well over two years, I'm sure Disney would have had time to look at all their fans and notice pictures taken from the movie.
May 29 - 02:50
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& another thing with the family semilarities, there were 2 lions on TLK that had a "going" nose, like I call it. it means that the nose was very dark & when it went through th the eyes it started being at the same color as the body. scar & simba had it. but Kovu doesnt, & kiara doesnt. maybe that skipped a generation too? (:
Amira, sorry u cant get into my site. its not my falt, but I'm still sorry... (;
by the way, I changed the bottons in the frames, please tell me if u like these better! PLEASE!
Dara, dont u have "get right"?! u can start downloading today, then continue tomorrow, how do u think I downloaded "Netscape Communicator"?! its took me 5 days!!!! (with "get right" of course!). there's a link to the company's site on the quick time archive on this site! check it out! oh, & Dara, I may be able to talk TLK here, but what about all the other 2 hours when I'm awake a day?! ((;
shenzi, I dont think disney will do that. its like saying because simba hanged out with mufasa he's probebly his son... aaa.... no....
& I didnt like the aniomation too much... I mean, simba looked ok, kiara looked like sarabi (sorry, but sarabi was ugly), kovu is cute, the guys who painted it dont know how to color sky!!
pride rock looked simply awful.... well, u get my drift.... but I only watched as a QT so maybe it looks better on TV....
Hong Kong Phooey, sory, I probebly misunderstood... & u know the goldish spot is a lion couse it has a mouth!!! I dont think trees has mouths... (:
anyway, Hong Kong Phooey, I m bored to hell, so I made a little pic for u at http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Stadium/1590/21.gif
we are one
May 29 - 01:16
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Just a thought
May 28 - 20:58
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Okay, so when Rafiki hold Simba up he just sorta goes limp and looks at all 'da savanna before him, and he's all, 'I just can't wait to be King' and stuff, right?
So you know when Rafiki picks up Kiara at the end of the movie she's struggling a bit and all? Like she doesn't want to be held by her armpits over a, like, 100 foot drop an' all. ((Gee-- I wonder why? :>)) And from the "We are One" song I'm guessing, atleast at the beginning, that she doesn't want to be queen 'cause it 'no fun'.
Get my point? ((I had one?? :>))
Well, it was *supposed* to be that Simba is all calm when he's held up and he "can't wait to be king" and Kiara looks scared and stuff when she's held up and she *doesn't* want to be queen. ((At least-- that's what she says at the beginning of 'We Are One'. :>))
Like I said, worthless, two cent spam, but I can't sleep and I'm bored. :P
--Kides/Baji
May 28 - 20:10
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You can even see you roaring and scaring the birds into flight. I can't believe you can't tell. ((No 'fense meant of 'course))
If you pause it just before the birds take flight you can see her right on the edge, though only her mouth in on screen after a couple seconds.
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May 28 - 18:30
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I have watched the SP preveiw in regular, slow, frame by frame, and pausing at certain spots.
I can clearly see what appears to be a grown up Kovu. There if a goldish spot beside him that he is looking at, my guess a female lion and proably Kiara.
I don't have a scaner so I can seen you a pic of it. Also I have not seen a pic of Kovu and the golden spot .
Sorry I can't be of more help
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By the way, I still only see one lion--Kovu--in the scene will the birds. And Beerit, I NEVER said that Zazu was in that scene. Dara said that, then said she was mistaken.
Could someone get a picture of the bird scene and show me the alleged lioness? I don't see more than one lion!!
May 28 - 17:36
Location: long island
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May 28 - 16:26
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Beerit we DO already talk about TLK... here on the Rumor Mill. No need to move my house, ha ha!
I'm gonna check your site again tonight.
Bye!!!
Dara
May 28 - 13:34
Location:
E-mail: Bankster@msn.com
I can't get on your site, Beerit. The computer keeps telling me that there is no connection to your site. ?????WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS STUPID COMPUTER????
>>>sorry, I was yelling<<<
cya
P.S. I went to the place where they have the SP toys and the Purring Kiara looks SO CUTE!! I'm going to wait untill the SP toys come to my stores because it'll be easier to get them then off the computer.
May 28 - 10:24
Location: Maryland, USA
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Secondly I agree that Simba looks alot like Sarabi. The main diffrence I see are the black ear markings. Sarabi was the only lion or lioness I saw that had them. Simba had them when he was young but lost them with age. The second two differances I see are minor. Simba's nose looked a little diffrent then Sarabi's . Also he was more compact, but I think that was just because he was a male.
It would have been cool if Disney had made Kiara have the same black ear markings. Maybe it could of been a trait that skipped a generation.
On another note did anyone go to the chat room last night? I wanted to but had to work till 10:30 EDT time and when I did get home my Dad would not get off the computer.
I hope to be there tonight around 9:00 EDT tonight. Hope to see people there :)
Sorry I wrote so much.
You can now see why all my friends and family run screaming out of the room anytime anything having to do with TLK comes out of my mouth.
May 28 - 10:11
Location: TKL http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Stadium/1590/SP.htm
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I dont think that simba will have a poblem with Kiara & Kovu's... thing! I mean, its kinda stupid if u think about it! he isnt scar's son, & he's solid, he's pobebly funny & fun to hang around with! & I bet he was at his best behavior every time he & simba met! so what's the problem here? I think that the plot will be something like this:
As cubs, Kiara & Kovu meet & become friends. Kovu is being raised to defiet simba, bla bla bla...
Someone tips simba about scar's lost pride, & simba (being his noble self), invites them to live in the pride lands! what he doesnt know, is Zira's evil plan to kill him, by using her son!
Kovu & Kiara, by the way, are very surprised to find out that they are going to "live toghther"!
Kovu finds out all about Kiara, including her daddy! no he doesnt know what to do!!!!
ta-da! sounds kinda neat, uh?
what do you think, my friend?
about that Kiara/sarabi this. if u look carefully, u will see that simba is sarabi with a mane & different colors. no, I mean it! but I dont mean "kinda"! I mean what I mean! sarabi with a mane! & I dont care what u say! I see it loud & clear! ):<
(dont worry, I'm not yelling)
we are one
p.s. My site's URL had changed just a tad!
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Stadium/1590/SP.htm
I had updated it too, & now it has frames! it looks almost like a normal site!!!!!!
May 28 - 07:24
Location: Maryland,USA
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Berrit I also like Kovu the best so far. I like the way that Disney made him look like Scar but solid instead of scrawney.
After watching the SP preveiw many times I makeing a guess at the larger plot. I think that after Kiara becomes friends with, or falls in love with Kovu, Simba ovously finds out. He proably pulls the old " no daughter of mine is dating a Scar look alike while living in my Pridelands". Kiara proalby elopes with Kovu, or mabe goes to live with his pride. There fore the scean where she roars and scares the birds is proably her and Kovu returning later.
Just a thought, feel free to agree or disagree, my feelings don't bruse easy. :)
May 28 - 06:58
Location: TKL http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Stadium/1590/TKL.htm
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Naaaaa! I'm just kidding too!!!! (;
I had comed to the conclusion that Kovu is my favorite character! just look at him!! its like a mini-scar! (I didnt like scar, but its still cute)
I noticed that Kiara looks like sarabi too! & when u see her right before the scene with the flying birds & the scar-look-alike lion, u see her smiling? there she looks just like sarabi!!!
but after simba & she see the little deer (?) walking & jumping & u see Kiara again, she looks just like nala! she is SOOOO pretty in that shot!
did u notice it too?
well, that's all for now!
we are one
p.s. I always put my site adress in the location thingie.
May 27 - 23:08
Still a student
Location: Still Hawaii
E-mail: ziebarth-christian@byuh.edu
CMZ
May 27 - 22:28
Location: Long Island
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May 27 - 16:42
Location: sacramento
E-mail: elysemize@lycos.com
May 27 - 15:55
Location: Maryland,USA
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They were talking about rebuilding a local old theather and just mentioned that the TLKoB was coming there.
I did hear that there would be diffrent on tour version then the offical Boardway version, due to the complicated sets and props.
If I get anything in writing I'll be sure to post it here.
Sorry I don't have more info.
May 27 - 14:39
I'm my own Company
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May 27 - 12:57
Bear Paw Productions
Location: Wrong, as usual
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org
More food for thought... :)
Arctus
May 27 - 11:34
Location: sacramento,ca
E-mail: elysemize@lycosmail.com
May 27 - 11:20
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I bought the book 'the art of TLK' in the Euro Disney park in France. There's not ONE Disney Store in my country!! What I've seen or what I've bought was in other forein countries like the United Kingdom and France. But you can move over to my house if you still wish... just kidding!
I went to Beerit's site and it looks great! It's not all finished yet, but we have finally another SP-site! Kovu looks like a sturdy young lion cub! And Kiara looks like Sarabi, that's for sure!!! Maybe it's to pay honour to Madge Sinclair??
Well, about TLKoB... just let me hear when some of you have some info about it coming to Europe. Maybe in the year 2000 or something... I think we'll have to wait a loooooong time, Panther.
mmmm, don't know what to tell anymore...
See you later!!
Dara
May 27 - 10:32
Location: TKL http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Stadium/1590/TKL.htm
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we are one
p.s. brian, I'm using you're links in the clips section, just till I get into my new adress. is it ok?
May 27 - 09:51
Location: TKL http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Stadium/1590/TKL.htm
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I think it may be ready, or almost ready, & that it will be reliesed early like u said.
but maybe that's just me....
we are one
May 27 - 05:06
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May 27 - 04:04
Location: TKL http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Stadium/1590/TKL.htm
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do u mind if I move to your house so I'll have one?! (:
& maybe no one answers about TLKoB couse we dont know either?! I know I dont!
shenzi, I dont like pooh either! he bugs me, I didnt even like him when I was a little kid!!!
well, evrybody here r talking about TLKoB so I will say something although I dont care about it AT ALL, & I dont realy know much anyway....
my friend bought the soundtrack of it & its realy cool!!!! there!!! I SAID IT!!!!!!!
by the way, the song they play at the end of "hercules" is one of disney's best work!! I know, I know, SP site.... so to make this messege relevant to this page:
"we r 1" is better then any song on TLK. dont argue...
Ducky, some one came here & said that she found out from an "ananomous" (the ones who read the messege understand!) that kovu will be gay, so we're commenting.
we are one
May 27 - 03:22
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May 26 - 21:41
Location: Houston, Tx
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If that doesn't work try upgrading your browser, I use Netscape 4.04. If that doesn't, work I'm stumped.
P.S.Thanks for your help Blue Lion
May 26 - 21:17
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( I can get on closer to 9:00 tomorrow, I'm off work and only have a volunteer dinner to go to.)
JFT : the etoys url worked for me, but I guess for some they had to try typing it without the 3 after www. This worked for someone else, I forgot who posted it. They might still be sold out, but check back often. I was lucky to get the beanbags but not the others. BTW.. there's several more, typ 20-25 each time in place of the 19 to see all of them, they call up as seperate pages instead of all on one for some reason.
I don't think Kovu is gay. Someone's just trying to annoy us. Some people get on the internet to start arguments.
May 26 - 20:53
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when I typed that, it said that the file didn't exist! DOES it work for anybody else out there?
May 26 - 19:15
Location: Houston, Tx
E-mail: Taylor6@Ix.Netcom.Com
http://www3.etoys.com/shopping/etoys/html/dis0021.shtml
May 26 - 18:01
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May 26 - 17:47
Location: Chatroom
E-mail: sean@schoollink.net
Lee from Austrialia: come to the chat room!! I'll try to be there for at least 2 hours 9-11pm EDT
Sean
May 26 - 17:43
Location:
E-mail: laymonw@erols.com
I've seen the beanies for SP, but there's also Purring Kiara. the URL is:
http://www3.etoys.com/shopping/etoys/html/dis0019.shtml
But I haven't seen anything about the kissing kovu and kiara. Anybody have any word about it?
BUSA SIMBA!
(thanx to Arctus for the URL :)
May 26 - 17:07
Location: long island
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May 26 - 16:38
Location: Maryland,USA
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On a diffrent TLKoB note has anyone tried to buy the piano and vocal music book of TLKoB?
I ordered it March and was supposed to get it by the middle of May, it still has not come in.
I was told they were reediting it. I also heard talk of taking out the scean where Scar tries to suduce Nala. If they did it then they would have to take the song Maddness of King Scar out of the book.
Does anyone know if that part was taken out of TLKoB?
May 26 - 15:25
Location: N.Y.
E-mail: eagle1@taconic net
May 26 - 14:48
Bear Paw Productions
Location: Here and there
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org
Did "Beauty & The Beast: The Broadway Musical" come to your town on a touring show?
If the answer to that is "no", then I would say it's a pretty safe bet that TLKoB won't either... of course, I'm not a Disney official, but touring shows are usually very expensive. TLKoB would be even MORE expensive than your average show just based on the nature of the production. Don't know what I'm talking about? See it, and then you'll understand...
Hope that puts some issues to rest. :)
We are one...
Hakuna Matata
Arctus
May 26 - 14:02
Location: long island
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May 26 - 11:42
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May 26 - 10:45
Location: My Kitchen in my house!
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: ) And yes I am in a bad mood today incase u r wondering! Oh well ittle clear up!
So long!
May 26 - 09:33
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Man I'm I tired! Beerit, I'll say it although it's a bit late: HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Hope you can buy the book of 'Art of TLK' go check your local Disney store, they may have it or maybe they can order it for you?
What did I read?... mmmmm Kovu a gay? Nè, would be a little strange isn't it, if they're already selling kissing Kovu and Kiara plushie's. Ha, ha.
Oh, what about that guy in 'Hercules' you know, the informant of Zeus? The guy with the wings and the trumpet. Well.... wasn't he a bit wel... Oh he was a God right, so maybe this doesn't count?.....
Stop that Kovu-thing. I'm not interested in that.
Will somebody answer the Panter please??? about the Broadway musical of TLK. I wanna know too!!!! Will the musical come to Europe or not??????
-*PLEEEEEAAASSSSSEEE??*-
See you later!!!!
Dara
May 26 - 08:23
Location: TKL http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Stadium/1590/TKL.htm
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2 rumor mills to check in 1 site?! let's just make *this* rumor mill a general TLK mill (like it ALREADY is!!). oops, I talk like this is my site or something, sorry brian!
but its a nice thought.....
& about the mailing list, I was on it for about 2 months & it was HELL!!! 7 zillion messeges a day, & if u go on vacation or you're computer is sent for repair, when it comes back you're SWAMPED with messeges! & its not too interesting anyhow.... I'm sorry if I offended anyone that DOES like TLK-L but I just wanted to say that...
May 25 - 22:14
student
Location: Sydney Australia
E-mail: mina830@hotmail.com
If anyone ever wants to talk to someone who can talk about the lion king all the time email me, i can't wait.
thanks
lee
XXX
May 25 - 21:57
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May 25 - 20:35
Location: TLK chatroom
E-mail: sean@schoollink.net
Lets go ;)
We Are One
May 25 - 18:24
www.lionking.org
Location: Caltech
E-mail: btman@lionking.org
Brian
May 25 - 17:27
Location:
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see ya there!!
May 25 - 17:25
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And I too was excited about the SP merchandise but peeved that it's all sold out! Guess I'll have to keep checking back.
May 25 - 16:43
Location: Maryland, USA
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So I was wondering if anyone would be willing to make a room to post back and forth on ANY TLk topic. It seems like people want to talk about more then just SP rumors. Since no one is ever in the chat room it seems like a good idea to have a general TLK post.
Just a thought :)
May 25 - 16:34
Location:
E-mail: ALehman302@aol.com
May 25 - 16:26
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May 25 - 16:25
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Kara (Kiara)
May 25 - 16:15
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http://www3.etoys.com/shopping/etoys/html/dis0019.shtml
When you want to go on, subsitute the 19 with 20 and so on tho 25. I don't how to find it with out going directly to the website. I hope this helps.
Kara (Kiara)
May 25 - 14:04
Location: NY
E-mail: eagle1@taconic net
May 25 - 13:26
TLKfan
Location: Norway
E-mail:
I just wanted to thank you guys who helped me with finding 'we are one'.
Also, I think we should just ignore that 'kovu's a gay' thing.
They just want to mess up the rumor mill, so we write billions of angry mgs here, just as we did with the 'anne' thing...
We'll not give them what they want this time
Well, that's all folks!
Kris
May 25 - 12:35
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By the way what do you think Yolonda ment by "Big Bird (birDIE)" ? Just asking because Birdie is my friend ya know!! -- Belleau
May 25 - 10:07
Bear Paw Productions
Location: Getting Caught Up Again...
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org
In regards to incest in the TLK family, I'd say it's a pretty safe bargain that Disney (in its infinite wisdom) won't be testing its limits in that department anytime soon... they're still having trouble dealing with homosexuality in general. Heck, they cancelled "Ellen"... not that I have anything wrong with that. >:)
As far as Kovu being gay, not only is the idea preposterous, it's also a highly unlikely development. This is a CHILDREN'S movie that they're making... not an advocational movie for Disney's new gay-friendly policy. I just don't see it happening.
Awrighty then! I'll put away the soap box now...
We are one!!!
HAKUNA MATATA!!!
Arctus
May 25 - 09:03
student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahoo.com
and why cant anyone tell me about the lion King Broadway musical,, is it going outside the boundries of the us??? where can i find out if it is??,, Somebody Must Know. thanks
the Panther
May 25 - 08:19
Location: TKL
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from many sources. much of the info in my site is'nt even taken from this mill. I dont write things based on 1 thing some 1 guy said. but on something that has been said many times.
but I m going to update the site & add a messege saying that all the info is taken from this & this (I will put links) & say that it is not exclusive to this site, ok?
Yvonne Garrett, where did u hear this?! sorry if it offends u, but it sounds totaly un-real! & stop talking to her like that!
I'm having this whole anne thing again!!!
we are one
May 25 - 02:49
Location:
E-mail: neema@lionking.org.
Woohoo!
This is soooo cool that they're - the people at etoys.com - are selling these. I swear, one day I'll bust into their company and steal these toys if I want to. Anyone to come? ;) Anyhoo, it's just so cool. No more information, no more comments..
Ciao!
Neema.
May 25 - 00:26
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To go on, subsitute the 19 for 20 and so on. I don't think you find them by just browsing. Well that's all.....
Kara
(Kiara)
May 24 - 18:41
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May 24 - 16:55
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Don't be dissen my sister!!!!Kovou could actually be a queer.so...........SHUT YOUR******MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 24 - 15:37
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May 24 - 15:24
kid & Yvonne skeptic
Location: Texas
E-mail: john_broussard@prolink.net
May 24 - 15:11
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It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard!
Kris
May 24 - 14:58
YWCA
Location: 475 Saddle Drive
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May 24 - 14:55
Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk
Beerit, I don't know about SP, but this rumour mill is getting incestuous :-) Aardwulf is just repeating, Chinese whisper fashion, the rumours from this mill - not that there's anything wrong in that as such. I was the one who suggested that Jennifer Lien was possibly the voice on Vitani, but the 'possibly' bit seems to have been lost somewhere along the line. I also pointed out the 'Nunka' name confusion. Both of these are not facts but hypotheses, in other words possibilities only and await confirmation by reliable sources.
So, this info is not really *new* at all, but a distillation of what I, and others have said. I point this out, because this is the nature of the way in which rumours can become myths - enshrined forever in the collective memory when in fact the truth is somewhat different. In other words Jennifer Lien and Andy Dick MAY be the voices of Vitani and Nuka, but they also may well not be....
Bye,
Chris.
May 24 - 14:46
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May 24 - 14:02
Location: TKL
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Nuka= stink
*AND* I found other words similier to Nuka are smell related.
we are one
p.s. http://beerit-roni:beapcp@www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Stadium/1590/Kovuyhea.gif
May 24 - 12:47
Location: TKL
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this was taken from www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1888/busa.html
which is a great source but Aardwulf, your merchandise links r OUT!
WELL, HERE WE GO!
NUKA - Male lion. Is allegedly 'pretty crazy' and thinks he can kill Simba himself. Originally it was
believed that he was one of Zira's sidekicks, filling a role similar to that of the hyenas in the original
movie, but in fact Nuka may be a friend of Kovu's. Some older sources reported that a lion called
'Nunka', voiced by Andy Dick of "NewsRadio", was to be Scar's conniving offspring (in place of
Kovu); this rumour has been proven false.
VITANI - Female lion cub, described as being very 'sly'. Recent information suggests that she,
Nuka, and Kovu are cubs from the same pride (and possibly the same father...). She is to be voiced
by Jennifer Lien.
we are one
p.s. I know spanish too (oh, I'm sooooo clever!)
& Nunka means "never" in spanish.
May 24 - 12:16
Location: Ann Arbor
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org
Plus, which Shakespeare play is Timon in? And I'm kind of curious about this idea of Shakespeare characters... like which one is in Hercules, and I wonder which will be in SP???
May 24 - 09:53
Location: TKL
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did this do it?
May 24 - 08:38
Location: TKL
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& I'm sorry but there arent any scans for TLK in that page. only from misc disney stuff for all I could tell.
the Panther, I dont know why u dislike religions so much, but I have to agree. I would have died if I would be brought up in a religious family.
I respect them & all, but they dont seem to respect us.
trust me, the Catholic church is'nt the only one to give us trouble! jewish people do it too! wait, wait!!!! I'm dont hate jews!!! I M jewish so get me stright! I dont know how u say very religious jew people so that's what I ment!
they give us a hard time too..... ); just a little comment. I realy dont want to start n argument here (this IS a TLK site after all)
I just said what needs to be said on my side.
Dara, I dont think anyone will be mad at u, & I agree to all u said. (I aint gonna write it all down again!!!!)
The Art of The Lion King sounds like the coolest book! If I see it, trust me, I'll buy it. now that yesterday was my birthday (hint, hint) I have lot o' money to buy it!
Aardwulf, sorry for not writig where I got the info from, I wanted to but I couldnt find the page... ); & quite a great page, by the way!!
the Panther, "u americans" does'nt apply to me thank-u-vary-much!
& I think everything u say or comes out very wrong, or u realy think that way & in that case I have to diagree. for older relitives its ok?! its never ok, & I dont mean in the condoms way, I mean morraly, if you're realy in love I guess its KINDA ok, but its not too normal in my opinion.... I dont know, u figure it out, I'm gonna eat me some cake & come back in a few minutes....
I had comes to the conclusion that the 2 most cutes creatures that were ever created in disney studios R: (drums)........ baby simba & baby herk! I watched hercules yesterday, (in hebrew, what a disaster!) & baby hercules is sooooo cute! but baby simba is cuter!
lioness, no one goes there! ever!!! I once wrote brian about that, thought theres something wrong with my pc, but he told me no one goes there. I went there at first but I saw no ones out there so... maybe we should all go there together & then we can talk online & faster & comment on eachothere's messeges quickly. sounds cooler, uh?
we are one
May 24 - 06:31
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Among the suggestive quotes: "Hyenas are odd-looking animals that would never make it as characters in a Disney movie" (or something very close to that)
May 23 - 23:48
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May 23 - 18:14
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-lioness
May 23 - 13:58
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Anyways, anybody who's reading this at 4:40 EDT, I'm connected and I'll be back at 9:00. Hope to see somebody there!:)
May 23 - 13:41
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I was just thinking about that too, Just Another LK Fan....why can't we talk in that TLK chatroom sometime, Brian? How come no one goes in there?
cya!
May 23 - 13:34
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Thanks!
May 23 - 12:20
Location:
E-mail: laymonw@erols.com
Anyways, I heard from another rumor mill that there's gonna be a SP or LK cartoon show. Any word on that?I think that a cartoon would be going too far. Just my opinion.
May 23 - 10:23
Location: Ann Arbor
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org
I agree with Elyse. It's not a question of whether or not kids understand because some have gotten in trouble from what they see in cartoons by not realizing the difference between fantasy and reality (remember that whole Beavis & Butthaed thing with the fire?)
Also I realize that it occurs in lion relationships... my site is on lion behavior and I realize that it is possible for related lions to mate, especially if it's a rouge female traveling wiht her young brothers. But like fantasy and reality, some people can;t tell the difference between lion and human behavior. Like Elyse said, it up to those who do understand to teach responsibility. I'm 22, and I know there are even people my age and older who can't tell the difference as well as some younger that can. I think Disney just didn't want to take the chance.
One last thing, about that Shakespeare thing... A friend of mine said the name Iago was from a play Othello. That's Shakespeare too isn't it? (sorry, I'm more science than literature oriented.)
May 23 - 10:23
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The small version was $20 and the large version about $60 at the time I bought it (3 years ago). But of course it's cheaper in America (dang, I paid too much!!).
Shenzi, I would like to read that 'Mouse under glass' book, but alas, I can't find it.
That's all for today... Hopefully you'll have more news.
Bye!
Dara
May 23 - 10:15
Location: At home, on my computer.
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May 22 - 20:55
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May 22 - 19:03
I'm a loser baby...
Location: home
E-mail: sean@schoollink.net
Oh well, enjoy....
May 22 - 18:04
Location: long island
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May 22 - 17:48
Location:
E-mail: neema@lionking.org.
They can be found at
Neema
May 22 - 16:40
Location: im on the computer....no duh
E-mail:
Thanx
Janet
May 22 - 16:26
Location:
E-mail: bankster@msn.com
That COULD have happened,...but it DIDN'T.
bye
May 22 - 16:15
Location: sac,ca
E-mail: elysemize@lycosmail.com
about anything the more ok it becomes. Everything starts @ home, but not every child has a loving environment to call home. So, once again I must emphasize society's RESPONSIBILITY in being RESPONSIBLE.
have a nice weekend.
~elyse
May 22 - 15:54
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May 22 - 15:52
Location: sacramento, ca
E-mail: elysemize@lycosmail.com
On to another subject...The Art of the Lion King is currently being auctioned @ www.ebay.com. The current bid price for it is $25. I'm off work now & going home to enjoy a three day weekend.
See ya'.
~elyse
May 22 - 15:38
student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_Panther80@yahoo.com
and in the matter of simbas pride and the lion king,, it was a matter of cusins, i think,, but not closer,, if there was any at all,, and finally,, i agree with dara on the subject of you americans.
the Panther
May 22 - 15:38
Location: Pacific NW
E-mail: aardwulf@geocities.com
First, to get the unpleasant off-topic stuff outta the way: Panther, incest is what's known as a universal taboo--it's frowned upon in pretty much every culture, no matter the religion. And pleeeeze let's not start a debate about religion; those can get *very* ugly.
Back on topic (sort of): Beerit, the info you gathered regarding Nuka and Vitani was from my site, www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1888/busa.html, which has since been updated if you'd like to take a look.
And finally, to Blue Lion: You have great taste in movies. I'm an Oliver/Fox & the Hound addict myself. ;)
Okay, sorry to ramble off-topic so much. You may continue with your lives...
Aardy
May 22 - 15:28
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There is a good some good reasons for prohiditing inceast. One being that if the genes are close enought and get mixed enought, then you get offspring who have genetic mutations ( not enought or too many limbs for example).
On a much better note The Art of The Lion King (large edition) could be bought from Walden books for $50.00. I bought it there years ago.
You also might still be able to get Walden to order it for you. My freind got it that way about 3 months ago.
Just a question are the SP plushies going to be sold in department store and if so which ones?
May 22 - 13:13
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Panther, I even don't have to think about your words... I simply agree.
Maybe it's just you and me, living in Europe who thinks different about this sort of well.... topics.
What's very shocking in, for example,the Jerry Springer show (like sex, lesbians, homosexuals, prostitutes etc.) it's not shocking in Europe.
I simply will shake my head at the sight of all those well... forgive me to say it... rather hysterical shocked Americans when they will hear there friend is a stripper or a lesbian! I don't mean to offend anybody!! Please understand me, It's the culture that's different. (You aren't mad at me now I said this, I hope??)
I just feel pity when some people are accusing Disney when there is a topic in an animated picture that people are seeing wrong, understand wrong are just because they are seeing things that are not there. If it seems Disney has made a perfect neat movie, those people are searching and looking for some reason to accuse Disney. Like the hyena's who had everything to do with racism (and the second world war) gimme a brake! And the lionesses who where suppressed by the males.
People (feminists) saw in the movie a female- unfriendly society. People DID say this, it was in the news papers. Look, if you're searching long enough, you'll find bad things. But it's a movie also made for children! Don't think too diffucult, that's wrong.
Sorry if I offend some people, It's just what I think (I AM a neat girl you know). You don't need to take my word. Thank you for reading this and don't be mad, please??....
Bye!
Dara
May 22 - 11:33
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(in the 'Storybook Store' to be exactly). They had a big book about the art of TLK and a pocket book, which I bought. It has almost exactly the same pictures as in the big book, only smaller.
Brian has indeed a lot of pictures comming directly from this book. I haven't seen more pictures yet.
The book is called: 'The art of TLK' and it has text by Christopher Finch and a beautiful foreword by James Earl Jones. The book tells the story of TLK illustrated with sketches and original drawings from the movie. If you were thinking of buying the book I recommend the pocket version.
It's quit expensive. I bought the pocket for about $40 at that time. The big book is about $150 I believe. But then, Disney theme parks are extremely expencive and I was paying in strange money. I don't live in France.
Hakuna Matata!
Dara
May 22 - 11:04
Location: sacramento, ca
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~elyse
May 22 - 10:58
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well thats my point of wiew, just needed to get it out,,
alot of people might not agree with me, to them i tell, take a minute, or preferably, an hour to think about it, then, i will discuss it with you.
the Panther
May 22 - 10:40
Location: sacramento, ca.
E-mail: elysemize@lycosmail.com
I wish I had something more to add to the Simba's Pride thing, but I don't. Sorry.
I'm not sure how many of you actually collect TLK merchandise, but there's an on-line auction @ www.ebay.com that has a ton of TLK stuff. A lot of which I have never seen. I think one of the coolest things I saw was Russian TLK nesting dolls. You know the wooden dolls that stack inside themselves. Anyway, if you're a collector or just like to "window shop" you might want to check it out. Go into search , search title for Lion King or whichever charachter is your favorite and it should bring up quite a few items. It's updated everyday, so there is always something new.
See ya'
~elyse
May 22 - 09:02
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Brian
May 22 - 08:15
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NUKA - One of Zira's sidekicks. Is allegedly 'pretty crazy' and thinks he can kill Simba himself. His species and the actor portraying him are presently unknown.
VITANI - A female lion cub. Apparantly model sheets exist for this character, but which pride she belongs to is unknown. Perhaps she's one of Simba's cubs?...
we are one
May 22 - 06:23
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I never heard of that one? is it like "The art of Disney" only about TLK?
where can I get info about it? (what I realy mean is, where can I get scans of the whole book instead of buing it...) (;
Hong Kong Phooey, the other "lion" is a lioness! look frame by frame & on the far left there's a lioness roaring & scaring the birds. that's why they're flying away.
& that bird flying in front of the camers is NOT zazu!
zazu is blue, my friend, he's blue!! & that birs is brown. & its morning in the shot so u can see the color clearly.
speaking of that scene. & dont get it. I think its kovu grown up couse it's black around his eyes too (& the black mane thing), but he looks confused? m I crazy or did anyone else saw he has this "what the...?" look on his face?!
look frame by frame & his face get more & more sharp & clear, then u will see he's very shockd for some reason.
shenzi, scar's MAD!!!! no one blamed him for the drought, but for being a lousy king! did u read "touch of the nisei"?! its written like it isnt scar's foult too. that fan fic makes scar look like a poor saint, maddened by the injustice in his life,
but I dont think that's what disney meant when they mede TLK. (;
we are one
p.s. isnt nuka the crazed character that wants to kill simba?
May 22 - 06:17
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As for Shenzi's comment about Scar, no one accused him of causing the drought. Disney was using that to symbolize how he was negligent and how he let the Pride lands go to waste.
May 22 - 05:50
Location: Ann Arbor
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Personally, I think movies like Hunchback are goos for animation. Begining with TLK animation has finally been raised to an art form people my age can enjoy and not just a deversion for little kids. I'm sorry, but I only liked three 'pre-TLK' movies, the Fox and The Hound, Jungle Book, and Oliver and Company. All the rest seemed so tied into fairy tales ande geared towards kids.
PS.. I also like Hercules and Hunchback and think Mulan is going to be great.... sorry, can't put in a good word for Pocahontas but who can?
Back to Simba's Pride, anyone have any titles for other songs besides We Are One? (Sorry if this has been asked before)
May 21 - 19:59
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May 21 - 17:10
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May 21 - 16:58
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May 21 - 16:23
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Ducky, I don't know who you were agreeing with when you said "I agree! Bugs is flamming." I don't think Bugs Bunny is same-sex oriented, he is just a cross-dresser. I was using Bugs as an example of how insane I thought the idea was that one of the Aristocats (the hippie wearing beads)was more than just a friend to his male companions.
Off this subject, finally:
When was there swearing in "The Little Mermaid?" I have seen this film many times and have never heard anything objectionable.
May 21 - 11:54
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www.lionking.org/~talami/SPscene2.jpg
The lion on the right has indeed darker hair, so maybe it's Simba standing in the shadow and the roaring lioness in Nala or it's Kovu and Kiara or something like that. Have no idea...
Bye!
Dara
May 21 - 11:36
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Where are people seeing a second lion on this cliff?
Sorry to bring up this subject again.
May 21 - 10:58
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Anyway. Again I apologize. It was just that everybody was going on about how Disney recently has been getting a little more "iffy" material, and I just wanted to illustrate that it's been going on for awhile. I guess I should have mentioned that.
Sorry for the disruption. Forgive me.
May 21 - 08:48
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Location: Indiana
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I liked that book, "The art of the lion king" It was way cool!
I hope "Simba's Pride is a better movie than some of the films are.
May 21 - 06:37
Location: cleveland
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Timon's name is a Shakespearian tie-in.
If you think long enough, almost every Disney flim has one.
Just my opinion
-caji
May 21 - 04:09
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well, I found a pic by him in http://www.lionking.org/~ryan/lionking/concept/beauty/
which is in "Ryan's Lion", a great TLK page, if u never heard of it before.
the pic is in http://www.lionking.org/~ryan/lionking/concept/beauty/wfall.jpg to be exact!
Brien, I cant find the (#%&*#$@) scans!
where are they?!
May 21 - 03:12
Location: TKL
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by the way. what about your server?! some of my BEST animations are in that
zip!!! do u have one?!
check it out! it has many cool files in the sound archive & the songs Alicia Miller
mentioned too!
we are one (sorta....)
May 21 - 03:01
Location: Rialto
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com
Well, I got more Lion King info. My animation teacher had a friend tape a making of the Lion King laserdisc. It is different than all the others since it had animation from back when Lion King was "King of the Jungle." It had Timon's version of "Hakuna Matata" a better ver. of "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" as well as "Warthog Rhapsody." It also had script from the beginning production before they had "Circle of Life" in the beginning. I also heard "Circle of Life" and "Hakuna Matata" sung in different languages. My animation teacher knows the background supervisor too. The name of the Lion King's background supervisor is Doug Ball. I have more connections too. Another Lion King video will be released and it ain't Simba's Pride. It's called Simba (That's the working title so far) and it has songs from Lebo M's Deeper Meaning and Rythm of the Pride Lands.
Lebo M did Simba's pride by the way. Did you hear him in the Simba's Pride song? I tell you, Lebo M is the King of the Lion King no matter what! I even have a review on Lion King music coming up (hopefully) in this web ring. It shows what the music would be like without Lebo M.
Alicia :)
May 20 - 23:59
Location: Ann Arbor
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org
Earlier (WAY earlier) I read a post that more Simba's Pride merchandise is coming out in June, anyone have confirmation on that??
One last thing, (forgivr me if I interpreted the post wrong) but Mulan dosen't have a lesbian relationship, everyone think's she's male because she's posing as a male so she can anter the Chinese army in her aging father's place.
May 20 - 20:43
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May 20 - 19:37
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Location: Brasil
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"There's a black shadow above you..."
May 20 - 18:23
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Its called:
'The Art of the Lion King'
By; Christopher Finch
Hyperion Books
I have it, so I know. Bye!!
-=Zinou=-
May 20 - 17:31
Just being a Husky
Location: Close to The Mall of America
E-mail: steele@thequest.net
Go search eToys, SP plushie pictures are starting to come out along with prices now! :) The only sad thing is that they are showing as out of stock.
May 20 - 16:57
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I was /just/ wondering one thing,
And, IF anyone else noticed this:
>Kovu is a dark color like Scar. Right. Duh.
> The beanie toy on the far right is a golden-brown color like kid Simba...perjaps he/she is a male?
>Kiara and the beanie on the far left in teh Kovu set are the peach color, like Kid nala, like a female.
Disney is famous (infamous?) for keeping their color keys. Do you think that Nuka (Vitani?) may be a male?
Just wondering...=o
Bye!
-=Zinou=-
May 20 - 15:02
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May 20 - 14:57
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May 20 - 14:42
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I saw the pluchies and they were great!! Maybe Kovu, Nuka and Vitani are all of the same pride because the are sitting together. Maybe the are friends and maybe Vitani is the friend of Nuka. Nuka is obvious a light coloured male. And Vitani is darker than Kiara. (Timon and Pumbaa looked all together awful!)
Oh, about 'The Black Cauldron' here in Europe they already released the movie, but no sign or whatever of SP. Maybe when they will release it in the US, you will see some info... Arctus, I never got a chance to see it in the theaters for I also was pretty young that days. Due to my best friend who deleyed the dated of seeing every time it was too late. The Black Cauldron has not been in theatres for so long, because it's not one of Disney's better movies and it was kinda scary for young kids that days. I always felt a pitty for not seeing the Black Cauldron that days... I felt it must be a wonderful story!!! But believe me Arctus... now I did see the movie and it was rather bad. I was really disappointed! I expected it would be much better!! It's a good plot, but the story-line is weak and dis-organized. Taran the 'pigboy' who is supposed to watch over Hen-Wen the clean-sighted pig meets some people. They were all prisoners of the horned king (who is indeed rather scary!). Now they need to escape the king and take care he will not find the black cauldron. Well, that's it. Once more, I was very disappointed, but maybe you'll like it...
Sorry, just some info for Arctus about the Black cauldron... now let's go back on SP!!
I'm far more interested in this movie!!! Like I said, no previeuw or whatever on The Black couldron of SP. Sorry...
See ya!!
Dara
May 20 - 14:14
Just being a Husky
Location: Close to The Mall of America
E-mail: steele@thequest.net
To clarify a bit for Beerit:
There are two sets of beanies....
1. Timon, Pumbaa, Kiara
2. Nuka, Kovu, Vitani
Not only this but there also seems to be two different versions (possibly production runs) of each of these sets. So it would seem right now that we actually have 4 sets of 3 to try to find. Hope this clears that up a bit. :)
May 20 - 13:52
www.lionking.org
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See Ryan McGinnis' page for a lot of other cool scans from that book.
Brian
May 20 - 12:53
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u all one day! by the way, if u wanted to see the pic before, but it took too long to load so u quited, then dont worry. tomorrow I will make it smaller ok?
since I m going to have my birthday very soon I though I'll ask for the SP toys. but Steele said there were 2 differant sets?! I know there one of kiara, pumba & timon, & another of kovu & some other 2 characters. do u mean a WHOLE differant set!? cool, I never collected TLK stuff. it didnt interest me at all, but for some reason I want to have these SP stuff!!!!
kris, if u go to the SP section of this site u will find what you're looking for!
bye for now!
we are one
May 20 - 12:48
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And so what if he dances along with other males? Does that make a cartoon cat gay? Do you also think that Bugs Bunny is a homosexual? Come on!
May 20 - 11:39
TLKfan!! and soon SPfan!!
Location: Norway
E-mail: toreot@hellerud.vgs.no
Does anybody got the song "We are one", the whole thing on computer?
If you do, pleeeeeeaaaase send it to me!!
I've heard some of it and I LOVE it. I'd like to hear the whole song.
My e-mail address is up there, I'd be very grateful if you would send it....
Busa Simba, and Hakuna Matata!!
Kris, a TLKfan that (really) wants to hear "We are one"
May 20 - 11:35
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May 20 - 11:29
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By the way, we already know that there WON'T be an incestuous relationship in "Simba's Pride" because Michael Eisner nixed the idea a long time ago. We already covered this! It was reported in Variety! Eisner was troubled by "the indisputable fact that Scar was Simba's Uncle." The Variety article went on to say that "even though we're talking about cartoon lions, the studio would be making a movie that involved an incestuous relationship. They have been scrambling to overcome that slight dilemma while keeping the story intact."
There you have it! And some of you out there must think kids are pretty stupid! Of course they could figure out which lions are related! And while this is "just a cartoon" and the characters are "just animals", the movies portray them in very human ways. But Eisner said "NO" to an incestual relationship, so there won't be one!!
May 20 - 11:02
www.lionking.org
Location: Caltech
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Look at the picture again. It says "1992" on the identification label, right next to "King of the Jungle". That was the original working title for TLK.
Brian
May 20 - 10:35
Just being a Husky
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May 20 - 08:45
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May 20 - 04:23
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well, it has some stuff I hav'nt finished but its still cool! bookmark it & come back couse I update it all the time!
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Stadium/1590/TKL.htm
enjoy the SP sound archive with 12 sounds, 10 SP pics, but not from the preview!!!!!
& the exclusive SP animated gifs!!!!
a-ha!!!!
by the way, I scanned a pic from a book of a VERY early sketch of young simba, its so cute, but it doesnt look like simba at all!!!
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Stadium/1590/simbamodel.gif
May 20 - 01:20
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Shanobi, I think the lionesses are from scar's pride, but I dont thimk u can know until the movie comes out...
maybe they were actually nala & sarafina returning from a stroll! u cant know!
I dont thimk that the lioness that roars in the flock of birds is nala & that the other lion is simba. first of all,
the lion has var dark hair, & there's lots of light suggesting it is morning, so the color of the mane should be vary clear.
second, if nala & simba would have looked for kiara then the camera would'nt go after the birds. it is not somathing disney would have done.
the birds have nothing to do with searching for kiara! I think it was kind of a "set free" thing with the birds & stuff....
There WILL be 6 original songs on SP so brace yourelves!
I have a q (question). are ALL the lionesses in scar's pride evil?! (except kovu of course)
I heard that zira is, but what about the rest? r they in it all together? & who invited them to pride rock anyway?!
simba?! how did he find out about them anyway?! there are a lot of un clear matters about scar's pride, uh?
Rachel McWhirter, how do u know so much? I heard all of these things u said in some site before, did u copy it from them, or is it your site?
mmmmm...... I think mufasa will have a part in SP couse it says mufasa's name in the character lists.
I dont know, maybe people just think so couse mufasa was in the preview. but it looked more like a "miror" shot of mufasa's ghost from TLK!
I dont think disney will push it too much with this ghost thing! they know that if they will, the last apearence will loose its ,istical touch.
maybe he'll be a flashback! but probebly not a flashback of an excisting shot. then u will see the differences in the animation. I guess they will make a "new" flashback. a moment in simba's life we didnt get to see the last time.
Hong Kong Phooey, maybe over-protctive parents might care about incestual relationship, but if your watching a movie with kids, u see it through their eyes. not yours. when I sit to see a 2 hours "micky mouse" tape with my 2 5 year old cousins, I dont start looking for anatomicly in-correct
thing in micky that might "confuse" my cousins!!! I just watch the tape!! I understand why disney is confused in thing matter, but they have to think about the best interest of the movie they're making!
this TLK3 thing bites! aladin was realy cool, but disney went over the top. I speak for myself, of course. disney got money, so why shoulf they care,
but if u love a movie u WANT to stay in the dark somethimes. if they keep making more & more TLK's then ALL the movies...... they will loose they're uniqueness & then what will we have left? that's what I think anyway...
would someone please tell me what's Mulan?
Dara, that's JUST what disney want from us! not to know anything! couse:
a. that way we will want to buy the tape couse we wount know a damn thing about it!
& b. that way they can change the plot as much as they want. they REALY got screwed with kovu!
now that we know how he looks like (Scar #2) they have to figure out a way to explain how he IS'NT scar's son but looks just like him. so they did'nt want to show much.
by the way, & this is a comical comment so dont yell at me!
SP is chauvinist! Simba, the male, as a cub had great expectations & ambitions of himself, to be king & rule,
& Kiara, the female, doesnt have any ambitions! oh, the horror!!!!!!! ((;
listen to this, I have a friend that told me she would like to see a movie with JUST good guys.
so I told her: "but they'll all die in the end, right?" god, what a stupid idea!!!!! I tell u this couse she said
it while we were talking about SP so I rememberd just now.... imagine TLK without scar or the hyenas, or SP without Zira or scar's pride?!
shenzi, reading you're messege made me laugh!!! that breaking into singing thing is cool if u think about is....
I have a question that will sound like the most stupid question in the world right now!
but, do many people like TLK?!?!?!?! in my country it was'nt successful AT ALL!
so I have no IDEA!!!! I always thought I was weird for liking it or something! tell me!
Michelle Ricketts, the things you've wrote r stuff we know for AGES!! u should come here more often!!!
sarabi would'nt even BE in SP! so read the previous messeges soon!
a bean bag toys with nuka?! WHAT IS nuka anyway? his speciel I mean?
Shanobi , u dont see simba eat too much in the movies, not like tiomon & pumba that ate tons of bugs.
but I guess he will hunt & stuff. why should'nt he? the only reason he ate bugs with T&P was couse there was nothing else!!!!
p.s. brien. I know how to use FTP, so do u have any server I can sent my "zip2" file to u finally?!?!?!?!?!?
May 20 - 01:09
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May 19 - 23:23
oh I won't tell
Location: home
E-mail: sean@schoollink.net
BTW, I've never been impressed with the Mattel plushes. The Applause characters always look better :) Does anyone know if Applause will do any Simba's Pride stuff.
Thanks,
Busa Simba and Kiara
May 19 - 20:40
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Brian
May 19 - 19:50
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P.S.I ain't afraid of you!!!!!!!
May 19 - 19:44
Bear Paw Productions
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Hakuna Matata!
Arctus
May 19 - 19:11
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on May 10 about the sequel.
May 19 - 19:09
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I think that Disney already has revised the script, and Kovu is not Scar's son. It's too controversial, and with the recent controversies Disney has had on the subject, they wouldn't want to do work their way into a deeper whole. Besides, I think a lot of people think that Kovu not being Scar's son is an old rumor when it really is a new rumor. The site I first saw about Simba's Pride said that Kovu was going to be Scar's son, but it also said the movie might come out in the summer of 1997. How long has that been since it was updated? I think that Kovu's parents will appear, and the father will not be Scar. If you disagree, fine, but that's what I think.
May 19 - 18:18
Discovery Zone
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George tripp
May 19 - 18:00
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CAN WE WAIT 5 MONTHS?
HECK NO!!
Jeff
May 19 - 17:47
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hi, i saw those toys and i'm already buying them!
but, let me get this strait,
Vitina is just a lioness, and we don't know if shes good or not,
kovu is the lion that falls in love with kiara, and possibly is scar's son
but who is Nuka? one site said that she was a villan and wanted to kill simba. please clear meup, thanx.
ps. do you think that the bean bag dolls will have character descriptions on them? perhaps it will clear the whole Kovu thing
pss
do you think that simba will still eat bugs? i know it really doesn't affect the story, but i was just wondering. ( that is one of the reasons i didn't like Timon and Pumbaa, they made Simba eat strange food)
Thanx a bunch
Mufasa's lost son and Simba's twin brother,
Shanobi
May 19 - 17:24
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May 19 - 16:22
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See ya' later.
May 19 - 15:04
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May 19 - 14:34
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It DOES NOT matter if the kids understand the family tree connection. These are the same people who complained about the sex in the sky message in TLK. No kid is going to sit there and look for things like that.
Disney has had problems like this before.
In the Gargoyles animated cartoon they had a human and a gargoyle having a " relationship" (wink wink nod nod). They had a about a hundred ways they made this ovious to adults and not to kids.
I think they are doing the same thing with the SP.
By making Kovu look like Scar, but saying he is not Scar's son is just another way of avioding problems. The fans who are really into TLK will know he is and the watch dog groups will be passified.
By the way the same groups who would object to the Scar's son buisness threatened Disney about Gargoyles many times.
Just a thought
May 19 - 14:24
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I read about someone posting about Broderick being on Rosie's show Thursday. He'll also be on the Tonight Show tonight I think. Anyway, this ISN'T about Lion King. Broderick stars in "Godzilla" slated to be released tomorrow, in his biggest role since, you got it, Simba in Lion King. But don't be suprised if he talks about the sequel. Usually when a cast member returns, they liked how the production went for the first movie and are very happy to do a sequel. Broderick seems like an overall good guy, so this doesn't suprise me. Listening to "We Are One" a lot, I noticed that Broderick does indeed sing as well. Probally his first singing role since "Shake It Up Baby" in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Now that was comedy!
Also, in case you haven't heard, Disney is releasing a ton of movies to video in 1998. There are 5, which I know 4 of, the Pocahontas and Lion King sequels, some movie all about Mickey, and the 10th animated classic, Melody Time (commemerating it's 50th anniversary). The 3 I listed all are expected to come out BEFORE Simba's Pride. Trailor mania! Well, that's the good news.
Jeff
May 19 - 13:22
Location: South Bend, In.
E-mail: snicker454@aol.com
1.) Sarabi might die!!
2.) Zazu might have a g/f
I am certain of this though. It's about simba and nala's daughter who falls in love with Scar's son
and simba has to acknowledge the fact that scar's son may become the next king of pride rock.
-shells
P.S. If you get anything about merchandise, please e-mail me. or about the soundtrack...i really want that.
May 19 - 12:48
Student
Location: Paradise NFLD
E-mail: coryhicks@geocities.com
Does anyone know of a place where I could get a TLK sound file that would be good for a new mail notification?
Cory
May 19 - 12:45
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I'm not sure where you should start looking for these guys, but keep an eye out:)
May 19 - 11:28
Location: Ann Arbor
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org
IMHO : Anastasia was kind of cute, but no competition for Disney(Prince of Egypt may come close,but won't top); Quest for Camelot just looks plain stupid; and Mulan look great (not as much as TLK but still great).
one post said characters were confirmed by mercahndise.. any more info on merchandise??
May 18 - 22:09
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May 18 - 16:03
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May 18 - 15:18
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May 18 - 15:17
Student
Location: Charlotte
E-mail: rrvrjeff@aol.com
I think that Kiara (that's her name right? I found out all this info yesterday and today) will follow a path much different from Simba, sorta creating a conflict between father and daughter. That maybe causes her to like a different type of lion, a.k.a Kovu. The first 30 minutes of the movie may have the relationship a secret until Simba finds out with the help of Zazu and his girlfriend, which I see as a comical subplot, not a bad thing. The end of the movie? Let's not try to predict that. What if somebody's right, then the movie is ruined! Let's just stick to the basics.
I was worried about the incest thing at first, but I don't think they'll refer to Kovu very much as Scar's son. Besides, let's try to think of this in "real world" terms. They're lions. Not humans like us. Now, again, I could be completely wrong since I know about a tenth as much about the sequel as all of you (all I saw was the sequel and 2 preview sites) so I'm not trying to get anyone angry. And I guarantee that "Mulan" will give us some new previews when it comes out, a month from tomorrow! So, let's calm down a little, and enjoy the sequel to an animated masterpiece.
And Kovu DOES look cool.
Jeff
May 18 - 15:10
Location: Ngorongoro Crater
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-->Listen up!
>>> YOU GUYS ARE REPEATING THINGS <<<<
I've seen this cast 'list' about 3 times in the mill...
>Read and heed before you post<
I have read the stuff, and I only post what I dont see already.
Liiiiiike, THIS! :
Does anyone not share the view that merchandise will be released 1-2 months b4 the actual movie is? Like, on one post I read a long long time ago, one person said that McDonalds was gunna do Happy meal toys about SP.
See?
Pretty cool...something different.
And about Timon&Pumbaa-series stuff?
Dont argue about it....its not even worthy of it. ;)
Bye!
(BTW, how do you do the fonts, the BOLDs, and the italic words? I'na know!! Please?)
-=Zinou=-
May 18 - 14:37
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I have a bunch of questions:
Who is Vitina? I have heard of all the other characters but this one, please answer me.
Next, this question hasn't been brought up, and it really has nothing to do with the plot, but, do you think Simba will keep eating bugs or will he back to meat???????
Next, Chris, I Seriously doubt your Entire"theory" about Kovu and Kiara running away, and that is Kovu and Kiara in the back, you can see Kovu's black mane. They may run off for a while, but that is not going to be the main plot.
And finally,
does anyone have VERIFIED information on the presale?????
Thankyou
May 18 - 13:46
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Nobody will know untill the video appears!! I mean, what have we actually seen of Kovu? Nothing! It's even not for sure if it's really him standing at the birds-scene. What do we REALLY know about SP? Nothing! (a that's a pity!) We even didn't see Zira... I mean, will she really be the villainess? As long as Disney didn't show her, they can change the plot over and over again. What's for real know are the little pieces of film we (you) saw on ABC.
(Actually.... I do hope it's Scar's son... O.k. let's cut it out, ha, ha! and let's NOT hope Zazu has a girlfriend!!! Yeach, that would be so weird!)
Bye, Dara
May 18 - 13:42
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About the TLK 3 rumor, I think that's a good possibility, after all they made three Aladin and B&TB movies. I also heard some rumor somewhere (I don't know if it's been proven wrong or not) that there's going to be a 4th Aladin staring the Genie. I forgot where or when I heard that, so it may be wrong.
Anyway, if SP is half as popular as TLK, why not? No other animation studio has ever come close to the success of TLK. I don't think even Dreamworks will. Disney's also got a big cult following among us TLK fans (like Trekkies and MSTies) I for one hope it's true.
One last thing, I too would like any info on Zira or Vitani (and Nuka as well) plus, is there going to be a Mulan preview similar to the one they had for Hunchback and Hercules? If so they might show a AP prieview there.. they had a Flubber preview on the Hercules one.
Later all!
May 18 - 13:22
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http://www.crosswinds.net/columbia-mo/~wdisney/Future/SimbaPride.htm.
I hope that this one works.
Sorry for the inconvenience! The school computers are really weird sometimes.
Later!
~Netanya~
May 18 - 11:30
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Little kids might not care if "Simba's Pride" has an incestual relationship, but their parents sure might!!
May 18 - 11:17
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Bye All!
May 18 - 09:09
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That's it. bye.
May 17 - 21:53
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Location: Hawaii
E-mail: ziebarth-christian@byuh.edu
1. People often will not give sequels a chance. They will automatically discount them as inferior to the original movie. The truth is that sometimes sequels live up to the originals and sometimes they don't.
2. However, people that like a movie will still often like to see a continuation of the story they like so much. Once they have memorized every line of the original, they want to see something more.
3. Disney found a way to satisfy these two contradictory views by coming up with (or doing a big marketing push for) the direct-to-video format. That way, its not like they're saying that the sequel is even trying to be as good as the first (although it might be); it exists in its own separate realm for those to enjoy who want to.
Another thing is, Disney has never released a sequel on the big screen for any of its animated classics. They apparently want to keep each one as fresh as possible.
Anyone else have any affirmative, negatory, or modifying views on my theory?
All said, I wouldn't mind seeing SP on the big screen myself, and will be going to see TLK when its re-released on the big screen in maybe 2001 or 2002. And . . . dare I say it here? . . . let's all go see 'Mulan' next month while we're waiting.
Christian :-)
May 17 - 21:45
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Eh.
Neema.
May 17 - 18:39
Simba's Pride Info Snooper
Location: Baytown,Tx.
E-mail: TikiKoyote@AOL.com
OLD Release Date For Simba's Pride: October 27
NEW Release Date For Simba's Pride: October 8
VoicesMatthew Broderick .... Simba (adult) (voice)
Nathan Lane .... Timon (voice)
Ernie Sabella .... Pumbaa (voice)
Rowan Atkinson .... Zazu (voice)
Robert Gualliome .... Rafiki (voice)
Zoe Leader .... Sarafina(voices)
Moira Kelly .... Nala (voice)
Neve Campbell .... Kiara, daughter of Simba (voice)
Jason Marsden ("Step by Step") .... Kovu-(voice)
Unknown.... Zira the villianess
Nuka....villianess offsiders is pretty crazy and wants to kill Simba
himself. Has hear he is supposed to be very funny.
Unknown.... Scar's pride
Unknown.... Vitani, a female cub. There are model sheets for this
character but is unknown which pride she belongs to
Scar's Pride seems be have been Scar's own pride outside
of pride rock. Due to Scar's Death, Zira, the villianess, is seeking
revenge on Simba, for killing Scar.
Kovu starts out as a villain and is supposed to grow up and take revenge on Simba, but he falls in love with Simba's daughter and Simba has to try and decide weither or not he should be the next king of Pride Rock
Sarabi will not be in the movie, so she will not die in
the movie
After the second re-write, The Hyenas were replaced, and now the
villianess is now with Scar's pride of lions.
Simba does not die in the movie
Kovu will be the only animal to have a girlfriend (Sorry Zazu)
KOVU will not be Scar's son
Well guys, I have some more info, but it's not clear yet on if it's true, but more facts will be seen from me shortly...now, I leave you with a NEW rumor....
I heard thru the grapevine that the Lion King will have at least another movie after Simba's Pride and will continue on like Aladin and Beauty and the beast did, but with more quality. I'll keep ya posted on more details or feel free ta mail me for more info!
Rachel
Tha Lion King Gossip Queen
May 17 - 18:30
Location: Delaware
E-mail: Lady_Tritoch@hotmail.com
May 17 - 17:21
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May 17 - 17:14
Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk
http://www.lionking.org/~talami/SPscene2.jpg
Sorry for the confusion :-(
Bye again,
Chris.
May 17 - 12:59
Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globlnet.co.uk
Ok, it's a week after the preview of 10th May, and I feel it's time for a review of 'the state of the nation'. I have considered a lot of dfferent threads and tried to make some sort of sense of them all as a whole, and these are my conclusions. They are based on 'best available' inforamation and even so, some are no more than best guesses. The more observant among you may well notice that some of this contradicts my earlier statements - that's to be expected as there is now more information available and as yet more is released (in further press releases, trailors and interviews etc.) my views will continue to change and evolve.
So, let's get on with it :-)
Release: 27th October 1998
Format: Direct to video, 4:3
Note: the first video to be released of SP, shown on 26th April appeared to be widescreen, but comparison with the same scene in the 10th May preview shows that the 'widescreen' effect was acheived simple by blanking the top and bottom of the screen. Take a look at http://www.lionking.org/~talami/SPcomp.jpg (the version on the left is from 26th April, right 10th May).
Crew: Disney TV animation Australia.
Cast:
Simba (speaking and singing): Matthew Broderick
Nala: Moira Kelly (almost certainly)
Young Kiara: Lacy Chabert (she has been identified as the voice on the 10th May preview - I cannot personally confirm this as I don't know what Lacy sounds like)
Adult Kiara: Neve Campbell
Kovu: Jason Marsden (but as it is now certain that Kiara appears as both a cub and adult it is likely that Kovu does too)
Zira: Suzanne Pleshette (still no confirmation of Kathleen Turner, despite whatever what she apparently said on recent television appearances, it is unlikely that there are 'Young' and 'Adult' Zira's, Kathleen and Suzanne are both 'mature' actress, at least compared to Lacy Chabert for example)
Timon & Pumbaa: Nathan Lane & Ernie Sabella
Rafiki: Robert Guillaume
Zazu: Known to appear (he is seen in the 10th May preview) but Rowan Atkinson has not been associated to SP by any confirmed source)
Mufasa: James Earl Jones (Mufasa made a sort of appearance in cloud form in the 10th May preview, but no voice over was audible)
Vitani: possibly Jennifer Lien - comfirmed as a character through merchandising, Jennifer has said she has voiced a character, Vitani may (just may) be the one, there again could this be the Kathleen Turner role? I think this unlikely, but possible nonetheless. Nothing more is known about her.
Nuka: Andy Dick - confirmed as a character as he appears in merchandising.
Two other adult lionesses were seen in the preview; both grey and almost certainly not characters we have seen before - but they were following Zazu, Timon and Pumbaa towards Pride Rock which suggests they are 'friendly', at that stage in the film at least. Is one Zira? and/or Vitani? Can anyone shed more light on these two? Please - no wild guesses :-)
Plot: Not much is known yet, but it's obvious that Kiara meets and gets to know Kovu when they are cubs. The preview includes a scene with adult Kiara which looks to me to be a re-union with Simba and Nala. That's all we know for sure, anything else is just speculation at this stage. There was a much discussed scene in the preview where a lioness roars (putting up a small flock of birds) while standing alongside a lion. The presence of Timon and Pumbaa in this scene (http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~talami/SPscene2.jpg) strongly suggests to me that the lion and lioness are Simba and Nala, though it does not entirely rule out the possibility that it's Adult Kovu and Kiara, but I feel this is really a long shot. Have a look and decide for yourself. If it's Simba and Nala then it looks to me that they are looking for Kiara, who therefore has run away (this hypothesis is supported by the re-union scene later in the preview), and Nala's roar is a call to her daughter.
It is certain that Kovu is Scar's son, as confirmed official sources describe Zira as 'Scar's widow', the same source also describes a long running feud between the 'Outland' (note: not pluralised in the original source) and the Pride Lands, and that Zira and Kovu are 'Outlanders'. It may well be that Disney will give some clarification of the relationships, particularly between Mufasa and Scar (brothers - The Lion King stated, but that could mean all sorts of things if you consider it carefully). I feel that this is likely as the subject of incestuous relationships has already been discussed in connection with SP, indeed it is reportedly a major factor in prompting the re-write that occurred. If we, TLK fans, can have heated discussions about this, then boy, will the religious pressure groups have a field day - unless Disney makes the 'truth' crystal clear. Thus while Kovu IS Scar's son, I am pretty certain there will be startling revelations in SP (quite possibly that Mufasa and Scar were not actually true brothers - hence solving most of the 'incest' problems).
The comment that SP will have strong echoes of 'Romeo and Juliet' seems very plausible - the feud, the (forbidden and secret) romance across the divide, we shall see; though clearly no one commits suicide in SP.
Technical Quality: Well, judge for yourself. What little we've seen looks good. Not great, but good. Though the parts we've seen may well turn out to be the highlights. There's hope that SP will be a notch above the other DTV sequels.
Songs: So far we've only heard 'We Are One', which while generally agreed to be hummable and catchy, but Marty Panzer's lyric is rather lack-lustre. So far there has been little hint of the other songs (I remember hearing there were to be six in all, but I could well be wrong). Kathleen Turner has sung an extract from another song - a 'vicious lullabye' - on TV. One thing is certain, whatever 'We Are One' else is, it was not written by Elton John.
Well, that's all for today.
Bye,
Chris.
May 17 - 12:48
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I tink i have asked this before, but, does anyone know who those 2 lionnesses are that Zazu is flying in front of on the clip, We are One? Please tell me who.
Thanx
S.
May 17 - 12:23
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I tried going to this SP someone wrote here before
http://www.simbaspride.net
& it told me the adress doesnt isnt valid!
check it again! maybe u got it wrong.
May 16 - 21:32
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E-mail: neema@lionking.org.
Kovu's mother isZira. But -- and this is so good, since I think it is a stupid, stupid, stupid idea -- the name used to be Bianca
Okay, anyway, that's all I know. Is Chaka still alive? Nope -- according to scripts and every source and Disney themselves; no way. He got written out a long, long, long time ago.
Any more info? I have none. But you're welcome to EMailme and ask questions -- all that stuff. :)
See yah. :)
Neema.
May 16 - 19:22
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May 16 - 18:52
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This place isn't one to argue on -- we're supposed to put rumors on here and talk about Simba's Pride, not argue over wether Kovu is Scar's son or not! It seems obvious he is; and little kids wouldn't care. I think young kids would like that Scar has a son.
Okay.. I have no new info -- darn -- but, ciao all!
Neema
May 16 - 11:28
Dark Leopard
Location: A tree in the savannah
E-mail: fmathias@redeglobo.com.br
Some notes about lion incest and related subjects:
- it's extremely rare cubs in a pride don't be brothers;
- the defeat of the leader by youngers or strongers lions is not just common, but is a fundamental procedure to the lion's reproduction;
- none would be thinking about incest or things like that if some hipocrit people didn't start to talk abou it.
Who told scar and mufasa's father was the last king before them? They could have defeated one old king of that territory...
Opera brief: until when is it good follow reality?
Now, go and have fun."
May 16 - 10:33
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Remember that!
bye
May 16 - 10:03
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Also one more thing before I sign off. this also sort-of has to do with the Kovu/Scar thing. I think that comparing TLK and SP with actuall lion prides and actuall lion behavior is going a weeeee bit too far. I mean if you want to completely anylize it, would a lion really trick his nephew into standing in the middle of a stampede so that his brother would die so that he could achieve total domination of his pride? I think that part of what makes the Lion King so good is that it is a tad unrealistic, and to make it completely like real life would totally ruin the story.
Well, that's enough out of me. Just thought I'd share.
May 16 - 07:58
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I think that this incest thing is stupid. SP an entertaining event,
not the world convension of bugs & logic!
who cares if kovu is simba's cosin! (?????)
its not like I wont let my little brother watch it couse its "not moral"! (not that I HAVE a little brother)
besides, lions dont care!!! lions dont talk, lions dont fall in love, lions dont run away of they're pride of shame, LIONS ARE'NT KINGS!!!!
so why should lions be worried about incest?! its a cartoon !
not n afternoon spacial!
ok, u want to be logical?! what about nala?! she is eather the daughter of mufasa, of scar, or of the prevoius king (which is mufasa & scar's father)
so u tell me about incest!!!! sorry, I didnt mean to sound.... insane... I was just trying to make a point...
Hong Kong Phooey, "timon & pumba" may have won awards, but in my country TLK was rated very low & was'nt secesful, so I didnt want to go & watch it in cinema, & I quote:
"The disney version of hamlet". & look what I missed! I still remember that review to this day! (no, realy!) I never trusted reviews from that point on!!! so I dont care about awards, the only thing that matters to u,
is what U think! thank u, thank u very much!
by the way, I didnt say kovu looks like a knockoff of another lion cartoon character!
I like him too! I ment his mane! he's a cub & he has a mane! so that reminded me of "simba king of the jungle".
(somaone mentiond somathing like "jungle cubs", it might be the same thing, but who knows...)
just ask ME if u need info! I feel so used....... well, see u at school tomorrow....
hmmmm... kovu's eyes.... your're right! they r cool! but dont get too excited, scar's eyes were way cooler!
& if u look at the character model (that can be found in this page's picture archive, misc) of mufasa u will see he has cool eyes there too!
someone said somathing about little kids doing... ummm.... things..... with their sisters!
well 1. to do that u have to be a little kid that doesnt understand what he's doing.
& 2. if he's a little kid, I dont think he'll build simba a little family tree in his head, then make the connection to scar, then get to the conclusion that lovu is simba's cousin, then understand that he is doing... things.... with his 2nd cousin! then think "hmmm, if they do it, I'll do it!"
I think the kid will be more obsessed with "mmmmm.... my hair smells funny...." more then making the social connection of cousins, dont u think????
MAN, I'M GOOD!!!!!!!
hey, dont blame simba for being angry at this cub for looking like scar (& maybe being scar's son)!
u forget, his father tought him the he will always live in him! so why should'nt scar live in kovu? what, only kings get that right?! (;
& if scar lives in kovu... well.... we all know what comes next! ("long live the king.....")
hey, kris, u might have a thing here with this kovu is scar's grandson thing!
we are one
May 16 - 07:39
TLKfan
Location: Norway
E-mail: toreot@hellerud.vgs.no
Just a thought.....What if Kovu is Scar's GRANDSON?
I mean, maybe Scar met a lioness shorly after Simba's birth, and she got a son, or a daughter (Zira)
Maybe Zira is Scar's daughter?
Ok, just a thought...but I think it would be really cool!!
Kris-
May 16 - 07:28
Location: Oahu
E-mail: ziebarth-christian@byuh.edu
CMZ
May 16 - 02:49
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Brian
May 16 - 01:05
Student
Location: Still in Hawaii
E-mail: ziebarth-christian@byuh.edu
Thanks,
Christian :-)
P.S. Anyone who wishes can check out my website at:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/3472
May 16 - 00:18
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May 15 - 21:37
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May 15 - 20:15
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OK, so maybe Kovu isn't Scar's son.
But he has to be related in some way, or Disney wouldnt make him look so much -like- Scar.
( It would be really wussy if Disney did that just to make ppl, like Simba, go, " Oh, look, its Scar. He cant be the next king.." or stupid things like that.)
But...hrm.
I cant think much farther. My brain might
-->implode<--.
OH! yes, what I was gunna say, IS:
I was @ Wal-Mart 2Day and noticed that there was a 'Mulan' book out. I thought to myself,
" Hrm, that movie isnt out yet and isnt out till June or so.." Then, I suddenly had it!
MEBBE, 'yust maybe,
--> Do you think A SP book will be released 1-2 mnths. b4 the actual movie's released? I'm gunna keep looking, thats 4 sure.
I'm beggining to wonder about Disney's worthiness for actually making the sequel...
After all, there SP is nothing more than an overly glorified fanfic. *pff*
Well, bye! Thats all I have to say 4 now!
-=Zinou=-
May 15 - 18:38
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I am a totall Lion King freak, I know every little detail about it! But when it comes to Simbas Pride, well some people need to clue me in. Anyway I do know that in the bird scene, that is Kovu and i dont know that he is Scars son, but everyone on this mill is saying there was only one male lion, if there was, Nala would be Simbas brother! Didnt anyone stop to think that lionesses might just sneak away to another pride or whatever and. . .you know and then come back? and besides no lioness went near Scar so how could kovu even be there? wait. . . wait!! how could scar even look the way he does if mufasas mother and father werent incredibly ugly? Mufasa was a perfect lion! he looked and acted the way every lion should! so scar was obviously a default.
Well thats all i have to say! e-mail me please to talk about nything i have just said!
one more thing-Simba would not alow his daughter or Nala or anyone for that matter go anywhere near a lion who was so obviously related to Scar. He just isnt the type to start over even with a cub because he just might have some genes in him that go haywire. . .
(Nalas dad must have died)
May 15 - 17:35
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May 15 - 17:06
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Kovu IS Scar's son. It's obvious-- why would he look like Scar? And I don't think it's a conicidence or anything, either. Disney probably doesn't care wether or not people flame that idea. In my own opinion, I think it gives a little flair towards the plot of Simba's Pride. Anyway, just my opinion.
May 15 - 16:00
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I have revied the clip once againand i guess that lion could have been Kovu, but i still think he looks like simba. ANyway, the main reason i'm here, i can bring you lots of relief! due to 93 letters to disney, i have been able to get info. ( and a few paper cuts. THe letter was the sama, every time i sent it, they tell me that Simba will NOT die because they need him in the cartoon that is scheduled to air. I also asked about Kovu being Scar's son, they haven't told me about itbut i think, like many others, he was originally Scar's son but they cut those parts out beacase
they don't want parents sueing them because little johny tried to do stuff with his sister!!! Plus, if the rating people figure it out, they may make it PG, i also asked about the pre-sale, they said contact the disney stores in your area, i haven't gotten a chance to call, but when i do, i will tell you all i can! i looked at a cool picture of kovu and i think he HAs the COOLEST eyes, there green!!!!!!!! so COOL ( cool was used three times!) I am taking a pole on weither you think Kovu is scar's son, please put a won at the end of your rumors if you think he is, or a 2 if you don't. if you want you can just Email me.
May 15 - 13:41
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The grown lion with Timon and Pumbaa in the flying birds scene is Kovu.
If Kovu is Scar's son, then Simba's daughter Kiara will be marrying Simba's cousin. Even if this does happen in real life, I doubt that Disney would use this as material for a cartoon. I personally think they should have, but Disney would probably be boycotted even more.
There's no getting around the fact that Kovu looks just like Scar, though.
I don't think Kovu looks, as Beerit has said, like a knockoff of another lion cartoon character. I think Kovu looks cool!
And I'm glad Simba has a daughter instead of a son. Would you really have wanted to see the same story as "The Lion King?" At least we're getting a brand new situation with brand new characters.
Things could have been much worse. Imagine if Disney decided to go the "Return of Jafar" route and have Scar's twin brother come to Pride Rock with his hyena friends to defeat Simba! That would have been awful! If Disney has to have a "Lion King" Sequel, then I think they are doing something good with "Simba's Pride."
And, if the story to "Simba's Pride" is really good (I think it has great potential) then audiences won't care as much if the visuals aren't as polished as the Original "Lion King."
May 15 - 12:30
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thanks for the support about the hyena's.... Yes Beerit, you're right! Maybe people from Disney should check this rumor mill, I'm sure they will read alot about peoples wishes and thoughts... Not to mention about our desire to see more about SP!!
About Kovu and the incest thing... that could be true and it's not normal among lions to mate with some relative. Males are driven from the pride when they have reached the state of adulthood.
But another thing... what about Nala?? Who knows who the father is of Nala? I mean, were Sarafina and Sarabi not two lionesses of the same pride??? there was only ONE rulor at that time... Mufasa!
I don't think he shared the lionesses with Scar!!!
(Sorry about the thought, Nalaholics out there!)
And about that Kovu-looks-so-much-like-Scar thing, maybe Zira is a niece of Scar and Mufasa. She IS the mother of Kovu, but then mated with a lion which is of course NOT Scar. If Zira is family of Scar and Mufasa it will explain the resemblance of Kovu and Scar (and maybe a little bit of Mufasa like Zinou said). Maybe Scar went to her pride to seek some kind words and understanding from the pride of his niece. Maybe Scar was the favorite nephew of Zira and she is now very mad Simba had taken everything from him, even his life!
Ehmmm, you see Beerit, I have plenty of thoughts in my head too!! I think too much, but then this kind of story-lines will come out of my head. Well, it leaves you guys something to think about.
See ya!!
DARA
May 15 - 10:32
Location: Ann Arbor
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org
May 15 - 09:41
dreaming
Location: you know
E-mail: uh huh
see y'all!
May 15 - 08:55
(i'm on the internet...shhhh...)
Location: Utah...anybody ever heard of it?
E-mail: It's certified. I could tell ya, but my teacher would probably kill ya.
Asante Sana, y'all!
May 15 - 08:48
Animator
Location: Australia
E-mail: laurelm@ozemail.com.au
If your wondering why I haven't responded, it's because your E-mail isn't working it keeps sending it back, I'll keep trying.
-Mell
May 15 - 02:14
Location: TKL
E-mail:
I'm gone for a day & this place is packed with messeges!
well....
KYD, just look at the earlier messeges & u will find the plot!
people wrote it here a JILLION times! as for kovu, u should use "maybe"
we dont know. yet......
Zinou, I know u want to believe that kovu is scar's son, but I fear he wont be...
I dont think he will be ): but I dont KNOW so dont count on my word...
(refer to my last 2 messeges for more complaining about kovu not being scar's son.... (: )
& there's one more differance between kovu & scar. kovu's nails are'nt out all the time, unlike scar's.
I will be 13 on may 23rd. hey, that's soon!!!!!! cool! I have'nt noticed!!!!
& about my big messeges. I have a lot going on in my head, so I save the rumor mill to my hard drive, then write the answers in my note pad, so I wont worry about whaisting
conection time with all of my 1000000000 thoughts.
the hyena's should be in SP! simba have'nt gotten rid of them! its not like the were killed or chased away like simba WANTED to do to scar.
& that zire wanting to kill the hyenas thing is cool.
I had a thought. maybe someone from disney will check this page one day & read these stuff? wont that be cool!!! its about time they will listen to the public for a change!
u know, about kovu's dad thing, & the hyenas, & shani. we have something to say too!!!
no way kovu & kiara r at the same age!!!! not if scar is kovu's dad! I think scar had kovu, them RIGHT AFTER scar was killed &
simba & nala had kiara VERY soon after simba became king! then kovu is a bit older then kiara. (that explains why he has a mane!!!!)
but if he isnt scar's son then yes, they r probebly the same age.
by the way, why DOES kovu has hair?! he reminds me of some cartoon series we have in my country. in free translation its called "simba king of the jungle"
& its about some lion cub with magical powers that his father was killed by a lion named... get this, shirkhan!!! & the cub's best friend is named....
bambi!!!!!! weird uh? I liked it when I was little, but it always seemed strange that little simba had a mane! a mane just like kovu's only the animation was differant of course, so the mane looked differant, but it was the same idea!
what do u think about that? did disney run out of ideas so they steal them from cheasy TV shows? (:
there r all kinds of fan pics with little scar's with a mana. like myra weber's pics (which are X-elent)! why do everybody think that scar & his kids r born with hair, & simba isnt?!
your right when u say that simba doesnt have to die if kiara has a cub, but I think that sarabi was dead when kiara was born (if she was alive, why was'nt she on pride rock with the others in the end of TLK?!)
so simba will die SOON after! that will suck!
but kiara WILL have a cub. its obvious. maybe he'll look like cub simba, only darker & with a tiny mane?! cute.... maybe... final cut... probebly! its only logical she'll have a cub. with kovu of course.
shani is kiara's little sister, & she will probebly will be cut off the script couse she doesnt provide anything usefull to the general plot. kinda like zazu! but then again, zazu stayed in the final cut of TLK.....
by the way, did u notice that all the cubs fall in love with they're childhood friends?! simba & nala, kiara & kovu! why?! cant they mean the love of they're life as adults?
by the way, scar may looked slim & week, but you're forgetting he fought simba & almost won!!! & simba was big, AND he was MUFASA'S boy! & we all remember how mufasa looked!
we are one
p.s. kovu will grow up looking like simba with brown hair? u just described simba!!! no way, I want to know how a cub half simba-like & half scar-like will turn up!
besides, it will be like a good-scar, bad-scar thing! r u sure kovu will fight as a teenager?! where did u read this?!
I always wondered how a teen lion will look like. u just cant get anything from the 1 second pics u get when simba is on the log.....
mmm.... sorry for my tipeos, I dont have time to go through what I wrote....
bye...
May 15 - 02:13
Location: TX
E-mail: LKKing83@aol.com
May 14 - 20:51
Location:
E-mail: kristall@orwell.net
what is the main plot of Simba's Pride if any one knows this please e-mail me.
Thanks
May 14 - 19:39
Location: Ngorongoro Crater
E-mail:
In that bird scene, the lion is NOT SIMBA!
It is grown up Kovu that looks remarkably like Scar. Because, KOVU ( in all reasonable thought patterns ) IS SCAR's SON!!!
Why would Disney name him 'Kovu', Swahili equivalent, 'Scar', if he didnt have some relation?!
The only differnce I could see form Scar and grwon-up Kovu is that Scar had a wiry nose as was real skinny ( and awesome, and cool, and neat..)
.. and the grown-up Kovu had a Mufasa-type broad nose, and was muscular.
But, that lion is Kovu.
No doubt at all in my mind.
Still, I cant quiet see where Shani, Zira, and who-ever-else-lioness goes in the story. Mrm? If someone knows this, please say something..
And...I dont think that Kiara's VO=Lil' Simba's VO, because JTT's older now, and doesnt sound the same.
But I do agree they sound similair.
(Dad, -whine-, Circle of life, -whine..)
Etc., Etc.
Mrr.
Well,...besides my complaints about the anti-hyena campaign thats goin' on w/SP, I have nothing else to say..
But you never know!!
There mey be hyenas, at least in one clip!
( For those of you who watch that dumb little series Jungle Cubs, there has been hyenas included in it..and at timed warthogs that look just like Pumbaa...)
BYE!
-=Zinou=-
**WhooOOooOOoP!*
May 14 - 19:14
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May 14 - 18:05
Location:
E-mail: bankster@msn.com
Don't mistake me, I KNOW that what I said is true.
May 14 - 17:05
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May 14 - 15:08
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AAAAAH!!! You all wrote sooooooooooo much!!
Beerit, your messages are sooooooo long!! Well, great anyway, but I need half an hour to complete reading the rumours! I agree with most of you, I hate the idea that Kovu is NOT the son of Scar. Why, if Scar had a secret Pride anywhere, why not "make" some kids here and there?? I mean, is that not a normal thing to do for a lion king? So Kovu is an orphan I guess, Zira is taking care of him. Why does he looks so much like Scar and why does he have the same name: Kovu means Scar. Mmmm, I don't get it anymore. Like Disney hates the thought of Scar having a son! (get rid of the thougt! Aladdin and Jasmine got married at the sequel, so you can do everything you like...)
The voice of Kiara doesn't sound a LITTLE bit like little Simba, it sounds ENORMOUS like little Simba!!!!! First time I heard it, I thought it WAS young Simba.
By the way Beerit, how old are you anyway?
Just (toooo) curious.... Your page sound so cool!! I can hardly wait!!
The Timon & Pumbaa series are not so great (excuse me, don't kill me, but I think the Aladdin serie is much better, more serious etc.) but I like to watch T&P anyhow. It's kinda funny. But I don't like the humans in it, especially NOT that Quint-type or that SSSTUPID mr. Happy person! Without them, it's alot better... Well, just my opinion.
Personally I SIMPLY HATE the thought of the hyena's not being in the sequel!!!! I like every character in TLK, but the hyena's are sooooo funny and mean (just read those fan-fics of David Morris and John Burkitt and you'll know who the REAL enemy was!! You'll find out that the hyena's are anything but stupid, dumb or anything)
Well, just my idea why I think the hyena's should return in SP... Some other imaginairy plot:
*Zira will revenge Simba AND the hyena's for killing Scar. Then the hyena's and Simba's Pride will have to cooperate perforce with each other to get rid of Zira and her enormous, mean pride, which will contain a lot of strong rogue lions who will fear nothing! (well, a lot of you will find this a horrible thought I think... well, just my inspiration, maybe an idea for some fan fic someday... Would be great!!)
I gotta go know... Keep on writing!!
Dara
May 14 - 14:15
Location:
E-mail: SilvyrWing@aol.com
A look at the family life of lions indicates that a pride consists of several female lions and one dominant male lion. Therefore, If Kovu exists-which we all know he does-he would have had to have been born at the same time as Kiara, who is the same age as he is. this means Kovu was supposedly concieved before Scar died. since Scar would have been the only male lion in his pride, that makes Scar Kovu's father.
Just my input. I think it would be a crime if Kovu was not scar's son, but I'm sure the movie will be great anyway.
Silvyr
May 14 - 13:32
Pride Lands Co.
Location: Africa
E-mail: cboy8498@aol.com
#1: i agree with blue lion.
Simba doesn't have to die if Kiara has a cub do parents die when their teenagers become pregnant? In fact I hope they do it may set the stage for another movie, but if they do make another movie they better not mess it up!
#2: I have clarrified the entire bird flying up thing. here are the characters that are standing there and what they are doing Written from left to right.
Timon, Pumbaa, Simba, and Kiara.
timon and pumbaa are staring at the birds who are flying up, simba is watching kiara and kiara is roaring, causing the birds yo fly up, kiara is grown up in this clip.
#3 i have continuasly heard about the second daughter whos name is uhhhh uhhhhh...........
oh i forget i think it's serfi or something like that. i want all the info you can give me, and your opinions.
Thanks,
Mufasa's lost son and Simba's twin brother,
Shanobi
May 14 - 09:56
Location: Ann Arbor
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org
May 14 - 09:18
Location: http://tilehill.ac.uk
E-mail: 9700152@mail.tilehill.ac.uk
I am making a web page it is at this location
This is where the file are gonig to be the address is http://members.xoom.com/Parmy/
The file's are till in making but made I see what they look like
Come and see what you thing and comment's are welcome
May 14 - 07:41
Pride Lands Co.
Location: Africa
E-mail: Cboy8498@aol.com
I would like to clear up something, yesterday i was sick and devoted the whole day researching SP. And when i said down there that Kovu WASN'T Gonna be scars son, i didn't mean that he would be some street rat ( like the idiot alladin) and that Kiara was going to just fall in love as soon as she sees him, i meant that he was part of Scar's pride and he was raised to kill simba, but he fell in love and turned good. And i would hate it if Kovu acted, sounded or evan grew up to look like him,( i don't mean the color of the hair, just i don't want him looking all thin, limp and week i just don't want him reapeting the line " Exuse me for not leaping for joy, Bad back you know." ) i would like it if Kovu grew up looking like simba with brown hair. And i read on a web page that Kovu will turn good and then help simba battle scar's pride, he would be battling as a teenager, you know he will have just some fuzz of a mane on his head and chest, like the way simba looked while he was walking on the log, and well anyway, while he was fighting, he gets a scar on his eye wouldn't that SUCK!!!!!!? Well, i am sorry if my note scared some of you i was simply saying that i had read that kovu wouldn't be scar's son, but i have read so much stuff, i guees we won't know till October!
We R 1 !!!
Mufasa's lost son and Simba's twin Brother
Shanobi
May 14 - 05:26
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May 14 - 04:33
Animator
Location: Australia
E-mail: laurelm@ozemail.com.au
May 14 - 02:50
Animator
Location: Australia
E-mail: laurelm@ozemail.com.au
May 14 - 02:44
Location: TKL
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I just said that kiara must learn about the circle of life from simba so that she
could teach her cub one of those days! but wouldn't that be cool?!?!?!?
simba will be a grandfather.... hummm.... but then he'll DIE!!!! no way!
the worse thing disney can do to this movie (except NOT making kovu the son of scar)
is to kill simba!!!! Viva Simba! ok, now that that's clear....
Amira: I had the same thought! Kiara DID sound like young simba!
no, more like nala with a bad throut. yhea, more like that....
but she still sounded like simba!
and I will say this again! I will recognize Matthew Broderick's voice!
I watched TLK more times that most of u guys!!! trust me, the number of times I watched that movie is in-human!
& why would disney give the song to anyone else?!
Amira, your 12?! finally! I never met a TLK fan your age! all of them are teenagers or adults!
which is odd considering its an animated movie! but I guess that's what's cool about TLK! everybody likes it!
its not like potatohontas or whatever her name is... (:
Shanobi, this page is FILLED with SP addresses u can go to to get info on characters but I guess the best places u can start are
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1888/busa.html &
http://www.crosswinds.net/columbia-mo/~wdisney/Future/SimbaPride.htm
p.s. it will be the coolest if she will marry scar's son! he will start as a bad guy but when he falls in love with simba's doughter (that's Kiara for u) he becomes a good guy! I love it!
Viva La Plot!
So why isn't he scar's son?! what's wrong with that?! it adds up great! oh, MAN!!!!!!! there goes the coolest plot twist!
Zinou, there is one thing that messes up the plot... & I just went 3 lines explaining what it is!
WHY?! WHY DID THEY DO IT?! NOW KOVU IS JUST SOME LION!!!!!! THIS IS SO UN-COOL...... ok, I'm fine......
timon & pumba are kinda nice, maybe they're part will be to teach Kiara to have fun!
I didn't like them too much too... they distracted simba from the main cause. to go back to the pride lands!
besides, they kinda bugged me... but, the good thing I can say on them is this:
I only laughed 2 times in TLK. when timon said : "carnivores, oish!"
& when he said "& everybody's ok with this?" when nala & simba unite. that was cool!
but that's all.....
by the way, my favorite character is adult simba.
yes, yes, not young simba, not scar, & not nala, unlike most people! if u have a problem with that, tough! (:
we are one
p.s. there r yet 2 more thing that I didn't like in the SP preview!
(PLEASE read my last message!)
1. when kiara smiled at simba after he pushed her off the rock, her smile looked more like the
smile simba & nala gave Sarabi when they wanted to go to the elephant graveyard. ("Pleeeeeese?!")
this kinda like those fake smiles! but I think the animators wanted it to be a "real" smile, & screwed it up! her smile turned up too "pleeeese"sy.....
2. u know how the animators paint the background & then paint the animals & put it together so the background will look more reliable or whatever?
well, when u see the antelopes run from afar, if u look more carefully, u will see that the background is not moving with the antelopes. what I mean, it looks like the antelope are "sliding" on the grass! check it out!
and after simba & kiara watch the little dear start walking & hopping & simba hops over the rock with kiara after him, he "slides" on the rock too! just go frame by frame & u will see it!
p.s.s. I think michael Jackson's song "stranger in Moscow" reminds me of TLK. well, almost everything reminds me of TLK, but that song's chorus reminds me of simba's pain. I don't know why.....
May 14 - 02:01
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May 13 - 19:42
Location: Ngorongoro Crater
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Sorry Brian!
Thanks for the correction.. =)
Still, there's a one year difference.
^.^
U
-=Zinou=-
BTW, Timon&Pumbaa's Cartoon is really stupid..
In fact, I dont know how Disney could find it in any reason to include them in the new movie..
Oh well...I guess I just think that way cause I hated Timon&Pumbaa in the first place..
I know they're supposed to provide comic relief,
but they only mess up the realisim of TLK...
Bye, NOW!
May 13 - 18:41
Disney Fan
Location: Brisbane, Australia
E-mail: s1287183@student.gu.edu.au
I would like to express some of the things I know about Simba's Pride as well as some thoughts and a
couple of questions.
First off, I would like to address the issue of the Disney direct-to-video-movie. I have each Disney direct-to-video-movie, except that Winnie the Pooh one, in my own personal collection. I can understand all your fears about Simba's Pride looking really poor but can youo please listen to what I have to say. The animation for the direct-to-video-movies is done by the same people who animated the TV shows except the videos are done entirely by the Disney owned studios in Canada, Japan and Australia. This could be a little worrying for most of you considering that Australia, who is responsible for the animation on Simba's Pride, animated the first half of 'The Return of Jafar', a majority of 'Aladdin and the King of Thieves' and some episodes of that TV series that you all seem to despise, 'Timon and Pumbaa'(For any of you who can bear to view any of the episodes of this program, they did the cartoons 'French Fried' and 'Never Everglades'. They also did the Aladdin series episodes 'Never Say Nefir', 'Sneeze the Day' and 'Genie Hunt' among others). I will now say that I, traditionally watching the Australian animation on the TV series, have been a fan of their work for quite some time now. I must say that they have exceeded my expectations of their work on what I've seen of Simba's Pride. Don't let the fact that they have worked on the other projects deter you from seeing Simba's Pride. It is a step up from everything they've already done. I know that the animators have been working on Simba's Pride since 1996. To me, this would suggest quite a lot of effort being put into the project. I also know that the studio received a new computer colouring machine to work on Simba's Pride, hence the cool colour graduations on Simba's nose and the absence of thick, black outlines to the characters. Simba may look older than in TLK but who's to say that he couldn't have grown some more? Kiara has grown since TLK hasn't she? I also don't think that Simba looks like Mufasa anymore than in the original. Another thing. This Don Bluth-Hippos thing. As far as I know, Don Bluth has studios in England and America but not in Australia, so the possibility of the hippos being done by an ex-Don Bluth animator is fairly slim. I don't see what the problem is with the monkeys, or the hippos for that matter, but the outlines on the antelopes I can understand upsetting people. TV animators use 10 frames per second instead of 24 like the movies, just like Melanie (?) the animator said.
Another thing is that this movie will be an improvement from other Disney video movies. If this is a success, we can probaly expect to see more higher quality video movies soon.
According to Melanie (?), there is a TV series in the works. It will, according to her, be done at the same studio that is animating Simba's Pride. I'm not sure if that means the entire series will be done by them but I sure hope it does.
I've got a couple of questions now. Is Lebo M involved with SP? Does anybody else think that Warthog Rhapsody from RotPL could be used in SP?
Also one last thing about the way the characters move and look. Different animators have different styles so to see the characters move almost the same way as in the original movie requires a lot of effort on the behalf of the animators.
Thanks for reading my thoughts and questions!
Type here what you think.
James
May 13 - 18:30
Location: Ann Arbor
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org
One last thing, and please please PLEASE don't take this the wrong way... I really LOVE TLK (about $3,000 worht of merchandise so) but I think SP is being released in October to compete with Dreamworks Prince of Egypt (which looks kind of like a TLK imitation from the art I've seen on the internet) just a thought....
May 13 - 16:03
www.lionking.org
Location: Caltech
E-mail: btman@lionking.org
Your dates are off by a year. TLK was released in June 1994, and then Pocahontas came out in 1995. :)
Brian
May 13 - 15:47
Location: Ngorongoro Crater
E-mail:
What do you mean? OF COURSE its not going to be as good as the original, but I have a feeling it will be good! here's why:
A: LK came out about June '93. Pocohontas came out in June '94. The Pocohonats sequel is coming out b4 the LK one. Now...what does this tell you?
Disney spent more time on the Lk sequel than on Poco. ( Which BTW, I -Hate- Pocohonatas.)
B: They didnt mess it up by doing something extremely stupid ( well, as far as I could see form that what...uh, one and a half minute?) like bringing back Mufasa, making nala have twins, etc. etc.
And thats enouugh blahhing.
As a response to one of the previous posts, here is what I can summarize of the story so far:
(Please note: this is only what I summarize and everyone's opinion is differnt!)
Simba and Nala's cub is Kiara. Kiara grows up in a fashion similair to Simba when he was a kid. (Minus the trama of running away, getting his father killed..etc..)Kiara then is supposed to fall in love with Kovu, of whom I beleive IS Scar's son. And of course, Simab doesnt like it, and the whole story is some stuff about Simba learning to realize that Kovu is NOt Scar, and not to hate and forgive and stuff like that! (whew.)
The hyenas arent in it (boo, hiss!!) and neither is sarabi, as is I've heard, and I'm still debateful on the characters known as Shani, Zira, and some other lionesses that are supposed part of Scar's 'pride', of which I dont believe exists.
Thats what I think, so far.
Alos, I've put together the lyrics of 'We Are One', cause I think its a great song. Greater in more ways than one. No kidding. here they are:
As you go through life you'll see,
There is so much that we--
Don't understannnnnnnd.
And the only thing we know,
Is that things dont always go,..
The way we plannnnnned..
But you'll see every day,
That we'll never turn away,
When it seems
All your dreams
Come undone..
We will stand by your side,
Filled with hope and filled with pride,
We Are more than we are, we are one!
(Chorus)
One, one one..
Fam'ly, Fam'ly..
WE ARE ONE...
Fam'ly, Fam'ly,
WE ARE ONE...
Even those who are gone,
Are with us as we go on,
Your journey has only begunnnnn,
Tears of pain, tears of joy,
One thing nothing can destroy,
is our PRIDE deep inside,
We are ONE!
(Chorus)
We are one,
You and I,
We are like the earth and sky,
One familyyy under the sunnn,
All the wisdom to lead,
All the courage that you need,
You will find when we see...
We are ONE!
And yes, I know someone already wrote teh lyrics, but I ( no offense intened) think that this is a lil' easier to read. K?
All I have to say 4 now!
Bye!!
-=Zinou=-
May 13 - 15:18
hmm...
Location: Tartarus
E-mail: sirleo@gte.net
LONG LIVE SIMBA!
-SirLeo
May 13 - 15:09
Pridelands co.
Location: africa
E-mail: cboy8498@aol.com
i have all new info, As it turns out, Kovu is not scars son! he was rasied by an evil lioness named Ziara. She is part of scar's pride!!!!!!!!!
yes scar had a secret pride that lived somewhere. So they want reveng on simba for killing scar, soooo they raise kovu to kill simba, but he turns good when he falls in love with Kiara. Sarabi isn't in it, sarafina nala's mom takes her place, simba doesn't die,i do not know who exactly does die but if you email me ican give you hush hush info. Including the rumor about zazu's girlfriend, Hint i know her name!!!!
So if you'd like, email.
Mufasa's lost son and simba's twin brother
Shanobi
May 13 - 15:06
Pride lands Co.
Location: Africa
E-mail: Cboy8498@aol.com
Dear who ever reads this letter, I am very confused about SP, well at least the characters,so if any one would assist a fellow lion in need, PLease send a list of the characters and explain who they are in an e-mail! my address is stated above. Also, If anyone has any web sites on SP i'll be glad to look at them. LAst but not least, Does anyone Know if Simbas daughter marries Scar's son???? I hope not. My theory is that he is really evil and is only acting nice to Simba's daughter so he can kill simba the grand lion him self
Thanx.
Mufasa's Lost son and Simba's twin brother,
Shanobi
May 13 - 14:08
Metallica
Location: Wherever I May Roam
E-mail: JaymzLarz@aol.com
Til next time buds!
May 13 - 13:58
Location:
E-mail: bankster@msn.com
Another person also said earlier that she/he saw a lion that "could have been Scar." I don't think it was; it could have been Kovu as adult.
I'm watching the May 10 preview right now...... After watching it a million times, it sounds like Matthew Broderick IS singing "We Are One".
P.S. Sorry about my last post. I'm only 12 and I didn't really understand what EST REALLY was. I live in California so the TLK thingy DID come on 7:00 p.m. at where I'm at. For the rest of you who do not live in California, or such, it came on either an hour earlier or later.
Hakuna Matata!
May 13 - 12:58
student
Location: Regina
E-mail: orca_freedom@hotmail.com
May 13 - 11:55
TLKfan
Location: Norway
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Kris
May 13 - 10:59
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While I'm ranting, does anyone else see the double standard Disney has with its movies? Disney is willing to make many live-action films with PG and R content, and yet its Animated Feature division must stay at a "G" level due to its "reputation."
So Disney's live-action divisions can make "Pulp Fiction" and "Scream" and the animated features are forced to de-evolve in order to maintain a "G" rating--a rating that can mean death at the box office and audiences seeing the same old story about a hero, a princess, a villain, some funny sidekicks, and broadway showtunes.
May 13 - 10:55
Location: TKL
E-mail:
evedance to my foolishness.....
http://www.migvan.co.il/scripts/magicpage/magicpage.pl?page_preview=yes&count=2619
May 13 - 10:41
Location: TKL
E-mail:
well, first about ME! (of course...)
I m handling quite a lot of projects! most of them TLK/SP related.
my current status is:
*I'm working on TLK avatars. don't break your head trying to figure out what n avatar is.
its just this cool thing. I have 45 avatars. all of my doing!
*I have about 3 pages FILLED with TLK oopsies! (that's one HELL of n oops!)
& about 4-5 SP oopsies! the movie isn't even out yet & we already find oopsies!!!!!!!!! cool.....
*I m working on TLK animated gifs. about 20, which most can be found on this page. & 7 more that aren't done yet. but I have about 4 SP animated gifs too...
p.s. I have a life!
*I have 33 fan art on my PC. MY fan art.... but its all just cut-outs from frames from the movie or from other people's fan art,
"glued" together. its great!!! I have this pic of scar trying to leap at superman!! that one is one of my coolest pics!
don't ask me to see my hand drawn pics! its awful!
*I m working on fan fic too. all kinds of stuff like what happened to Nala when she & Simba splitted up & she want to find the lionesses. or what happened to Timon & Pumba after the "hula" gig.
*I collect SP info. lots of it!
*I currently have 16 SP pics. out of them 11 are made by me (not hand drawn...) including my cool collage, 1 is candy's fan art (which is really cool!), and the rest are from the net!
*and this will come as cool news to my fellow SP lovers! n SP windows theme!!! yes! sounds from SP! but if u see n SP theme they stole the idea from me!!!!!!!! just kidding! its almost ready! I just need to
know how to use FTP. if anyone knows tell me PLEASE!!!!! I NEED to know!!!!!!
cool, uh?!
now for my comments!
Timon & Pumba from the cartoon aren't THAT bad, they're just kinda weird!
but what's with Simba?! why is everything is so orange?! what happened to all the greens & blues that so
suited the movie it TLK?! orange is not good! orange=bad! blue=good! (now I'm just talking like n sienfeld...)
it sucks! the sky looks like they painted them with pastels! no clouds!!!! and the color of them makes them look solid! like some blanket over the pridelands!! I wont even BEGIN to tell u about how pride rock looks!!!!
the monkeys look too cartoon-like! pride rock is too steep! its goes like this /
how is a lion going to climb on it! that is one of the oopsies on both of the films. pride rock is extremely
steep from afar but when u see the animals on it from close it looks straight! Kiara looks JUST like Simba, only they changed her look a bit
so u can see she's a girl. simba's "hands" r too fat. and that is what is wrong about the clip. wow.... that's a lot.....
its about time they cut shani off! she had no part! she was just some kind of background.... thing!
& even though shani was vary un-necessary character, by taking her off the script....
WERE MISSING SOME HECK OF A CUTE CUB!!!!!
by the way, did u notice that Kiara is the opposite of Simba as a cub? remember "just cant wait to be king"? well..... I don't thing there will be a JCWTBK2 if u know what I mean...
if kovu isn't going to be scar's son then let him be his grandson, or nephew, or third cousin from his mother's side, I DONT CARE!!! as long as he's related to scar!
this way Kiara fells in love with someone related to scar & Simba must know how to accept this...
that is the coolest part of the plot!!! by the way, please tell me who the hell (sorry, Brian) is the main character?! Simba or Kiara? the movie is named "simba's pride"! but Kiara is the cub & its her life the movie is about, no? tell me.....
leave the hippo alone! he was cute.....
by the way. what is "da bomb-ass"?!
of course it was matthew broderic who song WRO! I don't have any source, but u can tell! they just told him to sound fatherly!
like when mufasa told simba about the circle of life or when he was a ghost, his voice was very deep, but when he talked as usual (like when zazu came with the morning report)
he sounded like this... pal! & this is what happened with simba/matthew broderic!
I think the lion u see when the birds fly off is kovu himself, & that the lioness next to him is kiara.
candy, your fan art rules! can I put it in my site when I have one? I'm trying to have as many as possible in it! it rocks! kiara looks like she's gonna go "prrrrrr" any moment! (:
to Snowy:
nala is the queen, but she doesn't know about the circle of life, and SOMEONE has to teach kiara's kid about it! (UHHHHHH, KIARA IS GOING TO HAVE A KID! HOW CUTE!!!!)
kiara has to know how to rule, not how to marry well!!! ((;
that was very weird what I just said! but its true....
ooph!!!!!!! all done! I hope u had the time to read all of this! (;
we are one
p.s. my page is out! kinda........ I only have links in it until I know how to use FTP so tell me soon! almost all known and unknown SP sites!
and links to all the clips!
is nice. but I have to know how to use FTP!!!!!
p.s.s. in the song simba says "when our dreams come undone..."
well I thought he said "come alive...." so I didn't know why he was talking like it was a bad thing.... (:
I m n idiot!
May 13 - 10:40
Animator
Location: Australia
E-mail: laurelm@ozemail.com.au
Any how I shall repeat, there IS going to be a series made for Simba's Pride and it is currently underway in Sydney.
The other thing I would like to mention is that the reason why an animated series doesn't look as good as a full feature movie is because we only draw half as many frames them double them up on film (exclutions are talking...).
No, unfortunatly I am not working on SP I live in Melbourne the best town of Oz (for all of you out side, up there Sydney is a very business orientated city...)They are for some reason bringing animators from the Disney studios in America over here to help out.
I hope I have enlightened my beloved pride of lions,
-Mell
May 12 - 20:49
Location:
E-mail:
Just my thoughts.
Oh, & 1 more thing. (& here opinions may vary) but does any1 think that it's kinda ironic that Disney's best movie &, based on the clips, sequel to date (not to mention Broadway production) are related to TLK?
I'd better stop rambling now, bye.
May 12 - 20:46
KMI
Location: Southern California
E-mail: kmoon@geocities.com
bugged me about it. For one, I didn't like the
lighting. The colors feeled very subdued over
the lush, beautiful colors seen in TLK. Actually,
I'm hoping it's just the lighting (I'm guessing
around sunset) since they seemed a lot more
subdued.
Second, it bugged me that Simba's daughter kinda
just dinked around from scene to scene, and didn't
say much. Not sure how I feel about that, but I
don't feel very happy, that's for sure.
I hope Disney has a lot more than what that trailer is hinting at - otherwise, I'd be very disappointed.
I figure that a sequel will never be as great as TLK, but I agree with someone on this list - it's just Disney's colorful fan fic. :) I will accept none of it as canon if I don't like it, since I don't figure they'll be compelled to do another sequel (I think the original stands pretty well by itself). However, unlike one recent poster, I don't think it'll ruin my memory for the original - I'll just reject anything unworthy. ;)
Incidentally, I'm hoping TLK comes out on DVD - I'd love to have a widescreen version with AC-3 audio. Somehow, laser discs don't seem to be a viable option for me, anyhow.
Disney seems to be pretty against DVD, coming rather late, only releasing some live action so far (AFAIK), and seems to be looking favorably on Divx to protect their copyrights and such. I hope not. But until then, I'll wait out on DVD or buying a copy of TLK.
BTW, if it came out in theaters again, would anyone go to watch it? I think I might.
May 12 - 20:45
Location: Ann Arbor
E-mail: tmponze@bluelion.org
May 12 - 19:51
Location: pride lands
E-mail:
May 12 - 17:45
Location: Gummi Glen, Dunwyn
E-mail: HCHoover@aol.com
that a sequel to the movie is a bad idea.
I think it's great that new material is being
made to complement the movie, however, I have
a feeling that the sequel is going to ruin the original.
I rate TLK as one of the best Disney movies
to come from The Walt Disney Company in years.
I think that TLK is perfected to the limit.
I believe that SP is going to bring a terrible
imperfection to this monumental animation feature.
The reason I'm thinking so negatively is due
to the recent projects of The Walt Disney Co.
1. Disney has never made a very succesful attempt
at producing a sequel to an animation feature,
with the exception of The Rescuers, and maybe
Saludos Amigos. 2. Timon and Pumbaa, the series
was plain awful. 3. Disney's recent DTV (direct to video) releases aren't worth the VHS tape they were recorded on.
I hope Disney suprises us all with SP, as TLK
is too great a film to destroy with an awful sequel.
-Ubwe
May 12 - 17:28
Black Leopard
Location: Brasil
E-mail: fmathias@redeglobo.com.br
First o fall i may thank you that converted da clip "We Are One", cause, 'course, here in BR I DON'T have abc... neither cable tv... So Thank You!!! :))
Further, i must say i was a bit disapointed. Cause the anim. quality, some of animals i really didnt like (antilopes) and the music (ok, u can flame me now).
But i loved Kiara (I WANNA A DAUGHTER!!!) and, of course, i'm very curious about the restant... I just wan to know by now... there's something more, or it's just the clip? Well thak you all for all of it.
See ya!
(Sanannah's hp comming soon)
May 12 - 16:29
Location: England
E-mail: rmcinnes@clara.net
Rob McInnes
May 11 - 17:11
Location: here again...
E-mail:
Janet
May 11 - 16:30
Location: Exton, PA
E-mail: panthro@uscom.com
with Brians note, i figured i should post it here too
Subject:
crappy computer
Date:
Mon, 11 May 1998 12:38:03 +0000
From:
Ray Kiefer
To:
raccoon@lionking.net
that sorenson compression stuff is cool, pretty much halves the size
one problem, im running a 66 mhz 68040 with system 7.5.5, 24
megs ram and qt 3.0 and it wont play
from what i can tell, my processor is so overrun by
attemping to decipher the file that it ignores the screen
and speakers in favour of doing its own calculations
now, the we are one clip is 16 megs, im assuming the cinepak
version would be 32.
thats way to big for me to expect you to post, not to
mention download over a 14.4 (not that i havent done a file
that large, takes about 6-12 hours depending on lag) and
keep on my overflowing half-gig hard drive
so, my point:
can you recomend a freeware/shareware piece of software that
can decompress sorensen and recompress it into cinepak?
this way i (and many others) can download the 16 meg file,
convert it to 32, and have little trouble if any viewing it
please let me know your thoughts
-Ray
------------------
now brian on the other hand, has been known to keep files that size available *wink wink nudge*
May 11 - 15:40
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http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/2679/kiara.jpg
May 11 - 15:27
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Kara
May 11 - 15:10
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May 11 - 15:01
Location: Louisiana
E-mail: snayle@net-2000.net
~~~Crystal~~~
May 11 - 14:58
Location:
E-mail: cpalmer@primary.net
May 11 - 14:55
Location: Pridelands, California
E-mail: jetrse@earthlink.net
About that hippo. There is a good possibility that someone from Don Bluth DID animate that shot. The company is dying if not already dead,and the animators are getting employed by other companies.
Just wanted to include that tid bit.
( Simba is da bomb-ass lion!!!!!)sorry..had to be said..
May 11 - 14:53
Location: Pridelands,California
E-mail: jetrose@earthlink.net
Since this is a rumor mill,I guess i'll fill it up with some rumors. Timon and Pumbaa will be drawn by the same people who drew the cartoon. However, they will not touch the lions, since anyone who saw the cartoon knows that Simba looked just horrid. No offical souce, but I think that poor Shani was cut from the final film. Also, that Lacey will be the voice of young Kiara and Neve as the older version. I think that that was Scar's pride that Timon, Pumbaa, and Zazu were leading to Pride Rock.
And if Disney thinks that they are going to tell us that Kovu is NOT Scar's son, there's something wrong with them. I mean, come'on! Just add a chin tassle and you'd be looking at Scar!
(Kiara giggling is so kawaii!!!!)
May 11 - 14:44
Location: TKL
E-mail:
I ment he's older then I thought!
sorry for the mistake!
we are one
May 11 - 14:23
Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk
Matthew Broderick is not OLD! I'm a couple of weeks older than he is, and I have two daughters, and, all things being equal, I probably have more than half of my life ahead of me... {Grumble, moan}
Bye,
Chris.
May 11 - 14:16
Location: NY
E-mail: eagle1@taconic net
May 11 - 14:11
Location:
E-mail:
Does anyone know of any other songs besides We are One for the sequel?
Later!
May 11 - 13:57
Location:
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dont remind me, I have all of these cool stuff & I cant do anything with them!!!!!!
I cant wait to have my email so I could make that damn (yhea, yhea, sorry....) site!!!!!
we are one
(too bad my email & I are'nt one!!!!)
May 11 - 13:52
Location:
E-mail: LIONWARS@MAILCITY.COM
And from what I seen ,I think were in for a real treat.Although the animation looks a little ruffer.Also it's kind of funny ,but it sort of looked like they made Simba resemble -his dad.
Well those are my opions ,on the song&preview.Thank you forreading.
May 11 - 13:29
Location:
E-mail:
Beerit, is your web page up?
bye everybody!!!!!
May 11 - 13:21
www.lionking.org
Location: Caltech
E-mail: btman@lionking.org
Go to the Simba's Pride section on this site. I've got the "We Are One" clip now in MP3 audio, QuickTime 3.0, and MPEG formats. There's also a link to where to get QuickTime 3.0.
I've also put in a bunch of screen grabs, in case you don't want to download the whole clip.
Brian
May 11 - 13:14
Location: TKL
E-mail:
u can get qt in http://www.apple.com/quicktime/
simba does sound a little.... fatherly? doesnt he? I just found out mathew is... well... old! I thought he was 23-30 or something but he's 36 years old!!!!!!!! now he's age notices in simba. on porpuse? he sounded young on TLK but on SP? ("daddy?......")
I m now preparing what will be the first SP fan art!! sounds cool uh? its kinda like a montage of all kinds of pics! mostly of kiara & kovu. I will download the trailer & add some pics from it & it will be finished! its realy neat! dont wait up, this trailer takes time to load!
p.s. what's with shani? she sounds kinda unasentual, doesnt she? she'd just, kinda..... there....... ummmmm.........
"we are one" is as good as "can u feel the love tonight"! I mean it, I love it!!!! its even better! but simba sounds weird! I hope he sounds the same in the movie itself....
"we will stand by your side...... we are more then what we are, we are one....."
sorry, its playing in the background.......
we are one
May 11 - 12:55
Location:
E-mail:
I took the 'we are one song' in wav.file from Ray
(thanks Ray!) and it doesn't sound bad!! Maybe you need to get used to it, but I like it already!
I like the African vocals in it! It's typical for TLK. In my opinion Simba sounded a little bit too sweat, but hey, after all he IS a father by now!
I now will take down the quick time movie "we are one"... Oh I forgot, I don't have quick time 3.0!!
Does anybody now where I can download the latest version of Quik time movie for free?
THANKS ALOT, ALL OF YOU!!!
Keep on going and talking!
DARA
May 11 - 12:33
Location:
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I TOLD U SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
www.lionking.net does it again!
http://www.lionking.net/clips/moov/weareone-sorenson.mov
is the "we r 1" quick time!!!!!!
I'm not sure if its the WHOLE may 10th trailer, I'm still loading but whatever!
May 11 - 11:50
Location:
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Matt, I can't believe somebody thinks like me, because the hippos are the reason I'm not sure about the sequel! The hippos were way too cutesy, almost (and I shudder at the thought of this) like Land Before Time dinosaurs (I HATE Land Before Time and almost all Don Bluth stuff).
Aside from the awful hippos, the sequel looks like it could be good. "We Are One" sounds better coming from Simba than from Kimberley Scott. The animation isn't as good as the original "Lion King" but did anyone actually think it would be? At least the "Simba's Pride" characters have good coloring and shading that makes them look 3-dimensional.
I was disappointed that so much was not brought up in the preview. I was hoping for a "trailer" so we could see and hear the villainess, Kovu, etc.
I am very interested to see where the movie goes. How will they explain why Kovu looks so much like Scar?
One thing we do now definitely know is that Kovu and Kiara will be shown as kids and adults in the sequel, as we briefly saw adult Kiara (plus, Neve Cambell definitely did not provide the voice of young Kiara in the preview).
I think we need to face the fact that the Sequel will not be as good as the original "Lion King." Jeffrey Katzenberg is gone from Disney, and while his involvement in the original film seems debatable, he was a great trouble-shooter, and could have helped the sequel greatly.
May 11 - 10:41
Retired theatre manager
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
E-mail: memories@transport.com
May 11 - 09:49
Location: Exton, PA
E-mail: panthro@uscom.com
apparently there has been a major rewrite of the
plot, and kovu is no longer scar's son.
i personnally am hoping they change it back.
as for "We Are One" until the QT comes out ive
managed to beat everyone else in posting the audio
version in my meager webspace. :)
addy is http://onramp.uscom.com/~panthro/weareone.wav
enjoy
-Ray
May 11 - 08:56
Location: UK
E-mail:
May 11 - 07:43
TLKfan!!
Location: Norway :-(
E-mail: toreot@hellerud.vgs.no
DAMN!! (please excuse my language..) I live in Norway, and couldn't see the sequel!!
Can someone give a detailed desctiption of it, PLEASE???
I would be very grateful if you would.
P.S: I've gotten some info by reading this page already, but no full descs....
Hakuna Matata all!
May 11 - 07:41
Location: Ngorongoro Crater
E-mail:
If Kovu ( of whom I've seen conflicting info. on) is NOT Scar's son,why does he look so much like him? I mean...geez. Even Margeret Petrie's 'Cub Taka' looks JUST like Kovu, even more reason to think that he IS Scar's son.. /=-|
Er, I'm confused.
Could someone please get me straight on this issue? I mean...
/@ @\
\ o /
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May 11 - 06:34
TLKiaWOL!
Location:
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The sequal looked promising, but i was surprised that the preview they showed didn't pack a whole lotta punch, if you know what I mean. I like the song, but I hope that wasn't the WHOLE song, and that it ends with a little more ooph. Liked a lot of the art, although the cute hippo I coulda done without. Also, will TLK3 be "The Lion Queen?" I really REALLY hope not. Theres plenty of other Disney stories with female leads. I would feel like the story would be stolen from us guys..
It is "The lion KING" after all. I hope Kovu has a strong character. I'm rooting for him.
Dont get me wrong, I'm a fan of lionesses too. Grr.. ;) but you know what I mean.
Neema. Hehe, we met on the muck last night. Now I know why I knew your name!..i got confused. hehe
May 11 - 05:45
Student
Location: Amsterdam
E-mail: 115856@coop.fei.hva.nl
I'm Mark from he Netherlands and I'm a big fan of The Lion King. I just saw some messages about "Simba's Pride." In Holland there's no news about this sequel, so that's why I'm asking you to e-mail me. I want to know everything!!!
Hopefully I get LOTS of mail...
May 11 - 05:40
Location: Maryland,U.S.A
E-mail:
As you go threw life you will see there is so much that we, don't understand.
And the only thing we know is that things don't always go, the way we plan.
But you will see every day that we will never turn away, when it seems all your dreams come undone.
We will stand by your side filled wtih hope and filled with pride.
We are more then we are, we are one.
Chorus
Even those who are gone are with us as we go on.
Your journey has only begun.
Tears of pain, tears of joy.
One thing nothing can destroy, is our pride deep inside we are one.
Chorus
We are one, you and I, we are like the earth and sky.
One family under the sun.
All the wisdom to lead, all the courage that you need, you will find when you see we are one.
pardon my typos and bad spelling.
Enjoy!
May 11 - 05:31
Location: TKL
E-mail:
now I feel realy miserable for not seeing the trailer!!!!!!!!!!!!
(not that I had any choice..... we dont get ABC out here)
but it will probebly come out as a qt (quick time) in www.lionking.net that guy wont let anyone else beat him up in getting the qt of the trailer!
its not up there yet so dont even try. I checked TWICE today! he'd better have it soon!!!!!!!!
so tell me what exsactly was in the tariler?!
did u see ALL the charecters?! did u see the cubs as adults?! was mufasa REALY in the clouds? & if he was, dont u think that disney is going too far with this mistical stuff? I mean, mufasa is everywhere or what? get a life, mufasa! (oops......)
tell me everything!!!!!!!!!!!
p.s. I wrote most of that last messege of mine, I was with my friend & I went out for a sec & he filled the part about not watching SP. dont worry though, he likes TLK he's just kidding......
(he's still in the dungeon, paying for he's dispicable acts....) (:
May 11 - 02:48
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Canada Rocks!
Alex
May 10 - 21:57
Location:
E-mail: neema@lionking.org
Oh gosh! Kiara is so cute! Kovu -- in my friend's opinion -- is hot. She loves him. Yay. :) Anyway, about those two lionesses. I think they were Nala and Sarafina; they looked awful like thenm if you take a closer look. And the cub there was Kiara, tagging along with Nala and Sarafina; or Sarabi. Oh well.
Happy Mother's Day, too.. or, umm.. Happy TLK-hyped Day. That's better. :)
Neema
May 10 - 21:54
Location: Pridelands, California
E-mail: jetrose@earthlink.net
It's here! It's really happening! Kiara is so cute you could just eat her up with a spoon!Kovu is the hansomest little cub! Hey, was that Matthew Brodrick singing? It sure didn't sound like Joseph Williams!AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!! I'm gonna have a heart attack 'n die before October 8!
May 10 - 21:20
Location: Houston, TX
E-mail: Taylor6@ix.netcom.com
May 10 - 20:00
Location:
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May 10 - 19:55
Location: Ann Arbor
E-mail:
about the scene in the preview where Pumbaa, Timon, and Zazu are in front of the two lionesses. It looks like the three are leading them to Pride Rock, and the lionesses didn't look like Nala or Kiara. I think they might be Zira and Vitani.
May 10 - 19:51
Location: Louisiana
E-mail:
May 10 - 19:32
Location: texas
E-mail: LKKing83@aol
BUSA SIMBA!!!!!!
May 10 - 18:52
Location:
E-mail: ldv123@gte.net
(ldv123@gte.net)
May 10 - 18:45
Location: Ngorongoro Crater
E-mail:
Anyways, b4 I go, has anyone seen that part w/Simba, talking to Kiara, and the wildebeest calf getting up? Well, hate to spoil disney's party, but...Simab would be chomping the 'beest, not singing at it. ;)
Oh well. Bye! I will be posting whatever I can find/or whatever I think of. =)
May 10 - 18:43
Bear Paw Productions
Location: Jax, FL
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org
Arctus
May 10 - 18:41
A Big Lion
Location:
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---Cheeko
PS-BTW, I *LIKED* the Aladin sequels!
May 10 - 18:39
Location:
E-mail: msjasin@hotmail.com
May 10 - 18:27
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May 10 - 18:21
Student/music teacher
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
E-mail: pabandchick@hotmail.com
Thanks for your time and space to put my ramblings!
-Nancy
May 10 - 18:17
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Kara
May 10 - 18:17
Location: Michigan
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May 10 - 18:16
Location: Philly!
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They did show about two scenes with Kovu, but nothing really to show anything about his character. I'm real confused about whether he's supposed to be Scar's kid or not. Oh well, I guess I'll have to wait to see the movie before I'll know.
May 10 - 18:08
Location: Texas
E-mail: LKKing83@aol.com
May 10 - 18:06
Location: Pridelands, California
E-mail: jetrose@earthlink.net
Alright! Three hours and counting!
Simba's Pride,here I come!
hmm...actually,I should be spending time with my mom,seeing it is Mother's Day.(sigh)Lion King.Mom. Lion King.Mom.Lion King.Mom.
LION KING!!!!!
May 10 - 15:55
A Big Lion
Location:
E-mail:
Anyways, I guess they changed up the sequel bigtime, huh? I read in Disney Adventures a long time ago that Simba's daughter was Shani and SCAR'S SON was Kovu. Weird, huh? They must've changed it up pretty good....
5 minutes.........
Whoppee, it started!!!!!!!
C-ya'll guys when it's done!!!!!!
---Cheeko
May 10 - 15:52
Location:
E-mail: neema@lionking.org
--- Neema
May 10 - 15:51
Location:
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I'm very curious and yet very afraid of what you'll see. Maybe it's not as great as we are all expecting.. I do hope it is great for Disney makes a lot of "noise" about it. They have had, in my opinion, enough time to create SP. Most of the sequels will come within 2 years or so...
Do you know what I think? I think that the only reason that it took them so long to release SP is that they had to wait for the opening of Disney latest park: Animal Kingdom. A sequel of the Lion King is of course a great publicity stunt...
I hope I'm wrong, but that explanes perhaps why it took Disney so long to release the sequel.
But, let's not spoil the whole thing!!! I'm curious and everybody will know it!!!!!!!
Tell me everything you saw!!!!!!
Dara
May 10 - 13:18
Location:
E-mail: bankster@msn.com
amira
May 10 - 11:04
A Big Lion
Location:
E-mail:
AUUUUUUUUUUGH, DON'T THINK I KIN MAKE IT!!!!!!
Come on, day, hurry, hurry, hurry........
~Cheeko
May 10 - 07:31
Location: TKL
E-mail: hint: The K Lands
ummmmm.........
yhea...............................
to all the other people:
I know, I know, I write here alot......
its just that I keep forgeting to say stuff & I have to write here again.......
now, as I said, my site will not be up in the near future.... ))));
anyway, I want to take the oportunity to say:
I will not see the SP movie..........
I will be able to, but I just..... won't..........
I have comed to the conclusion that it will probably be a miserable excuse for TLK.....
(how unfortunate......)
but there r people that wont watch it couse they have their OWN ideas about the sequal of TLK & they're afraid that it will ruind they're stories....... kinda like an SP just in your mind. & that expresses in fan fic! but that is not why u should'nt watch it! SP is kinda like a....... colorfull....... fan fic........ ((:
its disney's fan fic. & it doesnt make the other fan fics WRONG! that's how I see it.....
p.s. Tumai is the coolest name for simba's son I've ever heard! (if I could only remember WHERE I heard it.......) (;
May 10 - 06:27
Location: UK And Not Happy About It
E-mail:
May 10 - 05:54
Location:
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May 9 - 20:06
Location:
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May 9 - 19:24
Location: Texas
E-mail: LKKing83@aol.com
May 9 - 16:16
Bear Paw Productions
Location: Jax Beach
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org
Is that 7:00pm EST?
Arctus
May 9 - 15:42
Location:
E-mail: bankster@msn.com
People, get ready.......but remember, don't blow your nerve when it comes on. You might get hyper and then completely forget that you all wanted to record it. Believe me, its a very common tale...
see ya
May 9 - 15:09
Location:
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May 9 - 13:48
Location:
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May 9 - 12:33
Location:
E-mail:
http://www.lionking.net/coolstuff/simbapride/lionkingmay10-sorenson.mov
which is the whole SP trailer
http://www.lionking.net/coolstuff/simbapride/simbapride-sorenson.mov
http://www.lionking.net/coolstuff/simbapride/simbaspride-cinepak.mov
which r two little cuts from the big trailer up there, only they're in differant sizes!
now for my question!!!
will u see the cubs as adults in SP?!
I mean, in all the pics on the web they were cubs, did'nt disney reliease pics of them as adults? they're voices r played by adults!
that's weird........
so tell me why the may 10th trailer is so special!
what will u see new in it?!
I hope it will come out as a quick time file!
well, bye for now!
p.s. some usefull words in swahili for my public:
beautiful/good-zuri
brave-hodari
power-kudura
fire-mioto
cool, uh?
May 9 - 12:31
Location:
E-mail:
DAMN! we dont get ABC on my country!
mmmmm..... maybe we do! I'll have to check it!
but what time is it on?!
p.s. I'm sorry to inform u that my site will NOT go up in the near future... );
technical probs. ));
bummer, uh? )));
May 9 - 12:05
Location: Utica, New York
E-mail: MadGmr@aol.com
May 9 - 10:51
Location: Uuuhhhhhmmmmmmmm....
E-mail:
my whole family knows about the SP thing because I can't keep quiet about it.
I'll be taping! and of course watching, too.
Nightwolf
May 9 - 07:32
Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk
Let's just get a few things straight about Simba's Pride. Firstly the release date: it is officially confirmed as 27th October 1998, of that there is no doubt. So, where did the 8th October come from? Well, I have traced it back to a rumour on this very site, from 'Rachel': "I saw a promo on FLUBBER with Timon and Pumba talking. They say "Hey, where is that music comming from?' "Does this mean there is another Lion King movie comming?" then it says "SIMBAS PRIDE: October 8th" It doesn't show any new animation or anything, but at least the rumors are true." The problem was that the 'promo' in question didn't actually give a precise date, just that SP was coming in October 1998 and nothing more, the 8th was never there at all....
Kiara doesn't mean anything thing in Swahili, as for that matter does Timon. It doesn't have too, there is no rule that states that all SP names have to be derived from Swahili. As far as I can tell Kiara is a not-uncommon name and is Asian in origin - there are a few tigers in zoos called named Kiara. Personally I like the name despite whatever origins it might, or might not, have.
Now then, so far in promo material we have seen Simba and his daughter Kiara in animation and Kovu in stills. There has been no hint of any other daughter (i.e. Shani). What we DO know is that various acters and actresses have said, at one time or another, that they have 'done a voice for Simba's Pride.'. While these comments are almost certainly true, they do not mean that the characters they voiced will be in Simba's Pride as is to be released (BTW there is some hearsay evidence that it is now finished and, presumably, ready for release). There is no actual evidence of there being two daughters, though we cannot yet rule it out as a possibility, however the balance of evidence is swinging away it.
Official sources, thus presumably reliable sources give the following as SOME of the cast members. That means that there ARE others, but so far there is no evidence to tell precisely who:
Simba: Matthew Broderick
Kiara: Neve Campbell (no mention of a singing voice...)
Zira: Suzanne Pleshette (no mention of Kathleen Turner, despite whatever what she apparently said on recent television appearances)
Timon & Pumbaa: Nathan Lane & Ernie Sabella
Rafiki: Robert Guillaume
Mufasa: James Earl Jones (yes, Mufasa makes some sort of appearance - voice, cloud, flashback - who can tell?)
That's all we know for sure, anything else is just speculation at this stage.
The animation. I have seen the trailor for the TLK screening on the 10th May. I have seen the 'Simba nuzzles Kiara' snippet and frankly there's not much to go on a far as quality is concerned. How can anyone judge 80 minutes or so of film from less than five seconds? Keep an open mind and an open heart - I could see little to be 'worried' about, let's withhold any judgements until we have had a chance to see a decent length clip, at the very least.
Bye,
Chris.
PS: Yes, Carl I saw you're back, and no, I've not forgotten you at all, indeed I've been worried about what might have happened to you. Give me a e-mail sometme, and run up ICQ too....
May 9 - 02:22
Location: Texas
E-mail: LKKing83@aol.cpm
May 8 - 17:02
Location:
E-mail:
I looked for the names of the new characters of SP and this is what I found:
Zira means hate
Shani means startling thing
Kovu means Scar (surprise surprise as if you didn't know that...)
binti means daughter
I couldn't find Kiara... maybe someone else does know what it means....
O Yes... just before I forget to say it...
RECORDERS STAND-BY!!! IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THE 10TH OF MAY!!! DON'T MISS IT!
...But of course, I didn't need to say it.
Hakuna Matata!!!
Dara
May 8 - 13:05
Location:
E-mail:
Gotta go, bye.
May 8 - 12:17
Location: flowerbed
E-mail:
lily
May 8 - 12:00
A Big Lion
Location:
E-mail:
http://www.lionking.net/coolstuff/simbapride/simbapride-sorenson
~Your average leonine, Cheeko
May 8 - 08:13
hakuna matata!
Location: here!
E-mail: LauraMcDan@aol.com
If I'm not mistaken, "Welcome to Our World" was written by Lebo M. for the 1995 production "People" which comemerated the UN's 50th anniversary. The song is available on the soundtrack, which is sometimes hard to find, but I have a copy of it. I hope that helps!
--Laura McDaniel
May 7 - 20:36
Location:
E-mail:
I hope you accept my apoligy; I am so stupid!! (lol)
Janet
May 7 - 15:18
Location: TKL
E-mail:
u can find it in
http://www.yale.edu/swahili/
and for my site, it will
have all kinds of cool stuff!
I NEVER stop searching for new SP stuff
It should be open tommorow
or the day after that.... it will
be named "TKL online"...
I will have all kinds of fan art
(MINE!!!) and TLK animated gifs...
this site has some of them here
(in the animated gif section)
but not all of them... by the way,
brien, I will send u the "gifs2"
zip as soon as I'm done fixing my email...
but I guess u will come just for the
SP stuff so I wont say anymore about the
other stuff...
I hope u like my site!
p.s. I'm a girl.
May 6 - 21:57
A Big Lion
Location:
E-mail:
~Your average leonine, Cheeko
May 6 - 19:11
Location:
E-mail:
I agree with you Dara, on everything you said. I ALSO think that Pissed Off should probably get a NEW name...heh, heh, heh...
Hakuna Matata!
P.S. When beerit gets his SP web page up, I wonder what maybe (if he has a picture of her) Shani might look like. All this time we've been looking at pictures of KIARA and not her sister.
May 6 - 10:53
Location:
E-mail:
Actually, I don't know what 'Pissed off' is talking about... buy a cd it's more easy. By the way, taking down those MPEG-3 files costs money too I think? Never mind.
I hope you with the SP sites will go searching for a lot of SP-pics!!
Wow, isn't it great?!
May 6 - 10:36
Location: TKL (I know that its TLK and if u want to know why I write TKL just come to my site!)
E-mail: TLK_SP@mailcity.com
u know, your KINDA right.
the net is the openest place in the world.
but I DIDNT buy a cd a few days ago couse I got it all on mp3........
is that fair to the band?
anyhow.......
I agree that mathew brodrick (or however he's named) has a cool voice, but dont get so excited, you'll HURT yourself!
and for other and BETTER news.
I had collected many SP pics (including some from the movie itself!!) and I will soon open a site with them! that will rule for most of u guys, uh?
May 6 - 08:22
Location: Very Mad Central
E-mail:
May 6 - 08:06
Location:
E-mail:
chill!!!!!
u can get TONS of mp3's on www.lionking.net!
May 6 - 07:21
Location: Rainy and wet Rialto
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com
On the other side note, I bet a lot of you loved those African lyrics? I know I did so I am here to make people more aware of Lebo M. and who he is. If you don't know who he is then I've got news for you, you NEED to know! I'm making a reveiw of The Lion King music and what I've heard of Simba's Pride. It is very lengthy and hopefully BT will put it on his page. If you want to know about Lebo than go to www.bdpr.com for a bio, or go to, hold on, I'll finish this in a sec.
Alicia
May 5 - 22:59
student
Location: Greece
E-mail:
May 5 - 05:56
Location: Very Mad Central
E-mail:
........THOSE BASTARDS HAVE GOT TO PAY........
May 5 - 05:41
Oldenburg Systems
Location: USA
E-mail: runtime@enc-1.com
p.s. Chris Boyce, you remember me? I'm back!! :)
May 4 - 16:52
Location: elephant graveyard
E-mail:
May 4 - 16:42
Bear Paw Productions
Location: Going to FL
E-mail: arctus@lionking.org
Just my two cents...
Arctus
May 4 - 15:43
Location:
E-mail: bankster@msn.com
I hope I didn't make you feel bad or anything.
Busa!
May 4 - 15:21
Location: Pacific NW
E-mail: aardwulf@geocities.com
www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1888/busa.html
Ah-heh...enjoy. ;)
May 3 - 19:38
Location: United States
E-mail:
May 3 - 12:38
www.lionking.org
Location: Caltech
E-mail: btman@lionking.org
http://www.lionking.org/simbaspride
Brian
May 3 - 11:39
Metallica
Location: Wherever I May Roam
E-mail: jaymzlarz@aol.com
This is definetly authentic. You can fake drawings, paintings, etc, but you CANNOT fake animation this fluid unless you're really crazy. Well, speak for yourselves.
May 3 - 11:33
my tree
Location: Pride Lands
E-mail: mmm... don't need one
Your are wise, but not that wise.... (I admit even I could't answer all the questions)
Asante Sana!
Rafiki
May 2 - 13:33
Location:
E-mail:
As to how I found them, well, I was just cruisin' through some TLK sites & stumbled across 'em.
Hope that helps ev'ryone. Bye.
May 2 - 12:35
Location:
E-mail: bankster@msn.com
Blackfox, thanx for the postcard! That's okay if you can't get on the computer very much. See you around!
Bye
May 2 - 11:43
Location:
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I was in Barnes and Noble Bookstore the other day and came across a "Frasier" book for $1.98. In that book, which I bought, there is some information on actress Jane Leeves, who plays Daphne Moon on "Frasier." In an interview in the book, Leeves mentions her role as the ladybug in "James and the Giant Peach" and also says that she will provide the voice of a little bird who is friends with Simba in the upcoming Lion King Video sequel.
Does anyone know if this bird was part of the "old" story, or if the character is still slated to be in the sequel? So much has changed over the past few years, that I guess it is not definite that Jane Leeves' bird character will make it into the movie.
By the way, Rafiki's nephew in the "Timon and Pumbaa" series was "Nefu," a name not given as a choice in that Lion King quiz below.
May 2 - 11:15
Location: N Y
E-mail: eagle1@taconic net
May 2 - 07:14
Location: CA
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com
2. What does the name "Nala" mean?
A) Drink B) Great Female Elephant C) My mother lives on in me
8. In the Broadway musical, the woman who plays Rafiki sings a song in her home language, who is she and what language is she singing in?
A) Tsidii Le Loka, Sesotho B) Tsidii Le Loka, Tswana C) Nandi Morake, Zulu
12. In the Timon and Pumbaa show, what was Rafiki's apprentice's name?
A) Nefere B) Sen C) Bititoes
There they are. 3 questions, unchanged from the original .txt go ahead and answer them, I doubt many of you will get all 3 right.
Alicia :)
May 1 - 19:39
Location:
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Well, that's it. Hope it helps. Bye.
May 1 - 19:03
Location:
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It's booked til about the middle of 1999 or the end. Sorry. I'm going -- hopefully -- this December.. but, I donno. I'll tell y'all about it...
In Other News -- or whatever.. :>
Sorry people, no information on Simba's Pride. I'll just tune into May 10 and try to dig out some stuff if I can find anything. :>
Neema
May 1 - 17:38
Location: pride lands
E-mail:
May 1 - 16:38
Location: SA
E-mail: ALehman302@aol.com
May 1 - 15:40
Location: NC
E-mail: cwingerson@aol.com
I hate to build up unrealistic expectations for others, but prepare yourself, folks. This show blew me away so far and so high that I don't know if I've come down yet.
We were seated in the warthog section (there were three others), third row, and there was excitement in the air. Let me tell you where this excitement was coming from. The folks seating us and talking to us. The show had not even started, and you could already feel something special was about to happen.
The four lead singers came out and started with "Welcome to Our World," a neat little song that I wish would be released somewhere. They all had awesome voices and fantastic personalities. Then the floats came out. Kids cheered. Adults craned their necks for a better view. Toes were tapping. My heart was stirring.
This might be the time to tell you that this was *not* a re-telling of "The Lion King." That would be The *Legend* of the Lion King, a show at WDW's Magic Kingdom. This was The *Festival* of the Lion King, and the feeling was completely different. The songs were all sung, but there was a more showy, celebratory feel to it. And it was great. There were dancers, singers, stilt-walkers, high-flying monkeys. And the birds! A lady in a bird costume flying right there above our heads!
The costumes! Light airy fabrics blowing everywhere. Colors lighting up the stage begging to be looked at.
The music! I'm a *huge* fan of Lion King type music anyway. These slightly altered versions, heighted by the fantastic singers, blow away the original film music. It is much like the Lion King Broadway music. African rhythms, flowing costumes, smiling faces, swaying audiences. This was one awesome moment after another. Are there breaks between the songs? I didn't notice, as it seemed to flow so seemlessly together.
The audience was invited to participate in the singing of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight." Everyone was getting into it. Everyone. The excitement level was so high that, by the finale (a medley of all songs going into the end of "Circle of Life") everyone in the auditorium was staring, wide-mouthed, at the huge ensemble singing, dancing, and flying all at once. "Cirle of Life" never seemed so beautiful or as fitting as at the end of this performance.
Have I said enough? I can't possibly communicate the power and sheer brilliance of this show and the impact it had on me that day. This was *the* high point of the day and the trip.
As an aside, let me tell you that I am *the* biggest fan of the Jungle Cruise and Pirates of the Caribbean. These have been my favorite parts of WDW for so long I can't remember liking anything else. Festival of the Lion King blows them away. It has become, far and away, my #1 favorite thing in all of the World, and moment after moment to be savored.
May 1 - 11:14
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Location: Finland
E-mail: Simba83@lionking.org
I was just wondering... will the preview of TLK 2 on may 10th be recorded to a *.mov or *.avi... or does anyone have cool pics of TLK 2 ??
Please tell where to get some TLK 2 info !!
I would really be happy about it!
Simba83
May 1 - 02:08
Location:
E-mail: goatone@ix.netcom.com
could you send them to me? I'd really appreciate it if you could. And there's also talk of
Simba having 2 cubs. I thought that would be really neat, and more realistic, in the fact that,
real lions usually have more than one cub, and in the case of the Lion King, both sets of
parents happened to have only 1 cub that just somehow happened to be male. I thought
it was good that Disney made the cub female. Now, if Disney did make a TLK3.......
Apr 30 - 14:43
There
Location: Here
E-mail:
Apr 30 - 12:00
Location: Australia
E-mail: spots@one.net.au
But there was one part in the movie where simba is older and he lives with timon and pumbaa and it's the part were Nala finds him and it's at night time and Simba is by him self on the edge of a cliffe and he calapses and a lot of dust (white stuff) goes up into the air and three simple letters are formed into a word: sex is the word it spells out.
To actually see it if you have the video you have to freeze frame it (slow motion).
that was a bit shocking, like it's a disney film and disney is for families with young children and young people and also older people.
Angie
Apr 30 - 00:29
Location:
E-mail: bttfp4@aol.com
Apr 29 - 17:59
Location:
E-mail: bankster@msn.com
Well, you know what to do....spread the rumors around!
Kwaheri!
Apr 29 - 17:18
Location: nowhere.....
E-mail:
Hakuna Matata!
Janet
Apr 29 - 12:18
Full-time Lion King Fan (and college student)
Location: Wonderful Hawaii (you can really live Hakuna Matata here)
E-mail: iluvronco@hotmail.com
Can someone put me in suspended animation until October 8, then have a copy of SP waiting for me when I'm revived?
Christian
Apr 29 - 06:26
None.
Location: Earth
E-mail: n/a
Will the Lion King II come out for DVD?
cause if it does, it will be DVD+ HDTV for me :)
Apr 28 - 19:39
Location:
E-mail: yamook@juno.com
Thanx!
Apr 28 - 17:41
Simba's Royal Cosmotologist
Location: Duh!!
E-mail: sean@schoollink.net
Remember...Love is the key!
In all things.
Sean
Apr 27 - 20:42
No A.B.C inc.
Location: no A.B.C. land
E-mail: runtime@enc-1.com
thanks.
Runtime
Apr 27 - 19:37
Location:
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Oh, and on the Simba's Pride site, it says that Zira wants revenge on Simba for killing Scar. But didn't Simba just flip Scar off of Priderock, and then the /hyenas/ killed him?
Bye!
Vitani
P.S. I got the name 'Vitani' off of the SP site....does anybody know what her part is in the movie?
Apr 27 - 16:13
Location:
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Apr 27 - 14:59
Location:
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I thought the "We Are One" song was good, and I was glad Kimberley Scott's voice sounded like an adult's. When I first learned that an 11 year old was singing the song, I envisioned, with horror, a little "Star-Search" blonde girl singing a Lion King song. To my surprise, it wasn't that bad, though some of her singing sounded like the Muses in Disney's Hercules (I hated Hercules!).
Some of you may have wondered why none of the Lion King floats featuring Audio-Animatronic Lion King characters from Animal Kingdom's Festival of the Lion King show appeared in the special. A possible reason for this is that the Animal Kingdom's pathways were not designed to support typical Disney parade floats.
Be sure to set your VCR's for ABC, May 10th!
Apr 27 - 11:11
Location:
E-mail: bankster@msn.com
I think if Disney wants to make a TLK sequel, then they'll have to stick with two TLK movies, and no more.
Bye.
Apr 27 - 10:45
Location:
E-mail:
You're making me sooooo nervous and excited!!
I can't receive ABC so pleasssse, tell me everything you'll see!!!!! The characters, the voices, the way they look like, the kind of animals, etc., etc.
Tell me, tell me, tell me!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!!!!!
Dara
Apr 27 - 10:37
Simba's Pride Rumer Finder
Location: Baytown,Tx
E-mail: TikiKoyote@aol.com
***Now that Simba's Pride is comming, Disney will milk it, but I heard something on the Disney thing last night that made me think....Will there be TLK:3??? It said "The legend continues..." so that makes me think they will drag this story out more, like they did to Aladin. What do you guys think?***
Apr 27 - 06:13
Location: UK
E-mail: RHHitMan@AOL.com
http://www.lionking.org/~prowl/mpeg/spride2.mpg
enjoy
Rick
Apr 27 - 02:49
Location:
E-mail:
Alicia
Lion King Know-It-All
Apr 26 - 22:53
Location: Where Else but CA
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com
Alicia Miller
The OFFICIAL Queen of The Lion King.
Apr 26 - 21:42
The Biggest TLK Fan Ever
Location: Los Banos, CA
E-mail:
Yes, Yes, Yes! I can't stop shouting!
Apr 26 - 20:19
Location:
E-mail:
Y'all -- watch TLK on May 11th or 10th; there will be Simba's Pride scenes! I saw one when Kiara was nuzzling Simba; she looked like young Nala with Simba's fur coloration. :)
Neema
PS: That girl on Animal Kingdom is a horrible singer in my opinion. The song is cool. I like this part:
When dreams subside, I will be by your side.
..something like that. :> I'm going nuts. I was dancing around the house and calling all my friends.. ;)
Apr 26 - 20:01
Location: somewhere....
E-mail:
Guys, you're right about Kimberly! She sounds so much like Whitney Housten!!
P.S. Does anyone here love John Travolta?
Bye.
Apr 26 - 19:58
Location:
E-mail:
Apr 26 - 17:52
Location:
E-mail: goatone@ix.netcom.com
I don't know anything about it, but, like many others, I've seen the preview on the Animal Kingdom show about May 10th
and I'll be watching for the unseen animation and SP clips. I was blown away he first time I heard about the sequel,
and have been anticipating its arrival ever since. I can't wait to see it!
Apr 26 - 17:40
Location:
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Apr 26 - 17:02
Location: unknown
E-mail: don't need one
Apr 26 - 16:58
Location:
E-mail:
Oh my gosh, they just said on TV that when they air TLK on ABC they'll show clips from SP too!
Apr 26 - 16:54
Location: unknown
E-mail: don't have one
Apr 26 - 14:38
Location:
E-mail: bankster@msn.com
I downloaded that TLK2 promo, and guess what? It is the same logo that is on "Flubber"!!
Dang it.....all that for nothin'.....
See ya.
Apr 26 - 12:36
LionKing FAN and Collector
Location: Baytown,Tx
E-mail: TikiKoyote@AOL.com
It's comming out October 8, 1998....but....what we don't know if it's in the movies or on video.
I saw a promo on FLUBBER with Timon and Pumba talking. They say "Hey, where is that music comming from?' "Does this mean there is another Lion King movie comming?" then it says "SIMBAS PRIDE: October 8th" It doesn't show any new animation or anything, but at least the rumors are true.
Hey....you know how throughout the LionKing movie and the soundtrack the african singers sing songs in another language? (Like when Simba is running back to priderock?) I can only make out a few words translated, but does anyone know what they are singing about?
Ohhhh...BTW,you know the LK Mucks? I need to talk to some players, or anyone with info on them because when I try to join them, it usually won't let me in and I don't know where to go to play. If anyone has any answers for any of these questions, please contact me at: TikiKoyote@AOL.com Thanks!
Apr 26 - 11:29
www.lionking.org
Location: Caltech
E-mail: btman@lionking.org
You can download it either as MPEG (http://www.lionking.org/~prowl/mpeg/sp.mpg) or QuickTime (http://www.lionking.org/movies/SP-Preview.mov).
Brian
Apr 26 - 00:43
Location: PA
E-mail: Avalon1024@aol.com
Sincerely
Avalon
Apr 25 - 23:25
Location:
E-mail:
Ya know what was interesting, my mom was looking at the stars and was like "what exactly are stars?" and the first think that came out of my mouth was Pumbaa's definition in TLK. I don't know if she believed me. Later, Cyberpride!
Apr 25 - 19:55
Location: S. CA
E-mail: SimbaLK714@aol.com
From, Rob
Apr 25 - 15:31
Location:
E-mail:
Why in the world would Disney advertise SP when they go ahead and make changes?! I think the biography is old -- or something like that. ..this is getting annoying and confusing, huh?
Neema
Apr 25 - 15:06
Location: somewhere.....
E-mail:
Whenever I think of Nuka, a basketball pops into my head....I know, I know, it sounds dumb....
I'm so glad that Kovu will be picked instead! (I hope)
No news from SP....(grrrr!!!!!) Oh well....
TLKiaWOL!!!!
Apr 25 - 14:34
Location:
E-mail: bankster@msn.com
Rick, I downloaded that SP thingy you said to me eariler, but while it was downloading it stopped at 73. What the heck is going on here???
P.S. Blackfox, what do you mean by "TLK code"...?? Please e-mail me again so you can tell me more.
Bye.
Apr 25 - 14:27
Location:
E-mail:
A recent bio on Andy Dick says that he'll be the voice of Nimka, Scar's Son, in Simba's Pride.
I have no idea if the reporter made an error and wrote down old news, or what. There's still mention of "Nuka" on the Simba's Pride site that has pictures, so who knows?
Apr 25 - 13:27
Kid
Location: Texas
E-mail: clinza@yahoo.mail
Everybody else: Yeah, I guess they would make a Simba's pride video game instead. We can write them about that. >:) <- Evily grinning smilie.
Does anybody here like the game StarFox64? Mail me about it. I could chat with you, but my computer isn't running so well right now.
Apr 25 - 11:50
Location: UK
E-mail: RHHtiMan@AOL.com
Hakuna Matata
Rick
Apr 25 - 10:43
Student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_panther80@yahoo.com
and for the third time,, is it possible that the musical will do a world tour that will take closer to my country,, maybe even to it??
Apr 25 - 10:37
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ARRRRGGGHHHH!!!! WHAT SHOULD I DO?????
I'm so aggravated.
See ya later.
Apr 24 - 19:59
Location: N.Y.
E-mail: eagle1@ taconic net
Apr 24 - 17:23
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Apr 24 - 11:06
Location: UK
E-mail: RHHITMAN@AOL.COM
www.lionking.org/~prowl/mpeg/sp.mpg
Go now if you havn not already, it was hard work getting it so please see it.
Apr 24 - 04:50
Location: Rioty Rialto
E-mail: LKQUEEN@ aol.com
On the side note, remember that beginning voice that began as the sun rose in the movie? That was Lebo M and he's gonna be on the Wild Kingdom special on ABC. I'm taping it!
Alicia Miller
PS: There could be a performance of "We Are One" if Lebo performs it. Also, do you think you are the king or queen of Lion King? If so email me and I'll send you some questions on the Lion King movie which have NEVER been asked before! Oh, Lion King Celebration is now at the Wild Kingdom.
Apr 23 - 20:53
Location:
E-mail: yamook@juno.com
Tlk 2..exept the preveiws on Flubber...
If you have any info:
email me at yamook@juno.com
Thanx!
Apr 23 - 16:00
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E-mail:
Apr 23 - 14:40
Location:
E-mail: babyt333@aol.com
Apr 23 - 09:13
Location: UK
E-mail: RHHitMan@AOL.com
www.lionking.org/~prowl/mpeg/sp.mpg
Apr 23 - 08:04
N/A
Location: http://www.tilehill.ac.uk
E-mail: 9700152@mail.tilehill.ac.uk
Apr 23 - 01:51
Location:
E-mail: RHHitMan@AOL.com
www.lionking.org/~prowl/mpeg/sp.mpg
Apr 23 - 00:10
Location: somewhere...
E-mail:
Also, Neema, I've already been to your site, and it looks pretty nifty! Just one problem though, on the characters's page, something's wrong with uploading the images. They won't show up or something....
I hope I don't miss that ''lion king'' parade thingy on May 10! I'm gonna record it!!!
Bye.
Apr 22 - 19:58
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Apr 22 - 16:37
STAR Corporation
Location: Albany, OR
E-mail: donjoh01@interserv.com
Apr 22 - 13:03
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Oh, Ducky, that Mummies Alive thing is some show on syndication (local TV). Funny though, I didn't think that Disney was behind it.
Hate to ramble, bye.
Apr 22 - 12:26
student
Location: Greece
E-mail:
Apr 22 - 11:43
Location:
E-mail: bankster@msn.com
P.S. Sorry about my sister saying she saw a SP preview on ''flubber''. She got so excited, she nearly blew it. I'm going to tell her to never write here again...
See ya.
Apr 22 - 11:25
Location:
E-mail: just ask me
Apr 22 - 04:40
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Apr 21 - 20:03
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Apr 21 - 19:25
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Just in case you wanted to know (Ya, right=)
Apr 21 - 17:58
Location:
E-mail: Bankster@msn.com
Hope I didn't confuse you.
Bye
Apr 21 - 16:57
Location:
E-mail: Bankster@msn.com
THERE IS A SP PREVIEW ON ''FLUBBER''!!
It says that the movie is definately coming out in October, so keep your eyes peeled, everyone!!!
Amira
Apr 21 - 15:26
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Apr 21 - 14:54
Location: Somewhere
E-mail: tmontgom@mail.coin.missouri.edu
The address to the page you mentioned is:
http://www.crosswinds.net/columbia-mo/~wdisney/Future/SimbaPride.htm
Apr 21 - 14:53
Location: N.Y.
E-mail: eagle1@ taconic net
Apr 21 - 14:35
Location: Philly!
E-mail:
Go Lion King!
Apr 21 - 13:38
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there WAS a detailed preview for both aladin sequals. I remember them clearly. Although, being secretive about movies is the "in" thing nowadays..so who can say what Disney will show us in any other previews of TLK2? I wonder if the preview showed up on Flubber..which was just released. I thought releasing it on Rocketman first was a bit anti-climatic.but ahh well.
Apr 21 - 06:26
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A Soundtrack WAS released for the "Aladdin" sequels. Yes, there is a CD that has music from BOTH sequels. I would bet you any amount of money that Simba's Pride will have a CD.
Apr 20 - 17:55
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Apr 20 - 14:37
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Apr 20 - 13:51
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I found out about what Chris was telling us.
About the "we are one" song at Disney's Animal Kingdom opening.
I read something about it at:
http://pages.prodigy.com/lampwick/ak39.htm
Then: Disney Animal Kingdom: First Adventure
It has a lot more info about Disney's newest park.
Bye!!
Dara
Apr 20 - 12:30
Location:
E-mail: Sorry, my parents are SOOOO paranoid ;)
O.K I love you bye-bye!
Apr 20 - 12:22
Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk
"We are One" is to be featured as the finale on an hour long special to be aired on Disney channel on 26th April. It's a tie in to the opening of the Animal Kingdom park (or whatever it's called). CoL will start the show. "We are One" is to be sung by Kimberly Scott, who despite being just 11 can really sing (so they say...)
Be sure to set your VCRs correctly. I can't see it, so I'll leave that to you all.
Bye,
Chris.
Apr 20 - 10:00
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Neve will do the adult voice I think. Remember the pictures that are available? They show us a young Kiara with a young Kovu! When they finally do fall in love I think it's logical that they will be at least teenagers, er... don't you think?...
o.k. that's it for now!
Bye!!
Dara
Apr 20 - 09:33
I go to school, is that enough?
Location: Tampa, FL
E-mail:
1. Is there going to be a "Simba's Pride" soundtrack? I'm just wondering because there wasnt one for the 2 Aladdin sequels(I wouldnt of bought them if there were cause the music kinda sucked)
2. I read the rumor mill all threw and it talked about a song called "We Are One" but this was along time ago, is this song still gonna be played cause I know it took a total re-wright and stuff so I wasnt sure.
3. What type of animals are Zira's offsiders?
Thanx if you can help me with this, I appresiate it!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 19 - 18:35
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Apr 19 - 16:09
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Maybe Simba and Nala will have Kiara at the beginning of SP, and then Shani will be born in the middle of the movie! Ya know, like, all the sudden Kiara finds out that she has a little sister.
Could that be????? *g*
Apr 19 - 12:40
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Speaking of that, there might not be a detailed simbas pride preview at all. there wasnt one for "aladdin and the king of theives"(atleast, i dont remember seeing one) but there was one in the little booklet you get of the new vidios coming out w/ every vidio you get. Maybe instead of the preview being on the tape, it will be in the little booklet, or maybe if were lucky, bothÜ
Apr 19 - 11:52
Location:
E-mail: neema@lionking.org
It;s obvious that Kovu is good -- right? He starts out being a bad guy, in my opinion, and then falls in love with Kiara/Shani...and becomes a good guy. I donno, but that's what I think will happen.
ALSO, on the Lacey Chalbert thing: I think the page about her is way out-dated; I think there is just Kiara, not Shani. Wouldn't the two daughters get into some kind of sibling rivalry about Kovu and stuff? That would change the whole plot -- again, in MY opinion -- with two daughters.
Ciao all.
Neema
Apr 19 - 11:11
student
Location: Greece
E-mail:
Apr 19 - 03:12
Location: Home
E-mail: sean@schoollink.net
In response to your post, let me say I'm glad your enthusiastic about SP coming out. However, I don't think the first line of your post was called for...Because as far as I'm concerned The Lion King IS God!!
PS Don't take me too seriously...no one else does:)
Apr 18 - 18:50
Location: The k lands
E-mail: zodiak.sim@mailcity.com
get out already?!
I'm melting here or something!
I dont want to watch the the preview couse
I want to be surprised when I actually watch it!
although the TEMPTETION is BIIIG!!!!!!
Where can I find images & info about SP?
(hay, I may want to be surprised, but I aint stupid!) (:
and is scar's son good or bad? I read that he was raised to revenge simba, but he is in love with his daughter? what's going on here?!
by the way, is it true that simba is going to die in SP?!?!?!
if it is, its gonna be sadder then mufasa's death! & that was SAD!!!!!
well, I'll wait & see......
p.s. u know of course that I WONT be able to resist my self if the preview will be available to me, right? (:
Apr 18 - 16:05
Here
Location: Yeah...
E-mail: NO WAY!
Apr 18 - 09:10
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Apr 18 - 08:56
Location:
E-mail: Bankster@msn.com
I was looking on some new information about SP, and found out that there MIGHT be a preview on ''Flubber''(?). Is this true? I have no idea at all.
Oh, by the way....I saw a SP preview on the Disney Channel last night.
See ya.
Apr 18 - 08:52
Location:
E-mail: neema@lionking.org
Neema
Apr 17 - 21:16
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Thought I'd clear that up. Bye.
P.S. My bro told me first that there was a preview on it (he must have watched the whole movie), so I popped it in last night & must have watched that SP preview 4 or 5 times & didn't watch the "feature presentation." :)
Apr 17 - 20:41
Location:
E-mail: neema@lionking.org
Yup-- there's a movie called Rocketman. I've seen it. It's about some stupid guy who goes to Mars. Woohoo. It's sort of-- hrmm--/dumb/. =) Anyway; that was just to get this Rocketman thing cleared up. No info on S.P. Oh well.. aahh, knowing that we all know when S.P will come out is all I care. =)
Neema
Oh, oh! My Simba's Pride page is finally up! Yahoo!
www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/8909/
That's all, folks! Or should I say..insane TLK fans? =)
Apr 17 - 16:40
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Apr 17 - 15:57
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Apr 17 - 14:37
Location:
E-mail: Bankster@msn.com
Thanx Snowy for telling all of us that there is a SP preview on ''Rocketman''!!!!! I can't wait to see it!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!
...Oh, boy...I have a terrible headache...I shouldn't have screamed...
Apr 17 - 12:21
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Apr 17 - 11:38
Location: The k lands
E-mail:
letters in Brian Tiemanns'
name u can spell the word "batman"?
& if u change the letters
complitley u can spell "sakahwa"
((:
Apr 17 - 11:14
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THERE IS A SP PREVIEW ON "ROCKETMAN!" I REPEAT: THERE IS A SP PREVIEW ON "ROCKETMAN!"
It's the one w/Timon & Pumbaa. All the animation clips are from TLK, but it's still cool! BTW, it is now a fact that SP comes out this Oct.--the preview said so!
Busa Simba!
Apr 17 - 07:16
student
Location: Greece
E-mail:
Apr 16 - 14:50
Hs Studant
Location: Indiana
E-mail: drama_man@hotmail.com
May The Circle Of Life Treat You All Well!!..
Apr 15 - 12:06
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E-mail:
The former Computer Hacker was arrested thanks to someone who wrote down the ID#'s of Anne and her accomplice when they tried to arrest them. They called the cops after the two left, gave a description and the two bumbling criminals were booked. They used a fellow poster's screen name to tap in to the government's computers to access accounts and that sort. So now there are no FBI's on this page thanks to somone for speaking up.
They are now going to prison for a long time.
Apr 14 - 19:38
Location: here
E-mail: don't have one :(
Hakuna matata!
Apr 14 - 10:32
Location: Ann Arbor
E-mail:
Apr 13 - 17:19
Queen of all lionesses
Location: a lion pride
E-mail: Bankster@msn.com.
And if Zira is suppose to die in the movie, then how? Who's going to kill her possibly? Nala? Adult Kiara? Or maybe Kovu will turn on his very own mommy....hmmm...
Oh well...I guess I have to wait and see!
HAKUNA MATATA!
Apr 13 - 16:36
student
Location: Greece
E-mail:
Apr 13 - 03:16
Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk
Bye,
Chris.
Apr 13 - 02:19
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It had little (none) info about SP. Of all the cast members it even didn't mention Zira, her two offsiders and last but not least; Kovu.
But maybe Simba will have two daughters, I don't know. Maybe they will have a fight over Kovu.
I think we will have to wait on that...
Bye
Apr 12 - 16:52
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Well, that's it for now...
Bye,
Dara
Apr 12 - 16:33
Location: Texas
E-mail: Aprokho383@aol.com
I got that from the Internet Movie Database.
It IS a reliable source, because I go there to get my info and it's real.
Kiara and Shani are the daughters.
Neve Campbell and someone else, I forgot.
Apr 12 - 14:57
student
Location: Greece
E-mail:
Apr 12 - 12:54
Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk
Thanks Vicky, I din't know Lacey Chabert had done singing vioceovers. That's a possibility, I'd sort of glossed over. Interestingly Kathleen Turner supposedly sings a song - a (?vicious?) lullabye indeed, so perhaps she is the singing Zira, then again she's not well known for her singing, and Jessica Rabbit had a different singing voice of course.
Bye,
Chris.
Apr 12 - 12:50
student
Location: Greece
E-mail:
Apr 12 - 07:23
Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk
Be careful, there might be two daughters, there may well be just one. There are two voice actors/actressess associated with many of the characters, the first is the most likely 'official' one:
Son of Scar (Kovu, Jason Marsden; Nunka, Andy Dick)
Scar's widow/mate (Zira, Suzanne Pleshette; Unknown, Kathleen Turner)
Simba's daughter (Kiara, Neve Cambell Asiha/Shani Lacey Chabert)
...and there are others. It may well be that this is the result of plot changes and the like, and that there have been two or more simba's daughters, but just not necessarily in the same film.Don't jump to conclusions, the IMDB is not a official source (anyone can post info to it for a start!), nor is most of the SP material on the internet. At least the News items from which I get most of my information are reasonably reliable.
Oh yes, Disney's own annuall report (a reliable source I think) has confirmed that James Earl Jones does indeed play a role in Simba's Pride, though it does not state what that role is.
Bye,
Chris.
Apr 10 - 01:22
Location:
E-mail: neema@lionking.org
Oh, neat! Yay! I like the idea of Simba and Nala having two cubs; yah know, like Scar and Mufasa. (Or Taka and Mufasa?) Ok, I don't have any SP info. =/ Darn it. Oh well. Keep the rumors flying! :)
Neema
Apr 9 - 23:10
Location:
E-mail: jennakd@hotmail.com
Apr 9 - 20:21
Location:
E-mail: Bankster@msn.com.
I'm Amira "lioness"'s sister, and she told me about this page, so I decided to check it out myself! I have read everything about Simba's Pride, and at first I thought, when reading the old rumors, Simba was gonna have one daughter. But then I read from someone else's post that he's actually gonna have two!!! WOW!!!!!!
I can't WAIT untill the movie comes out. I'd DIE just to see a preview of it!
JESSYKA
Apr 9 - 18:58
Cartoon Planet
Location: Looking for Brak
E-mail: uh,...uh......
<--Sorry for this interuption, ladies and lions. Uh,...hakuna matata!?!
Apr 9 - 17:31
Location: Isle of Wight, UK
E-mail: talami@globalnet.co.uk
Kimberly Scott, it appears, may be 11, but that doesn't mean 'We are One' is a kiddie song! All the reviews of her first album (released in January in the US apparently) suggest she can sing almost like Whitney Houston! This could be interesting... there's only one way to find out - watch the special. I can't so you folks will have to report it to me :-).
Oh yes, if you want to know more try :
http://www.kimberlyscott.net
Bye,
Chris.
Apr 9 - 13:53
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Apr 8 - 16:00
Location: Disney-Heaven!!
E-mail: disney_princess@mailtag.com
Does anyone know if "DreamWorks" is owned by Disney? I thought it was but I read an article saying it was owned by Jeffrey Katzenberg (we all know ~him~ right?). The article was in a Nov.7,1997 magazine of "Entertainment Weekly" and it was about Fox and a bunch of other companies trying to bring down Disney in animation {as if!}.
..."There's a huge audience out there," says Animato's Ventrella. "But what do they want? That's the billion dollar question. Beavis and Butt-head? Sexy Japanese anime? Lion King 2?"....
{IMHO...}
-->I HATE beavis and butt-head
-->I like anime UNTIL it gets kinky....
--> (all together) YES! YES, YES, YES!!! WE WANT "LION KING 2: SIMBA'S PRIDE!!!" =)
Well, I've got a LOT of catching up to do; so HAKUNA MATATA!!
Apr 8 - 10:27
Queen of all lionesses
Location: a lion pride
E-mail: Bankster@msn.com/
...Oops! I forgot I was new here. Sorry!
I have a question: since Sarafina is a grandmother now, shouldn't she die of an old age or something in the movie? It's pretty obvious she could, since she's supposed to be old...? Can anyone answer my question? Thankyou.
And could somebody send me a picture of Kiara, Kovu, and Zira? Thanx.
Apr 8 - 10:14
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It's getting more complicated every time!
Anybody who has more info on this please post your messages!! I think there will be a lot more surprises coming this way before Simba's Pride comes out...
Apr 8 - 10:08
student
Location: Greece
E-mail:
Apr 8 - 05:58
Location:
E-mail: eshine1@ix.netcom.com
Apr 8 - 00:23
Student
Location: San Bernardino County
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol.com
STOP HARASSING ME! I AM NOT, I REPEAT, AM NOT ANNE!
My joke went over the line. I almost got arrested for it. Now, if you guys don't quit harassing me I'll get your address servers on you to quit. If you've read all the postings by me you would know that I love Lion King and do ANYTHING to get something from it. Read all my past posts if you don't believe me. Just leave me alone! I'm 17. I joke alot but would never pose as a real FBI agent. I know it's illeagal. Ask the maintainer, ask everyone who knows me and they'll tell you!
By the way Nick-Glennie Smith is scoring TLK2.
Alicia :.(..
Apr 7 - 21:01
Broadway's R Us
Location: Indiana
E-mail: drama_man@hotmail.com
Apr 7 - 19:24
Cartoon Planet
Location:
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did anyone see the lion king broadway special on the rosie o donnell show? it had the producer and some of the songs form the show with the original people, no lions, no people, well whatever... anyway, it didn't have anything about simba's pride, but it was interesting anywho....
well see ya!
brak
Apr 7 - 16:51
Sales/Tech London Drugs #41
Location: Canada
E-mail: marmbo@dowco.com
I promote this site, and if its illegal?? Well heck, better come arrest me too! :)
Apr 7 - 13:53
unknown
Location: The Pridelands
E-mail:
Apr 7 - 12:38
Location: Sunny San Diego
E-mail: Raistlyn@pacbell.net
Can't wait to hear it.
Apr 7 - 01:00
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was'nt he afraid to drop him? (:
Apr 6 - 23:27
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Oh, btw (I gonna be a bit of a hypocrit here, but oh well), speaking from experience with pests, if you just ignore them they do eventually go away.
Hakuna Matata.
Apr 6 - 20:19
TLK Fan
Location: The Labyrinth
E-mail:
preview.
C'ya.
Apr 6 - 18:43
unknown
Location: The Pridelands
E-mail:
Apr 6 - 17:34
Location: Still home
E-mail: sean@schoollink.net
Just for the record, no one will take you seriously without some form of ID (badge #, office phone #, E-MAIL ADDRESS!!!) so please take a hike.
Boy she can stir it!!
Sean
Apr 6 - 16:10
TLK FAN!
Location:
E-mail:
Anne, can you pleas just go to hell and shut up! Why would Disney care about the rumor mill and TLK pics. We just do it for fun, because we LOVE TLK, and I think Disney should be flattered. As long as we don't try to make money with the TLKFanSites, why would they care?
Anne, you're as fake as you can be. Get a life!
Kris, TLK-FAN.
Apr 6 - 13:33
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It is a FEDERAL crime to impersonate a federal agent. The penalty for such a crime is
$100,000 and/or 10 years in jail. If you do not cease and desist such a crime, matters will be turned over to the FBI headquarters in Washington D.C.
Apr 6 - 12:15
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Apr 6 - 11:51
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FBI doesn't talk like you do, o.k.?
Everybody, stay where you are, do not remove your sites. Anne, go play with your toys, they are possibly as real as YOU are FBI...
I do not believe Disney would do such a childish, disgusting, sneaky little thing like this!!
Apr 6 - 10:45
Location:
E-mail: neema@lionking.org
Neema
Apr 6 - 09:48
F. B. I.
Location: L. A.
E-mail:
For those sceptics I am back. I just had someone arrested so back off. You think I'm fake? Well, I'm as real as ever. Disney told me to write down all the names of everyone who's posted info or fake pictures. We'll see who's laughing now.
Anne
Apr 5 - 22:54
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I just like to say that it sounds kind of funny how you cast Zazu, in your crossover, as Ismay (on the oopid-stay). Get it!
Anyway, it's been a few years since I heard them working on the sequel(which I look more forward to than anything else in TLK world right now). I once heard them say that they were going to release it back in Spring of 1997. It sounds like they kept delaying it for some reason.
I know they are still working on stuff, but I heard about the names Nunka and Kovu being selected as names for Scar's son in the new movie. Some fanfics call him Kisasian which sounds better than those other names.
I wonder about them having the same story format as the original movie. If anyone finds out what the big plot for the story is, than please don't tell me they plan to kill Simba in the movie.
And one more thing.....Could somebody please tell that person who wrote the TLK news article on updates for the sequel that Scar and Simba were not brothers, but uncle and nephew. If Nunka or whatever is going to woo Simba's daughter, then those people should know that they are from two different generations.
Well, that's all I have to say.
Toodles!
Apr 5 - 17:32
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Apr 5 - 13:30
Location:
E-mail: neema@lionking.org
Anyhoo -- again, so, we /know/ Simba's Pride /will/ come out and be released to video October
/Another/ situation I've been thinking over to spam all of you(=)) -- ever think that Disney will postpone Simba's Pride again like they've done for two or so years? I doubt it, but that's been rattling in my mind forever and I remembered to post it here.
Okay, enough with my spam and such; cheerios all!
Neema
P.S: Yes, I do think this Anna person is a fake--Disney would of gotten us in trouble a few years ago when all these sites began to come up about TLK. Ok, my two cents and enough of my rantings.
Apr 5 - 12:28
student
Location: Sweden
E-mail: the_panther80@yahoo.com
Thanks
Apr 5 - 05:38
Location:
E-mail: Biggie_Baine@Hotmail.com
Apr 4 - 23:33
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E-mail: Biggie_Baine@Hotmail.com
Apr 4 - 23:27
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Maybe the other lionesses made her life at Pride Rock very difficult by nagging her. Maybe therefore she didn't want to be the head of the hunting party. Maybe the lionesses drove her away... what can Scar do to stop them, he depends on those lionesses! They are responsible for the food (the one and only thing that will keep the hyena's satisfied!).
Well.... just my opinion. I don't know really.
Apr 4 - 12:17
unknown
Location: The Pridelands
E-mail:
Apr 4 - 10:35
Kid, insane person,E-mail address hunter
Location: Texas
E-mail: clinza@yahoo.com
I found places to E-mail or write to Nintendo
concerning TLK64. I like the idea, and I'm going to suggest it. I think if enough players mail of E-mail them, they'll catch the drift sooner or later.
This is the online writer, Kent something-or-other's E-Mail address: kent@nintendo.com
This is to where you're supposed to E-mail with general questions and comments: nintendo@nintedo.com
This is the corperate address:
Nintendo of America
P.O. Box 957
Redmond, WA 98073
Now, I'm not one to stop pestering anybody about this sort of stuff, but I'm only one person.
All you TLK lovers and N64 players out there, I have one thing to say:
Let's Flood Their Inboxes And Their P.O. Box!
I'm still comin' up with more hairbrained ideas,
Mauloff Queen
P.S.- I'm going to see if I can get my own web page:)
Apr 3 - 23:18
Monster Inc.
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I think Timon is sooooooo cute!!!
Please make more Timon stuff! Also, please show
"Once Upon a Timon" again on the ~TIMON~ and pumbaa show?
Thanx!
Gabriel*
P.S. Please have Timon do more music videos!
Apr 3 - 18:10
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I understand how you may not like Disney sequels, but you are incorrect when you say they are not computer-colored. Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas was colored by a computer, and while I'll admit that the story wasn't very good, the animation was pretty impressive. Also remember that the Christmas sequel had major story and time limitations, and that a Lion King sequel has many different and exciting possibilities. Should they make a sequel to The Lion King? I don't know, but they are, and there is obviously a market for such a film.
Apr 3 - 14:20
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Apr 3 - 13:56
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Apr 3 - 09:15
unknown
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Apr 2 - 17:44
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Apr 2 - 14:45
Location:
E-mail:
Rose: Sarabi
Jack: Mufasa
Cal: Scar
Ruth Dewit Bukater: Sarafina
Tom Andrews: Timon
Captain Smith: Rafiki
Ismay: Zazu
Lovejoy: Banzai
Molly Brown: Shenzi
Lizzy Calvert: Adult Nala
Fabrizio: Ed
Brock Lovett: Adult Simba
Mr. Bodine: Pumbaa
Hehe that's what my interpretation would be :>
Apr 2 - 12:38
student
Location: Greece
E-mail:
Apr 2 - 01:28
Location: Southern California
E-mail: It's down there
For those who don't know what MY F.B.I. stands for than heres a lesson F.B.I: It means Fooled By Instigator! Ha, ha! I wanted to warn all of you that I was once threatened to get sued by a "Disney lawyer" they told me two years ago that " Your website is illegal and Disney would like it removed immediatley." You betterbelieve I removed it. You see, if you read little copyright things than you would know that it says, "No part of this (whatever it is) may be reproduced in any way, electronically or otherwise." You see, I found out who Anne was. She was one of my old friends who HATES Lion King. I've instant messaged her some really bad stuff but my doubts are really out of hand. So, my next move is that if she posts another mess. like the one way down there, than someone better call the F.B.I, and not the instigators like me.
A.M.
P.S.> Anyone in South Africa got Lebo M's Deeper Meaning, if you do e-mail me.
Again, Lebo M. fans, check out Disney's Rock-A-Bye Baby for Lebo's music for children.
By the way, in a way, this is Lion King oreiented.
Apr 2 - 00:52
Location: Australia
E-mail: pbjenkin@deakin.edu.au
Apr 1 - 17:22
unknown
Location: Pridelands
E-mail:
Apr 1 - 12:34
Long time follower of Rumor Mill..
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Jeez, its a long enough wait till October..and I'm going crazy just to see a preview. *sigh*
Knowing disney, I bet they wont really start hyping Simba's pride untill after they are done hyping the new Pocahontis video.
Wish I had seen the TV ad. Oh well. Later fellow TLK worshipers...
Apr 1 - 05:50
unknown
Location: pridelands
E-mail:
Mar 31 - 18:19
Student and TLK enthusiast
Location: Los Banos, CA
E-mail:
I love the idea of The Lion King 64. That would be an awesome game.
Mar 31 - 16:56
Student
Location: Rialto
E-mail: LKQUEEN@aol
Maybe it was someone from Disney that got a little ticked off about what was going on like that one guy. Don't mess with Disney, they'll pounce when you least expect it.
Mar 29 - 22:27
Location:
E-mail: Coolcat33@aol.com
Mar 29 - 18:02
I'm a living, breathing person
Location: This beautiful world:)
E-mail: sorry, cant tell!!!!
Sam:P
Mar 29 - 14:47
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This rumor mill is NOT about Anne...
Lyn
Mar 29 - 09:41
Location: The Labyrinth
E-mail:
Mar 29 - 08:34
LION KING FAN
Location: Norway
E-mail: ....
Well, it's pretty clear to everyone that 'Anne'isn't a FBI agent. She's just some stupid person who wants to bug with TLK fans. She'll probally never write on the Rumor Mill again, so forget her....
We have more important things to think about, like TLK2: SP...
Busa Simba!
Mar 29 - 04:46
student
Location: Pittsburgh
E-mail: not important
I was really upset when I missed the preview from SP last week, but I thank all of you who summerized it. I am sure we will all be seeing the preview again with more detail as the new movies(i.e. The Little Mermaid and Flubber) become available. From all the rumors I have heard so far, the wait will be well worth it.
on a side note, Ann a.k.a FBI agent, I looked up your profile on aol and it says you are only 16/17 years old...Since when did the FBI start recruting teenagers to bust all the fans of the Disney corporation?
Mar 28 - 22:06
Location:
E-mail: Biggie_Baine@Hotmail.com
Mar 28 - 20:06
Location: la computadora
E-mail: Biggie_Baine@Hotmail.com
Mar 28 - 19:56
Kid, Lion King fan, and Anne skeptic
Location: Texas
E-mail:
Who thinks the Nintendo company should make a Lion King 64? I'm going to e-mail them and write to them until they do! I bet the profits from that game would take off like a rocket and not come down from its high orbit until everyone who owned a N64 system and has seen the Lion King has a copy. Only then will it come down from a high orbit to a low orbit, and the sales from it won't crash land until they run out of copies! I'm all for large amounts of mail to the company. Once I know there's enough intrest, I'll find the e-mail address and post it. Who's with me here?
-Mauloff Queen
P.S.-Oh, and Anne, girlfriend let me say somethin' here. Impersonating an FBI agent is illegal. Now that you know this, stop it.
P.P.S.- Has anyone played Star Fox 64? That is so cool!!! :-)
Mar 28 - 18:14
Location:
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Mauloff Queen : thanks for sending me those pics :-)
Mar 28 - 17:00
Location:
E-mail: Buick@execulink
Mar 28 - 16:56
I'm a kid, Lion King fan, and "ANNE SKEPTIC"
Location: Houston, at the moment. This summer I'll either be going to NewYork or Dallas!!!:)
E-mail:
Yea, right, Anne. I'm with the rest of us Lion King fans. If all of us boycot Disney, I can almost gaurentee that with the other boycots goin' on, Disney will be down in flames. THEN who's fault will it be.
And I'm not prone to promising or gauranteeing anything. Here's another thing I'll gaurantee, though:
No matter how much you want to be in it, you are not in the FBI. I don't think the Feds would get themselve tangled up in this group, 'cause it won't be the president that's going to end up having an asassination atempt. It won't be me that will carry it out, but I know that there are people out there who go overboard about these things! (i've talked to one of them. They're in jail now, but they got what they wanted.)
-Mauloff Queen
Lion King rules, and it's fans will always be defended. In other words, don't mess with my friends, or you'll be messin' with me!
Mar 28 - 13:31
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Don't you think Disney already knows that there are some Simba's Pride pictures on the net?
They can give a warning too you know.
Isn't it a pathetic thought? I mean the FBI searching for some Simba's Pride pics (nobody really knows if they ARE real!). Has the FBI nothing better to do? Searching for murderers, rapist and land betrayers seems more useful to me!
Oh, and Disney made it very diffucult for us by not saying anything or not showing us anyting.
Disney even couldn't say when SP whas coming to the Netherlands (Europe) after I send them a mail.
And Disney, isn't this a great advertising stunt?? Imagine all the curious people who will go and buy the tape!
I'm glad with a site like this!
Hakuna Matata!!!
Lyn
Mar 28 - 11:58
Location: Graceland
E-mail:
Thank you... thank you very muuuch... :)
(Elvis has left the Rumor Mill)
Mar 28 - 09:20
Dedicated TLK Fan/MU*er
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They've had time time to -notify- us about it, if they wanted us to take the pictures off, so stop trying to scare us, poser.
Anyhow, I have no news on TLK2:SP, and I wish I did. Well, at least we know that the movie does exsist and will be out in October. Woohoo. :)
Love, Luck and Lollipops,
Amber.
Mar 28 - 07:48
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